Is it just me? A SgRho Dilemma
 

You know what? one thing I can say about GC is that we are pretty peaceful here.

But I have to comment on something that is only talked about on the PM. Cause I can't take it anymore.

I'm TIRED TIRED TIRED of tip toeing around the Sigma Gamma Rho's! For real.

I'm tired of SOME of you saying we don't make you welcome on the other boards

I'm tired of SOME of you making snide comments to us and we dont say any damn thing, but when someone who isn't worth two chits makes a thread about DST/AKA. It's an all out war and "hey what about me?" WHO CARES!:rolleyes:

I'm tired of giving my HONEST opinion about what we call the SgRho's in cali, and how we call the Sigmas "Sigmas" and getting a PM like this:

Knowledge1922
Member



Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 87
SIGMA
who are you to tell me or my sorority of almost 80 years what we shold be referred to ??

We are SIGMA women.
Just because who ever brought you in did not properly inform you does not give you the right to inflict your ignorance.

Ok THETA?


What the hell ever!!!!:rolleyes: You WISH you were brought in like me.

I'm tired of threads like this:
http://forums.greekchat.com/gcforums...threadid=27289

or someone having the NERVE to post this:

quote:
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Originally posted by counting

But at least we can say most of our members join to work for the sorority, not to decorate the world with their pink, green, crimson, and creme colors.
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And not expect anyone to respond! You got a lotta damn nerve!

TIRED TIRED TIRED!!!

So this thread is to simply say WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? Cause I think I know what it is, but I will hold off until I get some responses.


QTE

OD - original dilemma
 

I can and will only speak for the post I made on a
'A Delta Delimma' in the SGR forum.

When I first discovered GC there was a thread on sorority pins on e-bay. In the bunch of pins I noticed two or three DST pins. I sincerely thought I was helping y'all out by alerting DST members in your forum. Then I go back to check and without warning or EXPLANATION my post was deleted. I was a bit pi$$ed because like I said, I thought you all wanted to know.

I went to my SoRHOrs and asked them on the SGR board what was going on. I felt that I could get a straight and honest answer about the situation from them, and I did. Then further in the post CT4 I think, finally gave me an explanation. I thanked her AND MOVED ON!!!! (Note: I posted this last year).

If you really want to read some isht, go to the ZPB forum and read read the thread on 'Zeta Phi Gamma'. For what ever reason REIKI went off on me. I tried the polite answer, then the 'fight fire with fire answer', then I just said, which is true, that I respect her opinion. NOBODY SAID A THING ABOUT HER/HIS BEHAVIOR/LANGUAGE to another GC member.

Honestly, I think it is in bad taste to bring this up like this. It seems very petty. I can think of some awful things I've heard about DST, AKA, ZPB, DDD, DZ, KAT, AXO, XO, AGD, ........ get the picture:rolleyes: . You don't have to be creative to be nasty.

If you have received some hot PMs then keep them there!!!!! That is one reason to PM people!!

Re: OD - original dilemma
 

You need to reread your thread, because I was the FIRST to reply. My response remains the same. We have had 80111 threads about a pin on Ebay and to start another was not necessary. What can we do about it on GC? We do not have a GC discretionary fund to buy DST pins on Ebay. 'Preciate the sisterly gesture but there is nothing we can do about every pin on GC.

Re: Re: OD - original dilemma
 

Thank you again. Like I said, at the time I was new to GC and did not know the rules.

Re: OD - original dilemma
 

Well I am a member of neither DST nor SGRho, so I am not sure how credible my statements are in that regard...but I am a longtime member of GC and, having observed this little phenomenon, I feel I can offer a somewhat viable opinion.

sigmadiva, I just read Reiki's posts over at ZPhiB, and I found them to be completely out of line (and I posted as much). HOWEVER, I don't think that has much to do with THIS particular subject.

As far as the way things were brought up, I don't know that it is in poor taste. Sometimes things have to be harsh or abrasive to get people to think about them.

As for keeping pm's private, well, I am straddling the fence about that one. Since it was posted in public, I have to say I think it was in extremely poor taste to call someone out about their process simply because they posted something that had more to do with regional differences than her opinion.

sigmadiva, I am not disagreeing with you at all, I am just trying to show a different perspective.

Re: Re: OD - original dilemma
 

Thank you for your comments;)

I so agree with the statement above. I'm tired of dodging the issue. We have had threads like "what can we do to unite?" and all that other stuff on here. Because we had conflicts like these and were trying to TACTFULLY resolve the issue.

But not everything in life can be sugar coated. Sometimes we need a jolt and this is why I posted this post.

I am still waiting for replies before I get more into this.


QTE

Aight, from the various forums that I have participated on, this is the only forum where the members of Sigma Gamma Rho irk me.


Some of the GC members of S G RHo have a chip on their shoulder.

Also, they take everything to the US vs. THEM level. For instance, the newest issue of ESSENCE features a member of S G Rho, but why is it that instead of celebrating, a member felt compelled to mention how THEY (non-S G Rho sororities) always have their sorority affiliation mentioned. That is not even true, but even if it were SO THE HECK WHAT. Stop being pissed off that Deltas and AKAs are known on a larger scale in the world. I see that SO MUCH on GC that it is sickening.

One thang I just HAVE to say. I would bet 22 million dollars that some of this would not be such an issue if the frats didn't make some of the comments they make.This was proven in the Kappa thread.

QTE

Just like I said in THAT thread, don't let other's opinions or lack thereof define who you are. Just keep doing what you have been doing in terms of the ideals and premises of your organization.

SHE WENT THERE! ohhhh lawwwwd!
 

Personally (to lighten the mood),

I feel this thread should be under the "awwwwwww hell to da naw. This had me CTFU!"

:D

Re: SHE WENT THERE! ohhhh lawwwwd!
 

:D :D :p

It will have me CTFU if some of the ones in question don't respond, they respond to everything else:rolleyes:


QTE

Re: Re: SHE WENT THERE! ohhhh lawwwwd!
 

:rolleyes:

Hold your breath and wait on it. You see, QTE, this thread is full of drama. And most will take the high road. Be a lady, you see. Not respond to such foolishness. GC is supposed to be lighthearted, and people have better things to do. You see, you have too much time on your hands to even think about this. Let alone post it. It's not that serious, see. I mean, if it's that serious to you, then ok, but it's not going to be that serious to anyone else. Get a life. Not to mention, people have other listservs and message boards that they post on, so GC is simply extra.

:rolleyes:

Like I said, hold your breath and wait on it. ;)

ok, that pm posted by DeltaQte is from a year ago, neo that I was, would be all up in some one's face that called my sorority out the name.


however, here is the PM she had sent, since I see only one part of a pm was sent!


DELTAQTE
Senior Member



Registered: Dec 2000
Posts: 529
Re: SIGMA



quote:
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Knowledge1922 wrote on 04-25-2002 12:47 PM:
who are you to tell me or my sorority of almost 80 years what we shold be referred to ??

We are SIGMA women.
Just because who ever brought you in did not properly inform you does not give you the right to inflict your ignorance.

Ok THETA?

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Thank you for sending this e-mail just to prove my point of showing how low some people can really go and show they ASS when they really want to.

I'm voting at the next convention that we not be referred to as Delta's, but Sigma's. Since we were founded before you and the Sigmas, then that will settle the issue.

(shakes head)

Get a life!


QTE
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D-QTE(Shaunda)
Xi Chi Chapter
Spring 1996
Tre Club/Tail Dog Baby!

head shaking
 

Oh Shaunda, Shaunda, Shaunda!!!
Neo...numba!!! have I not taught you well!!!!:D

why you gotta start all this mess :D...is it really worth it. who cares what other sororities think and say about your opinion.

Ya'll know I'm a semi-silent poster on GC, however I must agree with CT4 and QTE. Since I've been on GC, I've seen the same Us vs Them attitude by the ladies of SGR. I never understood all the funk and to tell you the truth, I really don't care.

we all have OUR own opinion and if you like it, great if no, please don't send me a PM thinking that is going to change my view point. SGR's in CA are very very VERY different from the ones I've me in the DC area, but unless I knew that, I would always think that SGR's were "paper", but that's just me.

let it go ladies..and Shuanda, I'm sending you a PM, let me see what you gonna do :D
:p :p

Re: OD - original dilemma
 

REIKI entering ... leaving ... and ducking for cover ... I am not Greek, just opinionated and educated, so please leave my "name" out of YALLS mess.

Peace. Really.

Re: Re: Re: SHE WENT THERE! ohhhh lawwwwd!
 

This is my point exactly!!!! Why bring up OLD MESS that was settled a lond time ago? Why expose PRIVATE MESSAGES none of us really need to know or care about????:confused: :confused:

Just squash it...let it go...

Well looks like we have something in common! We both saved the PM. Now who's response sounds less hateful, mine or yours?:rolleyes:
I could care less that I showed your PM(laughing snort) and the fact that you were a neo made it even worse.


Hey Ideal!(yeah I knew you were being sarcastic, lol)
Hey Treblk!(miss you!)


Ok so if NO ONE cares, let's end it like this:

No more smart ass/snide comments about my sorority. Because while some of you may not care, I DO CARE. And I take Delta serious. Respect mine and I will respect yours.


And if we are seeing eye to eye on that, then YES we have nothing further to talk about

Ta Ta!

QTE


I fixed your quote code soror:)

thank you soror:D


Non violent Non violent, don't nobody do nuttin don't nobody do nuttin, non violent non violent:D



QTE

Oh my!!
 

This thread is pretty disturbing to me. I know I have been out of touch lately but I really don't like to see things like this. Gosh, I didn't know that some feel like they have to "tip toe" around us SGRhos!

I'm always going to keep it real and make you feel welcomed too. And I do feel welcomed in the Delta forum. I have never had a problem here and hopefully won't in the future. I am comfortable with who I am and what I do. If some of my Sorors make you feel like you have to tip-toe then I am sorry. Please don't make general statements like that. I was one of the first on GC. I have made statements that "tell it like it is" but I do not make general statements about any other organization or forum here on GC. It's called maturity.

That's MY soror...
 

Thank you so much for saying that with such class, Soror BlueReign, and ALWAYS keepin' it real!!!

Go Phi Sig,
TRSimon

Re: Oh my!!
 

It might be disturbing but it needed to be said. I am all for clearing the air. Sometimes friction happens on GC, when it does IF it can be resolved, fine. If not, keep it moving.


BlueReign, I have never had a negative experience with you in the past and I welcome your input, but there are some of your sorors, neos or not, who do not exactly exhibit the maturity that you and some of your other sorors have. One of my favorite GC S G Rhos has been MIA -- JojaPeach. :)

The divisions that happen on GC or any other Internet forum mirror similar divisions that happen in the real world, PLZBLVIT. These divisions are not always the sorority/fraternity ones either.

I have never "tiptoed" around anyone, but my mother and that is ONLY because she is a BLACK BELT in AZZ WHOOPINGS. :p If I don't like something or someone, I just no longer interact with them. I am an outspoken person, as are many of the people on GC, and the way I express myself might not gel with everyone. C'est la vie.

For anyone who felt this thread was in poor taste, **shrug** stuff happens. To those who felt that it should not have been bought up, **shrug** you need to talk about problems to work to eliminate them or at least understand them. To those who think, we don't get along -- We do in some ways, but not all the time. Who does?

Re: OD - original dilemma
 

I'm not going to discuss the original content of this thread cause it's not really any of my business. I just wanted to say, that if you have an issue with the content of posts on the ZPB forum, please REPORT IT, and either I or Shelacious will take care of it. I don't always read every post because I've got my hands full with Chit Chat so sometimes I miss things. TY.

ZA

My take on things
 

Well, I have several comments to make:

1. When posting anything on GC and anywhere else, remember you are a reflection of the organization of which you are a member. That's the first thing!

2. How can we possibly know WHEN we are calling a Sorority out of their name???? Different regions, states, cities, schools, etc. call all of us different "nicknames" if you will. SOOOOOOoo how about a thread on Nicknames. I bet many will be surprised to see what school or region calls nicknames. I had never heard of Reds until I got on GC three or four years ago. Do I like it or use it. No. But that terms is indigitive of a particular era. Not mine, so I move on and try not to make a big deal of it. It's not making me loose sleep at night.

3. Tension is normally very high amongst Greeks and/or GCers who are neos. Neos (especially those in their first year) are eager and respond to things based on emotions and the excitement of being new and wanting to belong and be accepted in the organization and by others. So the thing for us to do is to "train them the way they should go" If your soror or frat is out of line....check 'em...in a nice way of course.

4. Learn something about the other organizations other than just their colors and symbols. Because I can respect the other organizations' causes, I can respect the organization itself. Support their programs and events...not just their parties. At one point, yearrrss ago, I could not understand why some brothers wanted to be Kappas (no disrepect to my brothers of the Krimson and Kreme) but I didn't know anything they did...until one of my best guy friends pledged and started inviting me to some of their public functions. I can appreciate them so much more now that I have an understanding of what they are all about. And I can say that about all of the organizations in the NPHC. I even facilitated a workshop for an undergraduate chapter of SGRHos (which is what they are called where I come from) on 10 easy fundraisers. We can only become united by taking the first step to unite and that is not necessarily by being a Pan Representative or officer.

5. And if all else fails, remember the Golden Rule, do unto others as you would have them do unto you...not do unto others as they do unto you......

...and she's exited the building

Re: That's MY soror...
 

sorry but I did not say all rho's on GC, in fact, I've had some wonderful chats with a few of you, and please read my post before you say I made a "general" statement


There was a reason why I kept putting SOME in caps. Because i would be lying if I said all the Sgrho's on GC.
It needed to be addressed and I know folks know what I'm talking about, hope it woke some people up.

Much GC love,

QTE

I wasn't going to get into this 'cause it ain't my battle, but CT4's post made me change my mind... (you are right, sometimes you gotta talk about the uncomfortable stuff to clear the air)

Can SOME sorority members be a little thin-skinned about some issues? Certainly, but then some MAJORITY folks will say we, as Black people, can be the same way about what we are called. My point is, so what if Sigma Gamma Rhos are called Rhos, or Gammas, or Sigmas where you are. If a person on GC says we prefer to be called X what is the harm is accomodating their request? Why go into the "Well on MY campus we call them Ys and they don't have a problem with it, so that's what I am going to call you!"

I think most of the Black folks on this site would have a cow if someone called them colored and then said "Well I've always called y'all colored and the good colored folks in my hometown don't mine so I'm still gonna call you colored!" :eek:

Actually, on my birth certificate I and my parents are called 'Negro'. ;)

Me too! ;) On my parents, they and their parents are colored. Just don't be trying to call none of us either one of those names! ;)

I think so, too. But I've got an excuse -- I was born in 1964. I think "Negro" was still in common usage back then.

Maybe my soror read this general statement that you made. I don't know why my post was quoted, though.

TRSimon

I guess this is strange that this would be my first post but here it goes....

I am currently researching my options in BGLO's. So, browsing through this forum I came across this post. All of the four sororities in the D9 say that they are about reaching out to the black community and sisterhood, and reading this history I know they are. That's why it troubles me and is somewhat disheartening to see that such pettiness could pull apart black women who I know stand for so much. I realize that this is the real world and people do argue, but just because you are members of different sororities doesn't mean we all can't show sisterhood :confused: Much love, no apologies...

You are entitled to feel the way you do, but #1 you are on the OUTSIDE looking in. #2 EVERYONE has tension SOMETIMES. #3 GC is a microcosm of the real world.


:confused: :rolleyes: :confused: Why bring this back to the top? The issues were settled in MARCH.

If you cannot stand a little friction from time to time, I don't know where you live and who you surround yourself with.