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lionlove 06-25-2003 12:16 PM

Calling all people sick of partisan bickering!
 
Democrat, Republican, Green, Socialist, Fascist, Independent, whatever your party.

It is well over a year before the next election and if you're already sick of partisan bickering, this thread is for you!

The1calledTKE 06-25-2003 12:18 PM

Bickering = bad

discussion = good


Hopefully the threads can and will come to great discussion

*keeps fingers crossed*

Dionysus 06-25-2003 12:29 PM

Count me in!

Is there anyone on this board that is politically moderate...or close to it? Anyone?

...and then some black or white thinker will probably to tell us that we have to be one thing or the other.

This board is hell of the contrast where i'm from - most of us are slightly left.

This board has given me the oppurtunity to learn that not all conservatives/republicans and strong liberals/democrats live up to their stereotypes.

But, occasionally and unfortunately these stereotypes are reinforced.

FAB*SpiceySpice 06-25-2003 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dionysus
Count me in!

Is there anyone on this board that is politically moderate...or close to it? Anyone?

...and then some black or white thinker will probably to tell us that we have to be one thing or the other.

This board is hell of the contrast where i'm from - most of us are slightly left.

This board has given me the oppurtunity to learn that not all conservatives/republicans and strong liberals/democrats live up to their stereotypes.

But, occasionally these stereotypes are reinforced.


Well this may make me a horrible American but I am just not into politics at ALL. I know I know, I should be informed about all of it, but it just gives me a headache! I agree with some Republican ideas and some Democrat ideas, I am just smack in the middle, and I don't want to choose EITHER! :D

But yes, I am sick of the bickering as well, just b/c you don't agree with someone else's opinion doesn't make their opinion less valid. :rolleyes:

AlphaSigOU 06-25-2003 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dionysus
Count me in!

Is there anyone on this board that is politically moderate...or close to it? Anyone?

I happen to be a political moderate... registered Republican but I don't toe the line on some of their political platform.

xok85xo 06-25-2003 12:54 PM

you know..there never would have been a problem if those stupid republicans hadn't hijaked the thread and started talking sh*t :)

teehee

Steeltrap 06-25-2003 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FAB*SpiceySpice
Well this may make me a horrible American but I am just not into politics at ALL. I know I know, I should be informed about all of it, but it just gives me a headache! I agree with some Republican ideas and some Democrat ideas, I am just smack in the middle, and I don't want to choose EITHER! :D

But yes, I am sick of the bickering as well, just b/c you don't agree with someone else's opinion doesn't make their opinion less valid. :rolleyes:

I'm a moderate, and plan to register independent. I am extremely wary of partisan politics, mainly because I've been a reporter for nearly 15 years and I struggle to see issues down the middle. But both major parties irritate me in several ways.

aephi alum 06-25-2003 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dionysus
Is there anyone on this board that is politically moderate...or close to it? Anyone?
Here I am :)

I'm a bit left of center, actually. Registered Democrat, but I've got some problems with the Democratic Party, on both the national and local levels.

valkyrie 06-25-2003 01:16 PM

I am far from politically moderate, but I agree that the arguing and partisan bickering gets old really fast. I don't even see the point of it really, because arguing isn't going to make anyone change her mind. When someone tries to argue with me about politics, it just makes me realize that I am so right and that other person is so wrong. :)

AXO Alum 06-25-2003 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xok85xo
you know..there never would have been a problem if those stupid republicans hadn't hijaked the thread and started talking sh*t :)

teehee

tsk*tsk*tsk....even in here where the ground is "neutral" the isht is thrown around and the nasty remarks are made....but yet who'll be first in line holding the card that says "its not fair - the RepublICAN's are picking on us and being ugly" -- if you preach it, then practice it --

2 snaps and a smooch on the cheeks...hope your toes feel better soon!

xok85xo 06-25-2003 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AXO Alum
tsk*tsk*tsk....even in here where the ground is "neutral" the isht is thrown around and the nasty remarks are made....but yet who'll be first in line holding the card that says "its not fair - the RepublICAN's are picking on us and being ugly" -- if you preach it, then practice it --

2 snaps and a smooch on the cheeks...hope your toes feel better soon!

are you failing to see the irony/sarcasm in the original post? :)

SATX*APhi 06-25-2003 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by valkyrie
When someone tries to argue with me about politics, it just makes me realize that I am so right and that other person is so wrong. :)
LOL!! Sounds like something I would say.

KSigkid 06-25-2003 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xok85xo
you know..there never would have been a problem if those stupid republicans hadn't hijaked the thread and started talking sh*t :)

teehee

Come on - let's not be calling people stupid.

The big problem I have is with the name-calling on BOTH sides. There has been some intelligent debate, and there has been some preschool debate.

We don't have to agree - but let's act like adults.

OUlioness01 06-25-2003 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dionysus
Count me in!

Is there anyone on this board that is politically moderate...or close to it? Anyone?

does conservative libertairan count? i'm conservative but i also don't believe that the government should be able to control people's life and lifestyle chioces. ireally don't fit into any political party based on my views, but if i register i'll register republican.

librasoul22 06-25-2003 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xok85xo
are you failing to see the irony/sarcasm in the original post? :)
LOL, some people are so far up on that high horse they totally miss a joke.

FiReKraCkEr 06-25-2003 02:37 PM

I give up!

"No matter how many times you piss in the wind, all you do is get stinky and wet."

PM_Mama00 06-25-2003 02:39 PM

I'm definately not into politics, but it could be because of all the opponent bashing commercials you see on TV. So obnoxious!

Peaches-n-Cream 06-25-2003 02:47 PM

Everyone must chill. :)

I like politics and I have my opinions, but for the most part I keep them to myself in real life. :)

Have a nice day to all the Independents, Republicans, and Democrats. :)

Sistermadly 06-25-2003 03:04 PM

Color me socially liberal (WAY liberal), yet fiscally moderate. I'm a registered Democrat but voted Green in 2000, and will likely switch to Independent in '04.

astroAPhi 06-25-2003 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dionysus
Count me in!

Is there anyone on this board that is politically moderate...or close to it? Anyone?

I took a quiz once to see if I was "Left" or "Right" and my results were right smack down the middle. Personally I think people that get their panties in a twist about "the other side" are nuts.

I registered Independent because I think both sides are full of crap. I have no clue how the heck I'm going to vote next year lol.

AXO Alum 06-25-2003 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by astroAPhi

I registered Independent because I think both sides are full of crap.

This is the first laugh I've had regarding politics! Now that was pretty funny - seriously! I am not being sarcastic, but will probably stand accused of such! I just like how you took the gloves off and laid it out there :D

DigitalAngel126 06-25-2003 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FAB*SpiceySpice
Well this may make me a horrible American but I am just not into politics at ALL. I know I know, I should be informed about all of it, but it just gives me a headache! I agree with some Republican ideas and some Democrat ideas, I am just smack in the middle, and I don't want to choose EITHER! :D

I vote for you!! :p

I'm the same way...

xo_kathy 06-25-2003 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KDatUTC
"No matter how many times you piss in the wind, all you do is get stinky and wet."
LMAO! That made me laugh out loud! Thanks!

I am not a registered democrat, but my views definitely veer to the left! But I appreciate discussions...

ZTAMiami 06-25-2003 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by astroAPhi
I took a quiz once to see if I was "Left" or "Right" and my results were right smack down the middle. Personally I think people that get their panties in a twist about "the other side" are nuts.

I registered Independent because I think both sides are full of crap. I have no clue how the heck I'm going to vote next year lol.

LOL! I just vote for the lesser of the 2 evils!

astroAPhi 06-25-2003 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AXO Alum
This is the first laugh I've had regarding politics! Now that was pretty funny - seriously! I am not being sarcastic, but will probably stand accused of such! I just like how you took the gloves off and laid it out there :D
I didn't mean to be quite so harsh, but I just think that many political viewpoints are too narrow-minded... or maybe that's the point? It's like you have to adhere to all of their specific viewpoints to align yourselves with them, and I think that's very difficult to do. People aren't from a cookie cutter... each person has unique beliefs and I think that trying to group someone into a party isn't "fair" (I know that's not the right word, but my brain is fried). At least, I don't think that I fit in with either of these groups.

I also think that most people involved with the political parties are pretty corrupt, and I love how their supporters refuse to see that, but the moment the opposing party does the same damn thing, they're all over it like termites on rotting wood. Another reason why I really try not to align myself with one particular group.

Why can't we just have a bunch of people talk about the way they think the country should be run, and then you vote for the person who think will do the best job? Why do we have to have these "alligiences"? Call me a bad sister, but if one of my sisters was running for some sort of Student Gov't office and I thought someone outside of my sorority would do a better job than she would, I'd vote for the other person. After all, they have "authority" over me, and I'd want the person in that office that would do the better job. You would hope that the person who is your sister would do a good job, but part of being sisters is that you respect and understand people's faults. Say my sister really wanted the job but was really unorganized or too busy, and her opponent is perfect for the position. I love her and respect that she's not perfect, but I'm not going to set her up for failure or hurt our Student Gov't.

That might be a little controversial for some people, and I apologize, but I want the best person to do the job.

Rudey 06-25-2003 04:17 PM

Big question
 
Say you're at a Democratic convention or fundraising dinner, how do you bag two chicks so you can have a threesome with them?

-Rudey
--I'd like to get a Lewinsky from Hillary and Chelsea.

lovelyivy84 06-25-2003 04:22 PM

Rudey
see THAT was uncalled for!

NOBODY wanted that visual!!!!!!!!

Oh god I have to go find a picture of the Rock or something.

Peaches-n-Cream 06-25-2003 04:26 PM

Re: Big question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Say you're at a Democratic convention or fundraising dinner, how do you bag two chicks so you can have a threesome with them?

-Rudey
--I'd like to get a Lewinsky from Hillary and Chelsea.

Funny stuff.

AXO Alum 06-25-2003 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by astroAPhi
I didn't mean to be quite so harsh, but I just think that many political viewpoints are too narrow-minded... or maybe that's the point? It's like you have to adhere to all of their specific viewpoints to align yourselves with them, and I think that's very difficult to do. People aren't from a cookie cutter... each person has unique beliefs and I think that trying to group someone into a party isn't "fair" (I know that's not the right word, but my brain is fried). At least, I don't think that I fit in with either of these groups.

I also think that most people involved with the political parties are pretty corrupt, and I love how their supporters refuse to see that, but the moment the opposing party does the same damn thing, they're all over it like termites on rotting wood. Another reason why I really try not to align myself with one particular group.

Why can't we just have a bunch of people talk about the way they think the country should be run, and then you vote for the person who think will do the best job? Why do we have to have these "alligiences"? Call me a bad sister, but if one of my sisters was running for some sort of Student Gov't office and I thought someone outside of my sorority would do a better job than she would, I'd vote for the other person. After all, they have "authority" over me, and I'd want the person in that office that would do the better job. You would hope that the person who is your sister would do a good job, but part of being sisters is that you respect and understand people's faults. Say my sister really wanted the job but was really unorganized or too busy, and her opponent is perfect for the position. I love her and respect that she's not perfect, but I'm not going to set her up for failure or hurt our Student Gov't.

That might be a little controversial for some people, and I apologize, but I want the best person to do the job.

I am 110% agreed with you -- this is the way I *should* have stated myself -- unfortunately, I let the heat get to me, and the sarcasm mixed with heat didn't work out well.

Yes, GC, AXO Alum is offering her APOLOGY for getting too heated up about things that shouldn't matter (meaning, that to us here on GC it shouldn't matter since, as texas*princess pointed out, we aren't in the senate or anything). I mean, yes, my view point does matter to me -- but no, I shouldn't have gotten heated up about it and let it get the best of me to drag it out. I apologize for this.

Rudey 06-25-2003 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AXO Alum
I am 110% agreed with you -- this is the way I *should* have stated myself -- unfortunately, I let the heat get to me, and the sarcasm mixed with heat didn't work out well.

Yes, GC, AXO Alum is offering her APOLOGY for getting too heated up about things that shouldn't matter (meaning, that to us here on GC it shouldn't matter since, as texas*princess pointed out, we aren't in the senate or anything). I mean, yes, my view point does matter to me -- but no, I shouldn't have gotten heated up about it and let it get the best of me to drag it out. I apologize for this.

That's not enough. We took a vote and the only way to really apologize is to post provocative pictures.

-Rudey
--PROVOCATIVE

AXO Alum 06-25-2003 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
That's not enough. We took a vote and the only way to really apologize is to post provocative pictures.

-Rudey
--PROVOCATIVE

Dang, wouldn't ya know it? My web cam is broken!! I will try to get it up and running soon so I can be forgiven - LOL! You are so not right, Rudey -- but too funny :D

sugar and spice 06-25-2003 04:44 PM

I am!

I'm in the middle of the Democrat thread right now and getting annoyed . . . and I'm sure the Republican thread will be no better. I was interested in getting some debate going over the Democrats' chances, what they have to do to overcome Bush, which ones people like and which they don't. Instead, all it is is people ripping on each other's political beliefs. What is it about politics that demotes people to 12-year-olds in terms of maturity?

justamom 06-25-2003 06:04 PM

I know I come off as a big Republican, but I feel the way most of you do. Truth be told I lean to the middle. I think that's what is troubling for most Americans. Most of us feel WE aren't really represented. Just shadows of our individual beliefs. Like trying to get a bill passed and all of a sudden, all this PORK gets tacked on. I believe the Dems have a very difficult time with this issue-finding the middle ground- because that's what it will take. By the same token-the Reps MUST get this economy back in line. For the moment, the support is behind Georgie Boy. I didn't say it was behind the Party. I really think the jury will be out till we get closer to election. AlphaSigOU-I share your philosophy-on MANY issues- not just this one.

librasoul22 06-25-2003 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by justamom
I know I come off as a big Republican, but I feel the way most of you do. Truth be told I lean to the middle. I think that's what is troubling for most Americans. Most of us feel WE aren't really represented. Just shadows of our individual beliefs. Like trying to get a bill passed and all of a sudden, all this PORK gets tacked on. I believe the Dems have a very difficult time with this issue-finding the middle ground- because that's what it will take. By the same token-the Reps MUST get this economy back in line. For the moment, the support is behind Georgie Boy. I didn't say it was behind the Party. I really think the jury will be out till we get closer to election. AlphaSigOU-I share your philosophy-on MANY issues- not just this one.
Whatev, JAM!! You KNOW you are a closeted liberal! ;)

btw, Rudey, the provocative thing was some funny ish.

AXO Alum, it takes a lot to admit you were wrong and apologize..I, for one, appreciate that.

enlightenment06 06-25-2003 08:48 PM

Whether you're into politics or not everyone should tune into C-SPAN at least once or twice a week and see what our lawmakers are doing. C-SPAN broadcasts the House and Senate live and you'll see the real deal.

KSigkid 06-25-2003 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by enlightenment06
Whether you're into politics or not everyone should tune into C-SPAN at least once or twice a week and see what our lawmakers are doing. C-SPAN broadcasts the House and Senate live and you'll see the real deal.
Excellent point - for most, it's as close to Congressional proceedings as we'll get. I'm not sure how edited it is, but it gives you an idea on how some lawmakers decide issues that impact our lives.

Hootie 06-25-2003 10:17 PM

My father always warned me about two things you should never discuss with people: Religion and Politics because you'll never see eye-to-eye or change their oppinions. Proved to be pretty smart so generally I don't discuss either to length. But I will say this much, I'm Republican and I voted for BUSH and I'm darn proud of him and our troops!

AXO Alum 06-26-2003 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by librasoul22
Whatev, JAM!! You KNOW you are a closeted liberal! ;)

btw, Rudey, the provocative thing was some funny ish.

AXO Alum, it takes a lot to admit you were wrong and apologize..I, for one, appreciate that.

Yeah, well, it would take A LOT for me to post some provocative pictures - LOL!

I appreciate you appreciating that -- okay, that's a tongue twister. I just wish that many of us would have settled down enough to allow each of us to clarify our posts a little better (as heat usually means rush which leads to misunderstanding). I still stand by my opinions and viewpoints, but I should have let things calm down a little more. It really bothers me that I have been called names personally (as in people posting using me as the target specifically), because I am a good person and not disgusting, etc. I would never have spoken a bad word against our country - I love living here too much! :)

As such, I am off to meet my brother's ship which is returning today! I know that many people will be rejoicing that I am away from GC even for just 4 days (no, you may not take up donations to keep me on a permanent vacation ;) ), but hopefully this will give everyone time to step back from this whole debacle and return to our normally happy GC selves! (Oh, and if you are PM'ing me - I won't have access to a computer, so feel free to fill the box up ;) )

enlightenment06 06-26-2003 09:28 AM

Voting along parties lines is wack. People should vote for those they feel will have the most positive effect on everyone (that is, of course, the idea behind a republic). I believe it was the orignial GW who warned that we should not get entangled in political parties.

Since our current political system is based off political parties anyway, people should at least examine all their options. I tried to be Republican but things didn't work out, lol, so now I'm just independent (after wavering between Greens and Democrats). Bush sucks but big up to John McCain, that's one Repub I have a lot of respect for.


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