Rush at PAC 10 Schools
 

I've been reading about rush down south, but I wanted to find out about rush in PAC 10 schools. I know my school's rush is pretty competitive, but what about the other schools?

I go to a WSU, and we have one of the bigger Greek Systems. I know that for guys, summer Rush is extremely competitive. They get most of their fall pledge classes from the summer signs.

For sororities, in the past couple of years, numbers have been down, but I hear this year we are going to have more women going through. I don't think that it's anywhere near as competitive as some of the Southern schools, fo one, we have been doing no frills rush for a couple years now. But the Chapters are still pretty competetive with each other. A couple of years back, you could easily see a spilt between the larger, more popular houses, and the smaller houses that had number 1/3 of others. In the last year or so, the number have stretched, from around 30 to 99 per Chapter. And between 14 houses, that's a big difference. It seems like the competition is pretty fierce around the board now, rather than one or two chapters duking it out for members and the other chapters taking what is left.

Sigkap, I figured you'd show up soon. She's going to WSU (if you haven't read her other thread).

I know the UW, USC and University of ID are pretty competitive, but I don't know much about the other PAC-10 schools. I think UofA is, but I'm not sure. But, overall it isn't even close to the southern schools and we're a lot more laid back.

yep sigkap, i go to wsu, and i know a few girls from sigma kappa from working at cougar connectors (one was a contestant in miss pullman, ellen). i just got on coug guys and gals this past year so i've heard a lot about the top houses (kappas, pi phi's and dg's) from the girls. i am excited, though i've heard from a few people that lemon water gets pretty boring :)

I would imagine at the bigger PAC-10 schools (UCLA, USC, UW, so on) that rush is big, especially sorority rush. At Stanford, we probably have the smallest greek system of any PAC-10 school (KKG, KAT, Pi Phi, Tri Delt, and AChiO I think) and that's it. We used to have DG and Alpha Phi but the administration is SO anti-Greek, that once a house leaves campus for any reason, it is pretty much impossible for them to get re-established. As for housing...FORGET IT!!! Stanford has a limit on greek housing (KA, KSig, Sigma Chi, SAE, Theta Delt, Phi Psi, Sigma Nu for the first time this fall, Thetas, and Tri Delts). There is also non housed Sig Ep, Delta Tau Delta, Dekes, and some other smaller Asian-American and predominately Jewish fraternities...Not a big greek school by any means...:(

SmartBlonde, I think you're a little confused. The University of Idaho (which I am assuming the U of ID is) isn't a Pac-10 school. Just for all of you who don't know the Pac-10 consists of U of Washington, Washington State, U of Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, Cal Berkely, U of Southern Cal, UCLA, Arizona State, and (save the best for last ;) ) U of Arizona. UA is fairly competetive. We have 12 NPC chapters with house total being at 130. We have about 800 women start out every year and though we are working towards no frills we still have a lot of them!

LOL! U of I a Pac-10 school.. haha.. sorry, I gave myself a good laugh. If only you'd seen us play them in Football..

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Yep, that would be my mistake.

I was thinking about two things (the schools in our Gamma Phi province and the schools in the PAC-10) at the same time. Aren't you glad I didn't mention UBC???? lol

Growing up a Husky fan, I know darn well what schools are in the PAC-10 (that's directed at myself)........

Re: Rush at PAC 10 Schools
 

I go to school at USC. If that happens to be your school, you're more than welcome to PM me and I can answer any specific questions you may have.

I also went to school at sc for the past year and a half/two years, so you can pm me if you have questions :)

Yet another USC gal among us. USC rush is extremely competitive. UCLA is not so much so, but then, they also have more houses. At USC be prepared for a Southern style rush, just dress more trendy.

USC does have a southern style rush but more trendy. UCLA's rush is actually more competitive than USC's in many respects. USC consistently has a higher pledging percentage (read: UCLA has a higher number of women who don't receive bids) but USC has a fewer number of chapters and larger NM classes.

From what friends have told me and what I remember about rush, at U of A, it's really competitive, as someone already mentioned.

I graduated from ASU and it is also extremely competitive. I believe roughly 600-800 girls go through rush. Only like 2-3 chapters actually reach quota. We have reached quota for the last 2-3 years I believe. I think Chi-O and Gamma Phi are the other two to reach quota.

Brianna
Alpha Delta Pi

ASUADPi, I know you graduated from ASU, however, according to the Panhellenic website for ASU your quota information is a little off.

6 out of 10 sororities reached quota (48) during 2001 formal recruitment (though I thought 48 was quota for 2002, so the year might be off on the website). AXO, APhi, ADPi, XO, DG, PiPhi. Theta pledged 47. Gamma Phi pledged 44, Kappa 38, the rest can be found on the ASU Panhellenic website. Though these numbers could include COB.

* hijack* == Sigh == Why does "competetivie" almost always seem to
translate into which schools have rush that is more a beauty pagent than selecting women who will support you and the ideals fo the organization ????? I mean... I like to dress nice and everything and I know it's important to put your best face foward... and have been accused of being fairly "high maintainance" but it just saddens me that there are some schools that choose sisters based on whether they were wearing "the CUTEST pair of seven jeans" or not... I mean I know several girls at UCLA, USC, and U of A, who are in sororities and they have told me about some of the stuff that goes on... I believe it was Chloe who even mentioned noticing one of the groups at SC putting aside the less attractive girls at the party in a room with scrapbooks and not having any sisters really interact with them... Maybe it's just the whole "L.A. Vibe in general" I went to school down there for a year and visit often enough to know that the stereotype about people overly caring about looks in la la land is *fairly* true... (I espcially noticed it because I was doing the acting thing) However I would hate to think that people who would make great sisters are being turned away just becasue they weren't "trendy" enough or weighed too much when they passed through the invisible scale at the front door.. (rumor I heard about one of the houses at UCLA, which I know is untrue... but the judging eyes of sisters may as well be a scale sizing up these women sometimes) I mean I know just because someone is beautiful doesn't mean that she can't uphold the standards and ideals of an org at all either but I don't think someone else who can do that as well should be turned down for membership just because she isn't as beautiful... I don't know what can be done about this... or why this is just really sitting badly with me right now... but I will step off my soap box and return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

I totally hear you Glitter. This type of "competitiveness" is what scares me the most about rush at UA. I know I don't look like some of the girls I've seen in the greek system here, and I certainly don't dress like them (I can only dream of affording a pair of Seven jeans), and I REALLY want to beleive that the stereotypes are wrong and they'll look past all that superficial stuff. I will freely admit to being a clotheshorse and caring about how I look, but my wallet and waist can't compete with a lot of these girls, and even after all the postive things I've heard, there's still a bit of "U of A is pretty competetive" going around, and I know what "competetive" seems to mean.

AZ Pinkiekittie... I totally didn't mean to scare you.. if I did I apologize, I think as long as you are aware that SOME women get chosen for somewhat superficial reasons, you are well ahead and will be able to see through this a find a place that is TRULY right for you, not just right for your image, and you will get into a house with women who DO look at the complete package, because they do exist. :D

Don't worry, you didn't scare me anymore than I already am. Not scared really, just nervous, as we all are. And you're right. They are not all like that, and I'm going into this thinking that none of them are. I'm sure I'll be able to see which house I feel is right for me, and none of that other stuff will matter. But thanks for your concern!!

OK, just had to post here because then we'd have FOUR USC/former USC gals on one thread! Rachel, Bethany, Chloe and Me. GO SC! (and ASU for Rachel now!)

Well, I was going to post about UCLA rush but lauradav and uclagirl explained it perfectly. However, although UCLA rush is somewhat competitive and highly superficial (even in "bad" houses the vast majority of girls are beautiful!!), numbers have been slowly dropping in the past years due to serious anti-Greek mentality through the general student population. Hopefully this year they will see an increase in girls pledging. I know that my chapter has received a greater number of letters of rec. than in years past already and rush is still several weeks away.

EXCUSE ME!!! AHEM!! AHEM!!! HELLOOOOOO?!
What am I....chopped liver??

Just because I am (waaaaaaaaaaaaay) Older than all y'all, don't forget about me -- I AM AN EXTREMELY PROUD GRADUATE OF THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, CLASS OF 1976!!!!!!! Wahoo!!! Fight on!!!
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And I am a Proud member of our Beta Alpha chapter of Gamma Phi Beta at USC!!! (Here's our house!)
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And a proud alumnus of the Trojan Marching Band!! :D
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The only thing I was way back then was several sizes smaller (lol!!!) -- I was no big catch by any means, but I was not EVER relegated to any back room for rush or anything....that being said, though I personally do think there are some sororities at USC who get girls for mainly their looks or money or connections or whatever....

Sorry GPhBLt... did not mean to exclude you!

That makes FIVE USC gals, representing 4 fabulous sororities and one PNM. Check us out, LOL

Um...I really hope you are not referring to my chapter.

Me too. I have met some girls from USC and they are pretty but have great personalities as well! Their smiles are infectious! :D

I like your 'imganinary scale' reference. I can honestly say that I've been guilty of judging a PNM by her cover, but quickly realized that someone who doesn't look like the typical 'sorority girl', can be the best damn sister you've ever had! We had a perfect example! She didn't have 'the look', but she held our schools Panhel pres position for TWO years. Not only that, but she's been one of the most active alumna...I hear about her all the time! More women need to remember, that there is more than what your group looks like from the outside.

aj

Oh heck no!!!! One of my two best friends when I was at SC was a DG and I was devastated when they dropped me right before pref...my other best friend was a Theta and they dropped me the same day as well...:( I was practically ready to jump off the top of Tommy Trojan - lol!

...that being said, I ended up where I was meant to be -- Gamma Phi Beta -- though I truly thought going in I was going to be DG or Theta due both GLO's having my best friends in them...Gamma Phi Beta was my home and it took both my best friends' sororities dropping me to realize that! Ironic twist since I graduated: My biological little sister is a Theta - go figure!

Another Side note of irony: Here in my little town -- Peachtree City, pop. 32,000 -- we are about 20 min drive southwest of Atlanta, off I85, there are two other USC sorority women and both are from the same era as me!! Yes it is ages ago ;) -- one is an ADPi who graduated in 1976 like me and the other is a DG who graduated in 1975....small world eh? :)

I never realized how competitive rush at USC is. I dropped mid to end-rush (right after pref) without even thinking about the competitiveness. I only realized like a year and a half later after watching girls rush and get all dolled up and observing how truly competitive USC rush is. Nonetheless, I definitely got out of it what I needed to....If I hadn't dropped as I did, I would never have gotten to experience Alpha Gamma Gamma or, now that I'm at ASU, Kappa Delta!!!

Thanks to all of the USC Women of Troy for posting about their respective sororities! I know from personal experience that whenever my chapter visited USC for road trips, I was always impressed by the beauty of the houses on Greek Row. Obviously, Stanford has probably the smallest Greek system of the PAC-10 schools (although it wasn't always that way), but if I would have ever transferred to another school, it definitely would have been USC or UCLA. But I had a great Greek experience at Stanford, mainly because for me, Greek life was not the dominant form of entertainment on campus. With all of the different dorms and row houses, there was always a party somewhere!

Props to the USC Song Girls!!!:D

(p.s.: I only hate USC once a year, during football season;) )

Hey IDAHO is a great place...
 

I am PROUD to be a Vandal...

Should I say, Go Irish or how about those Rose Bowls?

USC recruitment is not that formal
 

I beg to differ!!!
USC is actually not like southern schools!!! We have a defrilled recruitment: no skits, few door chants and even...the most sacred of all....there are chapters that wear denim!!! oooooooooooh!!!!
We have a high percentage of PNMs that receive a bid and many women can and do get into chapters without rec letters.
Many people think that we are super formal because we are a traditional school, but our recruitment can't even be compared to SMU or UT.
all I am trying to say is that we shouldnt scare these PNMs over a process that can be super low stress. I personally think that they should just relax and wait till they show up and go through it. Thats all!!

Yay USC!
 

Okay, seriously!
USC rush is a bit crazy, but it is in no way what it could be... if you know what I mean. We are def wearing jean one day this year, and no one would ever be put into a side room with scrapbooks by themselves. For anyone going through it this fall, i'm excited to meet you, and follow your heart and it will all work out :-)

Fight On!

I'm surprised that USC sorority girls wear denim for recruitment. I thought USC was more into the traditional sense than UCLA. At UCLA, I think demin skirt is probably the most casual, and worn on the first day only. We do have skits and slideshows too...