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kddani 08-05-2003 10:22 PM

Bryant winning Teen Choice Award
 
Does anyone else find it kind of funny that Kobe Bryant is being awarded the Teen Choice Award for Male Athlete of the Year?

I know the voting and all that took place before the rape incident happened, but is this really the kind of role model teens should have?

I'm also kind of disgusted that in every single promo i've seen for the Awards show, it mentions him. "See Kobe Bryant accept the award for Male Athlete of the Year" blah blah.

Nothing like exploiting already nasty contraversy to drum of ratings for a TEEN awards cermony.

smiley21 08-05-2003 10:38 PM

but isnt kobe innocent until proven guilty?

kddani 08-05-2003 10:40 PM

Yeah, he is innocent until proven guilty, but I just find it pretty tasteless for a young people's network/show to be using it to promote their show :(

WhirlwindTNX 08-05-2003 10:48 PM

Re: Bryant winning Teen Choice Award
 
Quote:

Originally posted by kddani
Does anyone else find it kind of funny that Kobe Bryant is being awarded the Teen Choice Award for Male Athlete of the Year?

I know the voting and all that took place before the rape incident happened, but is this really the kind of role model teens should have?

I'm also kind of disgusted that in every single promo i've seen for the Awards show, it mentions him. "See Kobe Bryant accept the award for Male Athlete of the Year" blah blah.

Nothing like exploiting already nasty contraversy to drum of ratings for a TEEN awards cermony.

I agree that it wasn't cool of the Teen Choice Awards to promote him winning so more people would watch. But we have to remember that he is innocent until proven guilty. It's sad that everyone is ready to lock him up.

mmcat 08-05-2003 10:48 PM

how sad....
he's hit regardless of how it ends because he's already admitted he did something. the guilt or innocence on how it came down remains to be seen.

kddani 08-05-2003 10:50 PM

Also to add to what I said about yes, he is innocent until proven guilty:

My personal views on him are also strongly affected by the fact that he admitted to committing adultery and having sex with this woman. Of course, tons of celebs commit adultery, but most don't get into this kind of mess.

But anyway- that's a whole 'nother thread- whether he's innocent, etc.

I was just disgusted by the promotion of it :(

smiley21 08-05-2003 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kddani
Also to add to what I said about yes, he is innocent until proven guilty:

My personal views on him are also strongly affected by the fact that he admitted to committing adultery and having sex with this woman. Of course, tons of celebs commit adultery, but most don't get into this kind of mess.

But anyway- that's a whole 'nother thread- whether he's innocent, etc.

I was just disgusted by the promotion of it :(


i hear you. i am just annoyed with the whole thing. i hate when stuff like this happens and no one really knows what really happened. so the media plays it up like they were there when it happened.

kddani 08-05-2003 11:21 PM

I love the Daily Show.

Jon Stewart's opening monologue started discussing this very subject.

WhirlwindTNX 08-06-2003 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kddani
Also to add to what I said about yes, he is innocent until proven guilty:

My personal views on him are also strongly affected by the fact that he admitted to committing adultery and having sex with this woman. Of course, tons of celebs commit adultery, but most don't get into this kind of mess.

But anyway- that's a whole 'nother thread- whether he's innocent, etc.

I was just disgusted by the promotion of it :(

Ohhhhh so true. He shouldn't have done it. And if it comes out that there was no rape, I would say shame on the girl as well. This case is making everyone sick. :(

Missmichigan 08-06-2003 01:30 AM

Kobe's punk ass and all those other athletes or anyone who is on top with the Media need to stop exploiting women through their fame. And women...get educated, stop HOing around and giving us CLASSY women bad reputations. UGH:mad:

AOII_LB93 08-06-2003 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kddani
Also to add to what I said about yes, he is innocent until proven guilty:

My personal views on him are also strongly affected by the fact that he admitted to committing adultery and having sex with this woman. Of course, tons of celebs commit adultery, but most don't get into this kind of mess.

But anyway- that's a whole 'nother thread- whether he's innocent, etc.

I was just disgusted by the promotion of it :(

While I agree with the promotion thing, I think it needs to be said that it's not just celebrities that commit adultery. If that were the case, there would be a lot less affairs going on...

Missmichigan 08-06-2003 01:59 AM

Youre right,
People need to think before acting period. Celebrity. Or not.

wreckingcrew 08-06-2003 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by smiley21
but isnt kobe innocent until proven guilty?
i'm pretty sure that 5 stitches in a very private area, if indeed it's true, is all the proof the jury should need.

Kitso
KS 361

KSigkid 08-06-2003 06:32 AM

I don't know what his publicist/PR person/agent were doing letting him attend the show; not the move I would have made, all things considered, especially for a Teen's Choice show.

White_Chocolate 08-06-2003 10:05 AM

even if he is guilty, it takes one good scandal to make stardom and end up in the limelight forever.

look at lizz gruberman. . .the comedian who ran over people and kept going. . .she was convicted. . .and now, she's touring the country doing lectures. . .and folks, it ain't about defensive driving. . .

face it. . .this will be something that he can bounce back from.. .

especially if he walks, the first Lakers game will be the most valued game ever. . .

DZHBrown 08-06-2003 11:32 AM

Quote:

but isnt kobe innocent until proven guilty?
Yes, but he admitted he was guilty of adultery. He has no place being a role model for teenagers (or anyone) because of that. Sure, he's a GREAT ball player, but his morals are lacking. I was suprised he even showed up.

enlightenment06 08-06-2003 11:42 AM

Just because someone admits to adultery doesn't mean that all of a sudden they're a horrible person. Plenty of married men cheat, and while I don't condone such behavior, I think it's wrong to single out Kobe as the poster child of adultery. John F. Kennedy and Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. both committed adultery. Are we to say that they are no role model?

AND I'd rather roll with someone who admits to doing something wrong and tries to repent than roll with someone who just appears to be good.

LeslieAGD 08-06-2003 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by enlightenment06
Just because someone admits to adultery doesn't mean that all of a sudden they're a horrible person. Plenty of married men cheat, and while I don't condone such behavior, I think it's wrong to single out Kobe as the poster child of adultery.
Yes, but not all men who cheat are alleged rapists and are seen as a role model by some children and teens.

kddani, you are completely right...it was incredibly inappropriate!

steelepike 08-06-2003 02:47 PM

well did anyone see or hear about Mark Cuban's comments on how this may bring new interest to the NBA and bring financial gain for a little while because of curiousity. This incident is gonna change Kobe forever, if he's inncoent his mage is never going to be the same, if he's guilty his career will forever be changed.

White_Chocolate 08-06-2003 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LeslieAGD
Yes, but not all men who cheat are alleged rapists and are seen as a role model by some children and teens.

kddani, you are completely right...it was incredibly inappropriate!

You're right
Kennedy was only president of the USA and kids to this day still do book reports on him(even though he didn't do crap for us)
That's such a minimal impact compared to a basketball player

LeslieAGD 08-06-2003 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by White_Chocolate
You're right
Kennedy was only president of the USA and kids to this day still do book reports on him(even though he didn't do crap for us)
That's such a minimal impact compared to a basketball player

If you'll read my post again, I made no mention of Kennedy.
I was comparing Bryant to any "average" male adulterer.

White_Chocolate 08-06-2003 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LeslieAGD
If you'll read my post again, I made no mention of Kennedy.
I was comparing Bryant to any "average" male adulterer.

no but the quote before that you commented on mentioned Kennedy
And I was only using your comment to her quote. . .

Peaches-n-Cream 08-06-2003 04:40 PM

This whole situation makes me sick, especially Cuban's comments. Everyone is speculating about what happened and only two people know for sure.

DeltAlum 08-07-2003 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by White_Chocolate
Kennedy was only president of the USA and kids to this day still do book reports on him(even though he didn't do crap for us)
Well, he did break a religious barrier as the first Catholic President.

And, somewhat vividly remembering the Cuban Missle Crisis and the committment to landing an American on the moon during the space race and cold war, I might take issue with the statement that he didn't do crap.

It would have been interesting to see what might have been done had he finished his term and perhaps had a second.

mmcat 08-07-2003 07:17 AM

sigh...just incredibly bad timing.

White_Chocolate 08-07-2003 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltAlum
Well, he did break a religious barrier as the first Catholic President.

And, somewhat vividly remembering the Cuban Missle Crisis and the committment to landing an American on the moon during the space race and cold war, I might take issue with the statement that he didn't do crap.

It would have been interesting to see what might have been done had he finished his term and perhaps had a second.

do you know that they speculate the first moon walk was faked
they said that if there's no gravity on the moon
then, the american flag shown on the moon should not be flowing in the breeze

AZpinkkittie 08-07-2003 11:04 AM

Don't even get me started on the "we didn't land on the moon" controversy. There have been several things written on the internet explaining all the things disbeleivers claim "prove" we didn't land there (the whole flag thing is discussed to-I think it has some thing to do with the fact that space is a vacuum, or they put wires in the flag so it would stand out straight, I can't really remember). Yes Kobe Bryant did something morally wrong, something that thousands of people (men and women) do everyday. I am not saying it's ok, far from it, but I do think he's getting more persecuted for it because he's a sportstar. Yes he is a role model, and should be more aware of the affect of his actions, but parents should be role models, world leaders, teachers, and all of these people have been known to do things that were morally wrong as well. People are using this as a reason for not putting athletes on a pedestal, and I think they should find another reason. You can't say "Oh, well, athletes have groupies and cheat on their wives, so we shouldn't use them as rolemodels." Regular people do that to. The reasons for them not being role models should NOT be based on things that normal people do everyday


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