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valkyrie 02-01-2003 01:32 PM

Laci Peterson
 
I'm not sure if this really belongs on the "news" thread, but what the hell.

I've been sort of following the Laci Peterson story since I first saw it on CNN. Last night, I found the Laci Peterson website and finally read the whole story:

Laci Peterson's Story

Has anyone else been following this at all? It's really tragic. Does anybody have any theories as to what really happened to her?

FiReKraCkEr 02-01-2003 01:36 PM

I really think that her husband had something to do with it. Usually, when a person is missing.....a family member/spouse is the one who did something.

KappaTarzan 02-02-2003 01:36 AM

its such a sad story.. she is very pregnant.. my hopes and thoughts are with her and her unborn (maybe newborn?) baby..

Nikki_DZ 02-02-2003 11:49 AM

I've been really interested in this story, too.

My theory is that Scott, who is a SHIESTY MF (seriously, he just gives me the creeps) killed her and the baby. I think she found out about the affair, confronted him, told him she was leaving, etc., and he off'ed her and the baby so he wouldn't have to pay alimony and/or child support. Even her family doesn't believe him any more. What a jackass.

My co-worker's theory is that she took off out of the country to have that baby when she found out about the affair so that he wouldn't have visitation rights, etc. I don't know about that.

I hope that they find her and the child alive and healthy, but it's pretty unlikely at this point :(

greeklawgirl 02-02-2003 12:15 PM

When it first happened, I thought that perhaps someone had kidnapped her for the baby. Every once in a while you hear stories about women or couples who are desperate to be parents and they do something crazy to get a child.
Now, though, I think the husband had some role in her disappearance. The man is morally repulsive.

I pray for her and her child. The whole story is just too sad for words.

James 02-02-2003 01:49 PM

Why is he morally repulsive? Did I miss an update?

damasa 02-02-2003 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KappaTarzan
she is very pregnant.
Not to hijack this thread but what does it mean if a woman is "very pregnant?" I always thought that either she's pregnant or not?

:)

greeklawgirl 02-02-2003 02:02 PM

James--in my opinion--a man who would have an affair, admit it to his wife, continue the liaison anyway, AND do it when his wife is eight months pregnant...in my book, that's morally repulsive.

I think extramarital affairs are a huge breach of trust to begin with, but to do so when your wife is carrying your child, its even worse.

James 02-02-2003 02:42 PM

Agravated moral assault?


Quote:

Originally posted by greeklawgirl
James--in my opinion--a man who would have an affair, admit it to his wife, continue the liaison anyway, AND do it when his wife is eight months pregnant...in my book, that's morally repulsive.

I think extramarital affairs are a huge breach of trust to begin with, but to do so when your wife is carrying your child, its even worse.


UF_PikePC98 02-02-2003 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by greeklawgirl
James--in my opinion--a man who would have an affair, admit it to his wife, continue the liaison anyway, AND do it when his wife is eight months pregnant...in my book, that's morally repulsive.

I think extramarital affairs are a huge breach of trust to begin with, but to do so when your wife is carrying your child, its even worse.



Do you find Hugh Heffner's lifestyle morally repulsive?

doubleblue&gold 02-02-2003 03:02 PM

To me it's morally repulsive to be married and screw around whether it's the husband or the wife. I realise Scott Peterson isn't the first to find some on the side when his wife is pregnant. But...you just don't screw around when you're married (which Hugh Hefner is not). Stay committed to your spouse or get a divorce!

chideltjen 02-02-2003 03:05 PM

i spend most of my time in Northern California and Modesto is about an hour away from Sacramento. So every minor detail gets reported on the evening news.

To me, it all sounds like something I would see on an evening drama like "CSI" or "Without a Trace." Woman disappears. Husband has a shady alibi. There is no trace of woman for over a month. Suddenly there are rumors of an affair and whatnot. Was someone watching a lot of TV or what?

Scott Peterson was on "America's Most Wanted" last night (funny...). He completely ignored and refused to answer most of the questions saying they were not appropriate to be asked in this forum. The questions were "How did your wife handle herself when you told her you were having an affair?" "Why did you go to the Berekely Marina on Christmas Eve, leaving your 8 month pregnant wife?" and the ever so blunt "So did you kill your wife?" Even that question he gave a very vague answer to.

In my cynical opinion, if a missing person does not turn up within 48 hours or there are no substantial clues to lead them in some direction in 48 hours, the person is most likely not alive.

Oh, and did you all here about the store clerk in Washington (St) that claimed she might have seen Laci at her checkout stand and the woman (also very pregnant and with another man) said she had been kidnapped and to call police? The woman "forgot" about it and didn't contact the authorities til about a month later after seeing a report on CNN. Jeez... how do you forget something like that???? Maybe cuz it didn't happen??

greeklawgirl 02-02-2003 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
Agravated moral assault?
(Chuckling) I never thought about it in quite those terms, but if the shoe fits....

I don't claim to be the be-all end-all authority on how to live a moral life, but I have my convictions and I stand by them.

James 02-02-2003 03:39 PM

He only had the affair for a month. It wasn't the long term thing that you would think that would inspire murder.

No big deal.

What happened to Lacy we just don't know. But obviously all the normal reasons for a husband to kill his wife are absent.

People are gravitating to him now because they have no one else to blame lol.

It just takes too long to find it all out! Where is Law and ORder when you need it. It would be wrapped up in an hour.

Also, its pretty cool that he told his wife about the affair. It meant that he told her pretty quickly, less than a month.

valkyrie 02-02-2003 06:04 PM

I don't think he ever told Laci about the affair.

He says now that he told her about it and she was "okay" with it although unhappy. First of all, I really doubt that she would've been "okay" with it, although of course I don't know her so I could be wrong.

Also, we have no outside verification that he is telling the truth. Laci was a woman who called a ton of friends and family at 7 a.m. after she found out she was pregnant (can you tell I spent too much time reading about it this weekend?)...do you REALLY think that's a woman who would tell NOBODY that her husband admitted he was having an affair? I think she would've told SOMEONE.

James 02-02-2003 06:10 PM

Valk,

Unless it turns out that his infideilty is directly related to Lacy's dissapearance then its a non-issue. I know its a matter of deception and betrayal lol . . . but its one of those sex/relationship issues. And EVERYONE lies about sex and relationship issues.

Not many men/women want to admit they are cheating do they? And talk about a wrong moment!

The police ruled amber out as a suspect which kind of throws the the whole kill-wife-for-mistress-angle out.

The only way that Amber would be a factor is if it turns out that he killed his wife because she found out . . . in some kind of panic.

Maybe she absconded (Gr?) with some billionaire for a whole new life?

What was that movie where the Husband frames his wife for murder? No body but leaves enough circumstantial clues? "Double Jeapoardy"?

Maybe aliens got her?




Quote:

Originally posted by valkyrie
I don't think he ever told Laci about the affair.

He says now that he told her about it and she was "okay" with it although unhappy. First of all, I really doubt that she would've been "okay" with it, although of course I don't know her so I could be wrong.

Also, we have no outside verification that he is telling the truth. Laci was a woman who called a ton of friends and family at 7 a.m. after she found out she was pregnant (can you tell I spent too much time reading about it this weekend?)...do you REALLY think that's a woman who would tell NOBODY that her husband admitted he was having an affair? I think she would've told SOMEONE.


librasoul22 02-02-2003 08:18 PM

Actually his infidelity is relevant because it is a testament to his character. Not only will he cheat on his wife, but he will lie about it after the fact. Now, you posit that EVERYONE lies about these issues (which, I myself am guilty of, lol, but surely you can't speak for EVERYONE), does that justify it? Not really.

Just because the mistress was ruled out as a suspect doesn't mean the husband didn't kill her. It just means that the poor girl who he cheated with isn't under suspicion (it is my understanding that she was under the impression that the guy was single throughout their affair).

Quote:

Originally posted by James
Valk,

Unless it turns out that his infideilty is directly related to Lacy's dissapearance then its a non-issue. I know its a matter of deception and betrayal lol . . . but its one of those sex/relationship issues. And EVERYONE lies about sex and relationship issues.

Not many men/women want to admit they are cheating do they? And talk about a wrong moment!

The police ruled amber out as a suspect which kind of throws the the whole kill-wife-for-mistress-angle out.

The only way that Amber would be a factor is if it turns out that he killed his wife because she found out . . . in some kind of panic.

Maybe she absconded (Gr?) with some billionaire for a whole new life?

What was that movie where the Husband frames his wife for murder? No body but leaves enough circumstantial clues? "Double Jeapoardy"?

Maybe aliens got her?


UF_PikePC98 02-03-2003 01:23 AM

My take on this situation.....




Personally I think the guy flipped out and wacked his wife. I'm guessing since she was pregnant it had something to do with the baby.

My guess is that she woke up one day and told her husband that she might be pregnant with not just his baby. The guy probably flipped out. I guess he told her that he needed to get away from her for a little bit, hence the vacation. When he went away he had her whacked.

chideltjen 02-03-2003 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ariesrising
My first thoughts when I heard about his, ehm, alibi was "Who the hell goes fishing 80 miles from home on Christmas Eve?"

Answer: A guy who's dumping his dead wife's body, that's who.


that's what i am saying...

valkyrie 02-03-2003 02:16 PM

James, I wasn't commenting on the relevance of him having an affair. My comment that I didn't think he told her about the affair was only in response to you saying that it was cool that he told her. I don't think he did.

I'm still not sure what to think about the case. If he did kill her and dump her into the lake where he went fishing, I think that her body would have been found there and it hasn't been.

I'm also very curious about this store clerk in Washington state who says she saw a pregnant woman who said she had been kidnapped. If that clerk is accurate (and a complete dumbass for "forgetting" to call the authorities) it puts an interesting twist to the story. My thoughts are -- Scott drugged her to knock her out, wrapped her in a tarp and put her in his truck. He then drove to work, got the boat, took her to the marina where he went fishing and by then she was awake and he handed her off to the kidnapper (hence the screaming heard by someone at the marina that morning), and now she is in the custody of someone against her will. Of course I'm probably totally wrong and I have no idea WHY he would do this. If you've been having an affair with someone for only a month, I really don't see how it would make you want to get rid of your spouse. His relationship with Amber couldn't have been TOO intense because she did go to the police as soon as she found out that he was involved with the case and married.

James 02-03-2003 02:24 PM

Much as I love you I have to respectfully disagree here.

Yes, infidelity may something about his character. also lying.

However, there is a big difference between watning a piece of ass on the side and not wanting to ge in trouble for it, than hacking up your wife and feeding her to the fishies.

I know you ladies can't differentiate the two, and think of cheating, rape, and murder in the same category (Except when it's you doing the cheating with a Cabana boy on vacation) but there is a difference.

If there was a direct correlation between cheating/lying and partner killing, there would be an AWFUL lot of dead people out there lol.



Quote:

Originally posted by librasoul22
Actually his infidelity is relevant because it is a testament to his character. Not only will he cheat on his wife, but he will lie about it after the fact. Now, you posit that EVERYONE lies about these issues (which, I myself am guilty of, lol, but surely you can't speak for EVERYONE), does that justify it? Not really.

Just because the mistress was ruled out as a suspect doesn't mean the husband didn't kill her. It just means that the poor girl who he cheated with isn't under suspicion (it is my understanding that she was under the impression that the guy was single throughout their affair).


librasoul22 02-03-2003 02:36 PM

Correct yourself. I never said he killed her, I said his infidelity had bearing on the case.

I know you love to generalize women (no matter the subject, for soe reason). Sorry to disappoint you.

Quote:

Originally posted by James
Much as I love you I have to respectfully disagree here.

Yes, infidelity may something about his character. also lying.

However, there is a big difference between watning a piece of ass on the side and not wanting to ge in trouble for it, than hacking up your wife and feeding her to the fishies.

I know you ladies can't differentiate the two, and think of cheating, rape, and murder in the same category (Except when it's you doing the cheating with a Cabana boy on vacation) but there is a difference.

If there was a direct correlation between cheating/lying and partner killing, there would be an AWFUL lot of dead people out there lol.


librasoul22 02-03-2003 02:53 PM

Correct yourself. I never said he killed her, I said his infidelity had bearing on the case.

I know you love to generalize women (no matter the subject, for soe reason). Sorry to disappoint you.

Quote:

Originally posted by James
Much as I love you I have to respectfully disagree here.

Yes, infidelity may something about his character. also lying.

However, there is a big difference between watning a piece of ass on the side and not wanting to ge in trouble for it, than hacking up your wife and feeding her to the fishies.

I know you ladies can't differentiate the two, and think of cheating, rape, and murder in the same category (Except when it's you doing the cheating with a Cabana boy on vacation) but there is a difference.

If there was a direct correlation between cheating/lying and partner killing, there would be an AWFUL lot of dead people out there lol.


Peaches-n-Cream 02-03-2003 08:11 PM

I have no idea what happened, but I think that he was probably involved with her disappearence. It's just a feeling that I have.

SATX*APhi 02-05-2003 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ariesrising
My first thoughts when I heard about his, ehm, alibi was "Who the hell goes fishing 80 miles from home on Christmas Eve?"

Answer: A guy who's dumping his dead wife's body, that's who.

And it was a "spur of the moment" trip, if you will. The boat was at his office while he was doing some work and decided to go for a short fishing trip. I also have this gut feeling that he is involved with her disappearance. Check out the article I've posted below.

SATX*APhi 02-05-2003 12:30 PM

Husband sells missing wife's SUV

SAN FRANCISCO, California (CNN) -- Scott Peterson recently sold his missing pregnant wife's Land Rover because he can no longer afford a rental after police impounded his truck, his sister told CNN Tuesday.

Peterson bought another pickup truck as a replacement.

Susan Caudillo said her brother's bills from the rental car were adding up. Police impounded his Ford F-150 and his 14-foot aluminum boat shortly after his wife, Laci, went missing on Christmas Eve in Modesto, California.

"I'm sure he didn't want to sell Laci's car," Caudillo said.

She said her brother needed a vehicle "to haul things around in." Peterson works on farms and sells fertilizer.

Caudillo did not know the exact day Scott Peterson sold the Land Rover but he was seen with the vehicle as recently as last week.

"Police are keeping his vehicle and not telling him when he can get it back. It could be a year or so," Caudillo said.

Police have said that Scott Peterson has not been eliminated from the investigation into the disappearance of his wife Laci, 27. Modesto police have said that a woman who said she was having a romantic relationship was cooperating and is not a suspect.

Peterson's wife is due to deliver a baby boy February 10. She was last reported seen by her husband the morning of December 24, when he left the house to go on a fishing trip about 85 miles away. She last talked to her mother on the evening of December 23.

Peterson said his wife was going to walk their dog in a nearby park and shop for items for dinner but she wasn't in the house when he returned in the late afternoon. A neighbor had found the dog, with its leash still on and put it in the backyard.

Police have said that Peterson presented them with a valid parking ticket for the Berkeley Marina, where he said he fished that day. A sonar search of the San Francisco Bay turned up no evidence.

A $500,000 reward has been posted for Laci Peterson's return.

Caudillo said the family plans to announce a "Nationwide Search Day for Laci" that they hope will take place this coming weekend.

Laci Peterson's family, which initially stood by Scott Peterson, has urged him to cooperate and be more forthcoming with police, especially after it was revealed that he was having an affair.





http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/West/02/0...man/index.html

chideltjen 02-05-2003 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by valkyrie

I'm still not sure what to think about the case. If he did kill her and dump her into the lake where he went fishing, I think that her body would have been found there and it hasn't been.

Not necessarily... bay area waters and lakes are not the nicest. Anything could have been dumped and be flushed out to sea in a few days. So if she was in that marina... her body could be long gone by now, hense no one being able to find it.
Back to my viewing of AMW... Xmas eve weather wasn't that spectacular and bystanders on the marina said anyone would have been NUTS to go fishing in that lil tiny boat in inclement weather. So either he didn't go fishing OR he really needed to do something else but fish.

xok85xo 04-14-2003 09:28 PM

possibly found?
 
police found two decomposing bodies (a woman and a full term male fetus) in richmond, ca..approximately 2 miles from where scott peterson was "fishing" the night his wife disappeared..however, identities have not been confirmed..

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/West/04/1...und/index.html

SATX*APhi 04-14-2003 09:39 PM

That is so sad. Whether it is her or not, I hope whoever was responsible for the deaths of those found is found and prosecuted.

xok85xo 04-14-2003 09:40 PM

sounds like too much of a coincidence to me...

ladyj39 04-14-2003 09:45 PM

It's on the local news right now. Autopsies will be performed as soon as possible and the adult female body that was found was reported to be decapitated and wearing maternity clothes. The Peterson's were supposed to have a baby boy named Connor, and the full term fetus that washed ashore was a male.

This does sound like too much of a coincidence to me. It's tragic, but at the very least, Laci's family will know and not have to wonder anymore... :(

SATX*APhi 04-14-2003 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ladyj39
It's on the local news right now. Autopsies will be performed as soon as possible and the adult female body that was found was reported to be decapitated and wearing maternity clothes.
Decapitated?!?! I have no words to express what I am feeling right now.

texas*princess 04-14-2003 10:16 PM

ohmygosh.

i can't even express what i'm thinking right now :(

Peaches-n-Cream 04-14-2003 10:48 PM

This is so terribly sad. :(

MSKKG 04-14-2003 11:35 PM

Did y'all notice that his mistress' birthday is the same as the baby's due date?

texas*princess 04-15-2003 12:04 AM

:eek:

swissmiss04 04-15-2003 12:10 AM

Oh God that is so sad. To decapitate a pregnant mother is unspeakably inhumane. While it's a horrible discovery, I hope that her family can at least begin closure. Maybe not knowing was better, but I hope they find peace. And if her husband is indeed responsible, I hope they punish him. Hard.

ladyj39 04-15-2003 12:28 AM

KTVU.com
Body Discovered; Modesto Police Airlifted To Richmond
POSTED: 3:15 p.m. PDT April 14, 2003
UPDATED: 7:06 p.m. PDT April 14, 2003



RICHMOND, Calif. -- Modesto investigators were airlifted to Richmond's Point Isabel Regional Park Monday after a badly decomposed female body was spotted in shallow water a little more than a mile from where the corpse of a male fetus was discovered on Sunday.

However, authorities would not speculate if the grisly discoveries had anything to do with missing Modesto schoolteacher Laci Peterson.

"What we have is a badly decomposed body that appears to have been in the water for some time," said chief Norman Lapera, of the East Bay Regional Park Police. "But it's (been in the water) longer than a few days. The body shows just some skeleton remains, there is some flesh on the body."

Lapera said it was impossible to immediately know the gender of the body, but added "I think you can infer by the fact that we called the Modesto Police Department that we have not eliminated that it may be a female."

Hours later, the coroner's office confirmed to KTVU Channel 2 that the body was that of a female. An autopsy was scheduled for Monday evening.

When asked directly whether the discovery had anything to do with Peterson, Lapera answered: "We don't know...It would be unreasonable for me to speculate, (but) that is the concern of everyone."

In a copyrighted story, the Contra Costa Times quoted a source as telling the paper that the head and legs of the body were missing and it was apparent that the corpse had been pregnant. The body was identified, according to the newspaper source, to be a petite female that apparently was clothed in maternity wear.

Once they were called, Modesto police immediately dispatched a team to the scene via a helicopter.

"Modesto investigators were very interested and appreciated the phone call," he said. "Rather than processing the crime right now, where we would call in the coroner, as a courtesy to the Modesto Police, we are waiting for them."

"There is no danger of any kind of evidence being damaged because the tide is out. We have some time and the coroner is waiting."

The body was sighted by a dog walker around 11:30 a.m. Monday.

Speculation that the discovery could be a major break in the Peterson case arose from the fact that Scott Peterson, Laci's husband, has told authorities he was fishing in the nearby Berkeley Marina on Christmas Eve day when his wife allegedly disappeared without a trace from their Modesto home. The waters off Berkeley and Richmond have been the sites of an intensive underwater search.

Laci Peterson also was eight months pregnant with a baby boy at the time of her disappearance. Authorities said the fetus discovered along the shoreline on Sunday was that of a late-term baby boy.

Copyright 2003

Kevin 04-15-2003 10:03 AM

It worries me how everyone is so ready to convict him because of the way he's presented himself on camera thus far! He's supposed to be crying and he sold her SUV..

This theory that someone must be a good performer and present themselves well on camera is pretty dangerous when it comes to high-profile cases. Good for Johnny Cochran and Hollywood types that get accused, bad for us 'little people'.

Being 'convicted in the media' has unfortunately become a too-common process. Media folks need to avoid discussions of guild or innocence of people who haven't been accused and just generally be a little more responsible. The justice system needs room to work.

On another note, I hope that if it IS her body, I hope her killer is caught.

AlphaSigOU 04-15-2003 11:28 AM

TV news just isn't news anymore... it's been sacrificed at the altar of entertainment and ratings. Speculation, innuendo, among other things seem to govern the interests of electronic media, which barely -- if they haven't already done so -- dropped off the slippery slope of the tabloid scandal sheets.


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