Have you all read. . .
 

the INTERRACIAL RELATIONSHIPS thread in Chit Chat.

Some interesting comments and some sickening ones.:(

http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showth...threadid=29658

Oh and let us not forget the Ghetto FAb thread in Chit Chat. . .

http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showth...threadid=29735

I read it earlier this morning.

I'm glad someone responded saying that their parents were racists and would disown them if they brought any other race home.

Those were not the EXACT words, but most of them are. I can appreciate that. If that is the TRUTH and one can admit it, that's cool. I may not like it, but hey that's his/her folks.

The Ghetto Fab thread, I haven't "seent" it yet. LOL :p

Edit: I just looked at the IR thread. :eek: :eek: If that's what floats your boat...I guess. :rolleyes:

:confused:

I just read all those threads and didn't realize until now how many stupid ass people are here on Greekchat :rolleyes:

Beware because now the General Forums bouncer will refute your comments based on the premise that you have never posted in the General Forums before. :rolleyes:

If you are going to argue, do it on my comments and NOT my posting patterns and preferences.:mad:

Ok, the Ghetto Fab thread was getting off the chain. (Is that a Ghetto Fab phrase ? :p ).

It kills me when folks throw parties like that under the guise of innocennt ignorance.

WHATEVER! :mad:

I've read it
 

And there is no point in posting in it. Except for my sorors and some others, I probably will never meet any of those people in my life. I'm far too old to get my drawers in a bunch over people who I don't know and never will meet.

What I think, however, is that many of these people have never met an AfAm in real life. Or if they know them, the AfAms are of the "go along to get along" type who don't make waves. This is why, IMO, some of the others seem to be shocked by the candor I see in the responses.

As for where I'm posting in GC, I like our rooms because we generally have more substantial conversations. No offense to anyone, but I'm nearly 17 years out of college and some of the stuff discussed in the general rooms is beyond me.

Yeah, I always try to stay out of those convos, but I just can't seem to do it. LOL. I just posted my final thoughts on the topic (yeah right) and I hope at least one person over there gets what I'm saying.

I read it and I've really been wondering if I am wrong for feeling this way but the two black girls over in the forum who are members of NPC orgs are really irking me. I have no problem with the fact that they decided to go NPC but it sorta bothers me that they made the comment that "I would never date a black man" and one of them went as far as to say "all my friends are white". Maybe I'm being extra sensitive but it just makes me sick to see things like that and I may be reading too much into this but I wonder if they even like black people in general. :rolleyes:

Chiiiiiiiiiiiile, yes I understand your sentiments exactly.

I assume they have not been around a lot of other black people in their lifetime, and the few they've been around were negative. A lack of POSITIVE black role models and environment can fuel attitudes like theirs.

Just as we have been discussing, it is a popular thought that ghetto=black...not just with white people. Sadly there are LOTS of black people who think that too. If you have not been exposed to other black people who have their stuff together, it isn't uncommon not wanting to be associated.

Or themselves for that matter.......:rolleyes:

Things that make me just shake my head.

But what I wonder is how can you be raised by a black parent or two and have such negative attitudes? It does boggle the mind.

Parents are just one source of influence, peers and enviroment outside the house can be just as strong influences....not in all cases though, just some.

@Dionysus
 

Good points you made about other peers.

But I would think that your parents should be the supreme influence, but I guess that's just me ((shrugs shoulders)).

I was picked on like a mutha when I was a kid because my interests didn't fit someone's stereotype. But d***, it never got to the point where I didn't want to have anything to do with my own.

I don't feel you are extra sensitive. I read both of the ladies comments as well and what I will never understand is how do you look at your black face in the mirror, but refuse to give your mirror image, a black man, a chance? It's like partially denying a part of yourself. An episode of Good Fences maybe? I don't knock anyone for dating outside of their race. I say love who loves you, but at least give your race a try before you just dismiss the issue. I couldn't say I would never date a black man when a black man created me. Maybe having the father that I had developed my appreciation for black men. Well I guess preferences make the world go round. I ain't mad at them though cause I love me some black brothas, ain't nothing finer, but I don't and never will understand where they are coming from.

good observation, virtuous/erudite!
 

i don't think you were too sensitive in making your assessment of the two black women...i was puzzled and saddened as well (and for their sakes, too) by their comments. it's one thing to date other races, but to limit yourself to one race and brag about having race-exclusive friendships is just PLAIN IGNORANT! think about how those comments would sound coming from two white women...i also wonder if their statements were taken as positive and complimentary by the posters who consider themselves "white"...

i find their declarations especially telling...i mean, did ANY of the "others" feel the need to state that they "would never date a white man/woman" or that "all my friends are black"? if i missed it, please let me know...thanks! ;) :cool:

i, too, liked the fact that many who posted were "straight up" and basically admitted that bigotry DOES still exist and is still being taught in families. honesty of that type, in such a forum and in life, is a very rare pleasure, indeed.

perhaps, if there were more candid speech EVERYDAY, we'd have fewer misunderstandings--and we'd know EXACTLY where people stood.

:eek: :eek: and more :eek:

Man I wish I had come across that thread earlier. I was also offended at UF saying "You black chicks" damn we can't even be respected and called women?:mad:

whatever!


QTE

Same script....dif'rent cast!
 

If you watch 'Good Fences' on Showtime, you won't have to wonder.

Edit:
A response made by CT4 (G Fab Thread:)
:o :o

LMAO

Re: Same script....dif'rent cast!
 

I need to watch that when it comes back on rerun. :D

But I also got to thinking about this topic and Janet Cooke. For those who don't know, Cooke is the disgraced Washington Post reporter who had to return the 1982 Pulitzer Price after making up a fake story about an 8-year-old heroin addict.

Ms. Cooke had a lot of the same issues we're talking about on this board. With that in mind, I found a GQ story on her, read it and picked up on several things that dovetail with this topic:

Her father, who was one of the top executives at the Toledo, Ohio gas company at one time, told her that the other black kids in their AfAm neighborhood "are not smart enough or cultured enough to be your playmates."
WTF?:mad:

Also, once she worked at the Post, she wasn't even cordial or civil to her AfAm coworkers. And other people noticed this -- in fact, her editor mentioned it in her job performance evaluation and said that Ms. Cooke should at least say hello to three black male reporters who had access to Ben Bradlee, who was the editor-in-chief at that time.

The editor also suggested to Ms. Cooke that "perhaps you might want to make some black friends within the newsroom. Maybe that would ease the pains you have in your stomach."

Well, suffice it to say, Ms. Cooke didn't learn.

Well...
 

I think I have a rep over on Chit Chat as being the resident "militant".

There have been racial topics aplenty over there, these are just the latest. (search "prejudism"...it will offer hours of unbridled entertainment, promise!) Most of them end up with a zillion posts and no resolutions. Still, I am compelled to respond. I guess it is just my stubborness. And you know, it is really difficult because I am almost SURE they sign off GC thinking "man, black people are hyper-sensitive about every little thing." But still, I just feel that it is better to at least attempt to show them another perspective so they think twice about doing something ignorant like a ghetto fab party. :rolleyes:

I have actually learned alot on Chit Chat (part of it is how to better deal with ignorance), and I post there almost everyday. I find it to be more light-hearted and more "anything goes" that BGLO boards. I mean, can anyone who checked the "Offended" thread fathom that being here or on AKA, ZPhiB, or SGrho? LOL.

At the same time, it is an eye-opener because, as Steeltrap said, I am almost positive that some of them have only been exposed to Black people (and by that I mean Black people who are CONSCIOUS of their blackness) through the media. When they post certain things that seem close-minded and ignorant without batting an eyelash, it sort of bothers me. But hey, I think CT4 once said that GC is a microcosm of real life, so best be equipped to deal!

Re: Well...
 

You, my friend, are doing the Lord's work by trying to educate and give perspective. And you're not THAT militant. :p :)

I suppose that I'm just too old and worn-out to deal with ignorance and too jaded to constantly give people who should know better (but don't) Black People 101 classes.

Having said that, I did post in one of the prejudism threads because the instigator absolutely needed to be checked and should have lost posting privileges. Sorry, I don't consider a MB free speech -- although I'm a journo, I'm not a fan of unbridled First Amendment rights. ;)

http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showth...threadid=29628


Well I just be DAMNED!!!!

I have not read the article but the comments of HOOSIER were SO UNNECESSARY!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

The link to the article did not work. CT4, I agree with you 100%. His comments were NOT needed. :mad:

Article did not work for me either. I will do a search for KAPsi and hazing to see what this latest incident involves.

FOUND IT. . .
 

This is from another site, local Louisiana News Channel. . . http://www.ktbs.com/news/education.html




NSU FRATERNITY MEMBERS ARRESTED IN HAZING INCIDENT
02-14-2003

Eleven fraternity members at Northwestern State University have been arrested and their fraternity has been suspended for alleged hazing of a pledge.

A twelfth suspect was expected to surrender today.

The case involves Kappa Alpha Psi fraternity. NSU police detective Doug Prescott said a fraternity pledge was beaten during initiation ceremonies Feb. 2 and Feb. 9 at two off-campus locations.

The pledge -- who has resigned from the university -- suffered bruises to his upper body but his injuries were not serious, Prescott said.

The suspects face charges of simple battery, aggravated battery and hazing. NSU police have not have not yet released their names, saying it could affect the investigation.

Kappa Alpha Psi has been suspended from the university pending completion of the investigation, an NSU spokesman said. He said the fraternity was cooperating in the investigation.

Well, he actually had the nerve to post a thread about how he would never be black. I reported it and it was locked. Remember, this is the same creature that referred to Alpha Phi Alpha as a "chicken" fraternity in another post.
:rolleyes:

And honestly y'all, I think quite a few White GLO don't think we are "important". Delta's on my campus are pretty cool with the a few of them(Sigma Chi, Delta Sigma Phi, etc) and one day we were all in a circle at a Sigma Chi party talking. I asked them "seriously, how do you see the NPHC?". They were REALLY honest and told us that most of them on campus don't think we count because our chapters arent that big, and we barely have any houses. And a few said that we have only been around between 70-90 years and that isn't very long(what????:eek: ).

It was a very honest convo and I'm glad that we got raw with it. We told them how some of us felt, but we weren't speaking for all BGLO's. This was about 2 years ago.



QTE

To back how true this quote is...
Have yall seen the movie on Showtime called "Good Fences"?
Starred Whoopi Goldberg and Danny Glover--it was about a balck family "moving on up".

More stimulating (NO REALLY) convo in Greek Life about the Desegregation of Universoty of Alabama's Greek System:

http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showth...threadid=29940

There are about two or three threads on this topic. It got started by someone who asked about Melody Twilley, a Black U of Alabama student who went through NPC rush and was not given a bid. Some say she had a bad attidue throughout the rush process. But, she 'stated' (I don't know her exact words) that she was not given a bid because she is Black.

Anyway, I have participated in some of the U of A threads and I try to emphasize that NPHC sororites are very strong in our community so we, as Black women, look to join them. I suggested that ZTA and Phi Mu, as examples, should be stronger in the minority (read Black) community so if they truly want Black members then when we see them in our community a young Black woman can make that choice between SGR and ZTA if she wants to. I am not holding my breath on seeing NPC in my neighborhood. :(

btw, hoosier IS ALWAYS posting negative articles on BGLOs and Blacks in general. He/She has some real issues.

TTT
 

Re: TTT
 

Good call, ST because this one promises to be the best one yet!

In the words of AKA2D, yes infreakingdeed. :D


ST, CONGRATS on 2000 posts. :cool:

Thank you. GC cracks me up, makes me angry (at times) and makes me think.
I'm glad you let me play.
:) :D

They want to know why we use INC. in our organizations' names. :p

http://forums.greekchat.com/gcforums...threadid=30670

Wasn't that topic of discussion a few years ago?

Peep how my co-mod handled the thread. :D :cool:

I peeped. But because I'm a peace-loving Libra, I took care of the posters' request through PM. But I also call for searches because the board doesn't need to be slogged by repetitive topics.
:D :p

i'm generally a peace loving Libra as well, but sometimes enough is too much.

http://forums.greekchat.com/gcforums...threadid=30767


Hazing and Phi Beta Sigma.