Expansion-Who would you choose?
 

I was just curious as to what group you think would be the best to bring onto a campus out of these Organizations. I would prefer suggestions based on National knowledge of their organization, their values they uphold and their ability to recruit on a campus where there is only a 3% Greek population on a 20,000 student campus. These are the groups...
-Beta Theta Pi
-Sigma Chi
-Delta Chi
-Delta Upsilon
-Pi Kappa Phi
-Phi Sigma Kappa


Thanks,
-Kilo-
Delta Sigma Phi

Delta Upsilon
 

Of course, there are many other things that depend on the campus, such as nearby chapters, housing requirements, etc., but without this information, I would say DU.

Why DU?

Well, there founding was based on de-mystifying Greek organizations, in a way. I think that the open ritual is something that appeals to men who are uncertain about Greek life.

Sigma Chi. That's the only one out of that list that we have. Well, there IS Du, but I'm sticking with Sig Chi

beta
 

Beta Theta Pi without a doubt. we are one of the oldest, largest and most respected fraternities in the nation. Our Men of Principle Initiative is redefining greek life. need more info? go to www.betathetapi.org and see why we are #1

From the above list I'd have to say Beta. They don't have one on my campus but the chapters that do exist in the state (and the colony that already has a mansion) enjoy HUGE alum support.

i think you need to add phi kappa psi...but i am drunk..so whatever

Based on the list you provided and knowing of their generally high level of alumni involvement and support, I'd say Beta Theta Pi.

Based on my heart and my personal experiences, I'd say Delta Chi without hesitation.

If your school is considering fraternity expansion, make sure to consider alumni support. Some fraternities do that very well, and it makes a huge difference!

Christin

The best you could do
 

The thing you ought to do is bring 'em all on.

Why are you trying to limit the number of chapters when 97%of the students are non-GLO?

And who gives anyone the power to keep anyone out? Is your campus in Iraq?

I think I would look at which orgs are stong in your geographic region. That would mean that they would have great resources if they decided to colonize.

For example, I would add Sigma Chi or Beta Theta Pi to my campus in GA because they are both strong orgs in the south.

It just depends where you are...

Delta Upsilon started a colony on our campus (12,000 enrollment 3-4% Greek, 75% commuter) my first year as advisor and struggled. They finally pulled out after about 18 months. However, they started other colonies at the same time and they did great. Ask a lot of questions of all of these groups. Colonies can do well when the expansion team is still on campus, but then flop when they leave. Some questions I would ask:

1. When will local alumni actually start working with the colony? Do they have solid commitments from alumni to advise the colony?

2. How long will the expansion team be on campus, when ( or if) they will be coming back?

3. When will they teach the members how to

effectively recruit?

Really, I think the most important question is who else is already on campus? Fraternities do have different kinds of guys they want, and so - what great group of guys aren't being targeted by the fraternities you already have?

I would say based on national strength, Beta or DU. And that is national - based on just my campus I would not recommend either one!

We had a Beta Colony fail last year, and it wasn't for lack of trying. They had a great counselor out here for most of the semester and he worked his ass off. What it comes down to is the stigma any of those orgs may have had if they ever left campus. Beta here was hurt by how they left...it was VERY messy. I agree, look to the surrounding area, how much support will they have? My one problem with that it that then favors the big nat'l fraternites and in someways discounts the smaller ones. Look at the guys that this is trying to attract, what are they into, what kind men are they? If they are hesitant, the DU could be a great option.

Kilo, of the groups you have mentioned I would choose Beta. They colonized on my campus when I was an undergrad. I was impressed by the active roles that their national, alumni, and other nearby chapters played in their founding.

I think it depends upon what your campus is like.

For example, if you don't have campus housing you don't want to bring on a fraternity where all the chapters have big houses on campus and it is a major focus of their programming. If you have a lot of non-traditional students, you don't want a group whose rules won't bend to accomodate that.

Re: The best you could do
 

Definitely.

I don't agree with the usual conception that Greek Life at 3% of the student body could be at "capacity". It's probably because there are too few groups and those individual groups have reached their capacity or are incompetant when it comes to recruitment!

One thing that can give a stagnant group a needed kick in the ass is a little competition! Greek Life for men on our campus has shot through the roof since they brought us and PKA within a 2 year period! Now we see the need to add more fraternities!

NPC Sororities are a little different. 3 houses at quota, one struggling. Another house is needed but because one house cannot recruit they sit on their thumbs and turn girls away.

Kilo:

What school are you at? What is your campus like?
Why is the Greek community so small? Will your administration allow only one more national org on? Is this a local that wishes to become a national, or a cold start up? Answers to these questions would certainly clairify the situation.

Re: Expansion-Who would you choose?
 

Damn man, I can't believe I didn't see that. I'd like to know what school you're at also.

YITBOS

ktsnake.

I totally agree with you!

We have LXA, SX, PKA, SPE, PSK, and STG!

I would like to see nay strong International Greek Org come on Campus!

I would especially like to see the NPC's expand as we only have 3, ASA, AGD, and SSS!

It is and has been a tuff Greek Campus but if there were more HE/SHES, the Campus would see more of Greeks, If they got along for Crying out loud and work together!

When looking at expansion you have to guage the groups ability to fully integrate into the greek community at the perspective school and how the addition of that voice will help to mold the student body oppinion of greek life. One of the things that I would say that I don't know the perspective campus that you are on but make sure one, there is a strong graduate base to which these young men can prosper; two look at the "package" that their organization is willing to do is it they will help them on recruitment the first year, designing programs, ensuring a strong base, how many men do they expect to found this chapter etc, and finally what is the opionion of the other greek organizations are they inviting a new GLO because they want to increase the % of greek on campus simply in number but there exists a quality issue as well. I find it dificult to decide without knowing what the state of greek affairs are on this campus and thus have chose to leave general guidelines above that need to be carefully explored.

I would agree that Beta should be a strong candidate, not because I'm in Beta, but because of the success in colonizing we have had over the past five years since the Men of Principle initiative was begun.

Basically the MOP Initiative is a partnership between the chapter, the General Fraternity, and area alumni to do whatever possible to create success. I know that colonizations at big greek schools have yielded as many as 55 founding fathers. This occurred at Oklahoma State. Recent colonization efforts at Columbia pledged 36 founding fathers.

I can't find numbers for other colonizations but I'm willing to bet that they are similar.

This is not to say the others would not be similarily successful, but the experience of successful colonizations can't be ignored.

Good luck in choosing your next organization!!!

From what I know, Beta Theta Pi and Sigma Chi are the two strongest candidates on that list, but I have to agree with the general concensus on this one that there's more info needed. Beta and Sigs are two powerhouses, but at a smaller campus that may not be necessarily the best option. Sigma Chi does not found, for example, if they do not have at least 60 men interested. Also, maybe DU has a very strong alum base in the area while Sigs or Betas to not? There are so many different things to look at.

I would pick any of the fraternities except for Phi Sigma Kappa. I have not had good experiences with that fraternity. I'm not saying all chapters are alike, but I find that a lot of things went "unchecked" and "uncorrected" on my campus and I wouldn't think that would be a good reflection of the GLO's HQ. But, they threw one hell of a party. I've heard their chapter is gone now anyway.

I would pick Sigma Chi, they seem to have great alum support up here in Canada. Beta Theta Pi would be my second choice.

i just met some Betas
they are a great group of guys
and they have a great support unit for alumnae

Beta,
Been on two different campuses both without Beta. I heard the chapter at Texas Tech is pretty awesome.

Our Texas Tech Chapter is one of our best chapters, always are kicking butt on campus, always winning awards.

Beta is obvously my choice, but I say ANY expansion is good. Even if it is Sigma Chi. ha ha

At my school, Sigma Chi was the most involved of the fraternities on your list in campus activities, philanthropy, and had the some of the biggest alumni support. They are very popular in Florida. I don't know if it is the same in your state or school.

Jennifer

Sigma Chi here is mainly guys who plan on going into law school or at least into business. They serve on fraternity council, have top grades, and still throw great parties.;)