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GPhiBLtColonel 07-20-2003 05:32 PM

Greek Affiliation in Bios?
 
I happened to see on the Gamma Phi website that the first lady of Idaho is a Gamma Phi...I checked out her bio on the state of Idaho website and saw absolutely no mention of it -- WHY? (I emailed her to ask -- nicely -- if it was seen as unfavorable to list sorority membership -- no reply yet.) When Betsey Bayless was Arizona Secretary of State, there was no mention of her being a Gamma Phi in her website bio so I emailed her and asked why (nicely of course;) )and the response from press secretary was there wasn't enough room in the bio (????huh????)I have noticed that some beauty pageant candidates do NOT list their sorority affiliation, nor do some actors/actresses/TVstars/athletes/politician/businesspeople, etc...WHY? What are they ashamed of? Can anyone tell me? If we all truly want a good side of Greek membership to be presented to the public, then some of our public personalities should be "used" to help turn things around...I just don't understand why they seem so embarassed....:confused:

Tom Earp 07-20-2003 05:54 PM

Cele, I am with You!!!

Maybe it is PC uncorrect at the time!

If They are not Proud to be a Memeber of Their Org. I would raise Holy Hell!! Espec. when a Sister Calls!:o

GeekyPenguin 07-20-2003 06:02 PM

Cele, I totally agree - I wonder if people think that it will hurt them to declare their affiliation because then people might think they're elitist. I know when I'm old and famous I'll be happy to tell people I'm a Gamma Phi - but considering the school I pledged at, I don't think anybody will be calling me an elitist. ;) I know a lot of my friends' moms are sorority members, but aren't open about it. One of them is an alumna of one of the top sororities at Madison, but didn't mention it to me until I wore my lavalier over to their house. She said it makes people think she's ditzy.

CatStarESP4 07-20-2003 06:04 PM

I agree! There is so much negative publicity against GLOs (no thanks to MTV). I think their famous members should do their part to create positive publicity and help repair the damaged reputations suffered due to bad publicity. If you are a member of a GLO, say loud and proud! Don't be ashamed of it, for Heaven's sake!

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sugar and spice 07-20-2003 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
She said it makes people think she's ditzy.
I think this may be the reason why more political figures don't advertise it -- by many non-Greeks, sororities are looked at as being "frivolous" and that's not something an image most politicians want to promote. And considering how important an image is in politics, I can imagine why they might leave it out.

With pageant competitors, I imagine that most of them are involved in SO many organizations and have won so many awards and honors that they only list the ones that they're most involved in. I bet some of the contestants are so busy with other things that they're mostly "in name only" members of their GLOs, so they don't think it would be fair to list them.

pinkyphimu 07-20-2003 06:26 PM

well, as much as i enjoy knowing which celeb was in which glo, i don't think it is a big deal that they don't advertise it. first of all, let's say that this unnamed celeb was a phi mu....and she got arrested for dui. you know that it would be ALL over the news that suzy celebrity was arrested for dui and that she is a phi mu. now that would be negative publicity for the glo!!! there also might be a lot of pressure for a celeb from the glo, whether it be financially or in the media. as for political figures, i think it looks nice that they are in a glo, but don't want to advertise it as a part of their campaigns....for some of the reasons we listed in the resume questions thread...they might not want to lose a vote bc someone was cut from their group back when they were in college!!! and then there may be the part of then that wants to keep it private. they may be proud of their affiliation, but they keep it in their private life...not in their public life. or last but not least, they could be the type that feels that glos end at the end of college. let's face it, not every alum we know is involved as an alum....and some of them don't even mention that they were in a glo.

GPhiBLtColonel 07-20-2003 06:29 PM

sometimes I think that -- like Miss America refashioned their image and became a "Scholarship competition";) -- somehow Greeks need to fix their image - it'd be nice to have a reality show called Greeks Doin' Good in stead of Sorority Girls Gone Wild -- argh!!:rolleyes:

GammaPhiBabe 07-20-2003 06:56 PM

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it'd be nice to have a reality show called Greeks Doin' Good in stead of Sorority Girls Gone Wild
But no-one would BUY a video called Greeks Doin' Good! Sex sells! :p

lionlove 07-20-2003 09:56 PM

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Originally posted by sugar and spice

With pageant competitors, I imagine that most of them are involved in SO many organizations and have won so many awards and honors that they only list the ones that they're most involved in. I bet some of the contestants are so busy with other things that they're mostly "in name only" members of their GLOs, so they don't think it would be fair to list them.

I was thinking the same thing. People generally don't list every professional or social organization they're involved with in a short bio. A bio is generally a brief professional history, not a full length resume.

AGDLynn 07-20-2003 10:17 PM

Cele, did Kathy Cox, Ga. State School Supt elected last Nov., mention in her bio that she is a KKG from Emory? I know that she paid her 2002 Panhellenic dues..what happened to this year?;)

Munchkin03 07-20-2003 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by lionlove
I was thinking the same thing. People generally don't list every professional or social organization they're involved with in a short bio. A bio is generally a brief professional history, not a full length resume.
This could possibly be a reason why other women don't state their affiliations. After college, if they remain involved, they are usually involved in many other activities--many related to their career. As much as they might treasure the years they were collegians, there's only so much room on a bio form.

There's always the possibility that these women just aren't active anymore.

crystalline 07-20-2003 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by CatStarESP4
is so much negative publicity against GLOs (no thanks to MTV).

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patooey on MTV!

SmartBlondeGPhB 07-21-2003 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by Munchkin03
There's always the possibility that these women just aren't active anymore.
This one gets my vote...................

I know that the Congresswoman we gave a certificate of achievement to at convention last year isn't (since she's in my area).

texas*princess 07-21-2003 01:14 AM

I think maybe some congressmen/congresswomen, actors/actresses, etc etc do not list their GLO membership because it's not something they are "into" anymore.

Even though sorority/fraternity is a life-long committment, unfortunately, not everyone thinks of it that way. They see it as something they had fun with in college and that stage of their life is over.

I would definatley love to see more Greeks reveal their GLO membership! .. and better yet, I would love to see them all get involved with the GLO again :)

GPhiBLtColonel 07-21-2003 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AGDLynn
Cele, did Kathy Cox, Ga. State School Supt elected last Nov., mention in her bio that she is a KKG from Emory? I know that she paid her 2002 Panhellenic dues..what happened to this year?;)
Kathy Cox did have her Kappa Kappa Gamma membership listed in her bio online and elsewhere -- at least when she was the state rep from this area -- have not looked at her bio since she was elected...not sure why she did not pay dues this year ---

GPhiBLtColonel 07-21-2003 02:03 AM

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Originally posted by SmartBlondeGPhB
This one gets my vote...................

I know that the Congresswoman we gave a certificate of achievement to at convention last year isn't (since she's in my area).

Melanie -- perhaps she's upset that she is not listed in our Prominent Gamma Phis section under government/politics -- BIG faux pas!! Seriously, she probably does not even know she is not listed....sigh!

GeekyPenguin 07-21-2003 02:22 AM

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Originally posted by GPhiBLtColonel
Melanie -- perhaps she's upset that she is not listed in our Prominent Gamma Phis section under government/politics -- BIG faux pas!! Seriously, she probably does not even know she is not listed....sigh!
Oh it's okay, Laurel Clark isn't listed anywhere that I could find. I think that part of our site has to still be under development - as there are a lot of prominent people missing!

GPhiBLtColonel 07-21-2003 04:20 AM

like me!;) :D

ZetaMelOU 07-21-2003 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GPhiBLtColonel
sometimes I think that -- like Miss America refashioned their image and became a "Scholarship competition";) -- somehow Greeks need to fix their image - it'd be nice to have a reality show called Greeks Doin' Good in stead of Sorority Girls Gone Wild -- argh!!:rolleyes:
Well, does anyone know anyone who could get a connection to the entertainment industry? Surely we have brothers and sisters out there who could, and would love to, get a show like that in the door.

AZpinkkittie 07-21-2003 11:48 AM

That's an excellent idea. The whole reason Sorority Life was on MTV was because the producer was greek, so there's gotta be another greek in the industry that wants to show the true, positive side of greek life. All of you super successful alums out there, get cracking on this!!

GPhiBLtColonel 07-21-2003 04:17 PM

Ack!
 
If the producer was greek, why on earth would he/she want to portray greek life in such a questionable way????:confused:

texas*princess 07-21-2003 04:19 PM

Re: Ack!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by GPhiBLtColonel
If the producer was greek, why on earth would he/she want to portray greek life in such a questionable way????:confused:
Simple -- he wants a show that will get RATINGS. Train-wrecks tend to get a lot of attention, so I'm guessing that's why SL/FL is the way it is.

I had also heard that the person who came up with the idea for the shows is Greek and wanted to portray Greeks in a good light.

Hmm.. nice job :p

APhiAngel 07-21-2003 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CatStarESP4
I agree! There is so much negative publicity against GLOs (no thanks to MTV). I think their famous members should do their part to create positive publicity and help repair the damaged reputations suffered due to bad publicity. If you are a member of a GLO, say loud and proud! Don't be ashamed of it, for Heaven's sake!

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I agree with the negative publicity that MTV gave out, and it effects greeks everywhere. I am the RUSH chair for Panhell at my school, and we had a table at orientation last week, nad some parents of new frosh came up to me and asked if we were anything like the sororities on MTV. I had to explain that our sororities are NOTHING like those on MTV.

I don't understand why famous, or well known people would not claim their sorority, perhaps if they to claim the GLO affilitation then it would give us greeks a better reputation.

Edited b/c I can't spell :D

GPhiBLtColonel 07-21-2003 04:37 PM

One thing I never grasped...for NPC's annual badge day -- the first Monday of March -- why don't they send an advance notice to GLO alum celebrities who are in the public eye and ask that they wear their badges that day -- or why the GLOs them selves don't nicely "beseech" public personalities who are alums to wear their badges -- just this once....I think it'd be neat to see badges on Katie Couric or Jane Pauley or Erin Moran or Joy Behar or Condoleeza Rice or Laura Bush or Carol Duval (HFTV but cannot recall whihc GLO she's an alum of) etc etc etc...sigh....when I am queen of the world! The badge will be mandatory attire for ALL alums!!;)

KappaKittyCat 07-21-2003 04:43 PM

Yeah. I can understand why people like Condi Rice don't wear their badges every day, but when it's International Badge Day... get a clue!

To those who hide their affiliation for fear of stereotypes, I inquire: how will we ever overcome the stereotypes if the subjects of them give tacit agreement by their silence?

GPhiBLtColonel 07-21-2003 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KappaKittyCat
Yeah. I can understand why people like Condi Rice don't wear their badges every day, but when it's International Badge Day... get a clue!

To those who hide their affiliation for fear of stereotypes, I inquire: how will we ever overcome the stereotypes if the subjects of them give tacit agreement by their silence?

Excellent Excellent point kappakitty!

Now if NPC would just contact all these "famous" alums prior to badge day.....:rolleyes:

GammaPhiBabe 07-21-2003 04:54 PM

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I can understand why people like Condi Rice don't wear their badges every day, but when it's International Badge Day... get a clue!
To be fair, Int'l Badge Day isn't very well publicized. If I weren't a member of this board, I would never have known about it. I think that NPC and the individual sororities need to be more proactive in getting this message out to their alumnae.

I'm sure that most of these high profile women are very busy and probably don't realize that there is even such a thing as International Badge Day.


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