DayCare Owner Breastfed SOMEONE ELSE'S BABY
 

Daycare owner charged with breast-feeding someone else's baby
06/03/2003

Associated Press


STIGLER, Okla. - A woman was charged with breast-feeding someone else's baby at a daycare center without the parents' knowledge. KNOWLEDGE or not, that would have been one breastless woman when I finished with her.:mad:

Prosecutors charged Shannon Denney, 32, with outraging public decency and public morals, punishable by up to a year in jail and a $500 fine.

Denney, whose own child attended the daycare center, apparently decided to help out one day in late November or early December by breast-feeding a 3-month-old girl, authorities said.

"The baby was crying and they were feeding it a bottle and that didn't stop it," prosecutor Ron Boyer said.

The mother found out months later when a rumor circulated around the town of 2,500, he said.

"It got back to the mother," Boyer said. "The mother confronted the woman and asked her about it and she admitted that it happened."

After the alleged incident, Denney bought the daycare center, but she has since closed it. She did not immediately return a call Tuesday.

The state Department of Human Services, which licenses daycare centers, has no policy on breast-feeding someone else's child. I do -- don't breast feed mine.:mad:

"It's a commonsense sort of thing," department spokesman George Johnson said. "It's something that today you don't even think about."

Viruses can be transmitted through breast milk.



My Ced the Entertainer voice: I wish a mofo WOULD!!!

sorry to crash your boards... but this reminds me of the movie The Hand that Rocks the Cradle. Didn't Rebecca DeMorney start breast feeding the baby to try to turn it against the mother and steal the husband?

You're not crashing. :)

Yeah she did do that. Sick heffa. She was twisted too.

you're NOT crashing. :)

everyone is welcome to post/chat/mingle/network, etc.

just as long as you don't act up. ;)

Like a Nazi ;)

Thanks guys! I promise not to act up! :D

an anecdote
 

Nursing another child is not that unusual. There were wet nurses until a few years ago. My mother's best friend from nursing school gave birth to a very sick baby who needed emergency surgery when he was born. He needed to be fed after surgery, but his mother couldn't so my mother offered to nurse him. She was still nursing my sister at the time. The hospital decided to use formula instead so it never happened. My mother's friend to this day remembers my mother's offer as the nicest thing that anyone has ever done for her. I guess it's a generational thing. My sister and I thought that was gross, but my mother and her friend thought that it was perfectly normal.

The problem is this woman didn't get the mother's consent. I don't know if there is anything wrong with this woman or not, but she shouldn't have nursed the baby without the permission of the mother.

The baby is now a healthy (and handsome) young man. ;)

Cream, I see your point and I agree. As long as there is consent, it is all to the good, but there was no consent here.


There were wet nurses back in slavery too. My kids always tripped out when I explained this phenomenon to them.

Dang, this type of thing makes you really think. Are all women's milk the same????? I mean, does it have DNA in it or something (something only the mother and child would have)? Or is it just plain old human milk?

Please remember, no question is stupid. Don't be tryin' to clown me on this. I just wanna know. :o :p

I have been a daycare Director for over 10 years.I have been approached by parents for many strange reasons,including one who asked if we would post bail for her.This is the craziest thing I have ever heard.I can't even imagine how I would react if a parent came and told me that she had just breast fed someone elses baby in my facility.I think they would probably be asked not to come back at the very least.

It's ok. I've been doing a ton of reading since I'm due in September and any plain old human milk is better for a baby than formula. Of course if the woman from who the breast milk comes from is sick then she could pass this on to the baby. There are actually breastmilk banks that you can donate extra breastmilk to! Of course a woman breastfeeding a child not their own does sound weird but it might be our western thought.:)

Im sorry, but I would be outraged! No one feeds my lil Jaquan Rockehead but his MAMA! :mad: :mad: :mad:

I pray that their is not a day that comes where (when I do have kids) that something happens and I cannot give him my milk temporarily for any reason. If that is so, he will have to be taken to a doctor and put on formula because I don't want ANYONE else feeding my bookieboo, but me.

I took a look in the Kansas Licensing manual and indeed there are not any rules or regulations regarding breastfeeding someone elses child.Hopefully after this,they will put something in writing.I guess common sense really isn't that common.

The biggest issue I see in this is the lack of consent from the mother (as opposed to the woman acting as a wet nurse.) To have someone breast feed your baby and you don't know if they are a coffee drinker, chocolate eater, alcohol consumer, etc. is plain wrong. Not to mention not knowing if the woman had any communicable diseases, even a cold.

When people consent to a wet nurse they, I'm sure, are informed of all these things. And the wet nurse is informed as to whether the child has any allergies to things like chocolate, etc. It sounds like the daycare provider did not act out of malice but just plain ignorance.

as soon as i saw the title of the thread, i thought 'hand that rocks the cradle'

Re: DayCare Owner Breastfed SOMEONE ELSE'S BABY
 

That pretty much sums it up! :mad:

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Ya damn skippy! :mad: :mad:

I believe this also happened in a hospital. The nurse brought the wrong baby to a mommy. She breastfed her and the mistake wasn't discovered until later that day or the next day.

in the spirit of "there are no dumb questions"
 

Does a wet nurse always have to be someone who just reproduced? Wouldn't she be shorting her own child on its milk supply? Or are there some women out there whose lunch counter is always open, so to speak?

I remember reading about wet nurses in King Arthur books and was just WTF about the whole concept.

I beleive wet nurses were women who had just weaned their children, had given birth to a stillborn, or whose children had died. In order to keep producing breastmilk you have to keep stimulating the breast. It takes a couple of weeks for your supply to totally dry out.

Re: an anecdote
 

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. My grandmother and great aunts talk about how women would breast feed children other than their own back in the day. Crimsontide gave a good example about the slavery days... basically black women who had recently given birth would be expected to breast feed their white charges.... But the point is times have changed and there is more to worry about than there was back in the day.

I know some babies will not take formula and I don't think I would have a problem with one of my sisters or cousins breast feeding my child.

IIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!
And she is still alive?!?!?

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How in the hell you not gonna know you're own baby???? See that's why I went to a hospital with romming in. I'm not having none of that.

But just like in the Hand that Rocks the Cradle, if you pump your breast, milk will produce whether you're pregnant or not. You could have NEVER given birth or been pregnant, and still pump and make milk (I was shocked at this actually) The pumping
stimulates the milk ducts to start reproducing. And I heard about thebreastmilk bank. That just seems so weird to me for some reason. But if you think about it, we all drink cow breast milk...

But I will NEVER have somebody else nurse my baby. If I can't then she'll get a bottle, unfortunately. I just can't fathom letting someone else nursing my baby. Its too personal.

Breast Milk Banks
 

I looked into the whole Breast Bank thing and it seems that the idea of donating milk is not that uncommon. Here is a site that I found.

http://www.dietitian.com/milkbank.html

Mothers' Milk Bank
Needs Your Milk


There is a shortage of donated breast milk nationwide and the human milk banks need your donations.

Premature or sick babies and children, whose mothers are not able to produce their own milk, many times due to illness, medication, adoption or foster care need your breast milk. Mothers who are healthy and breast feeding may be able to donate to a milk bank.

Your breast milk can be pumped, frozen and stored at home until picked up or delivered by you to a milk bank. If you want to ship milk to a bank, the containers for shipping and cost of shipping are provided by the milk bank. There are 6 milk banks listed below that belong to the Human Milk Banking Association of North America. A donor milk bank is a service established for the purpose of collecting, screening, processing, and distributing donated human milk to meet specific medical needs of individuals for whom it is prescribed.

If you don't live close to one of these milk banks, please contact your local hospital to find a milk bank in your area. You won't get any money for donating your breast milk, but you will get the warm feeling of helping a newborn or mom with your milk.


Reasons for donating breast milk:

You have enough breast milk for your baby and extra. The amount of breast milk produced is dependent on demand so if you start pumping extra milk to donate, your body will respond by producing more breast milk. You can pump between your baby's feedings and freeze the breast milk to donate. Remember to increase your intake of fluids. Most babies drink about 1 quart of breast milk a day and can empty a breast in about 15 minutes.

You are a healthy woman whose child is less than 1 year of age and you don't drink alcohol, smoke, use over the counter medications or prescriptions, herbal or illegal drugs or vitamin supplements in excess of 100% of the RDA. A few medications are acceptable, including a multi-vitamin, low-dose progestin, birth control pills, insulin, and thyroid replacement. A lot of chemicals pass through breast milk and premies or sick babies have enough to handle.

Your doctor gives you the go ahead to donate your breast milk. You'll need to go through a health screening and blood test at the milk bank like you do at the blood bank, but if you are healthy and able to donate, milk banks need your breast milk. Blood testing may include testing for German measles, syphilis, hepatitis B and C, HIV 1 & 2, and HTLV. All testing is done by the milk bank at no cost to the donor.

You want to lose weight for a good cause. The metabolic rate for a breast feeding woman is about 2300 calories a day compared to 1500 calories a day for a non-pregnant, non-breast feeding woman. Milk banks do not accept breast milk from women who induce lactation to lose weight.

Your baby is premature and you are pumping to keep up your milk supply until your baby comes home from the hospital. If your baby will not need all of the milk you have stored once he or she is fully breast feeding, your excess milk could help save a life.

You are pumping your milk anyway for times that you are away from your baby. You are employed outside your home and pump breast milk at work to feed your baby at day care or later at home. It's hard to judge just how much your baby will drink and you find you have excess breast milk stored. Donate your excess breast milk.
Your milk will be pasteurized by the milk bank so that viruses are killed, but almost all of the passive immunity in breast milk will remain. Please contact your local milk bank listed below or your local hospital to find a milk bank near you.

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When it was time for me to nurse, my hospital did not hand my baby to me until they matched our ID numbers. This number was on my ID bracelet, his ID bracelet, his umbiblical stump and my husbands ID bracelet. We all had the same 7 digit number. Plus that first day I had my baby ALL day and studied my boo so that would NEVER happen. I don't see how you don't recognize your own baby either....even after a few hours I knew my Christopher.

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