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wreckingcrew 05-28-2003 12:57 AM

Since GC is becoming like Sorority Life...
 
I will steal the lines of our favorite DZO pledge Brooke.

If you have a problem with anything i post, PM ME. More than likely i will be happy to explain my thoughts to you. I am not out here to make enemies like certain other GC posters, if i post something that has a bit of an edge to it, it is 99% of the time in jest.

i apologize to any that i offended with my "reasons Texas is better than nebraska" thread. However, if you reread my posts on that thread, the MOST negative thing that I posted was a couple of football scores from 2 years ago. HELL, any bugeater that was pissed could have called scoreboard on me for this year's game and i'd have shut up.

I'm sorry that i'm proud of this state and everything that it means to be a Texan. My sense of what it means to be a Texan is a little heightened lately, mostly because i just completed a Texas History course this spring and was refreshed with the struggles of the heros that carved this state out of a harsh wilderness. I'm sorry if that comes across as arrogance, but i'm certain all of us have the same kind of pride in something. Whether it be your GLO, your job, a goal that you achieved, accomplishments, etc. Mine happens to be in my Fraternity, School, State and Country.

I guess being an Aggie i'm used to taking a good-natured ribbing from time to time. AlphaSig and others i'm sure know a few good Aggie jokes. I didn't think that some of y'all are a little more quick to anger.

Once again, i apologize for any feelings that i may have hurt, but i implore GC that if I do something to offend, please contact ME. When i hear that other people are taking up arms for PMs they recieved concerning me, it makes me think of the DZO pledges tattling to sisters as opposed to taking it up directly with their pledge sisters. I know that we are not in the same pledge class here, but i do believe that most of us are peers and should be able to handle these situations person-to-person.

Kitso
KS 361 times whoever said Texas isn't southern needs to review the states that fought for the Confederacy, remember that the majority of population infux post-civil war was displaced Deep Southerners, understand that like the other states of the South, our economy was largely based on the cotton industry, and know that Texas never was or is mediocre.

Hootie 05-28-2003 01:38 AM

Kitso,

I understand why you started the thread, but that is neither here nor there. The reason why I was upset was because people started bashing a state that I am PROUD of. You say you're proud of your state, so I'd expect that you can understand why it'd be slightly insulting to have someone start a thread like that about Texas.

I can appreciate that most of your comments might have been about our football team...that is fine. But not all comments made in that thread were....and even if it were relating to simply football then it shouldn't reflect on the state as a whole. People, who don't even live here and have only passed through, felt obligated to add their 2 cents about Nebraska and most of it was offensive. And furthermore it was more insulting to have someone pick apart what I wrote (things about Nebraska that people didn't know) and throw it in my face and personally attack me.

I asked for the thread to be closed because it was turning into a slam session immediately...and I didn't appreciate it. Maybe that's not what you intended but I don't see how you learning about Texas history and your pride for your state means that Nebraska sucks?!?

There are a lot of Texas GCers on this board and lately all we hear about is Texas. That's great; be proud of your state and what it has to offer. I spent 6 months down in Texas and other than a few minor things (including my ex) I don't have much to say about it negatively. There's no need for it to be rubbed in my or anyone's face.

I just don't feel that I should be cut down for sticking up for my state...something yall do when ever someone has something negative to say about Texas. I don't appreciate people commenting in other threads about it and making it sound like it's all my fault.

I'd like to just leave it at this. I accept your appology...I did so in the thread. If I have a problem with it and want to discuss it with someone else then that's my choice. This is the internet, not a work environment. I try not to air my frustrations out on GC...and I'm unaware of what PM's you're referring to.

So that's all I have to ad. I'd prefer that this not turn into another thread like that. No one is trying to make this into sorority life but those who are constantly rubbing things in people's faces.

Amy

sugar and spice 05-28-2003 01:52 AM

I have to admit I didn't read the thread, but I think it's fairly obvious that, while you might proud of Texas, most of the rest of us are just as proud of our states. I love Wisconsin to death and I'm not afraid to admit that, even though it's bashed a lot, most of the time by people who've never even been here. So I think it's fair to say that while you should be proud of your state (there are a lot of great things about Texas :D ), it's best to be proud without stepping on anybody else's toes . . . 'cause we all love our states just as much as you love Texas.

I have to admit that sometimes people take things a little too seriously around here, though.

The1calledTKE 05-28-2003 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sugar and spice
I have to admit I didn't read the thread, but I think it's fairly obvious that, while you might proud of Texas, most of the rest of us are just as proud of our states. I love Wisconsin to death and I'm not afraid to admit that, even though it's bashed a lot, most of the time by people who've never even been here. So I think it's fair to say that while you should be proud of your state (there are a lot of great things about Texas :D ), it's best to be proud without stepping on anybody else's toes . . . 'cause we all love our states just as much as you love Texas.

I have to admit that sometimes people take things a little too seriously around here, though.

Brilliant!!!

sororitygirl2 05-28-2003 01:57 AM

People taking things too seriously around here?! NEVER! ;)

wreckingcrew 05-28-2003 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hootie
Kitso,

And furthermore it was more insulting to have someone pick apart what I wrote (things about Nebraska that people didn't know) and throw it in my face and personally attack me.

I agree with you, that would upset me also, but i nowhere said that.

Quote:



I asked for the thread to be closed because it was turning into a slam session immediately...and I didn't appreciate it. Maybe that's not what you intended but I don't see how you learning about Texas history and your pride for your state means that Nebraska sucks?!?

It doesn't. It was a joke that docet started, so in humor, i posted things about Texas. In retrospect, i should have just named the thread "reasons why Texas is the best state" but i wanted him to know it was directed to him. once again, i NEVER said nebraska sucks.

Quote:


I just don't feel that I should be cut down for sticking up for my state...something yall do when ever someone has something negative to say about Texas. I don't appreciate people commenting in other threads about it and making it sound like it's all my fault.

Once again, nothing in that thread was a personal attack by me on anyone, and i really don't recall attacking anyone who said something negative about Texas. I don't know what you mean by commenting on it in other threads.

Quote:

I'm unaware of what PM's you're referring to.


Amy

The PM's i'm referring to are mentioned here by DeltAlum:

DeltAlums response

After more consideration, i want to add the following to this disclaimer. When calling out people for PMing others when the problem was with me, i was assuming that the PMs DeltAlum recieved were in response to what i had posted. There were much more flammatory responses on that thread than what i had posted, so if that's what the PMs were about, i apologize. However, if i was the subject of said PMs, refer to my original post on this thread.

Kitso
KS 361 lines of code this reply took to finish

bethany1982 05-28-2003 02:07 AM

Since GC is becoming like Sorority Life... are we going to end next week with a 30 minute finale? Oh no! Some people need to get a sense of humor... if you can't laugh about yourself. I'm from CA. I love it. Bash away... OMG, we are all going to fall into the Pacific. God is going to judge us because of all the gays in the Bay Area. Fruits and nuts. By the way, if you want to pledge here, you better not be talking to anyone else.

sugar and spice 05-28-2003 02:12 AM

"And you better come up to me and say hello to me, 'cause this is MY sorority and you need to be impressing me before I let you in, and so far you haven't impressed me at all!" ;)

The1calledTKE 05-28-2003 02:13 AM

No offense, but if you want the respect of someone pming you with problems they may have with what you said why not give them the same respect you want instead of start a thread that probably lead to another back and forth argument.

AlphaGamDiva 05-28-2003 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sugar and spice
"And you better come up to me and say hello to me, 'cause this is MY sorority and you need to be impressing me before I let you in, and so far you haven't impressed me at all!" ;)

you forgot to add "dirty trick" mumbled under your breath..... ;)

Hootie 05-28-2003 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
I agree with you, that would upset me also, but i nowhere said that.

But what I was pointing out was as a result of the thread a person slammed me personally "I'm sorry...did he marry a Texan"...I wasn't saying you did it. :)

It doesn't. It was a joke that docet started, so in humor, i posted things about Texas. In retrospect, i should have just named the thread "reasons why Texas is the best state" but i wanted him to know it was directed to him. once again, i NEVER said nebraska sucks.

No offense but if you want to talk about GC turning into sorority life it's because of something that one person said OFF of GC in an AOL chat that was brought to GC. I just happened to be the one offended and defended my position.

Once again, nothing in that thread was a personal attack by me on anyone, and i really don't recall attacking anyone who said something negative about Texas. I don't know what you mean by commenting on it in other threads.

I wasn't stating it was you, but people in that thread did say some things that were personal or insulting. What I meant by other threads is something I'd rather not disclose her but can certainly PM you about.

The PM's i'm referring to are mentioned here by DeltAlum:

DeltAlums response

After more consideration, i want to add the following to this disclaimer. When calling out people for PMing others when the problem was with me, i was assuming that the PMs DeltAlum recieved were in response to what i had posted. There were much more flammatory responses on that thread than what i had posted, so if that's what the PMs were about, i apologize. However, if i was the subject of said PMs, refer to my original post on this thread.

You're taking things way too personally then. If you didn't post anything offensive then you should have a clear mind. The only thing you should appologize for is the title of the thread then. If I want to PM a reply to Delt Alum saying THANK YOU for so tastefully stating something I couldn't then that's my choice. Those who were flamitory with their postings know it and that's why John locked the thread...probably why THIS thread will be locked too.



bethany1982 05-28-2003 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sugar and spice
"And you better come up to me and say hello to me, 'cause this is MY sorority and you need to be impressing me before I let you in, and so far you haven't impressed me at all!" ;)

Hi... in my best stereotypical San Fernando Valley voice. Oh please, please, please let me in.

wreckingcrew 05-28-2003 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by zntke711
No offense, but if you want the respect of someone pming you with problems they may have with what you said why not give them the same respect you want instead of start a thread that probably lead to another back and forth argument.
the thing is that i don't know who PMed him.

The point of me starting this thread was to just ask people that if they have a problem with something i post, please let me know.

I'm not here trying to step on toes and start a GC fight. In fact, i would really prefer to see eye-to-eye with the majority of GCers.

in closing, i'm not trying to offend. If anyone out there has a problem with what i post, please tell me.

Kitso
KS 361 times i didn't intend for this thread to go this way, it was supposed to be an apology along with invitation for people who have problems with me to PM me

sugar and spice 05-28-2003 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bethany1982
Hi... in my best stereotypical San Fernando Valley voice. Oh please, please, please let me in.
Not until you stick your butt out the window and say the Greek alphabet backwards.


I think this thread has officially been hijacked. :p Sorry Kitso!

bethany1982 05-28-2003 02:41 AM

AggieSigmaNu361

For what it’s worth, I think you have exhibited genuine integrity. You have apologized for inadvertently offending another poster. To me, that is admirable. I wouldn’t expect such sensitivity from anyone who lists College Station, TX, as his location. (The last part was a joke... flame me if you want... LOL!) I do admire your attempt to patch things up.

wreckingcrew 05-28-2003 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sugar and spice
I think this thread has officially been hijacked. :p Sorry Kitso!
eh, it's ok, i've gotten out what i wanted to say.

and if you make her stick her butt out the window and sing the Greek alphabet, i'm gonna get online and look up your state hazing laws ;)

Kitso
KS 361 times i'm fixin to ask hootie, "are you threatening me?"[/maggie voice] ;)

GeekyPenguin 05-28-2003 02:46 AM

Where I come from, snitches sleep with the fishes!

http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/splat.gif

bethany1982 05-28-2003 02:51 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by sugar and spice
[B]Not until you stick your butt out the window and say the Greek alphabet backwards.


Omega, Psi, Chi, Phi, Upsilon, Tau, Sigma, Rho, Pi, Omicron, Xi, Nu, Mu, Lambda, Kappa, Iota, Theta, Eta, Zeta, Epsilon, Delta, Gamma, Beta, Alpha

That would have been easier to do drunk.

The1calledTKE 05-28-2003 02:52 AM

Hootie is a sweet innocent gal she would never threaten anyone. Hooray for Hootie!! :D

wreckingcrew 05-28-2003 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bethany1982
[B]
Quote:

Originally posted by sugar and spice
Not until you stick your butt out the window and say the Greek alphabet backwards.



Omega, Psi, Chi, Phi, Upsilon, Tau, Sigma, Rho, Pi, Omicron, Xi, Nu, Mu, Lambda, Kappa, Iota, Theta, Eta, Zeta, Epsilon, Delta, Gamma, Beta, Alpha

That would have been easier to do drunk.

that's it, Y'ALL are screwed!!! I'm gonna look it up.....but i'm too fatigued right now to do it....maybe later.

Kitso
KS 361

Hootie 05-28-2003 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bethany1982
AggieSigmaNu361

For what it’s worth, I think you have exhibited genuine integrity. You have apologized for inadvertently offending another poster. To me, that is admirable. I wouldn’t expect such sensitivity from anyone who lists College Station, TX, as his location. (The last part was a joke... flame me if you want... LOL!) I do admire your attempt to patch things up.

I agree and I don't honestly have a problem with Kitso personally....he's done more than his fair share of appologizing. But a lot of my reply to what he had to say didn't refer to him but to others. He didn't say my state sucked...others did. And that's actually not what I was upset about. People who KNOW me and what I've gone through understand the last line and understood my frustration with the thread and the insult.

So lets all move on before I gotta get my butt kicked by John for being a Moderator and causing trouble by responding here :p

Hootie 05-28-2003 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by zntke711
Hootie is a sweet innocent gal she would never threaten anyone. Hooray for Hootie!! :D
Awe don't give me that much credit. Someday my experiences in REATAIL will mound up and some poor soul will witness the wrath of AMY. MWAHAHAHAHAHAH:p


Hmmmm like maybe that woman who told me to shut up two weeks ago after bending over backwards to help her when it was really her fault (I don't buy that "the customer is always right" bs).:D

The1calledTKE 05-28-2003 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hootie
(I don't buy that "the customer is always right" bs).:D
I agree with ya. There are alot of stupid people out there. They ask stupid question and expect you to do things you possibly can't.

AlphaGamDiva 05-28-2003 03:01 AM

yay! hijacking!!

OMG i haaaaaaaaaaate retail.....food service has its negatives, but retail is just HORRID....avoid it at all costs.....the gen pub SUCKS

PrincessHeather 05-28-2003 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361

in closing, i'm not trying to offend. If anyone out there has a problem with what i post, please tell me

Even though I don't have anything to do with the recent drama...and I've never personally talk to you, Kitso before I still wanted to say...

I've got nothin but love for ya!
I think your posts are great and I enjoy reading them (I'll never look at the #361 the same way again ;) )

and Hootie you seem like such a sweet person and i'm sorry to for whoever upset you. I hope things are cool now.

and too sugar and spice and bethany1982. You two crack me up. (not just in this thread but all the time; i love your guy's posts too!) sorry to include you two in my post but I figured I have enough love to spread all over the boards. :)

much love to everyone else too. ;)

ok I'm done
~Heather

*edited to add: zntke and AGDiva you too crack me up too. Diva I always love reading your post you are too funny*
(I wanted to include everyone in the thread. so stop posting before I'm done!!)

KSig RC 05-28-2003 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bethany1982
AggieSigmaNu361

For what it’s worth, I think you have exhibited genuine integrity. You have apologized for inadvertently offending another poster. To me, that is admirable. I wouldn’t expect such sensitivity from anyone who lists College Station, TX, as his location. (The last part was a joke... flame me if you want... LOL!) I do admire your attempt to patch things up.


I like Kitso, even though he's a Big XII apologist.




















yeah i don't know why that matters, but that is all.

FiReKraCkEr 05-28-2003 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrincessHeather
*edited to add: zntke and AGDiva you too crack me up too. Diva I always love reading your post you are too funny*
HEY HEY....you can't say MY friends AND NOT ME!!!!! Now I feel left out! :(

damn, I thought I put out some cool, high quality isht out here in GC....seems that I am not

Must go cry in a corner.




jk

moe.ron 05-28-2003 06:16 AM

You all suck. Everybody knows that NY is the greatest state in this nation. And New Jersey (hah Kate) does not exist, it's just where we New Yorker dump our garbage (Staten Island is full)

AXO Alum 05-28-2003 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Where I come from, snitches sleep with the fishes!

http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/splat.gif

Come on GP - Its just petty larceny -- what's the big deal? :D


Are you looking at Tim? I swear I thought I saw you look at him... you better not be looking at Tim! Tim once looked at the state of Texas on a map -- he might actually visit Texas one day, and if he does, you better not be there because he is mine. Sorry, I don't have time to talk anymore in this thread - I have to meet with the caterers and audition the musicians {hmpffff}.....

White_Chocolate 05-28-2003 09:20 AM

Personally, I think the problem starts when others come in a thread and say something about their state.

If the thread says, we like Texas
And you want to post in it about your state
Be prepared to get flamed out the wazoo
Because to Texans far and wide, nothing is better

Like we say

If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen!

greeklawgirl 05-28-2003 11:35 AM

W_C, you completely missed Hootie's point. One comment in particular on the Texas/Nebraska thread was personal, mean-spirited, and completely out of line--that, I think, is what people were up in arms about.

Kitso and Amy, I think you're both great people and I'd be honored to visit Texas AND Nebraska if it meant I could have a laugh over a beer with the two of you! :)

DeltAlum 05-28-2003 11:53 AM

[QUOTE]once again, i NEVER said nebraska sucks.

In fairness to Kitso, he never used the word "sucks" and I offered him appologies on a different thread for using the word in my response.

In the interest of NOT inviting more flames for anyone, I will not divulge from whom I received PM's.

Suffice it to say that, whether the entire thing was meant as a joke or not, some people were offended.

My initial entrance into the debate was because I feared that people would be offended.

GeekyPenguin 05-28-2003 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AXO Alum
Come on GP - Its just petty larceny -- what's the big deal? :D


Are you looking at Tim? I swear I thought I saw you look at him... you better not be looking at Tim! Tim once looked at the state of Texas on a map -- he might actually visit Texas one day, and if he does, you better not be there because he is mine. Sorry, I don't have time to talk anymore in this thread - I have to meet with the caterers and audition the musicians {hmpffff}.....

I can't believe your boyfriend gave you a diamond engagement ring! :mad: Tim is going to give me a diamond engagement right, why did you have to go and copy us?

DeltAlum 05-28-2003 12:04 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DeltAlum
[B]
Quote:

My initial entrance
From our Department of Redundancy Department. Geez. In this context, how can an entrance not be initial?

Dionysus 05-28-2003 12:07 PM

Attention pledges (GCers who have been members less than a year)
 
1. Dissing locations

2. PMing and IMing people behind their backs.

3. Hijacking

^

That is just disrespectful. :p

Hootie 05-28-2003 12:22 PM

The whole thing was laid to rest last night so I'm only going to comment once more.

You say:
Personally, I think the problem starts when others come in a thread and say something about their state.

Do you think you contributed to that at all?

You say:
If you can't take the heat then stay out of the kitchen

As we say here in Nebraska:
If you don't have something nice to say then don't say anything at all!

White_Chocolate 05-28-2003 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by greeklawgirl
W_C, you completely missed Hootie's point. One comment in particular on the Texas/Nebraska thread was personal, mean-spirited, and completely out of line--that, I think, is what people were up in arms about.

Kitso and Amy, I think you're both great people and I'd be honored to visit Texas AND Nebraska if it meant I could have a laugh over a beer with the two of you! :)

I think that people are just too serious
The way that I look at it is 'stick and stones. . .
Besides, we're supposed to be taking this stuff lightly anyway
And I know what comment you're talking about
It was probably mine;)
No one ever goes out of their way to offend anyone
But when you're doing a comparison thread of why one state is better than another
Jokes are bound to get tossed out there
Just like my comment about the whole 'ex in Texas'
It was meant as a joke
Because literally if he is still in Texas
He's probably dating someone in the state

No one sees me getting all rustled up(Texas word)
about the constant(and often overworn, tiring, and bored)
racial issues that come up
I just take the comments lightly
Post my thoughts
And move on
And if something really fires me up
I calm down, re-read and try to find something smart aleck to say
Because you really can't tell
(except by the smilies)
If someone is kidding around or not

Hootie 05-28-2003 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by White_Chocolate
I think that people are just too serious
The way that I look at it is 'stick and stones. . .
Besides, we're supposed to be taking this stuff lightly anyway
And I know what comment you're talking about
It was probably mine;)
No one ever goes out of their way to offend anyone
But when you're doing a comparison thread of why one state is better than another
Jokes are bound to get tossed out there
Just like my comment about the whole 'ex in Texas'
It was meant as a joke
Because literally if he is still in Texas
He's probably dating someone in the state

No one sees me getting all rustled up(Texas word)
about the constant(and often overworn, tiring, and bored)
racial issues that come up
I just take the comments lightly
Post my thoughts
And move on
And if something really fires me up
I calm down, re-read and try to find something smart aleck to say
Because you really can't tell
(except by the smilies)
If someone is kidding around or not

No, the point was the thread wasn't a comparison...it was a "hey lets knock on one state and while we're at it lets list why Texas is better.

I simply listed things about my state that people didn't know...and sorry but when something is picked apart (like what I wrote) and commented on inch by inch then yeah, I take that as a personal insult...because obviously they're trying to do more harm than "joke" by bashing each thing I write.

I usually don't take things too seriously, but should I chose to, I have that right. Ya didn't say is he dating someone else, you out right said, "Im sorry...did he marry someone from Texas". I didn't see any jokes flying from that entire posts direction. Sorry. I took offense.

I'm dropping this entire issue. I asked for that thread to be locked and this was resolved as of last night. It's just drudging things up again and again.


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