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daburg 08-20-2003 08:23 PM

diversity
 
I know Omega Psi Phi is a predominately. black faternity, but i was wondering if there were any white or rican memebers?

DoggyStyle82 08-20-2003 09:20 PM

There are plenty of Puerto Rican Bruhz, especially in the northeast. I know Hawaiian, Philipino, East Indian, Korean, and a gang of mixed-raced Omegas. To my knowledge, I know of one old school white Bruh (early 70's). He is in an Ebony magazine article from 2 years ago. He is a professor of African American History (yes, that is right) at Oklahoma State or some school in Okla. I saw a white Bruh at the Clave in N.O., in '98 and one in Indy in '00. But white Bruhs are rare. A reasonable guess is that there are less than 10. Not that many white folks step to Omega. I wonder why.........?

kiml122 08-21-2003 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DoggyStyle82
Not that many white folks step to Omega. I wonder why.........?
Come on now...U know why...he he he:p

daburg 10-17-2003 03:54 PM

Hello,

I was wondering if the Old school white bruh you were speaking of is Ben Keppel. A history teacher at oklahoma university?
thanks

DoggyStyle82 10-17-2003 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by daburg
Hello,

I was wondering if the Old school white bruh you were speaking of is Ben Keppel. A history teacher at oklahoma university?
thanks

I don't believe that is him. His first name is Richard (I think) and he is at Central Oklahoma

blackbird 10-19-2003 03:29 PM

diversity
 
There are many Puerto Rican Omegas in the northeast. However, there are very few white Omegas.

A popular Puerto Rican politician in New York was made through a special intake. His name is Jose' Rivera(Kappa Omicron, Bronx Chapter 1995).
http://www.assembly.state.ny.us/mem/?ad=078&sh=bio
www.kochapter.org

Yes, there is a professor at University of Central Oklahoma who was in an article in Ebony magazine 2 years ago, who is an Omega.
His name is Dr. Jere Roberson
http://www.libarts.ucok.edu/history/...son/index.html

DoggyStyle82 10-20-2003 07:35 PM

Re: diversity
 
Quote:

Originally posted by blackbird
There are many Puerto Rican Omegas in the northeast. However, there are very few white Omegas.

A popular Puerto Rican politician in New York was made an honorary. His name is Jose' Rivera(Kappa Omicron, Bronx Chapter 1995).
http://www.assembly.state.ny.us/mem/?ad=078&sh=bio
www.kochapter.org

Yes, there is a professor at University of Central Oklahoma who was in an article in Ebony magazine 2 years ago, who is an Omega.
His name is Dr. Jere Roberson
http://www.libarts.ucok.edu/history/...son/index.html

Thanks for that info, but Jose Rivera is not an honorary member to my knowledge. The Frat doesn't have many honorary members and hasn't made an honorary member in a long time.

blackbird 10-20-2003 08:01 PM

Yes, I just corrected myself...not "honorary" but "special intake".

blackbird 10-23-2003 12:51 PM

Re: Re: diversity
 
I think that there are more than 7 honorary members.

DoggyStyle82 12-01-2003 06:47 PM

I just found out that some white members have been initiated recently at two different HBCU's.

daburg 12-07-2003 10:18 PM

Do you know what university this was. Thanks

DoggyStyle82 12-08-2003 11:14 PM

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Originally posted by daburg
Do you know what university this was. Thanks
Nope. But may I ask, what is your interest?

the411 01-20-2004 05:00 PM

Just a Question...
 
This thread got me thinking...

Which do you (Omega men) think is more greatly esteemed among the bros:

1. A non-black member who successfully completes Omega's difficult and demanding pledge process?

OR

2. A non-black member with an obvious, undeniable committment to the empowerment of black men and women?

DoggyStyle82 01-20-2004 07:55 PM

Re: Just a Question...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by the411
This thread got me thinking...

Which do you (Omega men) think is more greatly esteemed among the bros:

1. A non-black member who successfully completes Omega's difficult and demanding pledge process?

OR

2. A non-black member with an obvious, undeniable committment to the empowerment of black men and women?

The bros?

Both, for those very same reasons. One caveat though. You don't need to be an Omega to express your committment to Black America, but you do need to express your committment to the Bruhs.

the411 01-20-2004 09:05 PM

Hmmm...
 
So you think a non-black member who perhaps didn't go through a rigorous pledge process--but is handlin' his business when it comes to service--would be just as respected as the non-black member who went thru hell and high water, but perhaps isn't active in the community (as so many greeks are after pledging), save for being the White/Latino who can step his a$$ off?

I'm just asking...

DoggyStyle82 01-21-2004 02:41 AM

Re: Hmmm...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by the411
So you think a non-black member who perhaps didn't go through a rigorous pledge process--but is handlin' his business when it comes to service--would be just as respected as the non-black member who went thru hell and high water, but perhaps isn't active in the community (as so many greeks are after pledging), save for being the White/Latino who can step his a$$ off?

I'm just asking...

You assume way too much. I could care less about stepping. A good Bruh is a good Bruh. That is all anyone has to show himself as. If you were "made", all the better. If you are all service, that is cool as well.

the411 01-21-2004 11:19 AM

My Dear Sweet Doggy, I'm only asking, not assuming-- just trying to get a feel for the general attitude on the issue. It has been my experience that more weight is put on the pledge process, as non-black members tend to face more challenges while pledging a black org.

As I speak from my own experiences and vantage point, I sought feedback from you (the bros) to get some greater understanding. Your responses are both appropriate and ideal, but I still wonder if your feelings are (honestly) shared by most Omegas, particularly younger members. For instance, what is generally the first question(s) that is asked (or thought to be asked) when you see a non-black member wearing your letters? In my greek experiences it's been something like: "Did he/she really pledge?" rather than "Is he/she passionate about and committed to service to our comminity?" Again, just questions...

Should I stop wondering and conclude your previous declarations to represent the thoughts of the majority? You know me... ;)

DoggyStyle82 01-21-2004 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the411
My Dear Sweet Doggy, I'm only asking, not assuming-- just trying to get a feel for the general attitude on the issue. It has been my experience that more weight is put on the pledge process, as non-black members tend to face more challenges while pledging a black org.

As I speak from my own experiences and vantage point, I sought feedback from you (the bros) to get some greater understanding. Your responses are both appropriate and ideal, but I still wonder if your feelings are (honestly) shared by most Omegas, particularly younger members. For instance, what is generally the first question(s) that is asked (or thought to be asked) when you see a non-black member wearing your letters? In my greek experiences it's been something like: "Did he/she really pledge?" rather than "Is he/she passionate about and committed to service to our comminity?" Again, just questions...

Should I stop wondering and conclude your previous declarations to represent the thoughts of the majority? You know me... ;)

When you are younger or fresh off the sands, all that you care about is the "process". Especially of a non-black member because skating is an affont in and of itself, it would be even worse if a non-"us" was admitted easily. As you get older in Greekdom and away from your insulated yard and roadtrips, you realize that Greekdom is larger than your "process". As your worldview expands through maturity and employment, how you saw things as a neo or prophyte are different 10 yrs in.

So how I see things as an older member are based on my position in life and distance from those of a neophyte world. Doesn't make my viewpoint right and theirs wrong. Its different based on fraternal lifestyle and life experience.

So to answer your question directly... 10 yrs in, its about service, fresh off the sands "how did you pledge?"

the411 01-22-2004 10:55 AM

That makes a lot of sense to me. You're absolutely right about the "fresh-off-the-sands" greeks! I may have actually been one of those myself back in the day. And as I have gotten older, I see things a whole lot different than I did before and immediately after pledging.

Thanks, Doggy.


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