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MelodyCat 04-25-2003 10:54 AM

Advice for a possible PNAM?
 
Hi, everyone. I never went through formal rush or COB for a NPC org in college for several reasons. A big one was that I was quite nervous about going through rush at my undergrad college - I won't name the school, but it's a big Southern school with a very competitive rush. I was always curious about Greek Life, and did pledge a MCGLO, but I realized it wasn't the right place for me during the pledge process and dropped out before initiation. In retrospect, that was a good thing, as the chapter of that org had a lot of problems and lost a good deal of their membership the next two semesters.

I graduated from college in December and moved, and now I'm pondering AI. I'm looking at two orgs in particular, neither of which was at my undergrad school, but both are at the school I may be taking graduate classes at this fall.

I'm wondering about a couple of things:

1.) How do NPC orgs view someone who did what I did - i.e. pledge a MCGLO but not initiate?
2.) Do any NPC orgs actually initiate graduate students as full actives, or would AI be the best option?

CutiePie2000 04-25-2003 11:05 AM

Re: Advice for a possible PNAM?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by MelodyCat
I'm wondering about a couple of things:

1.) How do NPC orgs view someone who did what I did - i.e. pledge a MCGLO but not initiate?
2.) Do any NPC orgs actually initiate graduate students as full actives, or would AI be the best option?

1.) I guess, my advice would be to be "cautious" and say less rather than more, so I would not mention the MCGLO pledging. You were never "fully initiated into membership" with the MCGLO so IMO, that chapter is over, closed and behind you.
Besides, if you had pledged an NPC sorority, but not initiated into full membership, then you are still a "free agent" and can initiate with an NPC.

2). Graduate Students..hmm, that's a toughie and to be honest with you, I don't have a lot of knowledge about Grad Students approaching NPCs. I think Phi Sigma Sigma initiates grad students, but I think it may depend a lot on the "climate" of the campus. (i.e. in general, the South is a more conservative than the North, but do not despair...we've had successful "Southern" AI's so it can happen!)

If you wanted to PM me for further advice or private "consultation", I am all ears and ready to listen!
Thank you for coming to this board, it's always wonderful to hear from women who are thinking of becoming a prospective alumna initiate! :D
P.S. Be sure to check out My Advice to Prospective Alumnae Initiates and then come back with any questions! We are here for you. If you'd like, I will add your name to the Roll Call of Alumnae Initiates and Prospective Alumnae Initiates as well!

adduncan 04-25-2003 11:05 AM

Paging CutiePie2000, you're on!!

Welcome MelodyCat. Just wanted to invite you to pull up a chair and pour a fresh mug because the people on here will shower you with some honest and constructive thoughts.

Since I'm not that well versed on MCGLOs, I'm going to defer to the others who are. I just wanted you to know you're not alone in this PNAM boat.

Hey, does this make the GC PNAMs a PNAM pledge class???? ;)

Have a great one!
Adrienne (PNAM-2003)
:D

33girl 04-25-2003 11:05 AM

Melody - I know for sure that Phi Sigma Sigma will initiate a grad student as an active rather than alumna. There might be other groups but PSS has been confirmed on here. :)

CutiePie2000 04-25-2003 11:19 AM

Re: Advice for a possible PNAM?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by MelodyCat
I'm looking at two orgs in particular, neither of which was at my undergrad school, but both are at the school I may be taking graduate classes at this fall.
You did not mention which 2 orgs that you were interested in (and I would caution you not to post it publicly on the board...best to be discreet and not "show your slip" as it were ); however, if you wanted to elict any advice or feedback, I will try to help. I've been on this board for (coming up on) 3 years, so I've been in touch with many AI's, and know their stories, etc. I try to keep current on "The State of Alumna Initiation" across the 26 NPCs. :D
GOOD LUCK and we hope that you post again, soon!

MelodyCat 04-25-2003 11:29 AM

Thanks, everyone, for your warm welcome! :) I haven't contacted the orgs I'm interested in yet, but I'll be sure to keep everyone posted when I do. :)

adduncan, I'm about to PM you. Your sig tells me you might know a bit about the school I may go through the AI process at. :)

doubleblue&gold 04-25-2003 11:32 AM

You should definitely pursue A!. We just had initiation at the college chapter I work with. There were 2 Alum initiates. One of the women had pledged when she was in college but didn't return the next semester and was never initiated. (back in the days when you pledged one semester and were initiated the next, after you made grades). THat did nothing to keep her from getting approval to initiate with us-----actually we heard on her paperwork after only 2 weeks!

Two years ago, we initiated a grad studet as an alum. She was married and didn't feel like she could devote the time as an active member. Since that was already decided, we didn't have to find out whether the college chapter had to agree on her initiation. But I would think if you were going to try to be active,the college members woud have to invite you to join----I just don't kow about that aspect.

Good luck in whatever you decide and do!

Sistermadly 04-25-2003 04:01 PM

Do it, do it, do it!

Joining Alpha Phi as an alumna initiate was one of the best things I've ever done. Women have so much to contribute after their university days are over, and I for one would love to see unaffilated alums "join up".

Best of luck to you - and may you soon join the ranks of the initiated!

C. (PNAM Success Story - 2003)

navane 04-25-2003 05:37 PM

Hi MelodyCat!

Congratulations, you've come to the right place!

I am one of the veteran PNAMs here at GC. In case you are wondering "PNAM" stands for "Potential New Alumna Member". :)

There are loads of people here who can offer you advice and support and cheer you on while you go for it.

The fact that you previously pledged a MCGLO is irrelevant in my opinion.

Please do browse through this forum and check out the various threads regarding AI. CutiePie2000 has already given you links to some of them.

In addition, there are a handful of people like me who are more than happy to discuss this with you in private if you like. Please do not hesitate to PM me if you have any questions or just want to chatter away about it! :)


PNAM,

.....Kelly :)

MelodyCat 08-29-2003 11:47 AM

I'm bumping my old thread (after three months of lurker status!) because I do have a small update to make. I contacted the Executive Office of Group #1 this morning, so I'm hoping to hear back from them soon.

I've expanded my search to three organizations, as well. :)

I think maybe I'll call them by the names of candy bars: Twix, Snickers, and Butterfinger. Mmm, chocolate. :D So, by that logic, I emailed Twix this morning.

tinydancer 08-29-2003 12:00 PM

TOO CUTE, Melody!!! Welcome to the PNAMs and good luck with Twix!!!


Lizz (PNAM tinydancer)

LouisaMay 08-29-2003 12:01 PM

Congratulations on this first big step. How exciting! We're in this together, so stay in touch.

LM

MelodyCat 08-29-2003 09:28 PM

I went out for the evening and came home to an email from Twix's Executive Office. EO gave me the contact info for the president of the local alumnae chapter, so I'm going to send her an email and see where things go from here. :) Wish me luck!

SmartBlondeGPhB 08-30-2003 12:06 AM

Good Luck and please let any of us know if we can help.........

Aphigurl 08-30-2003 12:33 AM

Melody,

I wish you continued Good Luck in your AI journey.:) Hopefully you will from Group #1 soon.;)

bsp-mich24 09-01-2003 01:14 PM

Good Luck in your AI search!!!:)

GPhiBLtColonel 09-02-2003 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SmartBlondeGPhB
Good Luck and please let any of us know if we can help.........
Ditto what Melanie says -- check out this thread as well:

http://forums.greekchat.com/gcforums...threadid=37706


Let us know if we can do anything OK?:)

MelodyCat 09-04-2003 02:15 PM

I've heard from Twix's local alumnae chapter president! We're trying to make plans to meet for coffee. :) The first big alumnae chapter event is Founder's Day celebration in October, and she said I might be able to come to that. I'm really excited! :D

SmartBlondeGPhB 09-04-2003 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MelodyCat
The first big alumnae chapter event is Founder's Day celebration in October, and she said I might be able to come to that. I'm really excited! :D
THAT narrows it down.........

GeekyPenguin 09-04-2003 02:37 PM

That does narrow it down! Here's the NPC orgs founded in October:
  • ACW
  • AEF
  • AF
  • DZ
  • KD
  • KKG
  • ZTA

Now we just need to figure out who among those orgs does AI. :)

Edited to add that I got this information from my GFB history book so it should all be accurate.

Ginger 09-04-2003 02:56 PM

I think all of them do, except for Kappa and ZTA (without an extenuating circumstance)

PenguinTrax 09-04-2003 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ginger
I think all of them do, except for Kappa and ZTA (without an extenuating circumstance)
ZTA does alumnae initiation - I helped organize one about 2 years ago.

Ginger 09-04-2003 03:59 PM

I stand corrected!

sugar and spice 09-04-2003 04:07 PM

AEPhi doesn't do alum initiation either.

Kappa just did their first AI, I think, but I don't think it's going to become very common in their organization, at least not right away.

ZTA does, but I think it's rare . . . at least in comparison with some of the other groups like Alpha Phi or Gamma Phi Beta.

GPhiBLtColonel 09-04-2003 06:04 PM

I bet it's Alpha Phi!!!

SmartBlondeGPhB 09-04-2003 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GPhiBLtColonel
I bet it's Alpha Phi!!!
LOL

That was what I was going to say too. I was actually going to say:

"Those of us who've been on the boards a while can probably make a REALLY good guess on this one".

ajuhdg 09-04-2003 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
That does narrow it down! Here's the NPC orgs founded in October:
  • ACW
  • AEF
  • AF
  • DZ
  • KD
  • KKG
  • ZTA

Now we just need to figure out who among those orgs does AI. :)

Edited to add that I got this information from my GFB history book so it should all be accurate.

Okay, not to throw you off too much more y'all....but DG was founded in December, however, we celebrate Founder's Day in March! I don't know if that changes those groups too much!

aj

MelodyCat 09-04-2003 09:27 PM

Wow, all these guesses. . .I can neither confirm nor deny a guess. I've found out one of the officers for the local alumnae group for Twix is here on GC, so I'd rather keep things quiet for now. I love that everyone's having fun with it, though. :)

pinkyphimu 09-04-2003 10:03 PM

melody- good luck with your choices! i hope you have a blast at your event!!!

LouisaMay 09-05-2003 04:44 PM

I'm so excited for you, Melody! I just ate a KitKat...is that one of your choices?;)

LM

MelodyCat 09-06-2003 06:34 PM

Wish me luck - I'm meeting the co-presidents of Twix's local alumnae group tomorrow. I'm stressing out over what to wear! I'm thinking a pair of dressy brown pants with a nice brown and burnt orange diagonally striped blouse, but I'm also considering a knee-length black skirt with a pink floral print and a pink top. I just know I'll change my clothes 5000 times before walking out the door!

GeekyPenguin 09-06-2003 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MelodyCat
Wish me luck - I'm meeting the co-presidents of Twix's local alumnae group tomorrow. I'm stressing out over what to wear! I'm thinking a pair of dressy brown pants with a nice brown and burnt orange diagonally striped blouse, but I'm also considering a knee-length black skirt with a pink floral print and a pink top. I just know I'll change my clothes 5000 times before walking out the door!
I think you should dress in Twix's colors (and if brown is one of their colors, my complements on your choice of sorority ;)). Seriously, either of those outfits sound good - but where is the meeting? That will help pick outfits.

MelodyCat 09-07-2003 05:51 PM

I finally settled on nice khakis and my favorite pink top for this afternoon - which went wonderfully. :) I met the co-presidents of the local alumnae group, and they were so warm and welcoming - I felt right at home talking with them. I'm really looking forward to future events with them!

DZHBrown 09-08-2003 11:02 PM

A pink shirt for a DZ meeting would be great! :D
Seriously though, good luck where ever you are going!!

DZHBrown 09-09-2003 10:30 PM

I thought APhi was founded in September? :confused:

Jill1228 09-16-2003 03:02 AM

http://www.superbabies.homestead.com/files/poke.gif

How did the meeting go?

MelodyCat 09-16-2003 11:39 AM

I thought I'd posted that already. Jill, do you have a good "OOPS!" smiley?

It went super-well. :) I hit it off great with the co-presidents of the local alumnae group. We actually lost track of time because we were so deep into conversation. I'm excited about the event next month, but I wish it was sooner!

MelodyCat 10-19-2003 04:50 PM

I finally have an update. :) I went to brunch with several ladies from the alum chapter, another PNAM, and one of Twix's regional coordinators. It was so much fun, and I'm really looking forward to future events with them. :)

Celestia*Shine 11-10-2003 02:18 AM

any updates???
 
Hello! I have been reading up on your posts! I was wondering if you had any updates??!! I am excited to hear about your search as I have just begun mine!

MelodyCat 11-10-2003 03:04 PM

A couple of weeks ago I went on another outing with Twix - wine tasting. I've met more people, and everyone's been really welcoming and friendly. I've felt right at home.

I can't really say much else right now, but I'm happy with how things have gone thus far. :)


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