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AAgammagirl 05-03-2003 01:49 PM

National or International?
 
I was just wondering how many of the NPC sororities (or IFC fraternities) are international? i notice alot of people on GC call them nationals. if your GLO is international, where and when did it become so?
Gamma Phi Beta became an international sorority in 1919 at the University of Toronto, Canada.
:D

Unregistered- 05-03-2003 01:53 PM

Alpha Gamma Delta Fraternity became international in 1917 also at the University of Toronto when the Tau Chapter was established.

The1calledTKE 05-03-2003 01:53 PM

TKE is international. CanadianTeke likes to point that out alot too. lol

kddani 05-03-2003 01:54 PM

KD's only national.

Once we get all the answers to this, it would be nice to have one complied list.

sugar and spice 05-03-2003 02:14 PM

Tri Delta became international at the University of Toronto in 1930.

Aphigal 05-03-2003 03:11 PM

International
 
Alpha Phi's Xi Chapter at the University of Toronto was installed in 1906, thus making Alpha Phi and Interenational women's fraternity.

AUDeltaGam 05-03-2003 03:13 PM

DG's first international chapter was also at the University of Toronto, so we are also international!

OUlioness01 05-03-2003 03:43 PM

Phi Mu has initiated members living all over the world, but as far as i know we only have chapters in the United States. There might be a alumnae chapter in another country somewhere that I don't know about though.

MooseGirl 05-03-2003 04:14 PM

Phi Sig is international....but we're still in the habit of saying natinal (trying to change, but old habits die hard)

We went International in 1930 at teh University of Manitoba - chapter now inactive.

For a fairly complete list of international(us/can) orgs visit http://www.canadiangreeks.com . They have lists of current GLOs in Canada as well as GLOs that used to be present.

AAgammagirl 05-03-2003 04:18 PM

We used to have alot more sororities at U of T, i think there were 12-15 but alot of them closed when the university bought out the land that the sorority (and frat) houses were built on to build a new (2nd largest in Canada) library. They closed back in the 50's i think. we also used to be recognized by the university back then, but due to one of the sororities not allowing an african american woman to join, they disaffiliated with us.
i know that we definitely had Delta Gamma, Alpha Phi now lives in their old house though. i think we also had Kappa Alpha Theta, but i'm not sure.:(

queequek 05-03-2003 05:09 PM

Theta Delta Chi went international in 1901, the installment of Zeta Deuteron Charge at McGill University in Montreal, Quebec, Canada.

Peaches-n-Cream 05-03-2003 05:14 PM

Delta Phi Epsilon has been an international sorority since we established the Epsilon chapter at McGill in 1922.

wreckingcrew 05-03-2003 05:16 PM

Sigma Nu is international.

Our Zeta Delta chapter was founded at the University of Toronto in 1949.

It might have been before then, i'm unfamiliar with the names of some of the schools on our list. I'm sure ktsnake knows for sure.

Kitso
KS 361

MooseGirl 05-03-2003 05:18 PM

Re: My random musing on this thread!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by decadence
I've noticed a lot of people call them nationals here, even when they may have chapters in Canada - force of habit I guess. Most of what are called internationals seem to be bi-nationals (I don't think that's actually a real word :cool: ) in that they're only in the US and Canada. Hopefully they will spread out more in time, so everyone can enjoy what rich benefits fraternity and sorority life has to offer.

...Decadence.

Yeah that's so true...sometimes i feel like i'm a radical when i tell my sisters to say international, but that's ok...

as for spreading to other coutries; that would be interesting...I was just on MSN with a French friend - i told her i was going to a sorority conference, sorority? what's that?...ummm there's no word in french for it, it's like a woman's org at university...

Similar situation couple years ago talking with my brother and his japanese girlfriend...tried explaining it to her...they typed it into their English-japanese translator thingy and the result was "women's club"....just not the same meaning...

So, there's definitely a culture gap that would have to be jumped before expansion :p

CutiePie2000 05-03-2003 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AAgammagirl
We used to have alot more sororities at U of T, i think there were 12-15 but alot of them closed when the university bought out the land that the sorority (and frat) houses were built on to build a new (2nd largest in Canada) library. They closed back in the 50's i think. we also used to be recognized by the university back then, but due to one of the sororities not allowing an african american woman to join, they disaffiliated with us.
i know that we definitely had Delta Gamma, Alpha Phi now lives in their old house though. i think we also had Kappa Alpha Theta, but i'm not sure.:(

Yes, ma'am! There was Theta and plenty others, like DG and ADPi.
Go here: www.canadiangreeks.com for all the goodies! :D

cntryZTA5 05-03-2003 07:22 PM

Zeta Tau Alpha is also called international, although we do not have any active chapters in Canada currently.

University of Manitoba - Beta Rho Chapter (1929-1993)

We do have alumnae chapters in Canada:

Winnipeg Manitoba
Toronto Ontario

33girl 05-03-2003 07:59 PM

ASA is national - we've never had any chapters in another country.

Ginger 05-03-2003 09:14 PM

Delta Omicron is international - we have a few chapters in Korea, and possibly one in Canada, I'm not sure about that one. I am not sure when DO colonized in Korea though, I think sometime in the 70s or 80s.

AAgammagirl 05-03-2003 10:48 PM

if delta omicron is an NPC women's fraternity, it's not international by having chapters in Canada. i've never even heard of delta omicron before (sorry).:confused:

PsychTau 05-04-2003 12:15 AM

Alpha Sigma Tau remains a national sorority. Not sure when we will make it to Canada, but that's OK. :D I love it anyways!

honeychile 05-04-2003 12:26 AM

Alpha Delta Pi's first Canadian chapter was Beta Zeta, University of Toronto, in 1929. Even though we always referred to "National", when a lot of other phrases were changed (such as pledge, rush, etc), we were asked to start referring to National as EO for Executive Office.

Some habits die hard!

bsp-mich24 05-04-2003 02:57 AM

We are a little different as an non-academic GLO
 
BSP is an International sorority with members in 30 countries (including Africa, Canada, Australia, and others). We do have several chapters of mostly college-aged women .;)



Edited 5/3 to include the 15 Online chapters.

docetboy 05-04-2003 04:36 AM

The traditional roots of Kappa Sigma span centuries and a vast expanse of geography.

While Virginia can claim the birthplace of our modern-day brotherhood, Kappa Sigma is truly an international Fraternity.

The installation of Delta-Epsilon Chapter at the University of Toronto in 1924 marked the technical beginning of Kappa Sigma's international expansion. However, the spirit of a Fraternity that transcends boundaries and borders is as ancient as the secret Order itself.

The essence of Kappa Sigma's international mission is best explained by recognizing that no chapter house or country can contain our brotherhood. Kappa Sigma is anywhere a brother goes.

BTW - our headquarters, nationals, whatever is called our "International Memorial Headquarters" or IMH. IMH is in Charlottesville, VA and is a beautiful building of Georgian architecture, purchased in 1966.
http://www.epsilonsigma.com/photos/misc/tn_imh1.jpg

aephi alum 05-04-2003 08:18 AM

The University of Toronto seems to have been a popular place for "first international chapters" :)

AEPhi became international with the establishment of the Alpha Alpha chapter at U of T in 1927. There was another chapter, at York University, at one point. Both are now closed; not sure if that means we're back to being national...

DGMarie 05-04-2003 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AAgammagirl
if delta omicron is an NPC women's fraternity, it's not international by having chapters in Canada. i've never even heard of delta omicron before (sorry).:confused:
Delta Omicron is not an NPC group but definately still a GLO. It is a professional music fraternity. (I know this because I was in Tau Beta Sigma and a lot of our members were also in DO).

http://www.delta-omicron.org/home.html

Kevin 05-04-2003 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
Sigma Nu is international.

Our Zeta Delta chapter was founded at the University of Toronto in 1949.

It might have been before then, i'm unfamiliar with the names of some of the schools on our list. I'm sure ktsnake knows for sure.

Kitso
KS 361

That's the first one. The only other that I can name is Kappa Beta at Western Ontario which is in London, Ontario.

sigmagrrl 05-04-2003 11:37 AM

Sigma Sigma Sigma is truly international! We have a chapter in Germany!

sailorpiphi 05-04-2003 11:48 AM

I would really like to know where in germany there is a tri sig chapter because i am here in germany studying right now. ITs really quite weird to try to explain to people the concept of a sorority. they just dont have it here. people ask me where i live and explainig that i live in a single house with 45 girls is also difficult to explain. :) It would be really cool if the system traveled to europe. A couple of my good friends here, after me explaining for a while the system have found it really cool and have wished that they could also experience greek life!

MooseGirl 05-04-2003 01:01 PM

There are currently 13 active NPC groups in Canada as well as two non NPC(Ceres, Pi Nu Epsilon) and of course several locals and a few Canadian Nationals...

There are 6 NPC groups that were in Canada and are now inactive (but may still have alum groups) Those are AEPhi, AXO, ZTA, SDT, SK, and XO.

There are 26 active NIC groups and 8 inactive. As well as 1 non-NIC international (theta gamma), a few locals and 1 canadian national.

As for non-social GLOs I dunno....Canadian Greeks doesn't include sevice or music GLOs...maybe that's something we should tell the webmaster :)

that's it for me...

honeychile 05-04-2003 01:20 PM

I can't believe that I've taken to keeping my ADPi books so close to the computer....

In a quick scan, I found one inactive chapter (U. of Toronto) and two active chapters (U. of Manitoba & U. of British Columbia at Vancouver) for ADPi.

We've held two of our Conventions at Banff. I think people just like to say the word "Banff" - or they have a Rocky & Bullwinkle thing going on...

MysticCat 05-05-2003 09:42 AM

Well, Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia isn't in the NIC (not yet, at least, although I understand it is being considered), but we are not international, nor do I think there is any desire for us to extend ourselves internationally. Our official name is Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia Fraternity of America, and an American emphasis has always been part of our fraternity culture.

SATX*APhi 05-05-2003 09:51 AM

Re: International
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Aphigal
Alpha Phi's Xi Chapter at the University of Toronto was installed in 1906, thus making Alpha Phi and Interenational women's fraternity.
Ahh, she beat me to it! :)

Greekgrrl 05-05-2003 10:14 AM

I vaguely remember posting this on another thread, but I'll do it again. :)

Kappa Alpha Theta is international, and has been since 1887, when her Sigma chapter was established at the University of Toronto. Theta's other Canadian chapters were established at the University of British Columbia, University of Alberta, University of Guelph, University of Western Ontario, and McGill University.

The Alberta, UWO, and McGill chapters are still in operation, although the other three have been disestablished.

-Greekgrrl

Senusret I 05-05-2003 10:36 AM

Alpha Phi Alpha was also one of the many GLO's with it's first international chapter being seated at the University of Toronto. (The Original Delta Chapter, 1908)

Beta Psi Chapter in London, England was our first overseas chapter, chartered in 1938.

Our first overseas grad chapter was in Monrovia, Liberia...Eta Epsilon Lambda Chapter, 1958.

(Brothers please assist if any of the dates or facts are inaccurate)

CutiePie2000 05-05-2003 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aephi alum
The University of Toronto seems to have been a popular place for "first international chapters" :)

That's because Toronto is one of Canada's oldest cities (since Canada, like the USA, was populated from East to West.)

Canada's oldest university is University of Laval (a Francophone universtity)...no sororities there!

Quote:

Originally posted by sailorpiphi
I would really like to know where in germany there is a tri sig chapter because i am here in germany studying right now. ITs really quite weird to try to explain to people the concept of a sorority. they just dont have it here. people ask me where i live and explainig that i live in a single house with 45 girls is also difficult to explain. :)
The Tri Sigma chapter in Germany is at the University of Maryland in Mannheim, Germany. If you tell Germans that fraternities and sororities are like "Student Corporations", they will actually understand this. I visited a "fraternity house" in Heidelberg and it was from a "Student Corporation". They do dueling and stuff like that (no lie!)...actually, it's a source of of pride to have a scar on your face from dueling (no, they don't duel to the death!) The one that I visitied was called "Vineta".

Quote:

Originally posted by Greekgrrl
Kappa Alpha Theta is international, and has been since 1887, when her Sigma chapter was established at the University of Toronto. Theta's other Canadian chapters were established at the University of British Columbia, University of Alberta, University of Guelph, University of Western Ontario, and McGill University.

Actually Theta was the first NPC to "set up shop" in Canada ever and that was at the University of Toronto (that chapter has since closed). The oldest/longest continuing chapter in Canada is Alpha Phi at Univ. of Toronto. The Alpha Phi house at Univ. of Toronto is the former Delta Gamma house!!

moe.ron 05-07-2003 09:48 AM

also many countries that are in the commonwealth arrange their dorms as sort of like fraternities. If you go to South Africa, to get into residences, you need to apply before the membership committee of respected dorms. Most likely you will not get in unless your father or mother is was in the residence. (Hence the problem in University of STellenbosch where it is staunchly conservative and they let in token non-white to get the university of their back) They have initiation (or we call pledging) for the first year of your stay. I know that in STellenbosch, the university are trying to reform the system but it's being blocked by alumnis. Imagine pledging to live in the dormitories. They have something like homecomming (they call it venter), intramural between the reisdences (a very big rugby league, i belive most residence have 3 to 4 teams), they also have exeutive board, etc. Pretty much function like a fraternity.

Lady Pi Phi 05-07-2003 10:18 AM

Pi Beta Phi became international with it's first Canadian Chapter, Ontario Alpha...Yup, you guessed it...at UofT in 1908.

Pi Beta Phi has Ontario Beta at UWO (University of Western Ontario), Ontario Gamma (Yay, my chapter!!!) at the University of Guelph, and Alberta Alpha at the the University of Alberta.

There are 2 inactive Canadian chapters at the University of Manitoba and Dalhousie University in Halifax, Nova Scotia.

sherbertlemons 05-07-2003 11:37 AM

Kappa first became an international with our Beta Psi Chapter at the University of Toronto in 1911. It has been continously open since. We also have Gamma Upsilon, at the University of British Colombia, opened in 1929, as well as Delta Delta, located at McGill University and opened in 1930. There is also Zeta Omega, opened in 1994, at the University of Waterloo.

We also used to have Gamma Sigma, at the University of Manitoba, open from 1928-1976.

texas*princess 05-07-2003 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sailorpiphi
ITs really quite weird to try to explain to people the concept of a sorority. they just dont have it here. people ask me where i live and explainig that i live in a single house with 45 girls is also difficult to explain. :) It would be really cool if the system traveled to europe. A couple of my good friends here, after me explaining for a while the system have found it really cool and have wished that they could also experience greek life!
I completely agree with you! When I was in high school I met a foriegn exchange student from Scotland and since then we've kept in touch. I told him about how I joined ADPi and he didn't understand it, but was so intruiged with it he also said he wished he could have experienced greek life:)

Lady Pi Phi 05-07-2003 11:56 AM

The University of Manitoba has a lot of defunct chapters. Did something happen on that campus that madwe these chapters disband, or is there just a huge anti-greek sentiment on that campus? Does anyone know?


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