Have you ever heard another sorority be catty about yours?
 

I was reading the threads about people wearing letters and it reminded me of something.

One night I went to a bar with some of my sisters to hear a Dave Matthews coverband. The guy who I was dancing with all night turned out to be the singer's roomate, so I stayed and chatted for a while after the show was over and everyone was leaving. I was sitting in a chair, and infront of me sitting on the stage were a few girls from another sorority. Well, one of the band members pulled off his shirt because he was hot, and he had on a DG party shirt from LSU on as an under shirt. One of the girls from another sorority was like ew - DG?!?!! Joking around, but still she had no clue who I was. The guy was like uhm - would you be happy if I took it off?

When she said that I wanted to slap her, but instead I asked her what was wrong with DG? She was like why do you want to know? And I said because I am a DG. Her expression was priceless. Her and her sisters did a 180 all of the sudden and started saying "Oh we love DG, we were just kidding around!" Ah, I just smiled and said whatever. The guy was like hm - I think I like her better (referring to me, because I am NICE and not catty) so I'll sport her letters thanks! I was like HA!

It's pretty dumb they were like that seeing as how all the sororities live together. We are both in our school's top sororities, so I guess she just wanted to look all snotty. I don't know.

Has this happened to anyone else?

In one word...yes.

The remarks usually came in the form of....guy says that my house was the nicest. Girl would say, "yeah, but (insert childish comment about members' weight)." :rolleyes:

My fav quote is applicable..."Beauty fades, but dumb is forever."

I definitely do not think that catty = sorority girl personality trait. Every group has a few bad apples and when they say things, they are just being jealous.

Yes, but I agree with MoxieGrrl, they're just jealous.

I hear that...the green eyed moster rears its ugly head ALOT on my campus.
I think cattiness is just a girl trait, in general. Does it ever seem to anyone else that, in general, the more the girls in the room, the great the potential for cattiness.(please note the phrase "IN GENERAL").

Yeah, I think so. Almost every lady I know has said something catty at some point about someone or something. Men do it, too, but it's not as in-your-face.

Some girl said something shall we say unflattering about my sorority. She was catty, snotty, etc. She saw me wearing my letters. I looked at her and starting laughing. She didn't know what to do. I was sleep deprived and laughing at her in her snotty little face.

That happens all the time, sweetie, so don't fret about it. Girls never bother being catty about another sorority unless they're threatened or intimidated. Consider it a compliment ;)

Well, one of the band members pulled off his shirt because he was hot, and he had on a DG party shirt from LSU on as an under shirt. I could ALMOST think he got that shirt from my daughter and her group of friends within DG! She wants to get into band promotions and knows a number of groups (ESPECIALLY cover bands) that play around BR! Plus, she has connections to bands up to D.C.

There is a certain sorority at LSU (I was so angry I started a thread) that in the past 2 years has been going head to head with DG for some top PNMs. They actually talked trash DURING RUSH! The NMs told the DGs ALL about it.

For the most part, jibes and jokes are a part of the territory. It's a mark of competition. There's an old truism that says when people STOP talking about you, you're in trouble.

Then, you have that segment of people who are willfully mean and cruel. They were cruel in HS, they were bullies on the playground and they probably "bit the tit" of their own mother!
Nothing can change them, so you have to outsmart them. At the very least, maybe you taught them/her a good lesson-think twice before your open your yap! Somehow, I doubt that a person THAT tacky is a "fast learner".

When you are secure and possess something enviable, you will always be a target of those who feel threatened or are less equipped to handle the heat in an honest fashion.
Cest La Vie...

Some girls just have nothing better to do, you know?:rolleyes:

Right on, DigitalAngel.

Maybe she was JUST joking.....

You are right, she could have been - but there was something about the way she said it and then when I asked her what was wrong with DG she gave me daggers for a stare.

I am friends with a lot of people in her sorority, and I really like them, I just didn't like the comment she made or the look she gave me. I just thought it was kind of tacky. I wasn't really posting this to say OMG look what happened, I was just curious if other people have been in similiar situations.

Hm, maybe so! Ask her if she knows anyone in the Dave Matthews Coverband named Grey Street. They go to LSU - so I am sure they play Baton Rouge a lot.

That would be kinda neat. It's a small world : )

And your daughter is a DG at LSU? I am going to PM you! I've always wanted to know about their chapter!!!

Wait, you were insulted because one group did something nice for another group???? How on earth is that insulting your group?

Doing that for the fraternity was actually a great tactic to help improve their overall image and their reputation among fraternities. It had nothing to do with your group. Maybe they were tired of this so called "milk and cookies" image and are trying to get in better with the fraternities. It was also just a NICE thing to do. I wish more groups would do stuff like that.

Sorry, just don't see how a good deed can be an insult.

No wonder people don't do nice things for other people anymore.....

I disagree. I think cattiness is an insecure girl's trait. If you're secure in your own self-worth, then you don't have any reason to be catty toward anyone else.

And if you're being hated on - shake the haters off! ;)

cookies are great
 

My chapter really enjoys when other sororities come to our meetings and sing us songs, much more than treats. But still, ice cream and cookies are always welcome.:cool:

Dah, maybe they had a better Idea?

PM_Mama, I kind of find your post disgusting with all Of the "S**T".:(

Therre is enuff infighthing that goes on so why dont ALL get head out of ASS!:eek:

This is what gets us all in trouble! Get It?:confused:

Well it was insulting b/c the group was purposefully mean to us in more ways than one. I just suppose you'll have to take my word on it. I honestly don't think their rep was bad among the frats. Sorry for offending with my post...

There are a few girls who talk trash in every chapter up here (including my own), although I've never heard any about my sorority. The Greek system up here has historically not been very "Panhellenic" and so there is some rivalry between the groups. However, the younger girls coming into the system are generally less likely to be catty about other groups (at least in my sorority) and I hope this is a trend that sticks. I really hate hearing one sorority talk bad about another, no matter which sorority is on the receiving end. I can think of something bad about every sorority (including my own) and something good about every sorority (including our "rivals"), but I'd rather focus on the good.

That's so true about your system...I have heard so much trash talk from girls in it, and it's always about another sorority I have friends in!

Our system is horribly catty. One of the locals accused us of "stealing" SigEp from them. :rolleyes: It got to the point where, when I was still pledging, I was over at the SigEp house WITH MY BOYFRIEND and was asked to leave "because Gamma Phis aren't welcome here" by one of their pledges. Probably not. :p It got into a big competition with the organizational webpages...The other local says founded in 1991 (or whenever) but the one that tried to kick me out said "oldest sorority founded on this campus" or some BS like that to sound older than us. Our description now says "Founded as a local sorority in 1867, one year after the university founded, we were selected to become a Gamma Phi Beta chapter in 1969." I am not going to miss that isht at all..

Marquette seems to be relatively Panhellenic, although a girl in one house didn't believe me that Gamma Phi Beta was NPC. I asked her what sorority the Greek advisor was in (the GA is my chapter sister) and once she found out, instead of apologizing, she said "Oh, well, whatever, your chapter here closed." Yeah, I know, otherwise I would have affiliated.

That is one of the reasons that I think the younger girls are less likely to talk trash -- they all have friends in other chapters! I think that almost everybody in my pledge class had a friend who was a Theta or a Kappa or a Chi O or an AEPhi or in another sorority . . . so we knew that the trash talking wasn't true and because of that, we were less likely to do it. The older girls, for whatever reason, seemed more isolated within the system and this increased the rivalry.

Either way, it makes me uncomfortable to hear the girls talk bad about other sororities.

Wisconsin's sort of going through a "revival" of its Greek system right now (getting a second Greek advisor, working on a new risk management program, working on new philanthropy requirements) and I think that Greek unity is increasing a little bit, which would be great.

meridionaleDG, I emailed her,she's in GA for the summer and I RARELY get to talk to her due to her job.

Got your e-mail and will send a "thoughtful" response. That takes me time at one sitting!

This just reminded me of somehting from Rush two years ago.....

The day after Bid Day, we were hanging out with our new members around the house. We were just chatting about Rush and one girl was like, "XYZ was so mean. I just hated them."
XYZ lives across the street from us and we don't have very good relations w/them.
I go, "Why? What happened"
"Well,"she said, "they asked me what I liked about Rush, and then out of nowhere they said that the house across the street plants fake flowers in front of their house b/c they can't afford real ones."

Does that even make any sense???? We can't afford real flowers so we spend $$$$$ on expensive fake ones to plant?? WTF???? And why in the hell would you say something like that during Rush???? bitches......

Hahahahahah!!!! If they would have said that to me I would have probably said, "Wow, thanks for sharing that, when I am trying to think of which sorority I would rather join the fake flowers will definitly come into mind!"

Y'all should create some sappy thing to tell them - "Like true sisterhood, our flowers will never die!" Then they can vomit all over themselves!! ;)

That's too cute :)

Girls are catty, they always will be :) As someone else said, it's only because they want what they don't have and they're jealous, so take it as a compliment. Besides, putting down one group probably makes them feel as if they aren't at the bottom.

MeridionaleDG-

I HEAR YOU! I am a new member in Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Inc., and I can't begin to tell you how many people have been like EWWWW why did you go Zeta? When I tell people that I'm in a sorority, the first 2 things that come out of their mouth are: Are you an AKA or a Delta. When I tell them that I'm a Zeta, they look at me like I just sprouted horns! Then I just smile...

If you hadn't said anything about what org you were in, those girls would have probably kept trashing your org, and personally, I feel that when someone trashes your org, they are trashing you, so I don't blame you in feeling some kind of way about their reaction.

First, soror, let me congratulate you on reaching Zetadom!

As a piggyback to your post, do you remember a book that came out a few years ago called "The BAP's Handbook" or something like that? Anyhow, the book said more or less that for a true BAP, the only way to go was AKA or DST. Let me tell you, our sorors and our SGRho sistahfriends flooded the authors' guestbook with comments! They ended up posting an apology ...

The kicker was that only one or two of the authors in a sorority at all!

*BTW, BAP is an acronym for Black American Princess.

hee hee, I did not know of this book, so I looked it up on Amazon..here it is:
"The Bap Handbook: The Official Guide to the Black American Princess - by Kalyn Johnson (Editor), Tracey Lewis, Karla Lightfoot, Ginger Wilson (Illustrator)"

I like the cover actually....but then I like PINK!!

We actually have a harder time with the guys instead of the girls. According to them:

Alpha Phi = fat
XYZ = b****ches
ABC (new local) = doesn't matter anyway, because they're not going to last.

One fraternity in particular got up and portrayed this and said these things in their Greek Week skit. And they wonder why we don't speak to them. :rolleyes:

we generally have the highest GPA out of all the sororities and during rush we had other chapters telling the new members all we do is study, that we are the smart sorority, which isn't a bad reputation to have but it really turned some girls off. Plus chapters should be focusing on their own chapter not bad mouthing others during rush

I won't be popular for saying this, but women talking trash about other women is the "not so nice" part of our human nature, I am afraid. I am not saying that it's "right", it just *is*.
http://www.oprah.com/tows/pastshows/...20020424.jhtml
They discussed this on Oprah a while ago, and was very interesting. "Odd Girl Out" by Rachel Simmons was the book that addressed this.

Sela Ward even spoke of her experiences:
http://www.oprah.com/tows/pastshows/...020515_b.jhtml

No, I completely agree with you. Human nature isn't pretty. I think we'd have to be kidding ourselves to say that it doesn't happen on every campus and even within our own chapters.

I just think the difference is whether or not you can keep a stupid comment to yourself, or whether you perpetuate cruel stereotypes. If you think that one chapter is full of snotty girls, fine, that's your own perogative. But don't go telling everyone on campus how ABC is full of snobs, etc. It's called tact.

Oh man..we're not even a recognized sorority yet and we get trashed quite frequently!

Case in point...

I was sitting in class next to some girls from another sorority well, on my desk on of my girls and scribbled our letters on the top. I moved my book in such a way that it was visible to them by accident. Well, one of them was sitting behind me and said, "Oh my gawd, they are so stupid." and rolled her eyes. I giggled and told her I was apart of it and was actually the head of it, lol!! Once again, her expression was priceless!

Too true, too true! All you have to do is think about a cut session and see the uglier side of human nature...

I just think that there is a line that should not be crossed, (YES THERE IS A THREAD ON THIS!!!:p) rush/recruitment is one of those times that stiff penalties should be leveled. Also-it's one thing to take a jab at your competition it's quite another to kick someone when they are down.

I wonder, AND I REALLY MEAN THIS, I wonder how many of the top tier sororities on any given campus DON'T hold the rep of being snotty AND in actuality ARE snotty? (stay with me here) Now if they ARE snots, why would they attract the All-American girl? Wouldn't they perpetuate the image by who the attract and keep? If there is any truth to the above statement, then one could think that people WANT to associate with snots and that is a desirable description. Or, do the masses call any group ranked "above" them- for lack of a better term- snots???

yes i have, my best friend was told by a member of another chapter that she and the rest of my chapter were all fat. i told the girl exactly what i thought about it, and all the guys at the party we were both at overheard backed me up, even though her little brother was a member of that particular chapter. i'm not saying that my chapter doesn't sometimes act catty, but as far as i know a member of my chapter has never directly said something about another chapter to a member of that chapter.

You know what's almost as bad as hearing another group rip on your sorority? Being the president of your sorority & receiving a call from the pledge trainer of the other sorority on campus, telling you that several of her pledges heard some of your pledges singing a song in the Greek store near campus that was very disparaging of them (and they had ended up calling their pledge trainer in tears). She wouldn't give me any names (although I know she knew all of our pledges b/c she would have known them from rush), but still, I have never been so angry at my sisters for (a) being stupid enough to teach those songs to new members (btw, I hate those songs, no matter who is singing them) and (b) for being so classless as to actually sing them in a public place where they would absolutely be heard by members of other organizations!

The funny thing is, that we were usually the butt of their rude/unflattering comments, so it was very hard for me to not say "see how it feels?" The actives who taught the song to the pledges were disciplined, and the entire pledge class was counseled to watch the way they portray the group/treat others as you would like to be treated...all of them responded that they had heard similar things from the other group & thought it was fair game.made me feel horrible. Of course, of all the times I had heard such things from the other group's members, it had never occurred to me to call their president...after that incident, I wondered why they should expect us to treat them any differently than they treated us? Fortunately, we didn't have any more incidents like that while I was there (although the other group still made publicly disparaging comments about us).

Women can definitely be beeyatchs.

If you're going to make catty comments about other sororities, to me the ONLY even remotely acceptable place to do it is to your sisters where there is NO chance of being overheard by anyone else. I'd prefer not to hear it at all, but if you're going to do it anyway, some places are better than others. It's just tacky to make comments like that in a place where you could be overheard by a member of the sorority in question, or by a non-Greek (in which case, congratulations! you've just perpetuated the stereotype that sorority girls are b*tchy!). And I can't even imagine these sororities talking trash during rush! Even in my overly catty Greek system, that wouldn't be acceptable.