Annoyed
 

So I'm getting really annoyed at some of the assumptions people make about me because I'm female.

- We're putting in central air in our house. A guy came by this morning to do an estimate. He quoted me a ballpark figure and then said, "That includes electrical. We can take a few hundred dollars off that if, say, your husband were to do the electrical." It never crossed his mind that a woman could do that sort of work... and my degree is in electrical engineering!!!

- Everyone seems to be expecting me to drop everything and have a baby - especially now that I'm out of work again. Someone actually started a rumor at my temple that I was pregnant. This is really hurtful to me because I've put on a few pounds over the past few months... I'm trying to get rid of them, but comments like "Congratulations! When are you due?" aren't helping.

- And then there's the classic: I apply for a job. My name is unmistakably female, and the dates on my resume clearly indicate that I am young. If (IF) I'm called in for an interview, the interviewer sees my wedding ring. Right away, the assumption is that I will be working just long enough to save up some money, take advantage of their health insurance and short-term disability programs to have a baby on the company's dime, then quit and be a SAHM... so why should they waste their money hiring and training me? So I don't get the job... whereas a man would have no problem.

It's like popping out a couple of rugrats, wiping their bottoms, making sure they do well in school and don't watch too much TV, etc. is supposed to be the be-all and end-all of my existence and the limit of my capabilities.

GRRRRRRRR :mad:

(I feel better now... :) )

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just so you, it is illegal for the interviewer to ask you questions regarding marriage, if you plan on starting a family, etc.. i had a professor at school and he made it very clear that if you are ever asked questions in an interview about that or they base their decision on what you've mentioned above than you should report it....

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Yes, it's illegal for them to ask, but if they see a young woman wearing a wedding ring, they can put two and two together.

What about this one?

"SMILE!"-I never heard anyone tell a GUY that. Why should I walk around w/ an ear to ear grin when I don't feel like it? :rolleyes:

I agree with the young and female part....only my situation is totally different from yours. At my job, there is a man in his late 30's early 40's who works on the shift after ours. Everytime I have to talk to him about work, he acts like I know nothing about Chemistry and what this job entails. He feels this way simply because I am 23 and female. So then there was this one time when he couldn't get something to work....Let me tell you how excited he was when I walked over this his work, examined it, and fixed the entire problem! Needless to say, he hates me now and tries to sabotage my work! :o

JUST BECAUSE I AM FEMALE AND 23 YEARS OLD, DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T HAVE A BRAIN! I HAVE A BRAIN, AND I PROBABLY KNOW MORE ABOUT THE $HIT THAN YOU DO!




Wow, that felt really good. Great thread topic ;)

I worked with this one man, and one day he asked me to help him do some filing. I wasn't busy at the time and part of my job was to help out when it was needed. So I said sure. I spent the day doing his filing and I was done. Well I had other more pressing work that needed to be done, but he started assuming that I was his personal secretary (no just because I have a vagina does not make me a secretary). So I said to him that I would help him when I had some time. He kept hounding me to do his filing so one day I snapped. I yelled at him. I said look I can't do your filing right now because I have more important work to do, you have enough time to harrass me about it, so you have enough time to do it yourself. If not you'll have to wait till I am free. Well he was quite shocked that I had told him no. He's the type of man that usually is around women that don't stand up for them selves. He never had a woman put him in his place before. I was quite proud, and he never bothered me again. I am a smart woman, so don't assume because I am young and female that I can't do anything except your filing!

hehehe

If someone is looking a little down, I always ask them if things are OK and to smile (regardless of gender). I'm generally a very happy person and used to say things like "Smile, it's MONDAY!"

Of course that was before I started working :p

During my internship last summer, my manager made it clear that my job duties would not have anything "administrative" in them. He said that I was working there to learn about marketing...not about being a secretary. He kept to that and was a great boss. Well, he went out of town for a few days and this jerk from the Hamilton, Ontario office came to the Orlando office for a few days. My boss gave this jerk permission to use his cubicle which was located adjacent to mine. The jerk assumed that just because I was female and young that I was a secretary. I walked into the office on Monday morning and the jerk walked over to me, without even introducing himself, and handed over some papers and told me to go fax them. I didn't want to get on his bad side since he was obviously a friend of my boss. After I faxed his papers, he called out to me, "I'm going to need some coffee too." Are you kidding me??? I told the guy that I was a marketing intern and not his servant. I immediately called my boss and told him what was going on. Luckily, my boss called the guy and told him that if something needed to be faxed, he's physically able to do it himself.

I went on an interview a few weeks ago for an admin position. I figured I take it just to get my foot in the door at the company in hopes of moving up to better positions. The guy I'd be working for was another jerk. He told me part of my job duties would be "getting his dry cleaning, filling his car with gas, doing his grocery shopping, serving appetizers at company parties, and cleaning his dishes after his lunch". I told him that I wasn't right for the position because I wouldn't do those job duties; I then walked out on the interview. The worst part is that I know if I was a man interviewing with this jerk, he would never have made those comments.

I would have told those guys that I am not their personal bitch and to kiss my ass!! I barely have to do any of that stuff for myself...why would I want to do it for them?

Yeah, I hear all the time, "Are you a secretary?" No, no, no!! Nothing against being a secretary, but that is not the only job a woman can do! It isn't 1950 folks!

Heh, I wish my boss would get the hint about the administrative duties. He will walk all the way down the hall to my office and tell me to fax something.....when he passes the fax machine on the way to my office! :mad:

Go on with your bad selves!! I love hearing about women sticking up for themselves, but I think it sucks that these cavemen are running rampant in our society.

Aephi alum, I feel your pain, too. When I was in law school it was common practice among the married or engaged women to refrain from wearing rings to job interviews. That it's even an issue sucks beyond belief, but if people are going to make assumptions, you have to do what's best for you.

My friends did the same thing in law school. It is horrible, but sometimes it is the only way to get past the male interviewers.

Yes, while the above is a stinker, "ya gotta do what ya gotta do".
This kind of reminds me of the LSU Rush and the "should I wear my nose piercing?" thread....

I'm a young, recent college graduate, but I own my own business, which is actually quite sucessful. A guy asked me the other day what my degree was in, so I told him I have a dual degree in History and Political Science. The jerk got this look on his face and asked me if I'd always wanted to be a secretary. I could have totally clocked him right there. I promptly informed him that I was self-employed.

I get annoyed by the people I work with at times. I work in a high school. I'm sure all of you remember all the club, organization and class activities from your high school years.

Well, sometimes it seems as though the other members of the faculty think that their time outside of school is more valuable than mine because they are married and have kids. Just because I am young, unmarried and childless does not mean I have to be in charge of every blooming thing that comes down the pike. I'm sorry, I have a life, too. Though it may not involve a husband and kids, it does count!

Ladies,

I need a well qualified intern for this summer to cook and clean for me. I only look at girls with great looks who went to top 10 schools (top 25 if you're really something to look at).

-Rudey
--It's unpaid

where should i send my resume to?


oh wait... i can't cook.... :p

Oooh, can I rant too?

1) Don't tell me about children "It's different when they're your own." I don't want kids. KappaStarboy doesn't want kids. Why is it okay to not want everything else in the world, but God forbid I should say that I have no desire to have children?

I now refer you to The Misanthropic Bitch.


2) Just because I am a librarian, that does not mean I've read every book ever published. And I know I look like I'm about eighteen (I'm 26), but the fact that I moisturize and work out does not mean that you know how to do my job.

Open letter to parents: Don't do your children's homework for them. The way the parents in the community I serve act, you'd think all their kids were blind in one eye and missing an arm.

Am too tired to rant anymore.

I wear scrubs to work and sometimes i go to a restaurant on my way home to pick up food or to the grocery store-I always get asked -are you a nurse or what type of nurse are you-ARGGGGG Just b/c I am a female do not assume I am a nurse, females can be Drs. too!!!!!

I also hate it when male clients think they can run all over you just b/c you are a female. There have been some instances where male clients would only talk to or look at the male technicians-nevermind that the vet. (most of the vets that work here are females)is the one they need to be paying attention to.

I'm taking this Social Science Women's Studies course this summer. We just completed our first test and it covered discrimination in the work place against females.

Did you know that there are places that are far worse off than we? For instance in Mexico in some of the factories they will not hire pregnant women or women intending on having children (even administer pregnancy tests) because it's Mexican law to pay a woman maternity leave. Also since some pregnant women cannot fulfill all duties of their work in factories or labor lines, they will be "wasting pay" that could have gone to someone else.
So in a sense they (these companies) are discriminating on a woman's reproductive rights.

But as far as all your arguements (ladies), I can completely relate and understand. My eyes have REALLY been opened since starting this course. I had an argument with my friend/coworker about how women are still paid less for the same work. She complained that you have to look at all the statistics...that you have to compare salary to salary know what their vacation/time off packages include etc. She missed the point. Women are still underpaid or discriminated against.

It is TRUE that many employers assume that a woman getting pregnant may not come back to work or be able to fulfill her job duties.

If I find any more interesting tid bits of information I'll post it. :D

Oh, this is definitely walking down idiot memory lane. I could just scream thinking about this incident!!! When I was in graduate school, I had a cohort that had an experience those assumptions about women. I heard that she was at a (male) professor's office having an intellectually provoking conversation. She was talking to him about possible thesis, paper or comp topics. When she finished, the professor had some nerve to say to her face 'Gee, you are smart for a woman'. When I found out about it, I thought that some would have to pick my jaw up from the floor. The sad thing was that this ape was our professor for half a semester. We learned that he didn't tolerate young people, especially young women, who are as intelligent as he was. Does this mean that in order to survive in his lectures, I have act like Alicia Silverstone in Clueless? We gave the dept chair complaints about him. If he didn't like to teach women, who asked him to teach at a co-ed school. AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!

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Men veterinarians have higher saleries in general than women vets (I call it the "dick salary or contract")-there have been several articles about it in JAVMA (Journal of the American Veterinary Association)-it seems though some women don't care b/c of the attitude:"I'll just live off my husband".
That is so annoying for the rest of us who don't have husbands or that don't want to liver off of their salary. Until women change their attitudes and demand more it probably won't change. There are also a lot of "old school" men veterinarians that still treat women like second class workers-I can't wait until this breed retires.

I know how you feel. I hate going to get the oil changed in my truck, because every time I go in there, the guys at the desk are condescending and think they can just slip and put that cheap-a$$ Valvoline oil in my truck when I specifically asked for Pennzoil, because they think I don't know anything. Happens every friggin' time! :mad: They don't treat men like that, I've noticed...

OH MY GOD THIS MAKES ME NUTS!!! I get so sick of hearing "when you have kids they have to be your first priority. You will understand when you have them."

Well all I can say is if having kids makes you slack on your responsibilities and blow off your friends 8 times out of 10, I think I'll skip it. I realize there are real emergencies with children, but if every time you plan something you have to cancel because little Squidgy has an earache, I'm going to think you're bullshitting me and using the kid as an excuse to get out of it.

I think it's absolutely ridiculous to hear people saying that mothers are "shirking their responsabilities as mothers" when they want to have a career or a life outside of their families!! People are like, "Well, she decided to give up her life when she had kids." I don't know any mom who wanted to give up her identity to have children!! Kids are a blessing yes, and I'm sure I will love them dearly when I have them, but that should not equate to me not being a person anymore!! Dads are allowed to have jobs, hobbies, and friends, and still spend time with their kids, why can't moms?? Dads are supposed to spend "quality" time with the kids and that NEVER means all day all night and every time they make a sound, why is it that because I happen to have the uterus they came out of, I'm tied to them forever?? I will never compromise myself or my passions just because I decide to have a family. Men have both, so should we!!!!!!!!!

Wow. I'm really glad I'm going to be in a mostly female field (music therapy), but even still I'm sure my interviewers will at some time be male. I just hope they're not pigs like the aforementioned people. I look incredibly young and people even now are asking me when I'm getting my driver's license. My response is always "Five years ago."
My problem is this: Moms who act so damn self-righteous about their kids. Like they're so much better than me because they have them. Especially super young moms (18-24). Most of them had kids out of wedlock, lived off mom and dad, found a man, and now think they're the shiznit. I don't plan on kids until I'm in my late late 20s, and I don't need them asking me almost every day why I don't settle down and have kids. Um, hello it's called a career. And a desire to do more than clean up shit and get stretch marks.

Please don't think I hate kids or have no respect for moms. I really do. But I know I'm nowhere near ready and I don't like people feeling as if they should be determining the course of my life. Seriously, all the moms out there hats off to you. You've done things I know I couldn't do. And kids are cute and a joy and a blessing, especially 'cause I know they're not mine 24/7!

That bugs the HELL out of me!!

or "Meow!" after I say something not so nice or sweet! Who says women have to be nice all the friggin time?!?!!!!:mad:

Every man should read this!
It's so true, and it's so wrong!!!!