Michael Jacko Interview
 

I can't possibly be the first to start a thread about Michael's interview. With all you regular Greekchatter but its been on for about 15 minutes and already I am like WTH? I just don't understand, has this man not been recommended for counseling? This is gonna be a better thread than Bobby and Whitney!

Alright maniquinns (sp?) in the hotel room?

Sex with Tatum O'Neal?:eek:

Things I never wanted to know about Mike?

I'd like to see him and Whitney have a conversation.

I have a new respect for Michael. Michael is very smart and is just having a hard time with everything. Michael is almost larger than life. People are paralyzed by just seeing him. He has more money that the Federal Reserve. He grew up in the limelight. He has never had a real childhood. Imagine having all of this hoopla over YOU. I know that I have star quality :D, but damn! Most people turn to drugs and break down (Cough...cough...Whitney...cough). Mike has just had a few face lifts, takes care of kids, parties like a big kid, donates to charities, yadda yadda yadda. Folks need to get off of his back.

I wanna be, I wanna be like MIKE!

No way, I am sorry. I feel sorry that Michael missed out on childhood, I can't even imagine. However people experience all kinds of trauma that causes childhood to be missed. Having slumber parties with thirteen year old boys, being obsessed with childhood and staying young forever is not NORMAL behavior. This man denied having plastic surgery! I can only imagine the devastating effect his abuse had on his development as an adult but somewhere he has to be responsible for his inappropriate behavior. If 44 yr old Joe the trashman was having sleep overs with 13 yr olds because his abused childhood he would be sitting behind bars. If Mike wants to be a child its his life and his money but lets clearly identify that this man is crazy!

Exactly. I'm convinced he is mentally disturbed, but this is nothing new. This interview just further proved my opinions. How in the world do you grow up in the lime light and then think that I forgot how you looked years ago? Mike, you had waaaaaaaay more than 2 plastic surgeries. Did anyone check his nail beds and the contrast in color between his skin color under his nail beds and his fingers? Now I see why he keeps his fingers taped.

His fascination with children and childlike behavior is disturbing. Also his behavior with his children. And if he wants me to believe one of his daughters is by a black woman he's about as crazy as he looks. Watching his interview and his weird behavior is like seeing a bad car accident, you can't help but look. His interview got boring in the end though. It's just so much of this wierdo I can take in one evening. :rolleyes:

Not only is he crazy (ringadingadingdong), he's also a liar. Only had plastic surgery on his nose? Yeah, Riiiiiiiiiiiiight? Who is he fooling? Is he serious? Does he believe that he looks that way because he's "still changing" like during puberty? That's gotta be the CRAZY talking...

There's just so much that I want to say but, where do I begin? *sigh* Bottom line, that interview disturbed me. I'm almost sorry I watched it. :(

Growing up, MJ used to be THE man. Now, he just creeps me out....

I went to sleep after about 30 minutes but I had the VCR set up to tape the rest of the show. The 30 minutes that I saw was kinda creepy. Climbing trees and whatnot. His affection toward young children is very scary to me. When I woke up, I saw Primetime Live and they were showing the part where he had that boy laying up on him and Mike said that the boy's folks were all right with it! WTF?? I could not believe that. But then for the right of amount of $$ some people would be all right with anything. Not me. I guess I'll watch the rest of the interview now.

I feel sad for him.
 

After watching the entire interview and the followup on Prime Time, I believe that Bashir did indeed slant the whole thing to his on purpose of making Michael look bad. Watching the promos for the show made it sound much worse than it was and the obvious spin at the end made me think that Michael does have the right to feel betrayed by this man he let into his life for 8 months.

Michael was obviously traumatized by his childhood, and I suspect he is on meds probably for bi-polar (which may explain the manic behavior in Berlin). The discoloration of his nail beds is indicative of someone who is ill or are meds and could be from the vitiligo. Yes, I do believe that he has the affliction and yes I'm guessing that he had skin peels (or whatever) to eliminate the spotting, especially after suffering the trauma from childhood about his acne.

I also think the whole thing about kids sleeping in the bedroom was blown out of proportion. I believe that he is asexual (he said that he did not have sex with Tatum) and did not and will not sexually assault any children. And really I couldn't care less how many facial surgeries he has had--2 or 20. If he wants to look like and be Peter Pan, that's cool too. There are worse things than wanting to be eternally young, like being eternally messed up on crack.

But IMHO, Mr. Bashir (and Barbara Walters in her commentaries) artfully edited and spun the documentary in a way that was solely for the purpose of sensationalism and discreditation.

I left the whole thing deeply concerned about Michael--concerned more of what he might do to himself when he can no longer hide the aging process. I honestly believe he may commit suicide before he turns 50.

First Whitney, now MJ...Why?
 

I feel sorry for him.

He is a liar. He said that the youngest child was for someone he had a relationship with. THHHHHHENNNNN, he says that the mother was a surrogate and he didn't know who she was.

I think he is bipolar, manic depressive or something. Maybe he is on drugs too. By the time he had the last interview in Miami, it seemed like he was anxious. Did you all hear how he was tapping his hands I guess on his legs?

He was about to suffocate that baby when he fed him.
:eek: He didn't even "burp" the baby. Prince and Paris' nanny is a sista. I was surprised. Didn't it seem like they didn't want to keep the camera on her?

Babara Walters made me :mad:. It seems like she is totally against MJ. He has issues, he needs help, but dang!

The kids don't need a mother...wtf?

Did anyone see how Prince's hair is like blonde, but the roots are sandy (more dark) and kind of kinky? Those kids are going to be strange, even though he is trying to "protect" them.

I fell asleep before I could hear what the medical doctor was to say about the number of surgeries he has allegedly had.

I loved MJ, but I can admit that he needs serious help.


I see that Christina A. is next. :rolleyes:

ABC evidently needs its ratings to improve .

GC Family,

I was so DISTURBED by the show last night I was near tears. He says he does not abuse his children. Not all abuse is physical. :rolleyes: He was allowed to take his daughter out of the hospital FRESH out of the womb...placenta covered and all. You don't DO that. Those kids were almost trampled on at that zoo and he was like "Oh as long as I got to see the baboons". :mad: WTF. I do not let my Christopher get any where NEAR harms way.
And why in the hell was he bouncing that baby like that while he was giving him a bottle? Maybe if he moved that scarf out of the way the boy could suck the nipple. The 13 year old boy laying all over him during the interview? WTF? Were is his Momma? He has children all in his bed. A bed full of love his says. NO.

Michael is GONE. I understand he had an abusive childhood but he needs help and those children need to be snatched up and taken away while he gets help.

Re: First Whitney, now MJ...Why?
 

I noticed that.

My husband pointed that out to me. He was like check that kids ROOTS.

If you missed it, you can read about it:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Musi...iew/index.html

The ROOTS say it all. Just ask Mariah...

Re: I feel sad for him.
 

I agree with you and Redefined Diva. I honestly feel sorry for him. NO one knows what happened in the Jackson household but that family. I too agree that he is asexual, I mean no matter how he looks there would have still been plenty of women who would have slept with him just to have his baby... I don't agree with him having those kids in his bed like that, but I didn't like Bashir's style of interviewing and like Michael said at the end he pretty much backstabbed him in the trust department. It has to be a hard thing to go through life having had no childhood, and go through physical and mental abuse. I mean Janet had an interview with MSNBC and her last words were "one day I will hopefully be able to love myself", so all of them can't be telling the same lie. I just feel really bad for them all, because at least from what I saw in that interview last night Michael is just broken and no amount of money in the world can mend it as we can see already.

I rarely post on Greekchat but I am always crackin' up at your posts. Anyway, when I was watching the MJ interview, I was thinking the exact same thing. Now I know why he tapes his fingers! Gross :eek:

I can still remember when I saw Michael Jackson and the Jackson 5's Victory tour at the Gator Bowl in Jacksonville, Florida. I was a young child at the time, but I can still remember vividly how in awe I was of Michael at the time. I had the glove and all. Speed it up time some 20 years later, and the Michael of today is not the Michael I admired. I have a 2 year old, and there's no way I'd let him near Michael. He said that he finds sleeping with children enchanting! WTF, Chester, Chester Child Molester! That's the sickest ish I've ever heard. Sad, Sad, Sad.

Re: I feel sad for him.
 

That sounds about right, Ladygreek. Plus I believe that he may be a bit delusional. Whatever the case, it's still a very sad one.

On another note, this morning's news said that since the interview, sales of his "Thriller" album have increased by like 400%. Michael is still getting paid!!!

Yep I checked those bleached roots as well. The bleach/hair coloring could be the reason for the kinks because bringing hair up to the blonde level from brown can change the density and structure of the hair especially, with a young child who's hair isn't strong enough to withstand the chemicals.

If you don't love yourself, how can you love all these children?

I believe Joe has given all his children a sense of insecurity. Michael has had all these plastic surgeries to get away from the "old big nose, pimple face Michael." I don't see why he thought of himself as ugly, but I also don't/didn't have Joe Jackson as a father either. If plastic surgery Michael doesn't have to look at the "old big nose pimple face" Michael in the mirror, he doesn't have to relate or face what happened and how he was treated during that time in his life. I think surgery is an attempt to forget the past. His quest for perfection went to the extreme and is now a complete disaster.

Still convinced, he's mentally disturbed. And the parents need to be shot for allowing their children to be in Michael's bed, cancer patient or not.

His story makes me shake my head in disbelief. He is truly living in his own delusional world.

Back in the day, he was the man.

Amen!

It was reported last night that one of the brothers denies the claims that Joe "tore their azzes up". I wonder which one was that? Randy perhaps?

If Janet had crap done to her, his azz had crap done to him too. What?Did Joe go on a sabbatical from whooping butt? :rolleyes: Oh, maybe that was the time when Joe was stepping out on Kate.
:o

I think it was Jermaine

Poor Mike
 

I think that MJ is trying to re-create the childhood that he did not have and I truly feel sorry for him. But he is a man now whether he want's to accept it or not, he IS NOT Peter Pan.

I can understand him not wanting his children to undergo public scrutiny, but he is in a sense doing the same thing to them that was done to him. He is not allowing them to have a normal childhood (no mother, no school, no friends,etc). He said that growing up he wished that he could just wear a mask, is this why he makes his children wear one at all times? That cannot be healthy for a child growing up. I know that he loves children, but he has to think that they are going to be adults one day too and he needs to start preparing them for that now just like a normal parent. I think he just sees them as objects of affection and little playmates right now.

And the whole "I am still changing" comment. Changing into what exactly. I know people with Vitiligo (sp?). Never have I seen anyone turn completely white. And if they do conceal the affected skin they use something in their own natural skin tone. He has more than enough money to make sure the condition does not go that far. And face it Mike, you have had more than 2 nose jobs :rolleyes: .

All in all I hope that he can find the love that he needs in himself. I think we should all pray for him.

bleaching a child's hair:rolleyes: :rolleyes: just because he isn't satisfied with the way it looks. Pulleaze. His kids will grow up to hate him like he dislikes his father. Oh sure he says...he still loves Joe but I don't think so.

It was such a laugh when he climbed up in the tree. He likes climbing trees instead of "knocking boots"...:D :D instead of being intimate.

Re: I feel sad for him.
 

Hello all, it has been a while!!! I agree with your points except for the suicide part. I think the only way that might happen is if perhaps if/when his children do something to disappoint him. I think Bashir really putting a more sensationalist spin on behavior that is nothing new. What was the most sad was how he was so emotionally about his childhood. It takes a lot of guts to talk about something so painful. It was sad to see how he really hasn't worked through all of that. What was comforting to know was that he has forgiven his father and moved forward. That speaks volumes to me because too many of us have not reached that point in our lives.

I feel that Michael should just stop giving interviews. No one is going to forget him. He should follow Barbra Steisand's lead for example and do a big concert every decade or so and put out an album every decade or so. He is talented and based upon the response by the crowds during the interview, he is still loved by so many people.

I love Michael, white Michael or black Michael, he is simply the greatest!!

Re: Re: I feel sad for him.
 

As a Qualified Mental Health Professional, I would say (based on other people's comments because I did not see the interview), that due to his response to the subject, Michael OBVIOUSLY has not even BEGUN to address his issues. You see, the way that therapy works is that 9 times out of 10 it (therapy) won't "cure" you or make feelings go away, BUT therapy is a tool which helps people to be able to COPE better with their issues. Micheal Jackson's coping skills are in NO WAY "normal". And this just goes to show that parents have an ENORMOUS effect on their children's lives.


Now about THIS comment.... Darling1, what in the world makes you think that Michael "has FORGIVEN his father and MOVED FORWARD"? It's IMPOSSIBLE for him to have done this because, to ME, he wouldn't be demonstrating these types of behaviors AND, as far as the "moving forward" component goes, this 44-YEAR-OLD man is STUCK in his CHILDHOOD. Now HOW in the world is THAT "moving forward"?

In essence, in my opinion, Michael Jackson has some SERIOUS Mental Health issues which COULD potentially be dangerous. I wouldn't be shocked to learn that he's been hallucinating or hearing voices. Joe Jackson REALLY messed this man up and it's truly, truly sad.

Re: I feel sad for him.
 

YES YES YES. GREAT post!!

:rolleyes: Nope, I'm not buying the sad story. I feel sorry for his childhood, I feel bad for the abuse and the torture he obviuosly had to endure. However because he is a "multi-platinum, once-in-a-lifetime talented musicican and entertainer" who has impacted not only music but worthy causes, DOES NOT MEAN he can live in a delusional world of make believe and justify it based on things that happened over 30 years ago. This may be a poor example but do you know how many people grow up to murder and rob who had far more dramatic childhoods than Mike. As a society we make no excuses for them, in fact we often sentence them to long jail terms and even death. Can the fact that Mike was abused and is "delusional" be a valid reason or excuse for his behavior. This man truly saw nothing wrong with taking a baby and a placenta home. He needs mental help, there is no doubt in my mind that all these irrational decisions are a result of a warped mental status.

Re: Re: Re: I feel sad for him.
 

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NOTE: MY CAPS DO NOT DENOTE ME YELLING, I AM JUST NOT SURE HOW TO CHANGE THE FONTS :).

OK, AS SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN IN THERAPY AND BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE, I FEEL THAT IN SOME WAY HE HAS BEGUN TO ADDRESS HIS ISSUES. I FEEL THAT IT DOES TAKE ALOT TO SAY THAT YOU FORGIVE SOMEONE. IT HAS TAKEN ME 25 YEARS TO BE ABLE TO VERBALIZE THOSE EXACT SENTIMENTS RELATIVE TO MY ISSUES. TO ME THAT IS A STEP FORWARD. DO I BELIEVE HE HAS MANY MORE STEPS TO TAKE, GOD YES. BUT I STILL THINK THAT HE HAS FOUND SOME WAY TO LIVE A LIFE THAT IS THE MOST POSITIVE FOR HIM. NOW IT ISN'T THE BEST NOT THE IDEAL. THE IDEAL IN MY EYES WOULD BE FOR HIM TO BE ABLE TO LIVE COMFORTABLY IN THIS WORLD WITH ALL OF HIS EXPERIENCES, BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT HIS ISSUES WITHOUT GETTING SO EMOTIONAL AND SAD. I THINK THE FACT THAT HE CAN TALK ABOUT HIS STUFF SPEAKS VOLUMES BECAUSE I SPENT YEARS NOT BEING ABLE TO FULLY DISCUSS THE THINGS THAT I WENT THROUGH. AS A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL, YOU WILL SEE THINGS DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE OF THE EXPERTISE YOU HAVE. AS SOMEONE WHO HAS LIVED SOME OF THE THINGS MICHAEL HAS LIVED, I COME FROM A DIFFERENT THOUGHT PROCESS. I HOPE THAT THIS HELPS YOU TO UNDERSTAND MY POINT A BIT CLEARER. IF NOT, THEN WE WILL HAVE TO AGREE TO DISAGREE.

Re: Re: Re: Re: I feel sad for him.
 

I clearly understand what you're saying...and hey, everyone has "stuff". What I'M saying is that the ability to FORGIVE someone goes far deeper than just being able to SAY it. Just think about it. We have a tendency to SAY with ease that we forgive someone for something, yet, in many situations, it continues to have a negative effect on our lives (one way or another). Heck, even JANET JACKSON herself said that she has to learn how to love/like herself (and we don't see her even HALF as messed up as Michael). Remember it's not so much HOW MUCH someone talks about his/her issues, it's about WHAT he/she says and feels and his/her DESIRE and ABILITY to learn how to cope in EFFECTIVE ways. THIS is what therapy helps you do.

Now it IS true that, as a Mental Health therapist, my job is to be OBJECTIVE and, in many cases, play the "devil's advocate". BUT I want you to know that I'm HUMAN first. And you'll be surprised to learn that over 50 percent of social workers and counselors are people who HAVE or have gone through major issues much like their clients (and Michael Jackson). I'M NO EXCEPTION! IF only you knew even HALF of what MY childhood was like....

So having said that, I DO indeed UNDERSTAND your "thought process". HOWEVER, I'm a REALIST. And I truly believe that THERAPY IS ABOUT BEING "TRUE TO THY SELF". It has nothing to do with what I think about YOU, it's about what YOU think about you and what YOU want to do about it. My question is, what is Michael Jackson doing about his issues? Just look at how he's allowing them to govern his life.

Just think about this. Yes, I empathize with his having to deal with an abusive father (I PERSONALLY know first-hand what this is like) and any other stuff that he's gone through. But it's WAAAYYY past the point for Michael Jackson to deal with those things so that he CAN "move forward". I ALWAYS tell my clients that it's one thing to not seek help if you just don't know. One can't be held accountable for what he/she does not know. But it's a totally different story when you DO know and you do NOTHING about it. At this point, although Michael is an adult and lives in his own home, I would say that Joe Jackson is STILL in control...because MICHEAL is allowing it to be.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I feel sad for him.
 

It is definitely easier to say, "I forgive you" than to actually go through the process. It is obvious that Joe Jackson still has a hold on Michael. It is a shame what abuse, physical and/or psychological can do to someone.

I think both you and I can write a very thick novel on our life stories. I am convinced that there was something in the water during the '70's. I tell ya' thank God for his grace. Who know where I would be!!!!

:eek:

I just watched the special on tape and all I have to say is WOW. I think he
means well...but he is QUITE disturbed. I just wished that they could've shown
more of the documentary, I could tell it was very edited (more than usual), I don't know what to
believe and what not (about the doc the didn't show).

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I feel sad for him.
 

You, I, and MILLIONS of others could probably relate and write a book about our dysfunctional families and many issues in our lives. That's the truth.

I DO thank God for His grace and mercy. And I also thank Him for saving me and filling me with the Holy Ghost. It's the ANOINTING that makes the difference.

Although I am a professional counselor and there's the correct professional "jargon", books, and articles that are used to "diagnose" and advise people, I WILL say, plain and simple, that Michael Jackson needs JESUS. I KNOW that if it were not for Jesus in MY life, I myself would probably be just as bad (or even worse) than Michael. All I can do is pray for him.

TO GOD BE AAALLLLL OF THE GLORY!!!!!!

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I feel sad for him.
 

Girl, do not get me to shoutin' this morning!!!! The anointing does make a difference!! I am such a walking testimony. For a long time I would wonder why things happen the way they did but as I got better and my life started positively changing, so many of my friends have sought me for guidance. I have even had some on line sisterfriends chat with me. It makes all of the stuff I have gone through so much easier to deal with. God is truly awesome!!

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/mjdec1.html

This is from the kid that Michael was accused of molesting in 1993 -- court documents and such.

I watched the special on MJ and I now believe that there is an inverse relationship between a person's wealth and their sanity. As they get richer, they get crazier. MJ is a perfect example. I realize that he is still dealing with issues from his childhood, but honestly, who isn't. I know people who had much worse childhoods and are not having all of the emotional and mental problems that Michael is having.

I missed the first hour of the special. Was their any mention of Michael practicing any religion? I truly believe that he needs to accept Jesus into his heart and pray for help. The Lord is the best therapy.

I tell ya, the thing that I love about that smoking gun website is that not only do they get the story, but they usually end up getting the whole story, documents and all. lol

But seriously, after veiwing the documentary, I am convinced that Michael truly has some serious issues. I'm not about to down him or anything, I'll just say that he is truly in my prayers, right along with Whitney and Bobby. What is this world coming to?

Last I heard, Michael and the rest of the Jacksons are Jehovah's Witnesses. I don't know if he is still practicing.

Jackson says he'll hit back with video of interviewer...
 

LONDON, England (Reuters)

Pop icon Michael Jackson said on Sunday he would authorise the release of video footage to prove a British television documentary about his private life was misleading and unfair.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Musi...eut/index.html

P.S. For future reference, can someone tell me how to rename a link? For example, I wanted the above link to say "Read Full Story Here". How do I do that? Please PM me, so as not to hijack this thread. Thanks!

I don't think that he nor some of his other siblings are practicing. I've heard him and Janet speak of God, unless they refer to HIM/HER as God. :confused:

Did you notice the big ole Christmas Tree? That is not of the JW.

I remember when he was criticized by the JWs for the Thriller video (the portrayal of dead people and evil) and he took it off the market and refused to allow it to be shown. Then a few years later it was announced that he had left the religion and Thriller was re-released.

And true about the Christmas Tree because it is my understanding that they do not celebrate holidays, not even birthdays.

Ok I've been ghost for a minute but i have to say a few things

1. Ok why did Joe Jackson make the comment about Mike saying he regurgitated? Joe said "if he 'gurgitated, he gurgitated all the way to the bank":eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Damn!

2. Now I don't know about you, but I have seen quite a few documentries and NOT ONE have I seen the person doing the interview "give his opinion" on it! Basir ought to be ashamed. And don't think I didn't catch Barbra Walters "sly comments" before every break. She just mad cause Oprah got the BIG interview first:rolleyes:


3. I now truly believe that Mike DID NOT molest any kids. He's been sleeping with kids all this time and only one comes forward? Please! And Even O'Reilly said that the report on the smoking gun was WAY too advanced for a 12 year old to say. He got his 25 million and he's cool!

4. I don't agree that mike should be in the bed with the kids(did you see how the little boy was holding his hand and head on his shoulder like he was in love? ok really wierd) but let get real here folks. THE WHOLE FAMILY IS OFF. Mike is just the most "touched" out the bunch. If you think back, the whole family has done "odd" things. Joe ought to be skinned alive if he was doing that to those kids.

FYI FYI FYI FYI
 

VH1 will rebroadcast the MJ interview on

Saturday @ 9PM EST
Sunday @ 8PM EST
Monday @ 10PM EST