Pin Numbers
 

Does anyone have one? If you do, can you call pin on other people? My boyfriend's fraternity does. If you have a lower pin number than the other person you can call "pin" and tell them to do things for you. Of course, calling pin cannot be taken out of hand for it to cause trouble or hazing. Things like giving up your seat, fetching the beer, moving the car, etc. Supposedly, you can't call pin on your own pledge class members, only those after your class.

Re: Pin Numbers
 

That would be kind of cool, my pin number is one lol. We don't have a tradition where seniority counts. People just do what I ask them to do because its me asking.

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That's how ours works. You can call it for something small, but not something with set rules like calling shotgun.

And, yeah, you can't call it on your own pledge class which sucks.

We did it as kind of a joke, but it wasn't an official thing.

We have what you would call "pin" numbers...since our chapter name is Alpha Tau, we call them AT's and you can pull "AT" on someone...

We don't have rules about doing it within your own pledge class, but it's one of those things that you know what you can get away with. Usually tends to happen more between pledges and Actives, and probably most during the first month of school in order to demonstrate to the pledges what their real situation is.

Usually AT is used most for shotgun, but I (and most guys) have a rule in my car that if there is one of my pledge brothers is riding, he automatically gets shotgun. If there's more than one than normal shotgun rules apply.

Other than that AT is used primarily for room picks and parking spots in our back lot.

i'm confused, is this something like seniority?

Yeah, if someone pledged before you, then their number of when they joined will be higher. Like I'm 109,345. My bruh in the class before me is 108,993. He can call pin on me. I can call pin on a later class.

Kind of, but like for people in your pledge class it is assigned by some other method. We use a point system involving GPA, involvement, community service hours, attendance at events, scores on song and lore tests, and intramurals. After the Honor Pledge (who is selected by the chapter as the pledge who had best exemplified the principles of Beta Theta Pi) the numbering goes by points as to is initiated first. My pledge class is from 2050 to 2073. I'm 2063.

We have pin numbers, except we call it bond number, and it was the number you were to be initiated into the chapter. When a pledge class is initiated, the highest GPA goes first, hence, getting the lower bond number.

My bond # is 1304, meaning I was the 1,304 person initiated into the Gamma-Nu chapter of Kappa Sig.

Oh, ours is the national number

Re: Pin Numbers
 

Yuppers, only we call it "Badge". We can't call badge on anyone in our pledge class either (Which sucks, cuz I'm highest in my pledge class!!!), but right now I'm technically alumae, so I can call it on anyone (but I don't :p)...Also, Theta Xi here did the same thing.. Kappa Kappa chapter, so they'd call Kappa Kappa on each other. It gets pretty funny :p

My roster number is 814. (Or as National Headquaters puts it, 024-0814 -- 024 being the numeric designation for Alpha Alpha Chapter.) The only time roster number seniority comes into play in Alpha Sigma Phi is for ritualistic recognition purposes I'm not at liberty to discuss in an open forum.

Same with us, but we call it "pin order."

When I was still an undergrad we did it for about the first 3 years but it got abused so everyone stopped honoring it.

I 'pull pin' sometimes just for asinine stuff like shotgun:D

I got a pretty cool badge # actually. It's 5.

My chapter is Mu Tau.. so if you take the roman numeral V...

I'm MTV :D

Maybe it's cause Im blazed, but dude, that's f*cked up. Shotgun is a sacred tradition. lol

I agree with Stan. Shotgun has a whole set of rules of it's own. Don't f#$^ with shotgun rules!

We have ritual #s (same thing)

They go alphabetical by iniation date. I am 499...

We can call ritual on anyone lower than us, but not in our class. But we only use it in cases that we need to get that sister to listen to us (someone being a complete a$$ and unPhiSig like, drunk and not listening, etc) Sometimes we will do it jokingly - but ONLY if the other person knows were joking around.

Yeah, we have pin rules too. Mostly used if there's a pin higher than you in a chair you want, or to make someone get another beer for the cooler or somethin like that.

You can't call it on your pledge bros here either. It really sucked because when i pledged i had a really rough semester and ended up with the lowest grades in my pledge class, hence i was assigned highest pin. So for a whole semester i had the highest pin in the frat, it was almost like bein a pledge all over. Although, now i'm halfway up the list and pull pin like it's goin outta style. :D

Our pins are just our chapter designation (Kappa Sigma) and then the number of initiate into our chapter we were. I usually 'tag' my stuff with my pin #, so guys know who's it is, but people outside our chapter think we're Kappa Sigs if they see it.

oh, and if y'all haven't guessed, whenever we send emails down our chapter listserve, we sign it with our pin numbers. that's where i got the idea for my sig line.

Kitso
KS 361 times i've pullled pin on KS 362, just because i can

We call it Ritual since it's by our chapter ritual number, which we hold in very high regard in my chapter, as you notice I use it in my GC handle. It's for smaller stuff, usually can't be called on your pledge class and you can always deny it if you really object to it or think it was out of line. I guess this only works for orgs that assign numbers a certain way. Like ours is final test score order and then the number of no votes you get for your second bid. I know some orgs jsut give ritual numbers by alphabetical order in a pledge class.

Oh, and we also have something called degree, along the same lines only it goes by your degree in the brotherhood. We have 6 degrees, 1st is the undergrad initiate, 2nd are those elected to symbolic office(E-Board), 3rd are alumni members initiated as undergrads, 4th are those oppointed to positions by Grand Council or Grand President, 5th those Elected to Grand Council, and 6th are All of the Grand Presidents. We use degree only with the first 3.

Heh..my boyfriend's fraternity hollers out "Low Scroll", basically the same thing you all are talking about :) It gets pretty interesting that's for sure. There are some rules to it, but I'm not sure what they all are. I know one is that you can't low scroll someone in you pledge class....that's all I can remember for now.

PSK480:

I am a 4th Degree Brother since I was a Chapter Advisor. I got my medallion at Leadership Convention in 1998. My pin # is 2021, but I think because we were an Epsilon chapter we started over at 2000. I know we had 700+ alumni, but there was no way we had over 2000+ before my initiation, so I think they started all of the Epsilon chapters over at 2000 after the merger in '85. Consequently I am the 21st initiate of my chapter after the Phi Sigma Epsilon-Phi Sigma Kappa merger.

We don't do anything like this. We don't even have pin numbers.

But it would be cool if we did, since my pin number (within my chapter) would be 2... ;)

I have never heard of this, but it sounds a little silly. Our pin numbers are assigned (within pledge class) by alpha order. It sounds to me like just like older members power tripping.

BSU: were you chapter advisor at Ball State? Our chapter advisor is one of our alumni from here at clarion. We have a few 4th degree brothers but most of them are of the older group so they just show up for a weekend to act like college kids again.

Do you know how many Epsilon Chapters actually mergered? I know 7 went off and formed Phi Sigma Phi and at my school half of them merged and the other half formed a Phi Sigma which was a local.

I wish we did, but thats because I am #2. But if I bring that up, I will hear "who does number 2 work for?"

This happens in all Phi Delta Theta chapters. Every man has a "Bond" number. So you can call "bond" on anyone with a higher number than you are. It is only for simple things and you can't do it within your own pledge class.

pulling rank
 

our chapter (and just about all beta chapters in some way or another) uses the the roll number as a standard. you can pull seniority on anyone who has a higher number than you although it rarely is used within the same pledge class. typically this is done by seniors or juniors to freshman pledges and new initiates. we also have something called "knoxing" which follows the same system. If a brother with a lower roll number knox's another brother, then the guy who got knox'd has to chug his drink immediately.

Yes, Beta's do have and use Roll Numbers. I think that within Beta at least, it is used in fun ways like getting someone to shut up. You know, when a brother is rambling on for minutes on end, all you say is "Hey punkass, whats your roll number? Yeah, thats what I thought, sit your ass down". I rarely see it get as far as making someone give you their seat or fetching food for them. Its mainly just goofy shit. But then again, thats my chapter.

That's a pretty sweet # though.

When most people are up in the 1000's at your national events, it is fun to have a single digit number.

At least in my chapter, we didn't have that. Once someone is initiated, she's equal in every way to the rest of the chapter.

My boyfriend's chapter does that... but it's for little things.. and they also have 'office' over another person... like for example, if the VP was the VP and had a lower initation number than say the recording secretary, that was like a double-whammy.. hehehe.. they are silly guys

Sometimes people call low badge on me and I'm like "shut up"

We call it scrolling, and we don't do it anymore, sometimes as a joke we still say it, but the person doesn't have to do what you say.

We also call it scrolling (we got it from TKE and Delta Sig) but we'll only do it jokingly...I don't think anyone has ever obeyed scroll. And I agree - scroll cannot mess with shotgun! Somebody tried to scroll me out of shotgun yesterday and I was not having it! :)

Re: Hazing
 

I wouldn't consider it hazing unless it was taken seriously. In our chapter, we'll jokingly do it on obscene things...I've been known to "scroll" people to go do my COBOL homework - they obviously aren't going to do it, nor do I really want them to. My roommate did scroll me to get out of bed one day, I think that's the only time I've ever listened. :)

We've abandoned the practice, but our number still shows up on our address labels for our magazine. No one ever made a big deal out of it, though.

honeychile

What are pin numbers to be exact?

Badge #'s -- usually they indicate the order in which you were initiated. Some organizations keep them by chapter, such as mine, I belong to the Mu Tau chapter of Sigma Nu and was the 5th person initiated into the chapter. Therefore, my badge # is MT 5.

Some other organizations go by national #...

we try to bust it out every now and then, but it's always done in a joking manner....like, "roll number, biotch, get outta my seat" (aka: the corner on the couch)...no one ever plays along. although....one time i pulled it on one of my sisters for shot gun....and i didn't think she would do it b/c at this point she'd been in for a while, but she was like, "oh! ok!"....i got in the front seat giggling while the sister driving just shook her head.....we both told her if she ever let somene call roll number on her again we'd kick her in her teef. :) sisterly love.....ain't it great?