campus overlap
 

OK, I know this is a weird question.

Has anyone done any kind of analysis to see if certain sororities tend to have chapters at the same campuses? For example, I'm guessing that AXD shares campuses with more chapters of Chi Omega than Sigma Delta Tau, but only because Chi O is larger - I haven't looked at the numbers.

I'm looking for something like, "If there is a KKG chapter on campus X, there is an X% probability that there is also a Tri-Delt chapter, but only a Y% probability there is an Alpha Xi Delta chapter."

Yeah, I'm way too lazy to do the research and build a database, so I was wondering if anyone else had this kind of data.

just from my observations, if there is an ASA chapter on campus, there more than likely will be a chapter of AST, Tri-Sigma, or both. it's the AES thang :D

I've noticed that Delta Phi Epsilon, Theta Phi Alpha, and Phi Sigma Sigma tend to be at the same campuses.

I agree with 33girl. Since AST isn't part of a "duo" or "triad", we got the "AES thang" going on!!

I would say that NPC would have the raw numbers (i.e. ABC, DEF, GH are on campus 1; ABC, GH, XYZ are on campus 2) but you would have to do the statistical formula probably. Dunno though, NPC may have actually done this in the past.

If you get any numbers from NPC let me know. I'm interested in looking at the data myself!
PsychTau

I'm also way to lazy to figure that out and even if I wasn't math is not my thing.

I had a similar question along those lines: Which sororities are in which tier, who has the most memebers. Basically stats nationally. I tried searching and I only come up with indvidual campuses.

Is there a web site with all of this on it, I tried www.npcwomen.com but couldn't find it there.

what is meant by the term "tiers"? i have heard it several times on GC

About overlaps...

...I've noticed that many schools that have or have had a chapter of Alpha Chi Omega tend to have a chapter of Kappa Alpha Theta, or vice-versa. I don't think it can be attributed to DePauw, though.

The only time I've heard "tier" regarding sororities is related to their "ranking," either nationally or locally. I hate tier talk--in my mind there is only one tier, and there are 26 sororities tied for first place. What can be the top house in one school can be the "worst" house in the school down the street.

Observation: If a school has Kappa, then it will likely have Pi Phi and/or Theta.

If a school has a D Phi E, it is more likely to have a Phi Sigma Sigma too. At least in my experience, but that's not always true :)

If you go to Ariesrising's site you can find a listing of chapters and numbers, but they aren't guaranteed to be accurate.

This same thing has occurred to me before, but I didn't really give it much thought. My school had no Phi Sigma Sigma, Theta Phi Alpha, ASA, AST, or D Phi E...however, we did have Kappa, Theta, and Pi Phi (as per KappaKittyCat's observation). I don't know where you'd get any statistics about this, but I'd like to see them just for the heck of it.

Thanks, it was very interesting, not necessarily accurate

I don't think we could really get accurate numbers - even if you called an IO to get a number of initiates, you don't know how many of those have deactivated. I think the most important statistic would be the percentage of active members, active meaning financial and involved. I don't care if you initiated 300,000 people if only 10,000 are active, but if you initiated 30,000 people and 10,000 are active, you're doing something right.

My school has all three! (Out of five sororities - the other two are Gamma Phi Beta and Alpha Phi)

Sarah

Alpha Phi and ADPi seem to be at the same campus on a lot of occasions.

I notice SAE and Sigma Chi tend to be at the same campuses, same with Delta Sig and Theta Chi.

Observation: If a school has Alpha Phi, there's a chance it has at least one of the other Syracuse Triad organizations.

I have noticed the Kappa / Pi Phi connection. And they always seem to be on the same level. They had both at North Texas. I always thought it was that monmouth connection. (no Theta or Tri-Delt at UNT).

Edited to add Kappa & Pi Phi are at all the bigger schools here in Texas together. Examples being UT-Austin, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, UNT, TCU, & SMU.

No i iniatated thru alumnae initiation but i will tell you where iw ent to school a lot of houses being mention on this thread ring true.

I went to U of Arkansas and KKG and Pi Phi are on campus as well as tri delt and ADPI i see a running trend of these 2 sets of groups repeating somewhere on another campus. Even here UC Riverside has KKG and Pi Phi. And also from another stand point Arkansas has Chi O( founding school) and ZTA... Cal Poly pomona has those two together as well.

laura

At Ole Miss we have Theta, Pi Phi, & Kappa. We also have AOII, Tri Delt, Kappa Delta, Delta Gamma, Phi Mu, & Chi Omega. When I was in college at Ole Miss we had ZTA and before that Alpha Delta Pi, and before that Alpha Zi Delta and Delta Zeta.

I doubt anybody's done this research, since it would take SO much work and there wouldn't be a whole lot of purpose to it other than satisfying our curiosities.

I've noticed that Kappa and Tri Delta tend to be together quite often, along with Pi Phi and Theta.

I've noticed a KD/DZ/ZTA connection (a school wouldn't have all three, but usually at least two of them), but maybe that's because those are three of the biggest sororities that my school doesn't have.

AOX... Thats pretty true my school we have Theta, DPhiE, Phi Sig, and AZD (but those 1st three were right on!)

So far, this is the only connection at my school- DZ/ZTA.

Interesting...

As far as Theta/Pi Phi/Kappa, we have all three

KD/DZ/ZTA: no KD, but still got the other two

Plus the entire Syracuse Triad (A-Phi, AGD, G-Phi) which rocks ;)

U of Louisville has Pi Phi, but not Theta or Kappa. AFAIK, neither one has ever chartered there, but I could be wrong about that.

They also have KD and DZ, but no ZTA. I believe we used to have either a ZTA (or maybe AZD??) chapter there, but it closed in the late 60s-early 70s.

the only sororities penn state AREN'T at penn state are:

Delta Phi Epsilon
Phi Sigma Sigma
Alpha Sigma Tau
Alpha Gamma Delta
Theta Phi Alpha
Alpha Epsilon Phi

I think that all of these sororities had chapters at penn state at one time or another. I could be wrong. i know for sure that alpha gamma delta was there, cuz it was there when i went through recruitment fall 2000. also, i'm pretty sure there was a theta phi alpha chapter at some point. there's an interest group for recolonization, but our panhellenic isn't open for expansion right now. with one chapter recently closing, and during fall 2002 formal recruitment only 7 sororities making quota before snap bidding and/or cob'ing we don't have the numbers for a new chapter to come to campus. :(

if not all of the Syracuse Triad! So many schools have all of them: Alpha Phi, AGD, and Gamma Phi

I also noticed that schools that had ZTA also had KD...part of the Longwood 4

PSUSigKap, I can confirm that there used to be an AEPhi chapter at Penn State.

Out of the previously-mentioned connections, the only one at my school is AXO and Theta. We have Theta but not Kappa or Pi Phi, and we have Alpha Phi but no ADPi.

I've noticed that GPhiB is often the only NPC sorority at a school...

At my school we have
Chi Omega
Kappa Alpha Theta
Kappa Delta
Kappa Kappa Gamma
Pi Beta Phi

At my sister's school they have
Alpha Chi Omega
Alpha Kappa Alpha
Delta Delta Delta
Delta Gamma
Delta Sigma Theta
Kappa Alpha Theta
Kappa Kappa Gamma
Pi Beta Phi

So, I guess that this supports some of the connections (especially Pi Phi/Kappa/Theta)...

I've noticed that Kappa Sig, Pike, SAE, or SigEp are usually on the same campuses. I think its the whole southern "elite" thing...Just like most southern schools that have ADPi chapters have Phi Mu chapters also

In the old days...we had
Delta Delta Delta
Kappa Alpha Theta
Pi Beta Phi
Kappa Delta
Delta Gamma
sadly they are all defunct and Theta denied a request by a local to recolonize last spring so I don't think anyone's coming back soon. (I have no idea why we started a new chapter rather than recolonizing :confused:)

http://www.beloit.edu/~libhome/Archi...oit/greek.html
kinda sad how many orgs died here. though sig chi has been here since 1882 w/out closing.

Wow accodring to all of the theories, my school has a strange mix of sororities! We have:

Alpha Xi Delta
Alpha Chi Omega
Alpha Omicon Pi
Delta Delta Delta
Phi Beta Phi
Kappa Delta
Chi Omega

This seems to go against all previous mention theories. We used to have Phi Sigma Sigma but they closed at the end of the 2001-2002 school year due to low numbers. I'm pretty sure we will be opening up to at least one more sorority in the next two years or so b/c all of our chapters are strong and at or near ceiling. So in order to grow we have to raise ceiling or get a new sorority and the raising ceiling will never happen. When we open for a new sorority I'll let everyone know!

I think that this idea of campus overlap also has a lot to do with where your sorority is strongest geographically.

Compare D Phi E and Phi Sigma Sigma

D Phi E has 18 NY chapters, 13 NJ chapters and 13 PA chapters.

Phi Sigma Sigma has 21 NY chapters, 9 NJ chapters and 16 PA chapters.

Obviously we all are stronger in this area, and of course, will have overlap.

Now, look at Theta, Kappa and Pi Phi:

Theta has 16 CA chapters and 7 TX chapters
Kappa has 13 CA chapters and 7 TX chapters
Pi Phi has 13 CA chapters and 7 TX chapters

Ahhh, correlation :)

So true! (and so hard for us sometimes)

My new school has: ACW, AXD, AF, PBF

I know they used to have a GFB chapter but only for a very short time, and I'm not sure who else used to be there but isn't. I'm trying to make my mom pull out one of her yearbooks to look.

A lot of it has to do with the kinds of campuses that the various groups colonize at. Some sororities prefer large universities, others like small colleges. Some go after Southern campuses--or northern, western, or Midwestern. The majority seem to prefer to go with campuses in the region that they're best in.

My school had the KD/ZTA link :)

The verdict is in... FINAL TALLY
 

After a while week in the office by my self, my boss is on vacation and I've run out of things to do.. Here's my numbers...

Campuses with Alpha Xi Delta Chapters also have....

37.3% Delta Zeta
34.5% Chi Omega
32.7% Zeta Tau Alpha
27.3% Alpha Chi Omega
26.4% Pi Beta Phi
24.5% Alpha Gamma Delta, Alpha Phi, Delta Gamma
23.6% Alpha Omicron Pi, Phi Mu
20.9% Alpha Delta Pi, Kappa Delta, Sigma Kappa
19.1% Delta Delta Delta, Gamma Phi Beta, Kappa Kappa Gamma
17.3% Kappa Alpha Theta
15.5% Sigma Sigma Sigma
12.7& Phi Sigma Sigma
10.9% Alpha Epsilon Phi
5.5% Alpha Sigma Tau
4.5% Delta Phi Epsilon, Theta Phi Alpha
3.6% Alpha Sigma Alpha
0.1% Sigma Delta Tau

Where do these numbers come from??

About four hours of searching the internet. I used my nationals site and visited every schools official listed there and marked down what sororities they had then divided by the total number of schools I was able to find information on (110).

This includes all active university chapters, thanks to those who hepled me finish my research!!

If your chapters not here it's because I used the list off Ariesrising's web site, which listed 26 NPC chapters and my page only had 26 lines and believe me doing this on two pages would have been nuts.

KD, DZ and ZTA are all at Bama and have been for a long, long time!

Re: The verdict is in...
 

great work! very interesting stats....

but just an fyi: i'm thinking you meant Alpha Epsilon PHI (not Pi) w/ your 11.4% ;)

:eek: Way to go rocketaxid ! I don't have that much patience.

Ditto to this - only if I get bored I might start doing it for Gamma Phi. :)