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cristinasmile 07-14-2003 12:14 AM

create a social sorority
 
I am very much so interested in starting a social sorority chapter at my college. How does one go about doing this? Does one need to find a chapter to be affilated with to call it a "social sorority"? Is this process different than starting a regular sorority chapter?


** As of Tuesday, July 15 at 707pm Eastern Time, the group I am trying to create is a social women's group, unaffiliated. In the future, maybe the women of the group would want to be a local.

There is no greek life on our campus. Whatever we choose as our name, whether we choose words in English and translate them to Greek that represent our group, or simply use English, that is our decision.

I am not ripping off Sigma K. I clearly understand that all mascots, colors, history, etc are copywrited to Sigma and may not be used in any shape way or form. **

James 07-14-2003 11:51 AM

Well lets start with what is on your campus now.

Which sororities do you you have?

which campus? (You don't have to answer)

cristinasmile 07-14-2003 12:38 PM

We don't have any sororities.
I go to Mount Ida College.

It was suggested to me to start a local sorority instead of going through the process of being affiliated. My friend and I are creating this together. One of the sites gave a list of all the names of the sororities and such that are in use. My friend and I chose the name of Sigma Kappa Epsilon Pi. I like what Sigma Kappa represents, eventhough as Sigma Kappa Epsilon Pi we are making our own rules, etc because there isn't a Sigma Kappa Epsilon Pi before us trying to create it as a local chapter.

mmcat 07-14-2003 11:58 PM

go for it...
 
you might want to check several other threads here from those who have already started their own.
wishinhopin comes to mind on the rush thread.
good luck:D

butterfly2001nc 07-15-2003 09:08 AM

sorority
 
Do you want to start from stratch and from a new sorority or perhaps bring an existing sorority to your campus?

You need to think of what you what your sorority to be (ideals, etc.)

Research, Research!!!

PM me if you need any help!

cristinasmile 07-15-2003 09:49 AM

Re: sorority
 
Quote:

Originally posted by butterfly2001nc
Do you want to start from stratch and from a new sorority or perhaps bring an existing sorority to your campus?

You need to think of what you what your sorority to be (ideals, etc.)

Research, Research!!!

PM me if you need any help!

No, we are creating a local, unaffiliated "sorority" but for the meantime we are straying from the word "sorority" and simply calling it a "woman's group". The name of us is currently in the works, but we are Sigma Kappa.. and two other secret words with meaning.

We want our sorority to provide programs/activities for the Mount Ida campus, participate in community service, and have our own social/programs. One thing that I think is important is to have a program specially towards women on an important subject, like date rape.

DigitalAngel126 07-15-2003 11:55 AM

Re: Re: sorority
 
Quote:

Originally posted by cristinasmile
The name of us is currently in the works, but we are Sigma Kappa.. and two other secret words with meaning.

For the love of all things Holy...You are not Sigma Kappa AND anything. You are using "Sigma" and "Kappa" as two letters in whatever your org may be. Not our org + letters you like.

cristinasmile 07-15-2003 11:59 AM

Re: Re: Re: sorority
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DigitalAngel126
For the love of all things Holy...You are not Sigma Kappa AND anything. You are using "Sigma" and "Kappa" as two letters in whatever your org may be. Not our org + letters you like.
YEAH.. I'm not calling our local Sigma Kappa because that's already taken and copywrited.

Sigma Kappa Eirini Pi is not taken.
eirini means peace.

PM_Mama00 07-15-2003 12:00 PM

Why don't you use something original and not something someone on GC fed to you?

cristinasmile 07-15-2003 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
Why don't you use something original and not something someone on GC fed to you?
Nobody has "feeded" me anything.

PM_Mama00 07-15-2003 12:04 PM

Yes they did. Someone in one of the other threads said... hey why don't you use something with a meaning, such as Eirini which means peace.

Are you sure you're in college? No one has feeded me anything? Huh?

That1LoudChick 07-15-2003 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
Yes they did. Someone in one of the other threads said... hey why don't you use something with a meaning, such as Eirini which means peace.

Are you sure you're in college? No one has feeded me anything? Huh?

Hey now! Let's keep this out of the boards! She asked for help now let's give her some!

GeekyPenguin 07-15-2003 12:12 PM

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Originally posted by That1LoudChick
Hey now! Let's keep this out of the boards! She asked for help now let's give her some!
I think she's being shady...you don't come on here and say "I want to start a local, Kappa Kappa Gamma Rho" unless you have an intention of affiliating with KKG - she wants to be called Sigma Kappa, but it sounds like there's no intention of affiliiating with SK. We look out for each other in the NPC. :D

cristinasmile 07-15-2003 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
I think she's being shady...you don't come on here and say "I want to start a local, Kappa Kappa Gamma Rho" unless you have an intention of affiliating with KKG - she wants to be called Sigma Kappa, but it sounds like there's no intention of affiliiating with SK. We look out for each other in the NPC. :D
Oh my god... I really want to smack someone silly right now.

Look people-
I am starting a social women's group, not a sorority right now. Maybe some point down the road become affiliated, but not this very moment. Yes, there's a hope to affiliate with Sigma Kappa, but for now we are a women's club, not a sororority.

We may call our group Sigma Kappa Peristeri or Sigma Kappa Eirini

GeekyPenguin 07-15-2003 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cristinasmile
Oh my god... I really want to smack someone silly right now.

Look people-
I am starting a social women's group, not a sorority right now. Maybe some point down the road become affiliated, but not this very moment. Yes, there's a hope to affiliate with Sigma Kappa, but for now we are a women's club, not a sororority.

We may call our group Sigma Kappa Peristeri or Sigma Kappa Eirini

Are you going to call it Peristeri, or Pi? Generally the outward letters (Kappa, Alpha, Banana, etc) symbolize something inward. For example, Gamma Phi Beta could stand for Good Flowers Bloom. (No, you didn't just learn our secret meaning, sorry.) Your posts have confused a lot of people - both in their multitude and their content. Saying you want to start SKEPi but use Sigma Kappa's history (yes, I know you corrected that on another forum, but most people here haven't seen it) is not correct and is very confusing.

BTW, a bit of newbie info for you - don't come onto boards looking for advice and then say you want to smack people. It doesn't get you very far. :p

PM_Mama00 07-15-2003 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cristinasmile
Oh my god... I really want to smack someone silly right now.

Wow.

Just to let you know, what GeekyPenguin said is true.

The women on this board have a certain sisterhood. No we don't have initiation or a real sisterhood unless we're from the same org...

But DO NOT MESS with my girls!

DigitalAngel126 07-15-2003 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by PM_Mama00
Wow.
DO NOT MESS with my girls!


Awwww...*in a cheesy The Nanny's Fran Fine Accent* I'm so flattttttered!!! :p

U too GeekyPenguin :)

cristinasmile 07-15-2003 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Are you going to call it Peristeri, or Pi? Generally the outward letters (Kappa, Alpha, Banana, etc) symbolize something inward. For example, Gamma Phi Beta could stand for Good Flowers Bloom. (No, you didn't just learn our secret meaning, sorry.) Your posts have confused a lot of people - both in their multitude and their content. Saying you want to start SKEPi but use Sigma Kappa's history (yes, I know you corrected that on another forum, but most people here haven't seen it) is not correct and is very confusing.

BTW, a bit of newbie info for you - don't come onto boards looking for advice and then say you want to smack people. It doesn't get you very far. :p

We'd call it Sigma Kappa Erini (I think I spelled it wrong) Pi.

PM_Mama00 07-15-2003 12:29 PM

Well now that we know the significance of your letters, thank you and drive on through.

Lunarwolf 07-15-2003 12:35 PM

Erm, I don't mean to be offensive to you, but your posts from the beginning haven't been too clear.

You say that you want to start a women's group, for social and service. That's fabulous: Call it the Mount Ida College Alliance or MICA for short. Or WOMIC, Women of MIC. Something that spells out who and what you are. I for one don't have a clue what 'eriniri' is or whatchamacallit. How can you possibly draw people in to a new organization with a misleading name like Sigma Kappa What Ever?

The problem with coming on the boards and asking for advice about letters and how-to's when you state CLEARLY that you're not forming a sorority points to two things: You want a 'suggestive' name, and you don't just want a women's group, you want an underground sorority. Feel free to correct me if I'm way off base, but so far I have to confess to being skeptical.

Worst comes to worst, if your administration is so anti-Greek, start up an 'eating club.' That's what they do over at Princeton, I believe.

greeklawgirl 07-15-2003 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cristinasmile
We may call our group Sigma Kappa Peristeri
I'm not asking this to be a smartass, but why do you want to name yourselves after a pigeon? Because that's what a "peristeri" is.

In the alternative, a "peristeri" is also New Testament Greek for "dove," which again is one of Sigma Kappa's symbols. Even "eirini," meaning "peace" could be construed as alluding to Sigma Kappa because the dove is an international symbol of peace. I can't stress strongly enough that this is NOT kosher.

cristinasmile, I understand that you are feeling defensive right now, but you have to understand that you seem to be telling us one thing and doing another.

I'm not a Sigma Kappa, but I'm getting really agitated FOR them. Honestly, I think they've showed remarkable restraint under the circumstances. If this concerned Alpha Gamma Delta, I'd be ballistic by now.

cristinasmile 07-15-2003 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by greeklawgirl
I'm not asking this to be a smartass, but why do you want to name yourselves after a pigeon? Because that's what a "peristeri" is.

In the alternative, a "peristeri" is also New Testament Greek for "dove," which again is one of Sigma Kappa's symbols. Even "eirini," meaning "peace" could be construed as alluding to Sigma Kappa because the dove is an international symbol of peace. I can't stress strongly enough that this is NOT kosher.

cristinasmile, I understand that you are feeling defensive right now, but you have to understand that you seem to be telling us one thing and doing another.

I'm not a Sigma Kappa, but I'm getting really agitated FOR them. Honestly, I think they've showed remarkable restraint under the circumstances. If this concerned Alpha Gamma Delta, I'd be ballistic by now.

The dove is a sign of peace worldwide.. International.

Trying to choose a name for our group that has meaning is driving me insane. I say one thing, and people automatically assume another.

astroAPhi 07-15-2003 01:04 PM

cristina, just to warn you, you MIGHT want to choose different letters for other reasons than people have mentioned.

I noticed that SKEPi is rather close to SAEPi, the sorority featured on the first season of Sorority Life. You mentioned that you had seen a few episodes, so maybe that's where you decided to use four letters instead of the usual two or three. While most of us agree that they were MUCH better than DZO, some people still feel that the show has negative connotations. Bringing this name to a school where there is NO Greek life whatsoever may cause administrators to be very close-minded to your idea.

Maybe you should form an interest group first and THEN come up with letters. That way it's something your entire sisterhood thought of.

33girl 07-15-2003 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cristinasmile
The dove is a sign of peace worldwide.. International.

Trying to choose a name for our group that has meaning is driving me insane. I say one thing, and people automatically assume another.

I don't think anyone would have a problem with a group called Eirini meaning peace, or Imani meaning faith, or whatever means the most to your group. It's the apparent use of the letters Sigma Kappa with no meaning behind them, other than they are the name of a national sorority, that people have a problem with.

If your intent as a group is to affiliate with Sig Kap and that is the goal you are working toward, pick another letter as these girls did. http://www.millersv.edu/~kappaphi/hist.html

If you are not sure if you want to affiliate later, choose a neutral name as these girls did http://www.iit.edu/~asa/history.htm or read the "rush at UCSC" thread. The women at UCSC chose "Nu Beta Omicron" as their letters, which stand for "Never Be Ordinary."

astroAPhi 07-15-2003 01:10 PM

By the way GP, do you think the Gamma Phis at my school would think I was nuts if I said, "Hi, Good Flowers Bloom!" every time I saw one? :D

Kristin AGD 07-15-2003 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
I don't think anyone would have a problem with a group called Eirini meaning peace, or Imani meaning faith, or whatever means the most to your group. It's the apparent use of the letters Sigma Kappa with no meaning behind them, other than they are the name of a national sorority, that people have a problem with.

If your intent as a group is to affiliate with Sig Kap and that is the goal you are working toward, pick another letter as these girls did. http://www.millersv.edu/~kappaphi/hist.html

If you are not sure if you want to affiliate later, choose a neutral name as these girls did http://www.iit.edu/~asa/history.htm or read the "rush at UCSC" thread. The women at UCSC chose "Nu Beta Omicron" as their letters, which stand for "Never Be Ordinary."

For groups wanting to bring a national to campus I always liked Sigma Iota Gamma~ meaning Sorority Interest Group.

GeekyPenguin 07-15-2003 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by astroAPhi
By the way GP, do you think the Gamma Phis at my school would think I was nuts if I said, "Hi, Good Flowers Bloom!" every time I saw one? :D
Yes I think so. There was a big article on one of their sisters in our magazine, she was from another country and emigrated here...I can't for the life of me remember her name right now. Christa maybe?

Anyways back on topic, when we were still NMs I always tried to guess what GPB meant and I thought up all this crazy stuff like "Girls Pick Boys" and "Guys Pick Boogers" and that jazz...then realized Phi made the F sound, not P. After that most of the meanings I made up were dirty. ;)

And to get even more back on topic, when my sorority decided to affiliate with an NPC org, we changed our name from Athenaeum Society to Alpha Theta Chi Sorority. (HI AOX81 :D) The reason was that we wanted to have Greek letters, thinking it would help in our appeal. Yes, they did have a meaning, and no, I don't know what it was, and if I did, I wouldn't tell you. You'll notice that it has nothing to do with Gamma Phi Beta - something to think about.

meridionaleDG 07-15-2003 01:26 PM

Oh my god. I am sorry but I don't see how someone like you can start an organization. It is so hard for people to get things on your head (and I am speaking not only from your posts on greekchat but also in the sororitygirl Live Journal).

I know you got the Erini thing from me, becuase I was tyring to explain how people choose letters that mean something.

You wouldn't actually call your sorority "Erini", you would just use the Sigma letter to represent it. The whole point in using letters in your name is to abbreviate words only YOUR SISTERS will know once initiated.

Tkae my sorority for example. Delta Gamma (DG) is an abbrevation for some certain greek words. Delta Gammas know what the letters stand for and what our name means - but no one else does because it is part of our ritual.

If you go around saying what your letters stand for - then there isn't anything special to your group because everyone will know what your greek letters mean. What is the fun in that?

Please, for the love of all that is holy, research greek organizations a little better before you start your own. It seems like your whole knwoledge of the greek world is like me applying to be a chemical engineer for NASA when I am just a History major.

I know this sounds mean, but you just keep saying the same thing - and we keep trying to explain things to you and nothing is sinking in! Please - go back and reread everything people have told you and sit for a minute. Let it sink in before replying. Infact, just go unplug your keyboard and lock it in your car and use your mouse. Seriously. And I swear if you reply to this with "The sisters of Sigma Kappa Epsilon Pi are NOT an NPC sorority" - I am going to scream. You keep repeating things we already know (infact they are things we told you).

cristinasmile 07-15-2003 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kristin AGD
For groups wanting to bring a national to campus I always liked Sigma Iota Gamma~ meaning Sorority Interest Group.
Is Sigma Iota Gamma copywrited?

If not, could I take that into consideration?

DigitalAngel126 07-15-2003 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by meridionaleDG
Infact, just go unplug your keyboard and lock it in your car and use your mouse. Seriously. And I swear if you reply to this with "The sisters of Sigma Kappa Epsilon Pi are NOT an NPC sorority" - I am going to scream. You keep repeating things we already know (infact they are things we told you).
Girl, you AB-SO-LUTE-LY killll me!! Bwhahahaha!!! :D

cristinasmile 07-15-2003 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by meridionaleDG
Oh my god. I am sorry but I don't see how someone like you can start an organization. It is so hard for people to get things on your head (and I am speaking not only from your posts on greekchat but also in the sororitygirl Live Journal).

I know you got the Erini thing from me, becuase I was tyring to explain how people choose letters that mean something.

You wouldn't actually call your sorority "Erini", you would just use the Sigma letter to represent it. The whole point in using letters in your name is to abbreviate words only YOUR SISTERS will know once initiated.

Tkae my sorority for example. Delta Gamma (DG) is an abbrevation for some certain greek words. Delta Gammas know what the letters stand for and what our name means - but no one else does because it is part of our ritual.

If you go around saying what your letters stand for - then there isn't anything special to your group because everyone will know what your greek letters mean. What is the fun in that?

Please, for the love of all that is holy, research greek organizations a little better before you start your own. It seems like your whole knwoledge of the greek world is like me applying to be a chemical engineer for NASA when I am just a History major.

I know this sounds mean, but you just keep saying the same thing - and we keep trying to explain things to you and nothing is sinking in! Please - go back and reread everything people have told you and sit for a minute. Let it sink in before replying. Infact, just go unplug your keyboard and lock it in your car and use your mouse. Seriously. And I swear if you reply to this with "The sisters of Sigma Kappa Epsilon Pi are NOT an NPC sorority" - I am going to scream. You keep repeating things we already know (infact they are things we told you).


Saying "I am sorry but I don't see how someone like you can start an organization." is offensive. Many people like me started their own organizations.

GeekyPenguin 07-15-2003 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cristinasmile
Is Sigma Iota Gamma copywrited?

If not, could I take that into consideration?

CHECK! Check with the US Patent Office. Do a Google for "Sigma Iota Gamma." Starting a sorority is a lot of work - you need to be prepared.

texas*princess 07-15-2003 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DigitalAngel126
Girl, you AB-SO-LUTE-LY killll me!! Bwhahahaha!!! :D
*~LOL~*

I concur!

Kristin AGD 07-15-2003 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cristinasmile
Is Sigma Iota Gamma copywrited?

If not, could I take that into consideration?

The easiest way to research is to search things on google.com

I think you would be fine with SIG. If a sorority is using it, it is not a large national organization. And I didn't see any on google except for at a small college in New England with no greek system, probably trying to do the same thing you are trying to do.

Edited to add: Do not try to contact them for their approval. You don't need their approval.

PM_Mama00 07-15-2003 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DigitalAngel126
Girl, you AB-SO-LUTE-LY killll me!! Bwhahahaha!!! :D
You rock my world you know you did...

PM_Mama00 07-15-2003 01:44 PM

How bout Sigma Alpha Delta Sigma? Is that one taken?

Lunarwolf 07-15-2003 01:45 PM

Cristinasmile, most people who start up sororities have a good working knowledge or at least have put in the effort to do research. The least you could have done in this instance was head on over to the Locals board, READ THROUGH, and once you had a general sense of things, start asking questions that show more knowledge that backwards-looking letter-picking.

In addition, most people who start up sororities are independent, intelligent women with a vision. Glancing through your profile and your LJ, I'm afraid being a 23 year old college student who still lives with her parents indicates that at this point in your life, you have other things that need your attention and energy. Dreams are fine, but in your case you need to seriously reprioritize your short term and long term goals and plans.

cristinasmile 07-15-2003 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kristin AGD
The easiest way to research is to search things on google.com

I think you would be fine with SIG. If a sorority is using it, it is not a large national organization. And I didn't see any on google except for at a small college in New England with no greek system, probably trying to do the same thing you are trying to do.

Which college was that?

meridionaleDG 07-15-2003 01:54 PM

Tau Kappa probably isn't taken. TK - those letters look good together.

This can be your ritual:

The greek letters Tau Kappa stand for Toublo Kefali. Toublo being the greek word for Brick and Kefali being the greek word for....

Wait. This would be mean. I must shut up.

FAB*SpiceySpice 07-15-2003 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by meridionaleDG
Tau Kappa probably isn't taken. TK - those letters look good together.

This can be your ritual:

The greek letters Tau Kappa stand for Toublo Kefali. Toublo being the greek word for Brick and Kefali being the greek word for....

Wait. This would be mean. I must shut up.

http://superbabies.homestead.com/files/xxrotflmao.gif

Oh no....you did not go there! That's *too* funny.

http://superbabies.homestead.com/files/lol3.gif


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