greeks on mtv's dismissed
 

they put 2 fraternity brothers up against each other for a girl, and 2 sorority sisters from dg at pepperdine university up against each other for a guy. anyone else see it?

Yeah, I did. Once again, MTV made me want to hide the fact that I'm Greek. Heh

Those girls were so disturbing

When people go on TV on something like this and advertise their sorority/fraternity and appear in a not so great light, do their National/International offices reprimand them?

Oh that's nothing dude...I was watching a special of Girls Gone Wild on VH1 and one of the girls in it was a member of Alpha Chi Omega. Now..that's bad image..

tsk...tsk...
 

i saw it...
how can you justify it?
i don't get it.

I believe that they actually do have that ability. I was talking last week with an individual who serves on the national board of her women's fraternity and they were discussing this issue recently with the advent of "reality" tv.

They were concerned with an alumnae's actions on a reality tv program who happened to be wearing (or wore) letters during the taping, and are currently considering revocation or sanctions of some type to this individual because of her behavior and bad representation of the group.

Danielle,
I know that DG makes it pretty clear that they don't want us going on certain TV programs, and they specify which ones on the National Website:

"April 1, 2003

It has come to the attention of Delta Gamma Executive Offices that Zilo Networks is in the process of contacting sorority chapters across the country to hold promotional viewing parties for Fox's program American Idol and AT&T Wireless.

Be advised that no collegiate chapter of Delta Gamma Fraternity should participate in this promotional request from Zilo Networks. Delta Gamma and all other National Panhellenic Conference groups are united in their opposition to this appeal. If you are contacted by the entertainment and marketing company, please notify the staff Director of Public Relations Whitney Scully at whitney@deltagamma.org immediately.

http://www.deltagamma.org/zilo.html"

Also:
They want us to steer clear of "Sorority Life" too.
http://www.deltagamma.org/mtv_sorority_life.html

The Daily Mississippian also had an article about DG at Ole Miss being chosen to be on a sorority edition of MTV's Cribs, but I am not sure whether EO consented to it or not (I am thinking not....)
Go here

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? Don't worry, we do have pretty strict rules about this. That pisses me off.
Sorry, but how hard is it to find something to wear that doesn't have your letters on it? Or how hard is it to keep your mouth shut?
Better yet, how hard is it to keep your legs closed, considering you really shouldn't be doing that stuff on tv anyway???!!

I know Kappa is strict about that.
Our recent newsletter reminded us to not even wear our letters during spring break.

I betcha it was Zeta and they were referring to when that ZETA swimsuit model stripped on a Survivor challenge and they had to have the fuzzy images across her upper and lower you-know-wheres!:eek:

This Zeta actually says in her Survivor bio that she brought her Zeta crown as her luxury item (oh that is useful!) and she has worn several Zeta items of clothing on the show thus far -- when she chose to wear clothing that is ;)

I remember two episodes ago on Amazing Race there was a brother and sister team from Texas and the sister wore her Kappa tee shirt several times -- she was not that bad actually so I guess it was OK...

I was actually wondering about that. Like i've said in a couple other threads, I went to high school with that girl, and she goes to Pitt. She was a ZTA at Duquesne, but she transferred up the street (literally) here to Pitt, which has no ZTA chapter, so she's not an active undergrad. I don't know what action they can take against her.

She definately has done a lot of getting naked and saying things that I wouldn't be kosher with. Of course it could wind up being GOOD PR for Zeta b/c she has very good odds of winning.

I think a problem is generally these girls are still undergrad or very recently out and don't understand the bigger world of their sorority and the greek system outside of their little bubble. Yes, I fall in that age group, but I feel that I know a lot more than the average greek in my position thanks to GC and my alumnae involvement.

naaaaaahhhh!
 

naaaaah, I don't think Jenna getting naked alot is good PR for Zeta -- I wonder what older Zetas like nhfulmer think?

and second naaaaaaaaaah, Jenna is not going to win! I am voting for Christy or Butch!;)

There was a PiPhi on this installmant of Survivor too -- Shawna or something like that -- she's gone already -- too whiney (another bad impression IMHO)

So does Alpha Delta Pi. In fact, if I remember correctly, one cannot legally use the name Alpha Delta Pi in any media without permission from EO. Must be the same concept of a lady appearing in print only upon birth, marriage, and death! ;)

honeychile

for those who missed it --- they are showing it again right now 11:00 pm central time

Behavior wise they were tame, but man were they annoying idiots. It was every stereotype you could think of wrapped into one ditzy package(well, 2 ditzy packages!)

isn't there some dating show on MTV that constantly features greeks? the one where you see the comments from their friends or "fraternity brothers" or "sorority sisters" as it often says? anyone know what I'm talking about?

enlightenment06....
I think you are talking about Tail Daters. The show doesn't usually focus only on Greeks. But a lot of the friends commenting are fraternity brothers or sorority sisters. However, it is not a Greek only show.

I plead the fifth out of respect ;)
-o.p.i.e.

Girls Gone Wild
 

"Oh that's nothing dude...I was watching a special of Girls Gone Wild on VH1 and one of the girls in it was a member of Alpha Chi Omega. Now..that's bad image.."

That was filmed at my school, and one of the girls who was followed by VH1 was one of my Bro's gfs. The AXO who was on the show is no longer part of the house, or so I have been told by many AXOs.

This Relates
 

Okay...not ment to offend (and I have taken out the name of the sorority from the posted article). But this relates to the members doing questionable things on camera....most definately...AND doesn't help the school that much either (one of my alma mater's btw)...and no, I do not know or remember this girl....although we apparently graduated together. You have to read to the end (or skip there) to see how it relates...if you can stand reading that much.....here goes.



From Panther to pornstar to public relations

By Ben Erwin

Calli Cox, a 1999 Eastern graduate, parlayed her middle level education degree into a lucrative career in the adult film industry and currently works public relations for Shane’s World.

Taking her place alongside the likes of Oscar-nominated actress Joan Allen, folk legend Burl Ives and Steppenwolf Theater co-founder John Malkovich in the pantheon of famous Eastern alumni, Calli Cox made a name for herself not in music or the stage, but in the world of adult cinema.

An Eastern graduate in 1999, Cox - who chose to go solely by her stage moniker for the sake of her family's privacy - initially intended to parlay her degree in middle level education into a job as a teacher until fate, and an amateur exotic dancing competition at Diamond Cabaret in East St. Louis, intervened. Although Cox finished her degree, and even taught for a year at Effingham junior high and substitute taught for a year at an Urbana high school, she supplemented her educating income by working at clubs during summers off.

Performing at gentlemen's clubs in Centerville and Champaign, Cox used her summer income to support her "low teacher salary." She said being in front of club audiences had similarities to teaching a classroom full of students.

"My first time stripping was very nerve racking to say the least," she said.

However, it didn't take long for confidence to build. "It's easy to be up in front of lots of people when they are all cheering for you and telling you wonderful things, but it's not so easy when you teach school for the first time.

"I was very nervous about that," she said. "Those kids don't have to like you, (and) a lot of them won't like you."

Cox's first break came courtesy of Playboy's popular syndicated series "Night Calls," where she was given a scene-stealing role on the show. "I was a huge fan of the show and I E-mailed them pictures one day," she said of "Night Calls." "While in Los Angeles for the show, I met an agent in the business and stayed in touch with him."

A break comes courtesy of "Night Calls":

With her role on "Night Calls," Cox received the notoriety, and ultimately the change in career, she desired. Explaining this new career, however, was a different matter. Although her dancing was accepted by her friends and family, Cox had concerns that her newfound roles in adult film may not be taken with the same aplomb.

"No parent wants to hear that their child is doing pornography," she said. "However, I have to give them a lot of respect for dealing with it as well as they have."

The reaction by friends was similar as Cox's friends from college echoed her family's sentiment. Michael Garrard, a biology major and 1993 graduated of Eastern, had known Cox before she was known as Calli in the industry and the pair have been friends since childhood in Robinson.

"It was so gradual that it wasn't as shocking as it might sound," Garrard said. "I can look back and it sounds like a stretch, but as it was happening, it didn't seem strange."

A self-described "dork" in high school, Cox has consistently eschewed stereotypes of her industry and has always been considered intelligent and sweet by those who know her. "She was always in the smart crowd," Garrard said.

"She went out for track and was even a little shy in a typical high school way. She's always been really smart and perceptive."

After the job with "Night Calls" and the acceptance of her family, Cox moved to Los Angeles in February 2001 with the help of the agent she made contacts with in her dealings with Playboy. Cox's next step was to establish a stage name for herself within the industry and chose Calli because of her new found residence in the Golden state and Cox because, in her words, "it just fit."

As for her introduction into the industry, Cox was unsure exactly what her roles would entail or how to handle herself in profession she was relatively unfamiliar with.

Breaking into the adult film industry:

"I honestly didn't know what to expect," she said. "I hadn't watched a lot of adult films, and when I started in the industry, I had an agent who explained nothing to me. I didn't know any of the terminology, I had no idea things would take so long, and I wasn't sure how people would treat me."

Despite these initial misgiving and uncertainty, Cox has appeared in more than 200 features and has been awarded numerous accolades in her field. In 2001 she was nominated for Best New Starlet by Adult Video News and was awarded best newcomer by Adult Stars Magazine. Cox is also nominated for Performer of the Year by the aforementioned Adult Video News in 2003.

While Cox said she enjoyed performing in films, her passion now lies behind the camera as she was offered a public relations position at Shane's World in August 2002.

Shane's World is one of America's leaders in the adult film industry and has found a profitable niche marketing videos and appearances to college students. Cox now works in public relations as well as writing talent bios, working company promotions or traveling with Shane's World on shoots across the country.

From pornstar to public relations:

Explaining the impetus for the career switch to public relations, Cox said she needed a change from the hectic schedule as a performer and wanted to try something new. Because of her existing connections in the industry, she hooked up with owner of Shane's World, Jennie Grant. "Her work ethic, background in teaching and personality made her a good fit behind the camera," Grant said of Cox's hiring. "She's the best. She's always willing to pitch in or go the extra mile and is on top of everything she does."

It was also Cox who went to bat for the company when Shane's World became embroiled in a lawsuit over a movie the company shot at Indiana University. While Shane's World had previously shot movies featuring the company's roster of starlets performing with college students on college campuses, the case with Indiana University garnered a great deal of publicity and controversy.

"We like to party with college students and give them the opportunity to be involved in our videos if they so choose," Cox said. "We decided to go to Indiana because it was ranked the No.1 party school in the nation."

"Needless to say, the AP wires picked up the story that we had filmed an adult video there and the media went crazy," she continued. "There was an investigation through the university to see if we had committed any illegal acts, but we didn't. The only thing that has happened since is high sales!"

Although Cox said Shane's World typically comes to schools that invite the company, there is still a bit of notoriety associated with the event, and she said controversy isn't necessarily the norm. While many people see the adult film world as "seedy," Cox stressed this is typically not the case.

"Although there are people and parts of the industry that are 'seedy,' you can find those bad apples anywhere," she said. "I can say that drugs do not run rampant on sets, girls aren't made to do anything they don't want to and the majority of the people in my industry genuinely enjoy what they do."

Looking back at Eastern and *sorority edited by opie*:

With her latest change in career, however, Cox sees herself in a stable position in the industry and looks back fondly on the people she knew while attending Eastern. Although her education served her well, Cox said she especially remembers her year as a member of *edited by opie *sorority.

"I was only in the house for a little over a year," she said of her experiences with *sorority edited by opie*. "I had a lot of fun with the girls. I made some good friends and experienced some things that I'll never forget."

Cox has even become a piece of *edited by opie* lore as many who have seen her films have noticed the *edited by opie* she has tattooed on her posterior. Although no members of *edited by opie* agreed to comment about Cox on record for this piece, they acknowledge she was once a member.

Cox appears to be looking toward the future in the industry in which she has made many friends and is fondly mentioned by those who knew her before her name change or notoriety in the business.

"People assume (people) in the business have nothing else or that they have to use their bodies because they can't do anything else and that's definitely not her," Garrard's wife Kelly commented. "She's a fun, sweet person and unless she told you, most people would have no idea what she did for a living."

This sentiment was echoed by Grant, saying: "She's really smart. She's very warm and kind and doesn't always necessarily get credit for that. She goes for whatever she wants and she puts all of her energy into what she's doing ... and is unafraid to learn anything new.

Looking toward the future:

As for what the future holds, Cox is simply content to continue her public relations job at Shane's World and make the most of her opportunities.

"I really like the job I am currently performing," she said. "I can see myself staying around the industry for awhile; staying behind the camera. After that, I can't say."

http://www.thedailyeasternnews.com/news/420954.html

oh boy. i bet her sorority is P!SSED

*shaking her head sadly*

Oh, the feminist rant I could place here. But one question comes to mind again and again......"WHY???!!!" :mad:

Honestly, what the heck did this woman being in a sorority have anything to do with the article???????????? And so much that it was necessary to NAME the sorority?

Just doing a search there are tons of articles about her and she never fails to mention her sorority and shows of he sorority letters tattoo. Her national headquaters should crack down on her.

Honestly though- what COULD they do?

First, the tattoo of her sorority letters- does any sorority allow this? KD sure doesn't.

But again, what can they do about it? The same for any sorority/fraternity alumni who is vocal about being in XYZ group at the same time as doing something like this?

They don't have any real legal basis to go on...... they can revoke their membership. But so what? Most of those people aren't active and it doesn't mean anything to them anyway.

I know we don't allow tattooing of letters or crest - we had to ask our PCD because one of our sisters adamantly wants to do it. If I ever got a GPhi tattoo, I would get a crescent moon, or the Hebrew from our badge, or something that wouldn't automatically let the whole world know what sorority I was in should I do something stupid.

Re: This Relates
 

:eek:

EXCUSE ME??? What the hell school actually invites them to film porno on their campus? Just because some students write them and tell them they should make one on their campus, that does not constitute an invitation from the school!

I don't think all NPC sororities have rules against sorority tattoos. Some do have rules against them, some outlaw only the letters and/or the crest, some just don't want them in places where they can't be covered up during questionable activities (drinking in "letters" or things like that).

I'm not sure what Tri Delta's rules on it are, since I have no desire to get a tattoo of anything, let alone my letters.

This might make an interesting topic though. I know KappaKittyCat has a Kappa tattoo, so KKG must not have rules against it . . . how many other sororities don't?

yeah yeah that's the show! I know it doesn't focus on greeks but it seems like everytime I come across the somebody greek is on there. thanks, I was wondering which show it was.

That just ain't right!!!
 

I think that it is just disgusting when people advertise their greek affiliation in a negative way. There is nothing wrong with being proud of what you are, but there is a line. They are just making themselves and their entire organization look bad. I am not sure about KD's rules on all of this, but I can tell you that we aren't even supposed to wear letters to a bar. Gee, I wonder what they would say about a dating show????

Tattoos
 

I checked it out in response to sugar and spices thread. Kappa Delta does not allowed to have the crest, badge, words, or greek letters KD tattooed on the body. So, we are one of those that doesn't allow it. Dani was right!!!

Haha, a guy from the AEPi chapter on my campus actually went on Dismissed...he was dismissed. I don't think he went on the one where he'd be paired against a brother though.

A girl in my chapter got called to be on Taildaters, but she said no. Another one of my girls tried out for American Idol, she didn't make it too far, but she wasn't insulted or anything (she has an amazing voice).

DG
 

A Delta Gamma from ASU was on Dismissed. She was the dismisser. Shes one of my friends and when the guy got dismissed he yelled at her, i made fun of her about it...

they put my roomate (an sae) up against 2 roomates (a pi phi and an axo) and it turns out that the axo's big sis has a huge crush on my roomate and has told her that hes "off limiits" and she tells him that on the show. and my roomate says on dismmissed that its BS that she did that. it was pretty funny

i definitely saw the IU porn a month or two after i had left IU, and had joined AXO. i first saw her and said "are those greek letters?!" and later there was (unfortunately) a close up and i could see them clearly. needless to say, i was beyond shocked when i saw ms cox letters tattooed on her butt. my jaw dropped and i was walking around going "OMG. i cant believe shes a member of *sorority*!! the boyfriend (now ex) said "hey. shes got pride in her sorority" i just looked at him, and rolled my eyes. oy.

roxydiva

You saw my TV appearance?! :p ;)

Kidding of course! It never fails to amaze me that some people cannot wait to put on letters and make such an a$$ of themselves!!!

Still isn't as bad as Nicole promising to "dyke it out" with Brooke at semi-formal though!! :rolleyes:

I don't know if anyone has answered this for you yet - but I'll let you in on some things. Trichelle from the Real World was a Chi Omega at my school. Her nationals forbid her for wearing any kind of letters on TV. Also, after her uhm, scandaless actions on the show - her pin got taken away.

I don't know if it is like that for all GLO, but I know one of the girls from the past Road Rules was a Kappa Kappa Gamma. She never displayed it on TV, but on her MTV profile, she mentioned about how tough her life was until she found her way into Kappa Kappa Gamma and became a sister.

I think for the most part, if you are on any kind of show that isn't viewed in the most professional light, you aren't supposed to flaunt your letters.