Ghetto fab
 

I pposted this in the social forum too, i am not sure where it would go, but we have a ghetto fab exchange this weekend and i have no idea what to wear!! Can anyone help with cute ideas??? thnkas!!

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Go to a footlocker and look for anything nike or fubu.

The other day I saw a tank top in the mall that looked like a basketball Jersey but it had the Cadillac emblem and instead of a name on the back, it said "Caddy". It was baby blue.

I'd say go get an addidas head band, probably white. Get an all baby blue outfit from Champs, Footlocker, Atheletic attict, Hibbets or whatever sports store you have in your mall. Don't tell the guy at the counter you want to look ghetto, he might get pissed. Thats mainly because alot of ghetto people do work at sports stores.

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OH :o



MY :mad:



GOD!!!! :rolleyes:

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I have truly seen it all now..........

Let me get this straight: Your SORORITY is having a GHETTO FAB (WTF EVER THAT IS) mixer?!?!!?!?


Hmmmmmmmmmmmm betcha someone shows up in blackface. :mad: :rolleyes:

Can I get you all to THINK about your themes? What happened to good old fashioned themes?

GHETTO Fab and then UF Pike, GC's Ghetto Fab Expert:rolleyes: , offers his insight.


Let's not forget to get about 6 big BLING BLING CHAINS to make your ensemble truly authentic. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

CT4, we also can't forget a pair of fresh Air Force Ones :rolleyes:.

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...threadid=29559

Riii riii and since she is a girl, she will have to have COLORED WEAVE. . preferably that matches her outfit.

Oh and then she has to have a celly and2 way attached to her outfit.


GMAFB!!:rolleyes:

AlphaO, just because you are a relatively newly registered member, I will give you the benefit of the doubt and explain a few things to you.

A "Ghetto Fabulous" mixer is definately not appropriate for any group to throw. It is offensive and leads to a lot of other problems. For example, if you do a search you will find a recent incident that involved an NIC fraternity chapter that was disciplined after some people showed up to their "rap tribute" party in blackface. Any type of party like this is going to offend a whole community of people, and does not uphold the spirit of Greek life. I hope that you can find a more appropriate theme for your party. I suppose since it's this weekend, it's a little too late for that, but unless you want to get flamed, I'd advise you to at least not bring up such parties on GC again.

She registered in January 2002 -- new my AZZ. Even if she was new to GC, she is not a new college student. Not everything that is done in the hip hop world is meant to be emulated. College is supposed to be where the leaders are, but hey I guess some of you are the leaders. Look at Bush.

But hey, she came on here to ask opinions and she got mine.

Oh and please let us not forget, she needs to acquire the GHETTO FAB LINGO: Weeeeeeeeeeeeees Siiiiiiiiiiiiiide, Fo Shizzle, Dat's just my baby daddy. . .

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OMG! A ghetto fab party? That sounds WAY fun, I wanna come!

Can I be the one in blackface? Hope so!

Also, if I were you, I would follow UF's advice and go to sports stores for the ghetto fabbest stuff. But if you ask the store clerk and they get ghetto on you, just complain to management. I am sure they will understand.

Although this mixer may not have the best of themes, I think you all flew off of the handle, minus breathes gelatin who remained calm. CrimsonTide4, nobody ever said it was going to be an anti-black party or anything relating to blacks. There are numerous races of people represented in the ghetto. I think you were just out looking for something to pick at. YOU turned this into a “black bashing” event. Look at your location: “Queen City, Norf Wackalacky.” Norf? Isn’t that displaying some sort of hypocrisy?

My personal opinion is that a white trash wedding mixer is more offensive than a ghetto fab mixer. The latter isn’t calling out a certain ethnic group. I’m not saying that a ghetto fab mixer is acceptable, rather, I think you totally made it out to be something that it wasn’t portrayed to be. If it were a black bashing party, don’t you think AlphaO would know how to dress? You said it yourself, “6 big BLING BLING CHAINS.” And she couldn’t forget her “COLORED WEAVE. . preferably that matches her outfit. Oh and then she has to have a celly and2 way attached to her outfit.” But wait, there’s more! “she needs to acquire the GHETTO FAB LINGO: Weeeeeeeeeeeeees Siiiiiiiiiiiiiide, Fo Shizzle, Dat's just my baby daddy. . .” Puh-lease! You don’t see white people making a huge deal about a white trash wedding. You don’t see Latinos crying because you threw a fiesta mixer, complete with piñatas and tequila. And what about luaus? I could go on and on, but I know when to quit, unlike others. Quit complaining and for once, find something else to pick at. Not everyone and everything is anti-black!

WTF!?!?!? How is it hypocrisy that I CHOSE to represent where I live the way I did? Norf = slang; not ghetto fabulousness.



I don't give 2 good damns about white trash wedding mixer. :rolleyes: Whatever the hell that is. My responses were SARCASTIC. Surely you, Ms. Copy and Paste everything I said, knew that my words were sarcasm. Maybe AlphaO will not be doing any of the things that have been noted as signs of GHETTO FABULOUSNESS, but someone at that party will.


You obviously don't read much because you will very seldom find me up in race threads or threads that deal with party mixers, for that matter.

She asked an opinion; I expressed mine. If you or whoever else does not agree, more power to you.

Typically when the words, GHETTO FAB are heard, the associated group is typically BLACK PEOPLE. So that being said, if an NPC Sorority decides to throw a GHETTO FAB party, who will they be emulating? When I see my students, Black and white, acting GHETTO FAB, they sure are not imitating Garth Brooks or Brittney Spears. They are emulating and often times OVER EXAGGERATING Black people.


Do I have a problem with it? NOt really. What irks me is when those who normally would not act or dress in a "ghetto fab" way decide to do so. As we have seen in the past couple of years, folks do not know how to imitate something without going overboard in an offensive matter.

Hmmmm, harsh words, harsh words...

Anyway, I'm not Black nor White but my friends call me "Ghetto Fab". I don't emulate overly exaggerated Black people, nor do I dress and talk like one like one (whatever that means?). I just love the urban culture and music.

I even got the "Ghettoist Sister Award" at our recent formal....is this wrong?

**Note: this is just a question, not an attack:)

Well, all this hoopla is about stereo-types, is it not? Ghetto fab = blacks?? Slang = ghetto. You are trying to eliminate the stereo-type, but are contributing to the perception.

Of course you wouldn't care about a white trash wedding -- it doesn't pertain to blacks. And your response being sarcastic is B.S. How is it that you then go on to say that although AlphaO may not be dressed that way, somebody else will? You keep contradicting yourself.

What I do know is that I rarely find you in the general forums. When I do see you come around, it's to start some crap about race issues.


Okay, Garth Brooks and Britney Spears are not ghetto, so how could they be representative of ghetto fab? You aren't making any sense. YOU think of blacks when you think ghetto; I don't. I think hoodlums -- black, white, chinese, hispanic, purple people, etc. It pertains to all races.

Okay, so country folds should be offended by a barnyard mixer with everyone dancing as cowboys and cowgirls? You know, there are those who do go overboard and show up in nothing but boots and a hat, maybe even some chaps. Do you see me crying because I find that offensive? No, because it's all in good fun!



Oh, and the comment about "Ms. Copy and Paste everything I said" was totally third grade. (oops, I did it again -- copy and paste!!) :rolleyes:

Yup you do have me confused because I am in Chit Chat quite a bit. Let's see what threads have I started and contributed in Chit Chat -- Judy Blume (had nothing to do with race), Married With Children (no race there), The Nasty Sex thread (no race there either), Ann Landers (race, not hardly).

I did not contradict myself in any way whatsoever. I said what I felt.

FYI: Stereotype is one word. I am not keeping with the perception. There are white people down here who speak country slang and say NORF so your argument is not holding up yet again.

You missed the points of my statements and since you cannot keep up with what I said, there is no need to continue talking to you.

Bottom line, the GHETTO FAB theme party is not the absolute best choice when it comes to a party.

I sincerely hope that this person is not a member of my NPC group.

Maybe where she goes to school, this sort of behavior is tolerated, and maybe even seen as cute. It doesn't make it right, but it is not surprising in a lot of places.

In response to the person who posted in response to CT4's post: Just because racism isn't as big an issue to you as it is to other posters (who may or may not have experienced crippling racism in their and their ancestors' lives), it doesn't mean you have the right to toss it aside as "some crap about race issues". :eek: Man, I'm not even from NC, and I know that people of ALL RACES refer to it as "Norf Cackalacky"--it's not ghetto! :rolleyes:

Yeah Norf Cackalacky is just "Country", LOL. :p I just put my own spin on it after all of these winter storms that shut ALL of North Carolina down and called it Wackalacky in honor of the wacky behavior of folks when one inch of snow falls.

I have to say that I find the "ghetto fab" theme idea offensive and I really don't understand the point of it. Maybe I'm a little to PC for my own good, but I really think that all of these themes poking fun at a particular group are pretty offensive and in poor taste -- that includes ghetto fab, white trash, Italian wedding, whatever.

When you really think about it, what are people at a ghetto fab party going to be doing? Excuse me for saying it like this, but everybody knows they're going to be dressing and acting like what they perceive black people in the 'hood dress and act like. I think that is just wrong, insensitive and inappropriate, and if I were advising a chapter that wanted to have such an event, I would certainly object and use it as an opportunity to educate people as to WHY I think it is inappropriate.

What I don't understand is when fun became based on poking fun at or stereotyping others. It seems like there is a lot of that going on lately, and I'm constantly hearing about these "theme" ideas. When did this all start? IN MY DAY (ohhh, I know how old that makes me sound) that stuff didn't happen. Why does it happen now? Why are we as greeks not upholding higher standards than this? Isn't that the point of our organizations -- to uphold the higher standards of womanhood and all that?

I think we should ALWAYS ask ourselves whether what we are doing is constructive and whether it is putting down anyone else, either directly or indirectly. By putting down others we are only putting down ourselves.

(Who wants to bet on how long it will take before this thread gets locked?)

I'm going to admit that I've been to a "Ghetto Fab" party. Nobody came in blackface. Nobody wore fake Afros or fake weaves or anything like that. The girls mostly wore velour J-Lo sweatsuits. The boys wore sweatpants and wifebeaters. Other than that, it wasn't any different from any other party I'd been to so far this year. There were people of every race there and as far as I could see, none of them took offense to the theme.

That said, was it culturally insensitive? Of course. But was it racist? Probably not. It is definitely not something I would want associated with my sorority (this was not a Greek party, nor was it associated with my sorority in any way). If one of my sisters had suggested this as a possible mixer theme, I would have fought it to the bitter end. And had I known the host of this particular party, I probably would have tried to get him/her to change the theme beforehand. Still, as it was, I went, everybody had fun, there were no racial incidents, and I don't think anybody's feelings were hurt.

I think the primary thing here is ignorance -- most of the people at my school, regardless of their race, wouldn't consider a Ghetto Fab party an insult to any culture. They'd just think of it as another way to party. Most of them, if they were really asked to think about it and discuss it, would probably choose a different theme. And I think that is the case for most campuses around the nation.

and i thought university of florida was a place of higher learning. funny how the internet makes your balls so much bigger.

Howdy,

I bet right now. Sheeesh folks!

Do I sound like a broken record? Again, I repeat, these are the forum rules:

1. Please respect one another.

2. Please take personal attacks to PMs, IMs, EMs, or hell, you all can take it to the chatroom! I don't give a damn you don't have to go home, but you have to leave here.

3. For the last time, are you people blind or just stupid? DO NOT REPORT ONE POST MORE THAN ONCE!

4. Don't be a jerk. It's that simple.

This does not pertain to any specific person. So do not take it that way.

ZA

you're joking right? we've already said something about luaus. i know good and well hispanic folks would be hot over a fiesta mixer, ESPECIALLY if people were to dress in a certain way. and delta tau delta did a party in which frat boys dressed up as GI's and the girls were vietnamese hookers, that didn't go well with the asian community. before you say something about how a certain ethnic group will react, why not know something about them first?

Here's the infamous luau thread, for the interested:

http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showth...threadid=28832

SATX*APhi, usually, you seem pretty even-tempered. What is the deal here?

I can't speak for CT4 or Bamboozled, but I was more agitated at UF_Pike's respnse than the actual idea of a ghetto fab party.

CAN such a party be carried out without racial overtones? Maybe. Unlikely though. Face reality...in America, when you think GHETTO you think BLACK, even though "ghetto" refers to class, not race.

If one wanted to have a REALISTIC ghetto party, one would throw it in a project hall with no electricity, no heating/air, and rodent infestations. That is the ghetto.

I would venture to say that this is not the case, and that the org. throwing the party is looking for people to imitate modern urban culture and what MTV/BET portrays as "ghetto fabulous," (which is a really absurd oxymoron).

Just as a side note, defensiveness is rather unbecoming.

I honestly apoligize for even creating the original post, I was unaware that it would cause so much drama. The was by no means my intention. Call me whatever you want, but I never once too he theme of "ghetto fab" as a racial thing. It was never meant to be that. I guarentee that the sisters of my sorority will not be at the event "acting black" or however it is that you "act black." I can see everyone's point, that you may find it offensive, but I bet that I could find something offensive about a lot of the mixers that everyone has had. So again, I am sorry about even bringing it up. I can assure eveyone that no one's intentions were to piss other people off with some stupid theme!

Thank you. My replies for the most part were again a SARCASTIC response based on UF Pike's comments.

AlphaO, I don't know you nor do I dislike you. Your mixer has the POTENTIAL to take a facet of culture, be it Black culture, hip hop culture, and cast it in a negative light. I would hate for 2 weeks from now a newspaper article come out and say "GHETTO FAB PARTY caused RACIAL TENSION at XYZ University."

Yeah, as my Soror stated, anything noted as being ghetto fab automaticaly implies that it is some satire on black life. Several cases make your argument that "we" just look to harp about anti-black stuff.

One: The "rap" (not Black rap, party, was the theme when the white folks showed up in black face.

Two: Look at the first response to her initial question. UK_Pike's response was to go down to footlocker and get some Nike (see the Air Force One's thread and the reference to the Ghetto Quotient...Air Force One's is a rap song by Nelly a Black person in case you didn't know) and FUBU. FUBU last time I checked was For Us By Us and refers specifically to9 Black people. He didn't say go to Bebe, Saks Fifth Avenue, Neiman's or even hell, Express, but Footlocker and get Nike or FUBU.

You need to wake up and stop being delusional and recognize that "we" aren't as ignint (read:ignorant) as you would like to think. We can see some racist shit coming a mile away sweetheart and we are trying to warn the girl before soem shit goes down, which it undoubtedly would.

Damn. I am mad at myself becasue I typically don't read, let alone respond to these types of threads.

OUT!

BTW the reasong my Soror and any other Black person for that matter could care about a white trailer trash wedding theme is because WE don't sit around thinking of "fun" little shit to do while not being cognizant of the obvious undertones that are created by doing such. Yeah, who gives a shit that Justin Timberlake HAD a white trash birthday party with beer and tweenkies instead of cake...he's white. I wonder how many Black folks were there...probably not a lot.

Check the history, the number of times, Blcak folks have had a stereotypically racist theme party are most likely far fewer.

The real problem is that Black culture dominates america and so most things that are labeled ghetto, slang, etc., are inherently Black.

This lack of mixer/theme creativity is the reason why we need to keep music and art programs in schools. :p :D

Ok, back to the subject at hand....

In the defense of SATX Aphi: I think she was more or less relating the issue to a racial issue, that infact people jumped the gun and thought right away that "ghetto fab=racial issue." She stated that she did not condone such an event and wouldn't support it. Her argument was more so to the affect that just because it has the "ghetto fab" theme doesn't mean that it is a straight up racial issue (blackface painted on a white guy and whatnot). And if you think about it, unfortunately there are all races and colors that are located in our "ghettos." As far fetched as that may seem, it's the truth, it's not just related to African-Americans (not in my opinion anyway) and I think SATX APHI was trying to clarify that point.

I don't agree with the theme either, I think it's stupid to be honest, but it's not my mixer - i'd never throw it or attend it, I piss on such a mixer. But if such a mixer did take place, that doesn't mean that a man showing up in blackface will ultimately occur, maybe, maybe not.

A lot of people jumped the gun in this thread - the point, it's a stupid theme/party but it doesn't mean that the theme is backed by racial intent - it could be, but that's not certain.

Ghetto fab mixer theme = BAD, gc peeps = good company, keep it that way, we all get stupid sometimes, sometimes we aren't stupid but people still think that. Back up off the thread a little, calm down, don't say something you will regret, or already do. If you do, I will be forced to HIJACK your thread and you don't want that.


Example of damasa HIJACK:

ok, so my hijack isn't working right now, we'll get back to yo uon that.....

I usually am, you are right. What irritated me was the quick-to-assume ghetto fab = racial attack bash. I never said the mixer theme was an acceptable one. In fact, I said the opposite. The only issue I had here was somebody being so quick to turn this into a racial issue when it wasn't.


damasa, thanks. :) HE got what I was saying!

Yeah...I got it too...but the people who were initially responding in a harsher way were more critical of UF_pike's response than the mixer itself. HIS response had racial overtones in it.

Anyway, all one big miscommunication.

i hate to get in this
 

i really don't want to get in this but "ghetto-fab" is not just black people.....the high school that I came from had many "ghetto" white people and it was just who they were....it is just a style and a way of acting that does not necessarily have to embraced just by people that are black.....i listen to rap music, my friends were air force ones, and whatever else you might think is ghetto...this is just my opinion though

First off,

If anyone dresses like Garth Brooks, they should be drug out into the middle of the road and shot for bein a drugstore cowboy. I mean, crap, he's from Oklahoma after all :D

Secondly,

starang, i don't know if you know this, but i'm pretty sure SATX is in fact, Latina. Based on that, i think she can pretty much speak for Latina sentiments on such parties.

Thirdly,

To me, i think there is a big difference between having a "Ghetto Fab" party and having an "Old South Party" or "Black Music" party, or some of the other party ideas that have resulted in offensive actions. I see a Ghetto Fab party as a bunch of kids wanting to emulate what is currently popular in today's society. Hell, if i went to a Ghetto Fab party i'd throw on a sports jersey and a backwards hat, is that racist? I've seen Kid Rock and Fred Durst do it.

Now, openly calling it a "Black Music" party, or Boyz 'n the hood, or whatever is completely disgraceful and i believe blatently stereotypes African-Americans. However, i think this ghetto fab party was more intended to, like i said, celebrate what is currently the most popular music in this country.

Fourthly,

I'll agree that African-Americans have indeed suffered racial injustices for many years. But to me, a bigger injustice is the way some of MY ancestors, the Native Peoples of this land were treated, being forced off their lands and systematically slaughtered by the government of the US. Their plight hasn't recieved a hundredth of the attention as African-Americans has, and as result they still languish on reservations in atrocious situations that rival any inner city slum in this country. So, while i'm not saying the struggle for equality is completely over for the African-American peoples, it has come a long way as compared to other races in this country.

Kitso
KS 361 days i've visited my family on Pine Ridge in South Dakota and thanked God my mother made it off the Rez

I agreed with much of what you said -- but this? Just because she's Latina doesn't mean that she can speak for all Latinos. Just because I'm female doesn't mean I'm qualified to speak for every single woman in the country, or that the way I view issues relating to women will always be in line with the way the majority of women see them.

There are a lot of Hispanics out there who ARE or would be offended by the idea of a "fiesta"-themed mixer, and that's perfectly legitimate. There are also Hispanics who wouldn't be offended by it, and that's great too -- the ability to laugh at the stereotypes and the ability to educate the ignorant instead of humiliating and punishing them are both great skills, and ones that I think need to be exercised more than they are in cases like this.

Well sugar and spice,

When concerning a Latin-themed party and if it was offensive or not, i would take SATX's word over the word of someone who was not Latina.

I didn't say i appointed her ambassador of American Latinas, what i said was, in that circumstance, i value her point of view.

Kitso
KS 361

Kitso, I thought that you were of Greek heritage. Have I confused you with someone else?

As for the ghetto fabulous theme, it is a bad idea. It can potentially hurt many people's feelings. It's not worth it. What happened to themes like the 1970's or disco or 1980's? We had Fun in the Sun spring break theme. It was fun! :D

Hee. This sums up my thoughts exactly.

I wonder- when Eminem was growing up, was he emulating black people? Being himself? Or was Eminem, indeed- GHETTO FABULOUS?
Questions that no one has the answer to...

And actually I think that the Jewish population on this board should be more upset about this than the african american population.... seeing as how the ghettos are what they were put in before being herded to concentration camps in Nazi Germany- I don't think they put any blacks in there (unless they were Jewish, of course). Ghetto was never a term used for just the african american community... but it was for Jews.

Seriously, Librasoul brought up a valid point that was completely glossed over. How many of you have ever been to the ghetto? For those of you that I haven't lost yet, was it a "fab" experience? What you all are talking about is fashion, not class. Why not call it a Hip-Hop mixer? Oh yeah, because the catch phrase of the year is "ghetto fab". It just amazes me how black culture is so loved and so emulated that now surburban white girls/boys are calling each other ghetto. Man, you don't know a thing about the ghetto. Also, how many of you would call one of your black friends ghetto to their face?

*sitting back waiting for all the stories about how when you were 3, your grandfather's car broke down in a really bad neighborhood and you endured for two whole hours, so how dare I tell you that you don't know about the ghetto.....*

CTFU CTFU CTFU! You are wrong. :D :D :D