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Texas-Gal 03-03-2003 02:23 AM

Sorority Life 3
 
Thanks to all of you from these forums who have been visiting my website, and reading the recaps of "Sorority Life" and "Fraternity Life."

I wanted to clue y'all in to my very recent discovery (tonight!) about the sorority that will be featured in the next season of SL - Season Three:

Zeta Sigma Phi
a multicultural sorority at Southern Cal

I put more info about them on the website - but was curious if there are any members of that sorority that post here?

_______________________________

Make It A Double, Sweetie: Unofficial Home of MTV's "Sorority Life"

.

SoCalGirl 03-03-2003 03:45 AM

I was just reading your SL recap before coming to GC tonight. When is the FL recap going to be ready???? I finally got to watch the eps today and I want some snarky recaps!:D

I don't know if any Zeta Sigma Phi's post on here but we've known for about a week that SL3 is at USC. Anyone know if FL2 will be there too?

Texas-Gal, care to fill us in on which sorority at UT you're a member of?:)

josh8o 03-03-2003 03:45 AM

hey i heard about this over the weekend at the csu greek summit...i just hope it can show multi cultural greeks in a light so that the social greeks can gain some understanding.

sugar and spice 03-03-2003 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoCalGirl


Texas-Gal, care to fill us in on which sorority at UT you're a member of?:)

I've been curious about this too!

Texas-Gal 03-03-2003 04:41 AM

I heard rumors that SL:3 was at Southern Cal about 3 weeks ago or so, but was only able to confirm which sorority it was a couple of hours ago after some detective work.

I do NOT think FL:2 will be filmed at SC - if there's going to be an FL:2 at all. I have heard NOTHING about that - so I am curious, too.

My FL recap was written in note form tonight, and should be posted tomorrow (tues at the latest). I figure I'll always post the SL recaps first, since they are a lot more fun to do, and then the FL recaps shortly before the next episode airs.

As for my affiliation - I've debated revealing that for over a year, and decided it was better not to. Maybe I should take guesses - like when I was a Rho Chi, and all the girls tried to guess which house I was a member of...

texas*princess 03-03-2003 11:04 AM

Awesome website Texas-Gal!!!

sugar and spice 03-03-2003 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Texas-Gal

I do NOT think FL:2 will be filmed at SC - if there's going to be an FL:2 at all. I have heard NOTHING about that - so I am curious, too.

My guess is that they're waiting to see how big of a hit Fraternity Life will be before they do another one. As with "Sorority Life," they didn't start filming season 2 until season 1 was almost done airing -- my guess is that "Fraternity Life" will be the same. If FL goes well this season, we'll probably start hearing rumors of a second season about halfway through.

Texas-Gal 03-03-2003 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sugar and spice
If FL goes well this season, we'll probably start hearing rumors of a second season about halfway through.
That's probably the best guess - the only problem is, if they're waiting to film until after seeing the numbers from the first season, they won't be able to film again until next fall... which means Season Two wouldn't premiere until almost a year from now.

bruinaphi 03-03-2003 03:08 PM

MTV is NOT filming Fraternity Life 2 with Sorority Life 3. The USC community has known about SL3 since the end of January when MTV began looking for a house in the area.

Unregistered- 03-03-2003 03:11 PM

Re: Sorority Life 3
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Texas-Gal
Thanks to all of you from these forums who have been visiting my website, and reading the recaps of "Sorority Life" and "Fraternity Life."

I wanted to clue y'all in to my very recent discovery (tonight!) about the sorority that will be featured in the next season of SL - Season Three:

Zeta Sigma Phi
a multicultural sorority at Southern Cal

I put more info about them on the website - but was curious if there are any members of that sorority that post here?

_______________________________

Make It A Double, Sweetie: Unofficial Home of MTV's "Sorority Life"

.

OMG....that IS my friend's sorority. She mentioned a few times that MTV was interested in filming them. She was part of the Epsilon Class a few years ago. She's an alum now, but I should really try to get her to come and post here.

SoCalGirl 03-03-2003 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Texas-Gal
As for my affiliation - I've debated revealing that for over a year, and decided it was better not to. Maybe I should take guesses - like when I was a Rho Chi, and all the girls tried to guess which house I was a member of...
'k, but at least give us a list of what chapters were on your campus at the time! It'll help narrow it down a tad. ;)

madaboutap 03-03-2003 11:36 PM

Personal, I am rooting for FL 2. How does MTV choose which local to film from across the US? They have went from Cal. to NY that is a big swing.

Texas-Gal 03-04-2003 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoCalGirl
'k, but at least give us a list of what chapters were on your campus at the time! It'll help narrow it down a tad. ;)
Alpha Chi Omega
Alpha Delta Pi
Alpha Epsilon Phi
Alpha Gamma Delta
Alpha Phi
Alpha Xi Delta
Chi Omega
Delta Delta Delta
Delta Gamma
Kappa Alpha Theta
Kappa Delta
Kappa Kappa Gamma
Pi Beta Phi
Sigma Delta Tau
Zeta Tau Alpha

Also: I always loved visiting other schools and seeing how different the chapters were from university to university. Obviously, some sororities are strong throughout the region (e.g. some on that list are in the top tier at most southern schools), but what would be considered an average sorority at my school would be the number 1 group at another campus.

shadokat 03-04-2003 03:41 PM

Wow, so many choices...I'm guessing Chi Omega or ZTA.

SoCalGirl 03-04-2003 09:45 PM

I'm holding off my guesses until I read more of your recaps and such. I've eliminated AGD, AZD, SDT and AEPhi though. 11 more to go!

bruinaphi 03-10-2003 01:53 PM

An article from last Thursday's Daily Trojan:

MTV reality show gets weak reception at USC


Filming: Campus officials, Greeks concerned about network misrepresentation

By BLAKE HENNON
Staff Writer

MTV is filming its third season of the reality series "Sorority Life," this time at USC, and has experienced a cold reception from the university community. The network's cameras are not permitted on campus or on the Row, the traditional hub of Greek life.

The show is filming the lives of sisters in Zeta Sigma Phi, a small sorority in the Multicultural Greek Council.

Zeta Sigma Phi approached university officials about a month ago and asked if MTV could film on campus.

The university declined, said Elijah May, campus filming coordinator for USC External Relations.

"As a general rule, we don't do reality shows," he said.

Despite the no-reality show policy, Campus Filming, Public Relations and the Office of Residential and Greek Life, (ORGL) reviewed the particular case and concluded there was nothing to warrant an exception from the no-filming standard.

Zeta Sigma Phi did not consult with ORGL before agreeing to do the show. After the request for filming permits was submitted, administrators met with Zeta Sigma Phi to discuss the show.

"We in the university, not just (ORGL), are concerned based on other reality shows and what may emerge after editing," said Ken Taylor, director of ORGL.

"I believe that if this sorority were portrayed fairly, they would achieve their goal of a positive image because they're very worthy," Taylor said. "It's a good chapter with good people in it."

MTV did not return calls. A Zeta Sigma Phi officer said members could not be interviewed about the show because of MTV policy.

Zeta Sigma Phi was founded in 1994 at USC as a multicultural sorority. The sorority has 25 actives and 16 pledges. The sorority does not have a house and is not affiliated with a national organization.

It is unknown whether MTV is providing the sorority with a house.

Many Greeks worry, however, that the network's portrayal will not be a fair one of Greek life, especially after the first season featured shouting matches, partying, risqué dancing and the infamous "sober sister" incident in which a sister chose to drink rather than do her duty.

MTV's Web site advertises this season of "Sorority Life" by inviting fans to "Sharpen your claws and vote for wannabe pledges." The reunion of the first-season group was promised to be a "big 'ol dysfunctional family reunion."

Such advertising and editing choices have some Greeks worried that the show will misrepresent USC Greek life.

Courtney Wong, president of the Panhellenic Council and a junior majoring in political science and communication, said Panhellenic sororities are concerned about the show's possible effect on USC sororities' reputations.

She also took exception to the show's title.

"There is no such thing as a typical sorority," she said.

National Greek organizations are distancing themselves from the show.

The show does not have permission from Panhellenic or International Fraternity Council national organizations to film on their houses' private properties, said Erin Jackson, Alpha Phi's delegate to Panhellenic and a junior majoring in communication and French.

Her sorority is not wearing its letters in public because the sisters do not want their letters shown on the show.

"I just think it's sad that that sorority doesn't really realize how detrimental the impact that they're making on USC in general and the Greek system is going to be," Jackson said.

IFC fraternities are also wary of the show.

"We were definitely informed to not participate in any way by our national fraternity," said Alex Hoover, past president of Kappa Sigma and a senior majoring in philosophy.

It is unknown how MTV will edit Zeta Sigma Phi's season, but MTV has already edited out of one sorority event.

On Feb. 22, Zeta Sigma Phi had a social event with its brother fraternity, the brotherhood of Sigma Chi Omega at the University of California, Santa Barbara, where Sigma Chi Omega did not allow MTV cameras to film the event, fraternity spokesman Paulo Galicia wrote in an e-mail.

Galicia said the fraternity has no relationship to the Sigma Chi Omega at the State University of New York, Buffalo, which is the subject of MTV's reality show, "Fraternity Life."

MTV has been criticized for presenting a distorted "reality."

Becca Ballon, president of Sigma Alpha Epsilon Pi at the University of California, Davis, who was featured in the first season of "Sorority Life" when she was the pledge master, said MTV did not show a complete picture of her sisters' lives.

"Everything that was shown obviously happened, but when you are filmed 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and less than 1 percent of that footage is aired, (MTV) will really take the juiciest bits and the most dramatic moments and highlight those," Ballon said.

The show's producers also created the "pledge house," which Sigma Alpha Epsilon Pi had nothing to do with — MTV decorated it and chose who lived there, Ballon said.

Ballon warned that the Zeta Sigma Phi sisters' lives will change when the show airs and added that it will be difficult for them not to cringe while watching.

Sigma Alpha Epsilon Pi consulted legal advisers and UC Davis officials for months before agreeing to do the show, Ballon said.

MTV told the sorority it wanted to tape how the organization worked and show the Greek community's positive side.

She and her sisters decided to go ahead with the filming because it was a medium to show how far they had come as a group since their creation in 1996.

The sorority received some financial compensation for being filmed, Ballon said.

Being on the show, however, has been beneficial, she added.

"We have a louder voice. We're more recognized, and we're stronger internally," she said.

WhirlwindTNX 06-20-2003 03:28 PM

I can see a pattern, MTV is choosing local sororities instead of national. Is there a reason for this? I have my own ideas, but what does everyone else think?

texas*princess 06-20-2003 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WhirlwindTNX
I can see a pattern, MTV is choosing local sororities instead of national. Is there a reason for this? I have my own ideas, but what does everyone else think?
National sororities (at least the NPC's) do not want their chapters to participate in this show, and rightly so. I hardly think any chapters would want to be ridiculed on national TV anyway. :)

ETA: I'm not sure if the NPHC sororities have a policy on the whole MTV sorority life thing?

WenD08 06-20-2003 04:20 PM

for Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc., if an undergrad chapter asked for permission to be on SL _, their graduate advisor will tell them "no". AKA on SL_ will not happen. for good reason:rolleyes:

CutiePie2000 06-20-2003 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WhirlwindTNX
I can see a pattern, MTV is choosing local sororities instead of national. Is there a reason for this? I have my own ideas, but what does everyone else think?
Most (if not all) Nationals are making it verboten for their chapters to partake in MTV shows...
Delta Gamma Fraternity Statement on MTV's "Sorority Life"

SlipRock 229 06-20-2003 05:05 PM

Personally I *HATE* MTV and it's vapid, bambi / biff attitude...everytime I happen to run into it somehow, I lose a point of IQ....


As for reality shows as a whole...it just needs to stop...look at the new one..that Hotel whatever where ppl just hook up...and then someone leaves and a new hookup is entered...WTF??

How sleazy can they get anymore?

LeslieAGD 06-21-2003 09:53 AM

Texas- Gal, any updates on SL3?

tnxbutterfly 06-21-2003 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WhirlwindTNX
I can see a pattern, MTV is choosing local sororities instead of national. Is there a reason for this? I have my own ideas, but what does everyone else think?
Hey Whirlwind,

Welcome to GC. Hope you come and post more often. :D

You don't have to worry about Theta Nu Xi appearing on SL. I think it's a rule forbidding us from going on the show.

WhirlwindTNX 06-21-2003 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tnxbutterfly
Hey Whirlwind,

Welcome to GC. Hope you come and post more often. :D

You don't have to worry about Theta Nu Xi appearing on SL. I think it's a rule forbidding us from going on the show.


Thanks sis!!!

I'm not a fan of the SL and FL shows but I think it's great they have decided to do a Multicultural Sorority. Then maybe they could do a Latin sorority or fraternity. I wanna see how they do things.

ThetaPrincess24 06-21-2003 05:26 PM

I think a vast majority of reality shows, in particularly SL and FL are crap. As it was said previously, MTV edits and broadcasts things in such a way that i think is a mockery, and further feeds negative stereotypes about sororities and fraternities. SL and FL along with ALL so called "reality" shows are created for one purpose and one purpose only RATINGS. Without ratings, these shows wont be back for multiple seasons because it wont generate money for the networks that broadcast them. I dont watch reality shows especially SL and FL for that reason as my way of boycotting them. I erge others, not just greeks, to do the same( especially in regards to SL and FL).

Mary
Delta Upsilon
Kappa Alpha Theta

CatStarESP4 06-21-2003 07:40 PM

Thanks for the article! I am more annoyed than ever before that MTV has to create sensationalism. If they want to portray us in an extremely positive light, I wouldn't mind. However, seeing what I saw in the two SL seasons and that one of FL, I am truly disgusted. I am glad that Greek101.com pulled out their sponsorship after seeing the negative sensationalism these shows brought. I don't think we should endure another season of FL and SL. BOYCOTT!!!!!!!!!

http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/angryfire.gif http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/screams.gif

GeekyPenguin 06-21-2003 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CatStarESP4
Thanks for the article! I am more annoyed than ever before that MTV has to create sensationalism. If they want to portray us in an extremely positive light, I wouldn't mind. However, seeing what I saw in the two SL seasons and that one of FL, I am truly disgusted. I am glad that Greek101.com pulled out their sponsorship after seeing the negative sensationalism these shows brought. I don't think we should endure another season of FL and SL. BOYCOTT!!!!!!!!!

I will never boycott these shows - they're funny! They're a horrible portrayal, but they're funny, and a lot of stuff on TV isn't anymore.

UT PhiSig 06-21-2003 08:23 PM

I agree with geeky I mean any fraternity that gives someone like Earl a bid should be shot. Its funny just to laugh at some of this shit. As for national fraternities/sororities I really dont think they would want the negative publicity that being on MTV would bring. I know that the Arizona State chapter of Phi Sig got yanked off campus just because they hosted a big girls gone wild party at there place so imagine if a national GLO was in MTV.

PHI SIGMA KAPPA-damn proud

absolutuscchick 07-01-2003 11:19 PM

Re: Sorority Life 3
 
Your website is amazing! Good job!!

Quote:

Originally posted by Texas-Gal
Thanks to all of you from these forums who have been visiting my website, and reading the recaps of "Sorority Life" and "Fraternity Life."

I wanted to clue y'all in to my very recent discovery (tonight!) about the sorority that will be featured in the next season of SL - Season Three:

Zeta Sigma Phi
a multicultural sorority at Southern Cal

I put more info about them on the website - but was curious if there are any members of that sorority that post here?

_______________________________

Make It A Double, Sweetie: Unofficial Home of MTV's "Sorority Life"

.


mmcat 07-02-2003 07:25 AM

the sad thing....
 
earl will probably be president of the group before too long.
:rolleyes:

TNX_Tigerlily 07-03-2003 12:47 PM

I dont want my MTV
 
Quote:

Originally posted by tnxbutterfly
Hey Whirlwind,

Welcome to GC. Hope you come and post more often. :D

You don't have to worry about Theta Nu Xi appearing on SL. I think it's a rule forbidding us from going on the show.


yea, i remember nationals telling us a long time ago that MTV was trying to contact us, since we were a smaller/newer sorority and to stay the hell away :p

bruinaphi 07-07-2003 12:10 AM

I just wanted to clarify that not wearing letters during Spring semester was a Panhellenic agreement, not just an Alpha Phi thing (as it may have seemed from the DT article).

LD

absolutuscchick 07-07-2003 04:36 AM

lauradav....I was on panhellenic and I know that not all houses chose to participate. However, it was suggested at a meeting for presidents and I know my chapter's president chose not to adopt it for our chapter. Other houses may have done the same, I am not sure. Just thought I would clarify :)

Texas-Gal 09-04-2003 01:10 PM

Just wanted to let everyone know that I've got information up on the complete cast of season 3 now, including pics.

I've already heard that only 14 of the 16 pledges will be initiated, and I've also heard that one of the house pledges is one of those 2.

Eirene_DGP 09-04-2003 01:22 PM

I'm acutally excited about SL3 because it will give multicultural organizations more exposure (I hope good exposure). Most people have never even heard of a MC org. This should be interesting. :D

mylife 09-04-2003 02:23 PM

When does the new season premier?

Texas-Gal 09-04-2003 02:56 PM

Sep. 17th

absolutuscchick 09-04-2003 11:06 PM

Stupid Sprint Cable better get my cable working by then or else I'm going to have to get satellite!!! I have to see SL 3...it has a USC sorority in it (that panhellenic hates!)

4RunnerStar 09-04-2003 11:26 PM

okay about the national orgs not wanting to be on MTV...wasnt MTV making a cribs sorority style? i heard they were filming the DG house at ole miss...there was even an article in the daily mississippian about it but it just said that they were undecided...

mmcat 09-05-2003 08:23 AM

what of the houses that were used in trading spaces -- i believe aopi, du, and delta gamma? i guess the nationals ok'd it.


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