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The Original Ape 06-14-2001 05:39 PM

Define "BITCH"
 
So many people use the word, and women hate it. I'm curious to see the women's definition of a bitch.

Bruhs, let's let them do their thang first; then jump in.

SH80 06-14-2001 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Original Ape:
So many people use the word, and women hate it. I'm curious to see the women's definition of a bitch.

Bruhs, let's let them do their thang first; then jump in.

(B)eing
(I)n
(T)otal
(C)ontrol of
(H)im

Just kidding! It depends on how a person views women. If someone believes in traditional gender roles, sees a woman who is assertive, stong-willed, or outspoken, she may be deemed a bitch. But, if a person isn't sexist may view a bitch as a keniving or cruel woman.

THICKNCHOCLATE 06-14-2001 07:03 PM

Hmmm...a female dog?? http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

AKA2D '91 06-14-2001 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by THICKNCHOCLATE:
Hmmm...a female dog?? http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif
http://www.plauder-smilies.de/nosmile/claps.gif

Good Answer! Good answer! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/tongue.gif



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Little32 06-14-2001 10:41 PM

Ditto.

The Original Ape 06-14-2001 10:45 PM

Why yall clownin'? Some of us seriously want to know how YALL define a bitch. So let's hear it ladies!

THICKNCHOCLATE 06-14-2001 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Original Ape:
Why yall clownin'? Some of us seriously want to know how YALL define a bitch. So let's hear it ladies!
Seriously, I honestly think it means female dog, but I think the men that called me that were meaning it totally different, like maybe too independent, stuck up, or snooty. Because when I don't accept a guy's advances, I'm always called a stuck up b..ch. On the other hand, my boyfriend says I'm being bitchy when I ask him to take out the trash more than once...hmmm maybe he could've did it the 1st time and I wouldn't have to ask again...go figure. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif

Ideal08 06-15-2001 09:10 AM

1) Just being evil and nagging and mean for no apparent reason.

2) Unnecessarily snooty (hmmm, can it EVER be necessary to be snooty?)

3) Crybabies, whiners, sore losers (read: Allen Iverson after EVERY call)

4) Men who let women (or another man, for that matter) punk them ALL THE TIME.

That's all I can't think of right now. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif

The Original Ape 06-15-2001 09:39 AM

fellas:

Yall peepin' this..... http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif

SableCherub 06-15-2001 10:56 AM

I'm a bitch!

When I stand up for myself and my beliefs,
they call me a bitch.

When I stand up for those I love, they call me a bitch.

When I speak my mind, think my own thoughts,
or do things my own way, they call me a bitch.

Being a bitch entails raising my children to be strong people who have a solid sense of personal and social responsibility, who are
not afraid to stand up for what they believe in and who love andn respect themselves for the beautiful beings they are.

Being a bitch means that I am free to be the wonderful creature that am, with all my own intricacies, contradictions, quirks and beauty.

Being a bitch means I won't compromise what's in my heart. It means I live my life MY way.
It means I won't allow anyone to step on me.

When I refuse to tolerate injustice and speak up against it, I am defined as a bitch.

The same thing happens when I take time for myself instead of being everyone's maid, or when I act a little selfish.

I am proud to be a bitch! It means I have the courage and strength to allow myself to be who I truly am and won't become anyone else's idea of what they think I "should" be.

I am outspoken, opinionated, and determined. By God, I want what I want, and there is nothing wrong with that!

So try to stomp on me, try to douse my inner flame, try to squash every ounce of beauty I hold within me. You won't succeed.

And if that makes me a bitch, so be it. I embrace the title and am proud to bear it.

I love this, I can call myself a bitch now and not feel bad about it

Send this to all the bitches you know!!!

--author unknown

i found this at http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Port/5270/bitch.htm

AKA2D '91 06-15-2001 11:04 AM

Now, some of that up there is ON POINT!

Oh well! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif

tickledpink 06-15-2001 01:03 PM

The definition of one??? Yeah, a female dog. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif No, seriously, it's a matter of perception. Some men perceive all women to be B****es & hoes. Some call us that when they can't get what they want out of us, because they think that's the hardest name that they can call us & hurt us.

Some men & women perceive women that are "gold diggas", unfaithful, evil, insensitive, and cold to be B****es.

I've heard the term used between two friends (much like we sometimes use the term n**ga)...even though I don't flow like that with my "gyrls".

My personal feeling about the term? It's derogatory. You can't hurt me by calling me one because I know who I am and what I believe. However, if we want to be respected, we can't refer to ourselves as b****es.

Did I answer your question?

SableCherub 06-15-2001 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Original Ape:
Interesting.

I've noticed more and more how alot of women think it's the shyt to be a bitch. Maybe that's why they have all the kinds of problems they have; while those that choose to be ladies are in big demand.

i didn't see anything in those lines that indicated that it is the shyt to be a bitch...i think the gist was that "i" am going to be me and handle my business no matter what...and if that is perceived as being a bitch...and that is the label that others will attatch to a woman that does that...so be it...and why not be proud about it because if someone thinks a woman is a bitch for those reasons...they obviously have issues...and probably should get a little "bitchy" every now and again... http://www.plauder-smilies.de/evillaugh2.gif



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Ideal08 06-15-2001 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Original Ape:
fellas:

Yall peepin' this..... http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif

What's up with the http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif? LOL! You don't believe us?? http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif


[This message has been edited by Ideal08 (edited June 15, 2001).]

The Original Ape 06-15-2001 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ideal08:
What's up with the http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif? LOL! You don't believe us?? http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif


[This message has been edited by Ideal08 (edited June 15, 2001).]

Naw, Naw; I believe....some of yall. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif


Kimmie1913 06-15-2001 04:41 PM

We all know that a b***h is a female dog. That is a definition of the word.

In everyday life, I think the term is used as previously defined- an evil, snooty, obnoxious or overly rude woman. As someone else stated, sometimes a weak man.

Oftentimes, I find that a very broad slice of women are called b***hes. I know I personally have had men throw that term at me because I was not receptive to their advance (No I will not cross the street cause you decided to holla at me out of your car) or because we are assertive or strong willed. So what? There are still significant disparities in what is an acceptable personality trait for a man and for a woman. If the same response/answer out of him would not have gotten a deroogatory term hurled at him, then I should not have one hurled at me either.

As a modern, sophisticated, intellegent professional Black woman in the year 2001, I really don't give a rat's butt if someone wants to call me a b***h or not. I am going to do what I am going to do to get my business accomplished and acheive my goals. I do not do this by being insincere or rude or incosideratte. Still, by the sheer existance of my conifidence and FORTITUDE I am sometimes going to be (incorrectly) labeled a b***h.

I believe many women (and particularly my Sisters) are tired of the idea that men are suppoesed to be able to intimidate us by calling us names. That hurling epithets is supposed to help show us our place in society, our homes and the work world. That is where the brekdown
B(eing)
I(n)
T(otal)
C(ontrol) of
H(erself)
came from. It was an attempt to take the negative power out of the world and acknowledge that it is often applied to women because they are comeptenet and assertive, outspoken and strong. As a Black woman, sometimes I feel like the same traits used to describe us are the same things that get us called a b***h..

Can I be b***hy? Yes. Do I ever use the word? Occassionally. But I think it is very overused and broadly applied.

Does that answer your question?


THICKNCHOCLATE 06-15-2001 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmie1913:


Can I be b***hy? Yes. Do I ever use the word? Occassionally. But I think it is very overused and broadly applied.

Does that answer your question?


Amen Sister!!! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/cool.gif


The Original Ape 06-16-2001 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SableCherub:
I'm a bitch!

When I stand up for myself and my beliefs,
they call me a bitch.

When I stand up for those I love, they call me a bitch.

When I speak my mind, think my own thoughts,
or do things my own way, they call me a bitch.

Being a bitch entails raising my children to be strong people who have a solid sense of personal and social responsibility, who are
not afraid to stand up for what they believe in and who love andn respect themselves for the beautiful beings they are.

Being a bitch means that I am free to be the wonderful creature that am, with all my own intricacies, contradictions, quirks and beauty.

Being a bitch means I won't compromise what's in my heart. It means I live my life MY way.
It means I won't allow anyone to step on me.

When I refuse to tolerate injustice and speak up against it, I am defined as a bitch.

The same thing happens when I take time for myself instead of being everyone's maid, or when I act a little selfish.

I am proud to be a bitch! It means I have the courage and strength to allow myself to be who I truly am and won't become anyone else's idea of what they think I "should" be.

I am outspoken, opinionated, and determined. By God, I want what I want, and there is nothing wrong with that!

So try to stomp on me, try to douse my inner flame, try to squash every ounce of beauty I hold within me. You won't succeed.

And if that makes me a bitch, so be it. I embrace the title and am proud to bear it.

I love this, I can call myself a bitch now and not feel bad about it

Send this to all the bitches you know!!!

--author unknown

i found this at http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Port/5270/bitch.htm

Interesting.

I've noticed more and more how alot of women think it's the shyt to be a bitch. Maybe that's why they have all the kinds of problems they have; while those that choose to be ladies are in big demand.


SH80 06-16-2001 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Original Ape:
Interesting.

I've noticed more and more how alot of women think it's the shyt to be a bitch. Maybe that's why they have all the kinds of problems they have; while those that choose to be ladies are in big demand.

What's wrong with that? A woman being genuine to herself. I hope that's not what you meant.


Kiara 06-18-2001 02:13 AM

NOT ONLY A FEMALE DOG...BUT A " MALE DOG"...WOOOF WOOOF...

Professor 06-18-2001 09:57 AM

After reading the post all I know is that I like bitches - all kind of bitches, independent bithches, stuck up bitches, mean bitches - - I just like bitches.


This is really an interesting topic. Bitch is a word if used by a male then women seemingly become angered. If women call another woman a bitch it describes her attitude. I don't think men can win with this one. It is much like when our folk say that's my nigga! Many of us think if is ok to say but let the other folk say it and we are ready to take it to the street.


SH80 06-18-2001 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Professor:
After reading the post all I know is that I like bitches - all kind of bitches, independent bithches, stuck up bitches, mean bitches - - I just like bitches.


This is really an interesting topic. Bitch is a word if used by a male then women seemingly become angered. If women call another woman a bitch it describes her attitude. I don't think men can win with this one. It is much like when our folk say that's my nigga! Many of us think if is ok to say but let the other folk say it and we are ready to take it to the street.

You silly!!! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

novella000 06-25-2001 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Professor:
After reading the post all I know is that I like bitches - all kind of bitches, independent bithches, stuck up bitches, mean bitches - - I just like bitches.


This is really an interesting topic. Bitch is a word if used by a male then women seemingly become angered. If women call another woman a bitch it describes her attitude. I don't think men can win with this one. It is much like when our folk say that's my nigga! Many of us think if is ok to say but let the other folk say it and we are ready to take it to the street.


I like your response Professor. http://www.plauder-smilies.com/happy/xyxthumbs.gif


But TOA, I am pleading the fifth on this one. Unless you want another female dog explanation. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif


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lil_sunshine 10-23-2001 05:01 PM

Define BITCH....
 
Well, I came up with my definition of this word about 4-5 years ago. My definition is...

Black, beautiful
Intelligent, Independent
Trustworthy, Thoughtful
Confident, Considerate
Helpful, Humble and Happy :D

Now does this fit you description of what you really wanna hear, guys??? :p

The Original Ape 10-23-2001 05:53 PM

bitch
 
I think if a woman plays the role, she gets the title!:D

Reds6 10-23-2001 06:12 PM

Well I don't think only women came be bitches. there are some weakass men out there that act like a bunch of bitches!!!!!!!
I hate wimpy, whiped men.

The Original Ape 10-23-2001 08:36 PM

bitch
 
I give you that. There are some men out there that DO act like bitches.

soulsearchin 10-26-2001 01:35 PM

Re: bitch
 
Quote:

Originally posted by The Original Ape
I think if a woman plays the role, she gets the title!:D
"the roll"? why is it that when a woman is strong...she's a bitch...but a man that acts in the same way...is just being a man...the way a man "should be"...strong...ascertive...etc...seriously:rolleye s::)

The Original Ape 10-26-2001 07:14 PM

Who said that?
 
Soulsearchin,

Who said a woman being strong is a bitch? I said when a woman plays the role, she gets the title; that's it. That's ALL I said. I know plenty of strong women that aren't bitches. Think about it; you may know some too!:)

SWEETAKA 02-24-2002 12:16 PM

This word is very much in line with the "n" word to me: derogatory-- All joking aside. I don't understand how anyone can try to justify either without speaking out of the side of their mouth. Those type words can't be cleaned up nor made over to fit the new age of thinking. They are just what they are. Instead of trying to make it into an acronym, be the one to say it is wrong. Black women are very strong voices in our communities and should not be equated with such language. In other words, be a part of the solution and don't perpetuate hate by being a part of the problem. I know some of you may be just joking and jiving(as my uncle says) but
This Is a Serious Matter.....

ENDROAD 02-24-2002 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Reds6
Well I don't think only women came be bitches. there are some weakass men out there that act like a bunch of bitches!!!!!!!
I hate wimpy, whiped men.

On the real the ONLY acceptable definition in my book is a female dog. Whether you like it or not. If that answer is not good enough for you then I think you have some personal issues. As Kiara so eloquently put it the term in its' derogatory sense does not only apply to women. So let that shyt go! :rolleyes:

Blue_Passion_01 03-06-2002 12:26 PM

(B)eautiful
(I)ntelligernt
(T)alented
(C)unning
(H)orny

HA HA HA HA

#2 Cool Breeze 03-06-2002 01:12 PM

It seems like most responses are alluding to men calling a woman a bitch, but what about women calling each other bitches? What then is meant? Does it take on another meaning? Is it less bothersome, or cruel? What about when friends call each other that in joking...."....Bitch please..." Or, is it like the whole "nigga" thing were it's more excepted if a woman calls another woman it, but it's disrespect when a man does? Somebody holla back!!

lil_sunshine 03-06-2002 03:51 PM

I think that....
 
You're right, #2 Cool Breeze. I think that "bitch" is to women as "n!gg@" is to men. Most of the time, "bitch" is a term of endearment in the presence of friends, but in the presence of enemies, it's not. For guys, I think that "n!gg@" is a term of endearment most of the time also. I don't remember a time when it wasn't.

lovelyivy84 03-06-2002 04:18 PM

The other day I was listening to the radio and they were discussing the use of "the n word". I heard a really interesting point that I think applies to bitch too, but maybe has been more fully realized because it doesn't have the same historical impact as nigga.

One of the callers on the show proposed that we have reached a point in this society where for a number of black people, whether we prosper or fail is up to us. There is NO word out there that can bring us down. You can call me a nigga or a bitch all day and at the end I am still going to do what I have to do. It only has power over you if you let it.

I have been thinking about that since I heard it. I am still not comfortable hearing that word. Am I giving it undue power in allowing it to make me feel uneasy?

I think many women have overcome that with the word bitch. That term has become fairly popular as another way of saying that you are a strong woman.

lil_sunshine 03-07-2002 06:11 PM

I'm feeling ya, lovelyivy84!!!!! :D I guess some NYers do think alike!!! :D ;)

DeTeRm1NaT1on 03-07-2002 07:12 PM

Hello Everyone,

Okay, I will make this very simple. If thats what a person wants to call me because he/she can't handle my personality, strength, and/or determination, then in the words of Redman "I'll be dat!!!!"

lovelyivy84 03-08-2002 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil_sunshine
I'm feeling ya, lovelyivy84!!!!! :D I guess some NYers do think alike!!! :D ;)
:D

thesweetestone 03-08-2002 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeTeRm1NaT1on

Okay, I will make this very simple. If thats what a person wants to call me because he/she can't handle my personality, strength, and/or determination, then in the words of Redman "I'll be dat!!!!" [/B]
Girl, I feel that same way. At first it hurt my feelings, when people would call me a Bitch. Once I realized that they were saying it only because i'm don't follow the crowd. I'm my own person. I don't need anyone else thinking for me. Really people have been saying it so long it doesn't bother me anymore.

When I try to be nice to people, they try to run over me. Then, the ugly got to come out. :p

DeTeRm1NaT1on 03-08-2002 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by thesweetestone
When I try to be nice to people, they try to run over me. Then, the ugly got to come out. :p
I feel the same way.


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