Strip Clubs vs Girlfriends
 

I remember it was a big deal for me when my ex BF used to go out on his South Pacific patrols. Everytime they docked in Guam they'd head over to the G-Spot...the only strip club in town. I had a major cow until I found out that the dancers there looked like cows. One of the Coastie wives went there and reported back to us that the guys just went there because of the cheap drinks. Most of the girls there weren't even worthy to be touched with a ten foot pole.

I didn't really have a problem with it after that. I think that most establishments have a 'no touching' policy, so I'm okay with that and I'd trust him if he went. As long as he's not paying $$$ for a lap dance, I'm okay with it. I've been to a few strip clubs myself so I kinda know what goes on...and I had a great time!

I've never had a problem with it....they may look, but who're they comin back to?

I've been to strip clubs a couple times...once with my ex and a bunch of his fraternity brothers, and once on MY birthday (with him and a couple friends). My bf at the time even bought me a boobie shot.
I've yet to go to a male club though...I'm not really interested in going to any sort of club nowadays...

Anyway, the point is it really is just entertainment for him, if you don't like it, ask him to rent a porn he can watch at home :p (or suggest that to your friends who were so appalled!)

Sure...as long as I can come. :p

I have never had a problem with it - hell I like to go and see the shows myself sometimes. And of course on the other end of things, my boyfirend has no quams about me going to Ladies' Night.

I have absolutely no problem with it... most strip clubs have a no touching policy and and if he wants to drop his money on naked chicks that's all good... cuz in the end he's coming home to me... my friends all think I'm ridiculous because it doesn't bother me... but I don't see why it should...

I agree, I have no problems with my bf going to a strip club because as the ladies on the board already mentioned he's coming home to me! If you have confidence and trust in your relationship things like that shouldn't bother you.

it's cool with me if my hypothetical boyfriend goes to a strip club. i have a lot of good friends who are male, and it seems like a lt of their bonding goes on there.

If he was ditching me to go to strip clubs, then I might get crabby. Or if he was just going by himself I might think he was weird or an alcoholic... but if he's going with a bunch of guys I don't worry. He's probably there to get them out of trouble anyway, lol.

I have a question for those who have said that they don't care because "he is coming home to me." Would you also say that you don't care if he has an affair, because after he's done, he's coming home to you?

I'm not saying that I have a problem with strip clubs; I'm just trying to understand this statement.

I don't have a problem with it-- I have a few friends that will argue how horrible it is that men would go to such a place. It is wrong in their opinion--so is Hooters, according to them. I could care less....it is just entertainment!!!

There is a huge difference between going to a strip club and having an affair. I think I would sum up the "he's coming home to me" statement with ----
I don't care where you get your appetite--as long as you eat at home!!!! :p

-wendi

I have never really cared if ol'boy goes to a strip club. Strippers are taught to appear availible, but never be availible. IF I didnt trust him, I would rather him go to a strip club than to a party. I know he can't get into any real trouble there because chances are slim that he could actually pick one up, where, if he goes to a party, there is always some f#$king slut who WOULD be availble. Besides, I can't get mad at him for doing anything I would/have done.

my ex used to go all the time. it was a fraternity bid night "tradition" to go take the new boys to Centerfolds. I could have cared less... until he told me that he once hung out with a stripper all night after the club had closed (before we were together...)

yeah... glad he is my ex. :rolleyes:

I wouldn't have a problem with it. I wouldn't jump up and down and be all happy about it, but I wouldn't get mad if he went to a strip club.

Same thing with watching porn. My friend Leslie's older brother got into a fight with his gf cuz he watches porn sometimes. Um, ok, to me thats a guy thing. I wouldn't get mad about that either.

Yeah..."no touching policy".

-Rudey
--Hahahahahahahahaha!

I'm still not sure where I stand on the issue. I don't think I would have a problem with it, but the fact is I've really never had to deal with it because I've never seriously dated a guy who is into strip clubs, or who even goes to them.

Let's check the scoreboard:


Strip clubs: 38
Girlfriends: 14

3:38 3rd Quarter





looks like the ladies have some catching up to do

I don't have a problem with my husband going to strip clubs...I know he's coming home to me. Hell, I've even gone with him and some of his friends on three different occasions. The funny thing is is that I get more attention when I go into a strip club than the guys do. The last time I went with a group one of the dancers talked me into going up on stage. I laughed my ass off and the guys just couldn't believe that I did it.

Damn, those girls make good money. If I had a bigger set of ta-ta's I might consider a career change, lol.

I don't see a problem with it as long as the guy obeys the "Zoo Rules"...Don't Pet The Strippers! ;)

LOL, too funny! :D

I have a ethical problem, as a woman, with strip clubs because I don't like to see my fellow members of the fairer sex degrading themselves. I would have an issue with dating someone who thinks that it's "harmless fun" ONLY because how would he feel if that was his sister, mother, me up there? It's wrong, and women are wrong for agreeing to work at places like this.

I also think male strippers are really not all that talented and I don't go to any sort of those types of "male revue" clubs...ICK!

I'm not a prude by any means, I just question how someone really feels about themselves when they seek approval based on their appearance.

I don't care if my husband goes to a strip club. Never have, never will. It's just a way to spend the evening with his buddies and I'm not insecure about it because I trust him, I know he loves me and I know I look just as good as the girls writhing around on the poles (and mine are even real! lol)

Ya know, I'm going to print out this thread and shove it in my girls' faces..of course they have guys they don't really trust so..that might have a take on their judgement... :p

Oh, ditto on yourself going..right now my bf and his bros are planning on going for a rush and well..as they said, "You're a Sweetheart..you wear our letters...you -have- to go.." lol! Even ther words..they want to see me put a dollar in some chicks g-string...

You silly boys.

Rose,

Good thinking.

I'll bet you look a whole lot better. The few times I've been in "gentlemen's clubs," the women there were average at best -- and that's being kind.

Question: If a woman makes the choice to work at a strip club, how is she being degraded?

A: she's not being degraded, she made a choice to work at a strip club. If she does encounter degrading acts by patrons of the club she reserves the right to quit.


About ethical issues, I noticed an ethical problem in the post by sigmagrrl regarding the quote "I don't like to see my fellow members of the fairer sex degrading themselves."

This could be considered an ethical issue simply becaue you refer to females as the "fairer sex."

Just a little something to ponder.

I agree completely. I'm sure that there are women who find it empowering to work at strip clubs. Just because one woman would find stripping degrading and therefore decides not to do it doesn't mean that all women working in strip clubs are degraded in one form or another. I'm just curious to hear why someone would think that it's automatically degrading to work at a strip club.

Quote by Sigmagrrl:

"I also think male strippers are really not all that talented and I don't go to any sort of those types of "male revue" clubs...ICK! "


Have you ever seen a male strip show? My BF used to be a stripper and he's great at it, he looks good, has the body for it and is talented! I love they way he dances.

There are some truely talanted male strippers out there too.

I know you're thinking I must be crazy to date him, but I realize that it's just a job and the only interest he had in the women that watched him was their dollars.

They are being degraded, simple as that. Treated as sex objects. And if you look a little further down, I ALSO said that these same women are making VERY poor choices.

Please, you act like you don't know what degraded means....It means being treated with less than the respect we each should demand and we each deserve.

C'mon, if these were "good" places, why aren't children allowed to see the show? Why aren't children and teenagers encouraged to see this as a quality line of work to go into instead of college? "Suzy, I know you've been thinking about which college to go to. I'd like you to browse this brochure. It shows how much money you could rake in, just by spreading your legs!" Just stop it! Why don't you see a stamp of approval from several religious denominations? "After church today, I'd like you all to please go down to the Foxy Lady and see parishoner Rebecca take her clothes off and look at her lovely breasts and vagina! THE ONE GOD MADE !"

Why you don't see them in certain, prestigious neighborhoods?You try to open a strip joint in Potomac, MD or Great Falls, VA (for those who may not know, these are areas with $1.0M homes and higher), and see how quickly you get denied that permit!

But, I do have to say this one thing: I can't fix this problem alone. People seem to think it's ok, so go if you want. I can't stop you. But, you cannot say that on some level, in some tiny amount, this "profession" doesn't bother you...What if your daughter did this? What if you walked into the club, fully erect, ready for a hot show and your sister came on out, naked as the day she was born? How ok with this would you be then? When these women are up on stage, they are nameless and you aren't exactly looking at their faces. Bring it into your own home, and see how happy you'd be....

She's someone's daughter, she's someone's sister/cousin/friend.

Give her some dignity...

well, call me crazy, but i'm pretty sure if you walked into a strip club with a raging hard boner sticking out they would throw you out. And the girls don't come out naked, they work their way down to it. :D

Kitso
KS 361 times i've been at strip clubs and bought $7.00 beers

Oh.

I missed the part where you redefined "fact" and "opinion" to mean the same thing.

what? I don't get how you can possibly draw a direct line between "dancing naked" and "no respect" . . . every time I've been to the Gentleman's Club (which isn't often enough, sadly), the strippers are well-respected, and make a killing. Look, b/c you say it doesn't make it happen, chief.

What? Nice straw-man.

Why aren't children allowed to drink, or allowed into R-rated movies? And before you jump back up onto the Christian Coalition soapbox, my friend, think of all the movies that are rated R that have redeeming cultural and artistic value . . . b/c children aren't allowed, are these invalidated?

This is just an ineffective strawmanning of the argument.



OK, I'll play by your rules . . .

In my suburb, no boats are allowed in the driveway (or RVs, campers, etc) unless they cost over a certain amount of money (100k for boats, 400k for RVs, I think) . . . does that make fishing a horrific act?

NO - you're confusing one group's opinion (or egocentric self-interest) for moral validation. Do you want to extend this further? We can . . . and it'll get ugly.

Your logic is appalling - take a freaking class. Look, you can't fix this because you can't piece together a cogent argument. "Fully erect"? Kick me in the face - ridiculous comment. If you can't argue this subject like a real person, quietly exit the thread and go back to converting heathens.

It doesn't bother me - NOT IN THE LEAST - it's just like any other profession, be it law, medicine, taking out the trash, or fighting other nations. YOUR MORALITY IS NOT THE ONLY MORALITY.

If I have a daughter, and she decides the most efficacious way for her to earn money is to strip at an up-scale gentleman's club, then isn't it less dignified for me to deny her the opportunity? Isn't it less dignified to force her to work two jobs to make ends meet rather than allowing her to make an adult decision? Isn't it undignified for me to bite your argumentation style, and appeal to emotion rather than making valid points?

really, don't argue with Rob, he wins everytime.

man, i hate smart people ;)

I support you on this!

-Rudey
--But I gotta warn you...upscale or not, I tip with pennies.

A logic class is so key, so key.
I agree with everything that Rob says and I wanted to say it but he got to if faster tham me (bastage).

The argument regarding children not being able to see it is no agrument at all. There are a lot of other things that children can't do before a certain aga and that is called law. They are restriced to do these until they reach the legal ege to do so.


Remember this for the next time you argue morals and ethics from a legal standpoint: Ethics and morals are hardly the standards or basis in which laws are created and Laws are not always created from an ethical and/or moral standpoint.

Children are also not allowed to view acts of sex before the age of 18 (yet many still do). So, just because children are not allowed to see this sort of act - is the act of sex unethcial?

Remember, for those who are against their BF/husband attending strip clubs, he doesn't have to be in a strip club to look at other women suggestively.

When I was 16, I worked at Wendy's ,for about three weeks. I wore an orange and brown polyester uniform, smelled like grease on the way home from work, had to clean toilets (after people who had terrible aim) and get yelled at by customers who held me personally responsible for the fact that it cost 10 cents extra to get a tomato slice on their burger. For that I was paid the princely sum of $3.35 an hour.

THAT is degrading! Only instead of being degraded by a club owner I was degraded by Dave Thomas

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