maybe no SKEPi after all...
 

I'm not so sure if my school will approve of a social Greek organization. I am wondering if it's possible to use the name of Sigma Kappa Epsilon Pi without any Greek ties to it. More of a women's social club, not so heavily influenced on it being a "sorority".

Any ideas?

what are you talking about?

My school may not approve of a social Greek organization. My school has four Honor socities with Greek names. Because they are academic, and this sorority may be socially based.. they may not approve.

Whatever me and my friend decide what Sigma Kappa Epsilon Pi will be based on, whether it's a service sorority or what.

But, I'm also worried that they may turn it down because it's related to Greek life.

I was asking if it's possible to have a Greek organization that isn't so much focused on Greek life, but the real purpose..

Is this a response to another thread? I am confused as well...

at any rate, if you have any type of selective membership that's based on intangibles (i.e. personality, involvement etc) rather than GPA, it doesn't matter how much you say "our real purpose is service" the school will still look at it as a social sorority.

No, I dont think so. Our school has 4 honor socities with Greek letters attached to them. If we decide that our group is service and social, maybe they'd look at it differently. I am wondering if I could go off the basis of the local sororities website as the name, and all that stuff.

Huh? :confused:

Im saying if my school doesn't want a Greek attachment, I am asking/saying could I use the name of Sigma Kappa Epislon Pi without the heavy influence of Greek life. the local sororities website http://www.geocities.com/localsororities under starting a local, says to come up with a name, colors, mascot, etc.

Lots of groups that have begun as locals with the intent to nationally affiliate in the future have had non-Greek names - TWIG (The Women's Interest Group) and Hearts are two of the ones that eventually joined my national sorority, ASA.

If Sigma Kappa Epsilon Pi MEANS something to you it would be fine to use, but it's generally frowned upon to just pull letters out of nowhere for no reason.

All NPC sororities do service, but they are not service sororities. Service sororities differ in that they usually allow anyone interested in membership to pursue it (although not everyone is successful in that pursuit). Social sororities choose their members in a mutual selection process.

First, I have to agree with everyone else??:confused:

Next, is this a high school or college?

If it is a college, what is the name of said college. Where is said college located?

Something dont sound right here!

Prove me wrong!:D

Hey Tom!

Her college is in her signature. ;)

We chose the name because we feel that what Sigma represents, that the students (maybe I should put in the mission statement of Mount Ida), reflect Sigma. My college is very diverse.

SKEPi is not affilated with NPC or any other chapter.

http://www.mountida.edu
Newton, Massachusetts

College

For more understanding, you could check out cristinasmile's previous threads below:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...threadid=36366

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...threadid=32434

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...threadid=36366

I'm really sorry. I feel that sometimes I am repeating myself because I posted a few messages in different parts of the board.

Hopefully someone can give me a good direction of where I'm headed next.

If you want to get anywhere, you have to try. Go to your director of Student Affairs and tell him or her that you are interested in starting a sorority on campus. Give reasons why you think there needs to be one on your campus. Ask that at the very least, you'd like to start a women's social club. In that case, you might not be able to use Greek letters, but you could still form a "sisterhood" from that.

If you want to start a sorority, you will definitely need the school's blessing, and it won't be a decision that is reached quickly. I'm betting it would take you at least a year to convince the administration that you need a Greek system (or even just one organization!). I'd start forming a good arguement, because you're going to get grilled.

The problem is that a lot of people seem confused. . .maybe you should collect your thoughts and then write a big post with details.

And since the sorority you want to start isn't affiliated with NPC and your campus is diverse. . .why not make it MULTICULTURAL!!!! Yeahhhhhh!!! lol Can you tell I'm bias? :D


ONE Luv

I also posted this in the Sigma Kappa forum...maybe this will help. :)

Cristinasmile, I think some of the confusion is lying in the fact that that you are calling Sigma Kappa Epsilon Pi a local sorority, yet you want to use Sigma Kappa's history, their colors, and new member manual. To many people, that sounds like you are developing an interest group to become a local chapter of Sigma Kappa.

While I'm sure that the Sigma Kappas are very flattered that you admire them so much (after all, who wouldn't be? ), if you are truly looking to establish a local sorority with no intention of affiliating with any NPC sorority, it is not in good form to appropriate Sigma Kappa's history, colors, mascot, symbols, or ask to use their new member manual.

You are starting on a wonderful new adventure--creating a new local sorority! Why don't you take all the things which you admire about Sigma Kappa and use it as a springboard to create something totally new, different, and unique? Good luck to you in your endeavors!

Ohhhh, now I understand! You are so right Greeklawgirl!

Here's my post... for one and for all.

I go to Mount Ida College ( http://www.mountida.edu ) . We do not have any sororities or fraternities. A friend of mine, and myself, we are interested in starting a local sorority that is unaffiliated with NPC. I contacted the NPC and they told me that the name of the sorority I want to start, Sigma Kappa Epilson Pi, is unaffiliated with NPC or any other NPC chapter.

SKEPi, regardless where it's a "sorority" or a "woman's group" is a service and social organization. We would like to plan events for the Mount Ida campus, events for the community of Newton, and for the Sisters themselves.

I am a little bit worried that my school will not recognize us as a "sorority". There are 4 Greek Honor Socities at my campus. Whether they use Greek letters or not, we call ourselves SKEPi.

Mount Ida used to be all female.

cristinasmile,

I would encourage you to read through a lot of threads and learn a little more about greek letter organizations. It would help you out a lot in your journey. There are only 26 npc groups. You could have checked to see if you had picked one of those on the website yourself. Really no need to contact NPC, although I am sure they were happy to help you out. They are really nice like that.

Local sororities are usually started for one of two purposes. One is to be truly local and never affiliate. The other is with the purpose of affiliating with a larger group in the future. Either way when you start your group you will chose your own name, letters, mascots, colors etc. You would want to have symbols that pertain to your group, and if you affiliate in the future that is when you would start using information from another group. I think I am not the only one who is still in the dark regarding your purpose. But I am always in favor of adding greek life to a new school! If you are striving to become an npc group in the future, keep your options open. All GLOs have different criteria for colonizing a local sorority. Your first choices might not be the right fit.
Check out this thread on naming your org, it might explain a lot to you. Kappa Gamma Delta

Good luck! There is a lot of great information in these threads and lots of great people willing to offer great advice.

The name, the colors, mascots, etc. are all being freshly chosen by the current sisters of SKEPi. LOCAL sorority, NO affiliation with NPC. Maybe somepoint down the road the Sisters want to affiliate. for now, we are local. Unaffiliated.

OK...I think everyone was confused because you kept mentioning Sigma Kappa. Even if you feel some of their ideas dovetail with yours, it's still important to make sure everyone knows you are creating something brand new to avoid any misunderstandings. (See this thread for an explanation of why.)

OKAY, I checked the Web Site for Mount Ida!!

cristinasmile:

If I can give a small peice of advice to you!

Dont post all over the boards as coming to the attention of a lot of people!

You and the other person must decide what way You want to go with your new group that you are trying to start! Service/Social? Not both. You must have a specific goal not several. What will the School allow. It looks like 1300 students will not attract a National Org. Period, let alone what the school has to say.

There are a ton of people here to help you but do not get crazy posting and getting silly about it!

Use a little common sense and try to be coherant with your posts Io we can understand what you are trying to do!!!


LOL, if you would do research on GC, There is something Named after me!: Earp Speak!!!:D

Welcome to GC and hope you get some answers, but ask questions that we can help to answer for you!

None but GCers wish sommething for a new person trying to start something new!

i was the Founder Of My Local! Know from what I speak!:)

Well said Tom. I was starting to wonder if all the posts on the front page would be from a thread she started.

XOXOXO, Sweetie!

I just love adoration!:cool:

I get so little!!!

S**t I have lost Earp Speak as a Mod has Changed me!!!!!!:rolleyes:

lol
 

Glad I could be of service to make you feel good about yourself Tom. :)

sounds like...
 

you have a plan. good luck and keep us posted.
:)

This thread was extememly confusing, and Cristina I'm still unsure whether I understand. Maybe I'm wrong here, but it really sounds like you are establishing a club with sorority characteristics. I think *you* need to understand the real reason for this organization before trying to explain it to the rest of us. Please clarify: do you want a sorority (whether local or service) because your school doesn't have any and it really means something to you to start one, or are you trying to start a club/group for social and service purposes but are basing it on Greek characteristics on a whim?

We are trying to start a group for social and service purposes. It is better for us to start it off as a social group, rather than a sorority. Eventhough we may look at Greek ways of recruitment, we are not in any way trying to emulate a sorority.

Okay, so you have a greek name, symbols/mascots/colors/etc., and you may use Greek recruitment, but you don't want to be Greek? :confused: What's the difference? Why use the Greek background?

I think what Christina is trying to say is that, if her college doesn't approve of sororities, she could start something that is essentially a sorority but call it a "social club". There are private, religious-affiliated colleges (Harding University in Searcy, AR comes to mind) that have "social clubs"--essentially fraternities and sororities, greek names and all, but under a different name. I guess because, unfortunately, the words "fraternity" and "sorority" have bad connotations to some people that "social clubs" are just more acceptable. I dunno. I have a friend that goes to Harding and is in a "social club" there called Kappa Gamma Epsilon (I think).

CHristina, if you think your college would not approve of a sorority, then it might not be a bad idea to call it a "social club" but essentially be a sorority. Let us know what happens. :)

Another thing i am wondering if she is worried about is that she doesn't want to 'steal' another sorority's name. (maybe.) Maybe SKEPi is something totally original. However as a local girl myself, i will tell you that there are lots of other chi deltas around the country but only one other is affiliated with us. meaning that some other group might use the same name and that's completely fine. example: chi delta CSUS' colors are pink and blue and our symbol is the palm tree. Chi Delta, in Ark's colors are blue and yellow and has the owl as their symbol. they carry on with their traditions and we carry on with ours. tho it is kinda neat to have them sign our guestbook and say hello to fellow 'sisters.'

Point being, if you have settled on that name, fine. however, if you wanna look at all possible greek letter combos, check out Ariesrising's website. Do a search for her name, the site is in her sig. But i agree with 33girl... don't just pick greek letters just because.

good luck.