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ATO/terp 07-24-2003 12:12 PM

Is Maryland 'Southern'?
 
Aiight sorry about another Maryland thread but I was reading past threads saying that Maryland was def. not southern.
Just wanted to know what people thought about it.......

My point of view......

I believe that we are half and half it sounds crazy but we are. Where I live Southern Maryland it is the mirror image of the South with accents manners and all but when I go into DC and past DC things are different and thats when things turn to "Northern affiliations". What I love about UMD is that there is a mix of southern and northern people <-----you cant get this at most places......

so I wanna know what do yall think?
:)

aabby757 07-24-2003 12:15 PM

TECHNICALLY, the state of Maryland is south of the Mason Dixon line so I do consider it in "the South" as far as geographically.

HOWEVER, when I think of "the South" and Southern hospitality, I DO NOT think of Maryland as being a part of that.

And, being a born and raised Washingtonian, and a graduate of the UMD, I don't think I went to a southern school.

And, I think UMD is fantastic in everyway.

Though, I think the greek system is very competitive (or it was when I was there) so there is a bit of "the south" in that aspect I think.

AchtungBaby80 07-24-2003 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by aabby757
TECHNICALLY, the state of Maryland is south of the Mason Dixon line so I do consider it in "the South" as far as geographically.

HOWEVER, when I think of "the South" and Southern hospitality, I DO NOT think of Maryland as being a part of that.

I agree. :)

Eirene_DGP 07-24-2003 12:42 PM

LOL...Some South Carolinians consider Virginia northern......So to us, MD is out of the question on our southern meter.

aabby757 07-24-2003 12:58 PM

though I don't consider Florida a "southern" state either so I guess it has more to do with geography.

ATO/terp 07-24-2003 01:15 PM

LOL...Some South Carolinians consider Virginia northern......So to us, MD is out of the question on our southern meter.



jsut come to southern maryland...charles county st marys or calvert...its like the back roads of Miss. or Ga. ;) ....

honeychile 07-24-2003 01:22 PM

I'm going to agree with ATO/terp. There are parts of Southern Maryland which are much more "southern" than parts of Atlanta & Florida.

Being a true Southerner isn't just about wearing a hoop skirt!

Peaches-n-Cream 07-24-2003 01:29 PM

I think that Maryland is Southern.

Nhfulmer 07-24-2003 01:33 PM

Having grown up in Alabama, I consider Maryland southern but not part of the "deep south".

IowaHawkeye 07-24-2003 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by aabby757


Though, I think the greek system is very competitive (or it was when I was there) so there is a bit of "the south" in that aspect I think.

I agree with that! When my sister was going through recruitment last year she described her experiences to me and it seemed soo much more "southern" than anything i experienced in the midwest or anything i heard described in the northeast. But i definitely didn't get the deep south vibe there i get in alabama or mississippi!

ATO/terp 07-24-2003 02:02 PM

Having grown up in Alabama, I consider Maryland southern but not part of the "deep south".


thats def. the answer i wanted to see....yeh i dont get the whole deep south vibe...I dont think I want that though I like just being alittle southern but not to southern (not that southern is bad) but i like the mix of it.... :D

ATO/terp 07-24-2003 02:23 PM

Maryland (Annapolis) <----yeh i know u dont get the southern feeling there....

Im talking alittle below anne arundel and pg counties......and yep sweet tea is awesome.

Nhfulmer 07-24-2003 02:43 PM

You're right about the sweet tea!! Actually being Southern is a state of mind. I have known people born & bred above the Mason Dixon Line who are as Southern as they come -- it's all about attitude. Of course, it doesn't hurt if you learn the right way to say ya'll!

GMUBunny 07-24-2003 03:32 PM

I don't consider anything north of Richmond Southern. I grew up in Southeastern VA and it can be plenty country, trust me. Some parts of Maryland can pass as southern but for the most part I really don't see it that way. Just my $.02.

KillarneyRose 07-24-2003 04:00 PM

I agree with everyone who said Maryland is southern geographically but is lacking the southern hospitality.

bethany1982 07-24-2003 04:05 PM

I think KillarneyRose is right.



Quote:

Originally posted by WarEagle1918
I don't consider Maryland southern except for geographically. Florida and Texas are in the south but I don't really consider them "southern". When we went to Texas for spring break, we had the hardest time finding sweet tea and the barbecue places didn't even know what brunswick stew was.
LOL... brunswick stew. Is that with squirrel or chicken. I like it with chicken and beef together. Southern is an attitude. Usually a good one at that.

sueali 07-24-2003 04:07 PM

I'm from Maryland ( my parents are divorced and my mom moved to LV, my dad and my entire family still lives in Maryland). I consider it southern but it definately isn't Georgia southern. Yes my entire family drinks sweet tea, and my mom and I make it here in Las Vegas.

kateshort 07-24-2003 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sueali
I'm from Maryland ( my parents are divorced and my mom moved to LV, my dad and my entire family still lives in Maryland). I consider it southern but it definately isn't Georgia southern. Yes my entire family drinks sweet tea, and my mom and I make it here in Las Vegas.
Wow. I'm originally from PG County (Bowie Born & Bred, though I went to Central HS just past the Addison Road metro stop), and I certainly didn't think of our portion of Maryland as Southern. Heck, I didn't even hear about Sweet Tea until I was in grad school, reading one of the wedding newsgroups! :p Though I have said y'all since 5th grade (albeit combined with a huge dose of mid-80's Valley Girl).

I guess I'd more think of Maryland as mid-atlantic. I guess it's because of the mix of students and geography (appalachian, near-pennsylvania, Baltimore, DC burbs, eastern shore, etc) that it's hard to peg it. It's a weird mix of light southern geography plus a bunch of northern attitude.

Now, the UMD greek system is a whole other thing-- that Greek Row just screams southern, doesn't it? :)

ATO/terp 07-24-2003 05:20 PM

Wow. I'm originally from PG County (Bowie Born & Bred, though I went to Central HS just past the Addison Road metro stop), and I certainly didn't think of our portion of Maryland as Southern

ohh that part is def. not southern...not much hospitality there ( no offense)

i forgot to say yall must check out Easter Shore too ( even though some people like me think it should be another state :p) its apart of maryland and def. has southern ties.

sueali 07-24-2003 05:51 PM

I'm from Central Maryland, Howard County, but my entire family(3 sides - Mom, Dad, Step-mom) definately has southern mannerisms and traditions.

DZHBrown 07-24-2003 06:23 PM

Although I know it's technically below the Mason-Dixon line, I have never considered Maryland the South.

honeychile 07-24-2003 07:22 PM

So, was the question about Maryland being in the South, or the Deep South? There's a huge difference, and most of us realize it - especially during Rush Week.

I certainly wouldn't consider Maryland, Virginia, or even North Carolina part of the Deep South, yet there are places in each state which are completely immersed in Southern culture & hospitality. The Eastern Shores of Maryland, the Tidewater of Virginia, and other little pockets of each are sterling proof - just as Atlanta, Florida, and Richmond are definitely more Northern any more.

I know people in Maryland & Virginia who would just sit down and cry in their sweet tea if they heard y'all say they weren't Southerners - ladies who were born & raised in the UDC. Some Yankees consider Washington DC a Southern town historically - which it is on some levels.

In fact, I know quite a few people who were raised by Southern parents who are probably more Southern in culture than a lot of Southerners who try to deny their heritage.

Again, it's all a matter of whom you speak, and how they were raised.

MattUMASSD 07-24-2003 08:52 PM

I agree that southern maryland is way southern. You also have to look at where a lot of the people in dc metro area came from. For example my mom is from alabama, dad is from south carolina. Next door neighbor is from south carolina. So you have a lot of transplants in this area. I feel that I had very southern upbringing because my grandmother lived with us until she passed away, and she was as southern as they got.

smiley21 07-24-2003 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by aabby757
though I don't consider Florida a "southern" state either so I guess it has more to do with geography.

if you ever forget that florida is a southern state, go travel to the little towns ocala, palatka, starke, waldo, baldwin, hawthorne, citra, lawtey, and the westside of jacksonville among MANY others. you will be reminded real fast that you are in a true southern state.

Tom Earp 07-24-2003 11:58 PM

Mary Land went both ways!!!!!:)

The North and The South both invaded it a fought there as no one knew what to do with it!:D

It is like the yellow line on the highway!:p

shopgirl 07-25-2003 12:07 AM

Having lived in Florida for about a
year and a half now, what I have
discovered is the following...

The farther south you go in Florida,
the farther north you feel. The northern
part of Florida, especially the panhandle
of Florida is very southern like. However,
central and south Florida are not southern at all.

My Grandmother refers to this state as God's
waiting room! She says this because of all the
people who retire here. Especially New Yorkers!
My entire family is from New York so I get a kick
out of how many New Yorkers I have met since
I've been down here in Tampa. It's more like the
New New York, or New York with palm trees.:) LOL

ATO/terp 07-25-2003 10:19 AM

LOL ..woah Gods waitting room :D

shopgirl 07-25-2003 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ATO/terp
LOL ..woah Gods waitting room :D
I know, right?
I hope I didn't offend anyone by that.
When my Grandmother said that to
me, over the phone, I just about lost
it! LOL:D

Nhfulmer 07-25-2003 11:38 AM

I think it is hilarious! Having lived in the Orlando area a number of years ago, I know it is so true.

trisigmaAtl 07-25-2003 11:49 AM

we always talk about how Floridia is a place where Yankees fly south for the winter, i think God's waiting room is so much more funny!!!!

One of my best friends is form Palatka, he has definatly never run low on red neck references, and i know alot of them...the back yard of my high school was a cow pasture!!! (I'm not kiddding, there's nothing like the smell of fresh cow paddy in the morning to prepare you for a day of higher education!)

ATO/terp 07-25-2003 12:07 PM

lol hahaha yeh we had a school near us that had cows in the back when we would play them ( since i was anchor for the h.s. news) instead of saying well we are playing blank and blank high school....its like yeh were playing cow pie high tonight come on out....muwhahahaha:D

trisigmaAtl 07-25-2003 12:35 PM

you know, it's funny cuz it's true.
you should have seen this one hall in my HS it was known as red neck hall. there were belt buckles the size of dinner plates everywhere!!!! I swear that when they all stood by windows or overhead light you could be constantly blinded on the way to class! One of the guys actually got suspended for lassoing another student in the hallway causing him to trip (a homemade lasso at that)

sigh... it's like that one Ben fold's song with the line: "my redneck past keeps nipping at my heels"

enlightenment06 07-25-2003 04:25 PM

Maryland, and every other place in the "Urrea" and below is South. Not deep south, but still south nonetheless

ATO/terp 07-25-2003 04:46 PM

lol "muryland and urrea" thats how alot of people say it :D

MattUMASSD 07-25-2003 04:50 PM

hijack

whats with people in the dc metro area talking like that? Where does it come from? Muvva mother, area urrea

I grew up here and I dont remember kids in elemenatry school pronouncing their A's like that.

ATO/terp 07-25-2003 04:58 PM

<------- this guy right "hur" has no idea.:cool:

enlightenment06 07-25-2003 05:41 PM

Matt, don't be scurred, lol

pandaMD 07-25-2003 08:49 PM

hmm...I live in Montgomery County and don't hear there..."huur" or "uuurrrea"..but when I go closer to Baltimore I heard the "Maryland" accents come out a little bit more...:p

MattUMASSD 07-25-2003 09:31 PM

panda where in mont co and where do you go to school?

Tom Earp 07-25-2003 11:06 PM

Missouri History!!

Mo. is divided by a Chinese Wall down the center of the State! About Where U. Mo. is!

East was Northern, St. louis!

West Was KC Area So.

Ks, was a Free State allowed so that it could off set a Southern State!

Some of the Bloodiest Battles were Fought herre!

Burning of Lawerence KS. Home of the Chicken Hacks (JayHawks)
by William Quanttaall, of the Southern Army Reserve!! BS!
School teacher and Butcher!:mad:


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