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Hey Sorors and friends I have a question what do yall think of Eminem and his music? I am not afraid to say that I hate his music why is he like the only wanna be rapper still hating on women, did yall know his wife tried to commit sucide (I don't know where I just heard this - maybe it was on this board - if so please forgive me)? Anyway, I think he needs help - if any guys are viewing please speak up about him and his music, I just really dislike it, but my man and my nephew have the CD and they play it all the time, but my man is still a sweetheart http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/tongue.gif I am glad he can set the two apart but can most men do that?

LadyAKA

Soror, I'm with you. I'm not a big fan of rap music anymore. Even the female rappers disgust me these days.

I am not in to rap. I have heard of him but only saw him once (I think on the BET awards) with DrDre, Snoop, LL and a few others rapping a medley of hits. I didn't pay too much attention to him...because I didn't really know who he was. I am only 30 but I fail to see the point to a lot of rap songs...I do listen if it has a nice beat or I like the rappers voice.

I've never heard of Eminem, but I'm not a big rap fan either. I used to be back when raps were fun (i.e. Curtis Blow, and the Kool Moe Dee & LL Cool J Wars). I can't stand the way some of the female rappers portray themselves, nor can I stand the genocide and mysogynism portrayed in many of the male rappers lyrics.

You ladies haven't heard of slim shady (yeah that's Eminem). I am not a big fan of his either, and as a matter of fact I think his music should be underground, I can't believe someone would produce such a record. He talks about killing his wife, it is horrendous. Now I do listen to DMX, why - well because I am a Hypocrite, just joking, but really I don't know I just like some of his work, I just watched Belly, featuring DMX and Nas, I thought it was okay, but I digress - Eminem/Slim Shady is sickening ...I may start a campaign against him and the first one to sign up should be his wife.....okay maybe we should move on this topic is not fun.

I agree that some of the music does have a nice beat, but when I listen to the lyrics I become I disengaged. It's a shame that music that reaches so many, especially so many youth, can't have a more positive message.

i saw an interview/documentary on him on, i think it was, VH-1. he really turned me off, his attitude was so negative i could see where his lyrics stem from. he evidently had a tough childhood so that is his excuse for having such a negative 'tude!

his music has nice catchy beats but his negative attitude is definitely what turned me off!

Just to play devil's advocate, but these people are just trying to make the BENJAMINS, BABY! We have to separate the two, the rapper from the person. These people are tapping into a market and doing whatever they have to to make the money.

Now, speaking as AKA2D'91, I don't buy the stuff anymore. The music does have good beats and 'hooks, but that's about it. Yeah, some of that stuff that EM says is hilarious if you can dissect what he says and can understand it, but normally they are going too fast and you can't. But as an older person, and watching these artists long after they are popular,(interviews) they basically will tell you that that act on stage is just that, AN ACT! So we have to separate the two. I am sure that for the average teenager, they cannot do that. They figure what you see and hear is what you get, but in fact, that is not always the case.

I happen to love Eminem's music. The stuff that he says on his music is a little bit hardcore. However, I believe that he loves to shock people. And also, he has a very creative imagination. He uses that imagination to make his music. It's like making a movie. Have the stuff that people make into movies, you can question it's moral value. Most of the time people don't. It's just that from the beginning rap has had it's critics. My opinion is that if you don't like something just turn it off. It's evident that people do cause of all the albums he's sold. And for all those concerned parents, I am soon to be a father also. No I don't think that his music is appropriate for little kids. I wouldn't let my kid listen to his music until he was age appropriate. Parents need to police what their kids are listening to. I went to see "Scary Movie" and yes it was very sexually crude. I understand parents who took their kids to see it got up and left. My thing is, kids shouldn't have been there anyway. I thought that some rated R meant that some of the materials in the movie might not be suitable for kids under 17? That means you run the risk if you bring your kids. Parents wake up! Stop letting tv and radio babysit your kids. It would be fine if the only thing out there was peace and love, but it's not. And even then I don't think that a tv or radio should take the place of the love and nurturing only a parent can provide. And that's my 11 cents.

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i like the song he did with dre and the real slim shady stand up song, other then that i havn't cared for his other songs. at least he's real, so you know what you're getting http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif
he is very popular. i agree rap used to be more fun, now i'm sick of snoop doggy dog whateva his name is and his gansta rap, i'm so disgusted with some of these female rappers, can you say NASTY. many of these folks never had anything including class and it shows all too well. but some are not as they portray themselves to be and are just using this image to sell records/make money which is sad that they won't be true to self.
but i do like a phat beat http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

I can understand separating the performer from the person, but I would never sell my body or soul for money because it's not worth it. Personally, I don't have respect for those that do, especially the females. I guess if I were a performer, I would never make it in the business.

Nupe4Life, you are absolutely correct that parents need to do a better job of parenting their children. I, too, have seen children in attendance at certain movies that were inappropriate for their age. Children are growing up way too fast these days.

I don't like a rap for the most part but I
love Dirty Kim (oooppps Lil' Kim)!

Lady AKA:

yes you heard correct his wife tried to slice her wrists...what a shame, they have a house about 1/2 hr. from where i live (metro detroit) and it was on the news last night here....

What upset many people here is that while they were here in concert this week they (the "up in smoke tour") had a very controversial video that was being shown before the concert. the city of detroit successfully stopped it from being viewed, but the second night the concert was in another city here and they were unsuccessful.....
Hopefully his wife (and eminem) will get the help she needs to deal with her/their situation
Meeks

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Soror, I would not sell my body nor my soul for money either. That's why I chose, like I am sure many of us chose the professions we have. We may not make as much money as the performs do or ever will, but at least we can wake up each morning being able to respect ourselves and having a PEACE OF MIND!

Soror LadyAKA,

I'm with you on DMX. I (and only I) can listen to his first CD over and over again. If you can get past the language, you might find his words interesting. Now, I say only I listen to it, because it is obviously not appropriate for my daughters' young ears.

I don't have any opinions on Slim Shady either way.

For Rap in general, it is tired. If I hear Cameo's Candy rapped over one more time, or any other song I grew up with, I'm going to scream.

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I am not a HUGE rap fan, but I do tend to go for catchy beats, and like someone else said, if you can get past the language of some songs, the message runs much deeper.

As for Eminem, I kinda like the kid...I especially like what he said about Will Smith in the 'please stand up' song. I won't repeat it here, but some of you know what I am talking about...I understand that Will Smith is "supposedly" this big-time role model, but you can't see him say ONE speech without him saying, "I don't curse in my songs, and I'm still rich" I can't stand him...he doesn't curse, but his raps are just trash anyway...he brags entirely to much and he's corny. Anyway, I don't know how I went off and ranted about Will Smith, but ya'll get my point.

Rappers like DMX and even the late-great Biggie, I can appreciate because of their lyrical skills. Some of the things that they say just blows your mind...I think of music as poetry, and the best rapper, to me, is the one who can master the art of storytelling. Sometimes a lot of these guys can only convey their experiences in a certain way, b/c that's what they know, but that doesn't mean that their work has no merit at all...it's just packaged a different way...

Thats my 2 cents....(more like 20 dollars, so I will shut up now...)

P.S.

Although I DO like some rap music that might not be squeaky-clean...I do agree with the point that children should not be exposed to such things. The world is harsh enough without having to expose a child to such things so early. But as for adults, that's where the maturity level comes in, to look past some things and appreciate it solely for entertainment puposes...
(dang, I sound like one of those psychic advisors!)

I like eminem. I haven't heard his whole CD, but the songs that get play on the radio, I love. He's not quite gangsta. I think he used to be underground (not sure). He is a different type of rapper. And like he said, "...most of these critics can't even stomach me, let alone stand me..."

On another subject.....
Why does everyone say "nasty" when they talk about female rappers. I admit I like Lil' Kim and Trina amongst others. And their lyrics may be very (sexually) explicit, but are they really that different (more offensive) from what male rappers are saying. You never hear anyone saying that about male rappers whose lyrics are just as explicit. However, like someone said before "It's all about the BENJIs."
You will hardly ever catch the "nasty" versions of any of these songs played on the radio. They clean them up pretty nicely. Most people don't know anything but the radio versions of these songs anyway.

Okay you guys I have a lot to say on this topic about $19.08.

Okay my opinion on Eminem is on two different levels. His skill as an artist and his comments and status as a WHITE rapper.

Okay as an artist, he is talented. I like him I have his whole new CD and it is my first selection in my cd disc changer.

HE is talented as the nupe said his lyrics are off the wall and make some great points.
He is a great artist, he took the Vanilla Ice thing to a whole 'nother level.

Okay what I don't like. I had a pretty open mind about him at first. THen he said something stupid in an interview. That has made me vow never to buy his CD's and I haven't a friend loaned me his new one. Okay I don't remember the interview verbatim, but I will try to give you a gist of it.

He said he was tired of being labeled a WHITE rap artist. THat WHites have it hard too yada yada yada. HE grew up in a bad neighborhood etc with all Blacks...and??? First of all I look at rap music as an expression of the oppressing situation many black men or poor Blacks are in. I think it speaks to the lifestyle of what many of our fellow brothers and sisters live like in the ghetto. (Remeber I am from COmpton...I have mentioned that quite a few times on the message board. I hope I don't sound like a broken record. I am proud of my city. We havc this notorious reputation but I want people to know that though some of the rep is deserved. There are quality upstanding citizens in the city)

So if you think rap is an expression of "the lifestyle of many poor Blacks in tough situations" or you could say even a symptom of that. Then I think his comments were totally out of line. Rap was created by BLACKS as is all popular music in America. So when you enter our turf BOW DOWN.

He also has a lyric in his song that makes me mad that says he doesn't make "WHITE or Black music" I am sorry rap is BLACK music, be it positive or negative. After he made those comments I said I would never help his rap sales.

Now I would like to pose a new question on this topic that follows along the same line. Are people as pissed as me that people ar bowing down to him like he is the greatest rap star ever? MTV, gave him a whole day of EMTV. WHy are his albums selling off the shelves 3 million in 3 months??? It is not because he is the tighest rapper out there.....even though he is tight.

His albums ar selling off the shelves because he has the right image....he is WHITE.
And so now all those Whites who are into rap music, have a poster boy. And boy do Whites love, Whites who sound Black...be it N'Sync...Brittany Spears, no matter if they are poor imitations. Can anyone say Elvis?

What are people's opinion on that issue?

And let's not forget, he would not have burst onto the scene so tight and seen as even half legit. If he had not rode in on the coat tails of Dr. Dre, who helped invent gangsta rap and the King of tight beats....and of course we know where he's from.

p.s. I am not surprised that his wife tried to commit suicide. Have you heard his lyrics about her?

p.p.s. Onesavvydiva you are definitely savy because I am totally feeling you on that Will Smith comment. HE gets on my nerves too. And I feel kind of bad because his wife is a soror.

Onesavvydiva said:

As for Eminem, I kinda like the kid...I especially like what he said about Will Smith in the 'please stand up' song. I won't repeat it here, but some of you know what I am talking about...I understand that Will Smith is "supposedly" this big-time role model, but you can't see him say ONE speech without him saying, "I don't curse in my songs, and I'm still rich" I can't stand him...he doesn't curse, but his raps are just trash anyway...he brags entirely to much and he's corny. Anyway, I don't know how I went off and ranted about Will Smith, but ya'll get my point.

p.p.s. AKAtude, can you put this issue onto the regular Greeklife chat board. I would love to hear some of those "people's" comments on this White rapper issue.

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Hey, Hey, I loved Will Smith! I will admit, some of his stuff was corny, but as kid/ teenager when he came out with "Parents Just Don't Understand" I was on that page. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif I know I didn't really listen to his lyrics for Men In Black or Gettin' Jiggy With It, but I liked the beats and I was comfortable that my kids could rock to it as well. And as for his movies -- yep, I'm a fan. He's one of those that grew up nicely! Soror Jada hit the jackpot.

As for Eminem, I haveheard of Slim Shady... was he the guy that came out with a rap that went ... "My name is, my name is, my name is..." ? Why am I having Vanilla Ice flashbacks?

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Well... I don' t care about eminem's music, and I don't care for Dr. Dre, and Snoop Dog' stuff either. I understand that as a artists the way they portray themselves, with the naked women on the poles... is not necessarily the way they live and are, but I am tired of this lame excuse, and I am never ever... ever... going to buy any CD that disrespects women, even if I like the beat, or the flow or whatever... ... I have had it. I am a black woman, I am not a hoe, or a triflin' bitch or... whatever so basically if they want my money, they will have to go check themselves first. As for Will Smith I am sorry but he is corny, and not that good of a rapper anyway. Sure his music has a catchy beat, he got his samples from disco's classics so you know he cannot go wrong. He is right though when he says that there is no need to curse to make it in the industry but that does not mean he is good.
As for me MOS DEF, TALIB KWELI, COMMON (have you seen his video with erikah badu?) are good rappers. Have a blessed day

Yeah Soror. They do love their own. They SUPPORT their own, regardless if they sound white, black, pink or green! Then "we" support them as well. That's why their music is selling off the shelves. Britney, even though her singing is not too hot, 'NSYNC, BBB, Christina (who can SANG) ETC. have the moves, which are basically choreographed by a brother or sister. Then their "music" is produced/written basically by black producers. The record companies have made a fortune off of this. They placed the "right" faces in front of "us". Therefore they will continue to sell...

I have another issue. Why are the Latina/os getting all these prime time award shows on like ABC and CBS, black folks barely have the Soul Train Awards? They are getting a Latina Grammy award show. You all know how hard it is for OUR people to get recognized by these people. Why can't there be a R&B Grammy Award show on CBS? Just because Ricky Martin comes out "Living the Crazy Life" these people can get their own, but we can't...after everything this community has contributed to music since its inception!

Soror TickledPink, you are not alone because I like Will Smith as well.

AKA2D,
I'm glad you brought up the topic of award shows. Why are "our" award shows never shown on one of the big three networks? And when they are shown on one of the other networks, they are shown months after the event has taken place. I've already read in a magazine or newspaper article who has won the awards! Also, the time slots they are scheduled to air are always late at night.

Back to Mr. Slim Shady for one moment -
For those that stated they liked his music have you gotten to the track on his CD where he repeats 'die B**** die' numerous times (he is referencing his wife)? That is on the second album, the first one he and he family are at the beach and he kills his wife and buries her in the sand or throws her body in the ocean I forget which. I guess that is why she wants to off herself so he wont get the pleasure. As for those who like his music, all I can say is to each his/her own!
And BTW, I like White Smith, I mean Will Smith, yeah some call him a sell out but I still like his music (beats and some lyrics included).

LadyAKA

ok, not to be causing drama but when we say that we want reprsentation for minorities do we mean just black people or all non white people? i am happy happy when any minority benfits. i am happy that they(latinos) are getting their own show. my cousin and i talked aboout this recently. her opinion was that we should only concerned with what benefits blacks and i totally disagree. while i agree that we should continue to uplift black people, i think that it is time for the other groups to benefit also. what do you all think?

Soror DG:
What you are saying is true in regards to "us". Yes, I am familiar with various genres of music and in the latin/spanish communities, I am familiar with the TV shows, etc. But still, the "Grammy" award show they have is an equivalent to our grammy. Just like in England, they have an award that is equivalent to our grammy and in Canada, they have the Juno award, which is equivalent as well, but this new award show is brought about by way of the same people/org (Name has left my memory, I think NAARIRS) that brings us the Grammy's every February. Still, African Americans started it ALL! That's why it took "them" soooo long to give Little Richard is just Due. Because, he spoke the truth. And the white folks don't like to hear that the blacks started the music industry with their talents, singing, writing, and dancing.

Herstory:
It's the year 2000, and many blacks have not been uplifted! Blacks have been here for yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaarrrrrrssssss, just as many blacks have entertained for yyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeaaaaaarrrrrrrrssssssss and many of us are still oppressed and have not been paid homage. That's a shame, so why "leave" blacks and decide that the latino community is the group of choice for the moment?

Yeah, it's about dollars, but our money spends just like everyone elses does.

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Soror AKA 2D '91:

That's the problem: our money may spend like everyone else's does, but until we make calculated decisions as to who gets our money, we will forever be crying the blues about what gets done to us. When are we going to recognize and utilize ('cuse the Jesse Jackson alliteration) the power we have, upwards of $500 billion in this country alone?

As for an "us" and "them" mentality regarding blacks and Latinos, I think there's more to it than that. As I'm sure you know, many Latin cultures, especially Carribean ones, share African roots with us, and their members are the sons and daughters of slaves, just as we are. Whether or not that heritage is recognized by Latinos or African Americans doesn't change the facts.

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Yeah Soror, I am well aware of ALL of that, but still...

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Ok, my few cents on Eminem/Slim Shady....Speaking of his wife, I read somewhere that she is/was a porn star. Maybe that is why she wants to kill herself...Anyway, I have not heard his cd. The only songs of his that I can judge him by are those played on the radio. I find thsoe lyrics quite humorous. I agree that he likes to shock people. I find it refreshing that he says what he really feels about things rather that watering life down. He did have a bad childhood and making fun of it through music is theraputic for him. We are just spectators in the Eminem therapy session. (Sorry if I sound like a psychologist, that being my major, made it a habit)

Eminem(or how ever you spell it) is wack! I am no longer a rap fan. I mean goodness all that mess is starting to sound the same. All you hear is B****, f***, A**, etc etc just to different beats!As far as rapping goes some of them do have potential but its just the lyrics are too much. Gangsta rap is so redundant. Its not that these young men and women are rapping about their experiences, alot of them are glorifying it as if it was a cool way to come up. I mean jesus.
What is the point of it all. Now they are killing each other left and right that just adds fuel to the fire. Will Smith is a good rapper. i know some say he is corny, but what makes him corny? Is it because he does not refer to jada as his B****?! Thats a true rapper. When you can sell records and make money without all the cursing, the refernces to drugs and dealing, the references to sex and disrespecting women, and the references to killing someone, then you are a true rapper. I mean take some of these wack rappers like Cash Money or SLIM SHADY and tell them to cut a album without all that bs, and actually rap about something, see how good that mess sounds. They probably would not know how. I mean some of them are ok but some of them are truly terrible. I mean look at DMX he wins an award for that Rated xxxx explcit album then he has the nerve to thank GOD as if GOD backed him on that. Gangster Rap is among the many poisons that are out there readily accessible to our youth.

Soror AKA 2D '91:

I think there are a couple of reasons why Latin entertainment awards shows have gained slots on major U.S. networks:

1.) Latin music has become palatable to middle white America, and network TV is trying to capitalize off of this while it's still "hot" in the minds of "mainstream" America;

2.) Latin music is HUGE (and I mean HUGE) in many parts of the world, and these shows are an outgrowth of that form of entertainment being more out in the open here. It's always been here, though (and I LOVE salsa, mergenue, son, cumbia, etc.-don't hate on Latin music; most of it has African roots anyway!). If you ever get a chance to read up on any of the major Spanish-speaking networks, you'll get a sense of how fast-growing the Latin music demographic is. Middle America acceptance is just icing on the cake. There have been Latin Grammys for a long time, just like there is a Spanish-language MTV, HBO, etc.;

3.) "Our" awards shows don't bring in the advertising dollars, so why would a network bother to put them on during a prime slot? And why don't our shows bring in the advertising dollars? Cuz advertisers know we'll buy their products and services anyway, whether they market specifically to us or not, since they know welove giving our money multinational corporations. Besides, they also know that while we talk a good game and get all huffy amongst ourselves, we rarely stand up and take action to get what we want. And why are we waiting for them to "give us" a prime-time show? I think the commercialization of R&B, rap, and other "black" music is precisely why most of it is @#$^.

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DG Thank you for both of your responses regarding the Latino issue. As a Black/Latina who is learning about her Latin culture I am becoming more aware of how disregarded the culture has been for years. You couldn't even get a Latin Awards Show. The most many of us knew about Latin culture was the various stereotypes, unless you lived in cities like NY. At least there was the Image Awards that SHowcased African American talent. Reiterating, right now Latin music is hot and it generates money. Secondly, with regards to Eminem, as much as I find his lyrics a bit disturbing I am entertained by them as well as his beats. But he too will wear out his welcome because the Angry MC routine eventually gets played out.

Hello ladies of Alpha Kappa Alpha, I was told about this forum and had to come post my 22 cents.
( you should really trying making this public, I'm sure you would get a great response. But then again, it might turn into another "race war" topic)

But anyhow, first off, I love me some Will Smith and Jada too( I know yall are proud of your soror http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif)I really am not completely into him like back in the day, but I have to give him propr for eternity for the song he did about his son, it was bluetiful.

Back to slim shady/emeinem.
Although,I do agree that his secone cd is out there, he said that it would be and warned people that if you didn' want to hear it, don't buy it and don't listen to it (or go to your local walmart and get the edited version..lol)

But I must say, I like the second CD (especially the song anout Stan) and I like the beat s and I feel like he is just getting his own therapy out (and were paying the bill, I guess....lol)

DG, your point is well taken. I believe that is one of the reason why the NAACP and the Latino community joined forces last year in an attempt to get the networks to acknowledge both cultures more on television. I'm beginning to enjoy their music because I honestly have never truly been exposed to it that much before, especially in this part of the south.

aka2d91,

when i used the word uplifted i meant that we have come a long way, i am not suggesting that we have arrived. but i do see some improvement, don't you? i don't think that them (the latinos)having their own show means that they are the flavor of the year. or that black people are not important. i take it as they are now saying "hey we want representation also" is that wrong for me as a black person acknowledge other ethnic groups? i hope not !!

Hello, well Slim Shady is not my favorite rapper in the whole world, but I think he's tight. Truly, his music isn't made for children ears, but can be made for mature minds. Too me, his rap very unique and intelligent in a odd kind of way. Basically, he's just keeping real and he's very blunt and society can't handle that kind of tackless attitude. His rap music is full of imagination, paradoxes, foreshawows, ironies etc. Rap is different now days that's why I only stick too NAS, Outkast, Redman and Method Man, Hot Boys- even though I think Juvenile is ignornant, the beat is cool! These female rappers are comming up though. ut, Enimem is cool- just probably had a ruff life so far.

Hello all,
Well I want to expand on what a SF said earlier. Okay, it's not that I am saying that just because a rapper is cursing then it's okay if they have a good story behind it. There are some songs out there that are just done in very poor taste. The point I was making on the Will Smith issue is that just because he doesn't curse, that does not, in my opinion, make him the epitome of a good rapper. I think his rapping skille leave a LOT to be desired. When I think of talented rappers who don't usually use profanity, I think of Common, Goodie Mob, Outkast, (like the SF said earlier), I think these guys are EXTREMELY talented...now you compare one of Common's songs to Will Smith, and every time Will Smith comes out with some bubble-gum song about how much money he has, and how he doesn't have to curse to sell records, that's the only thing he prides himself on b/c his rhymes are weak!!! The ONLY song I ever liked of Will Smith's was "Summertime", and otherwise, I think of him as a "one hit wonder"!

Go out and Common's new CD...it is really good!!!

Onesavvydiva,

Is the new Common CD out yet? I tried to order it last night from Amazon.com (yes, I'm too lazy to drive to the music store) and Amazon said it had not been released yet.

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onesavvydiva I must admit I loved "Summertime" by Will - I am going to leave the rest of this conversation alone.
I started the topic by saying I DON'T like Eminem or his music and that's how I am ending it - peace.

Onesavvydiva:

Common's CD has BEEN out! I'm surprized Amazon doesn't have it. My husband and I have been rockin' it for a couple of months now, and I've noticed he has some videos that have been getting some airplay (for a change). I'm curious about your comparison of Will Smith and Common, though. Common does most definitely (and speaking of him-Mos Def-does anyone have his CD? I want to get it, but the music budget is on the back burner right now) CURSES! I haven't purchased any Will Smith stuff since my teen years, and then it was "Girls of the World Ain't Nothing But Trouble" (remember that, children of the 70s and 80s?). But, I do like his music, even though I think it's fluff. It's like enjoying a movie or book that I don't think it necessarily holds it down on the intellectual level, but is still enjoyable.



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