Hazing is wrong......That's why WE don't do it!!!!!
 

I have read so many issues on Hazing on these chat boards.......but I wanted to have all the groups who DONT haze to start taking credit. This board will be for people who want to stick out their chest and proclaim they dont haze.........and have recognition for their choice not to haze.
I want to see brothers and sisters proudly say they are proud to be in their GLO even if it meant they weren't forced to punch trees, drink until they saw purple stars, or were made to feel like thye were the lousiest people in the world.
So everyone who wasn't hazed, or don't plan on hazing shout i loud and shout it proud!!!!!!

The Gamma-Nu chapter is completely hazing-free. As a pledge, I can verify it.

The Delta Delta does not haze

I can proudly say that we do not haze at all. I joined... well assisted in the founding for that sole fact. Other groups (which shall remain nameless) DO haze on my campus and have given fraternities a bad name in the process. In fact 2 were recently put on probation by their respective HQ's.

It's what makes us different AND better. Our bonds of brotherhood in my opinion are the strongest on campus as well as our dedication to getting things done.

The Sigma Xi KDs are hazing-free & very proud!

The Indiana Gamma Chapter of Pi Beta Phi doesn't haze! :D

PPL,
Jess

Neither does the Virginia Theta Chapter ! :)

HB of ADPi does not haze our new members in any way!!! :D Love my sistas!

Theta Zeta doesn't haze, and I and my sisters intend to keep it that way.

we're HAZE FREE.. its the way to be ;)

Gamma Gamma of Phi Sigma Sigma

and

Delta Omicron of Tau Beta Sigma

are proud not to haze :)

KDR don't haze

BOOYA

LXA was the first Fraternity to implement a NO HAZING Law in a Greek Org. The First to Change from Pledges to New Associate Members.

Those that profess that hazing brings Brothers together, better stop and think about the Members who have been injuried and have died because of hazing.

If it sounds like fun to do, stop and think about it for a minute about what Might Could Happen! Then Just Dont Do It!

We all want each and every new Member to help our Chapters and Orgs. to grow!:)

Theta Beta chapter does not haze in any way!

Yes, but hazing works really well. Sorry to rain on your parade.

Alabama Gamma of Pi Beta Phi does not haze! I doubt that any of the Auburn sororities do!:)

Hazing creates fake brothers.

Take a selection:
Brothers who were forced to come together because of doing jumping jacks on glass at 3 in the morning during finals week,

or

Brothers who came together over the entire semester building a habitat for humanity house, starting from beginning to finish?


Pledging assures the house can stay strong. You do not see the true side of a person over a 1 week rush period. However, a 1 semester pledge period allows you to really get to know someone before coming a brother, and allows you to see if he will be dedicated to the house by showing up other than formal dinner/meeting and if he will pay his simple dues on time. Plus, initiation will mean that much more to you if you've been working for it.

Rock on docetboy!

I'm sorry but having experienced hazing to become a memebr of one organziation (military) and then not being hazed to become a member of another (LCA) I think like to think that hazing creates a perception of belonging based on fear and intimidation, nothing that I would ever wish on my biological brothers, which means I would never wish it on PNM in my org.

While I believe there are improvements to be made in our chapter's PNM program, I would personally lose it on any jackass that thought hazing builds a stronger bond of brotherhood. Why would I want a brother coerced into be a "good" brother over one who made a rational choice to want to be one?

I have absolutley no respect for any greek org. that thinks hazing creates a stronger or more legitimate bond!

A strong shared experience can create a stronger bond. You represent two extremes very well here.

However, most groups that haze don't go as far as what you are saying, and most groups that don't haze certainly don't have the level of involvement that involved in your example.

I'm proud to say the Iota Gamma Chapter of Phi Sigma Sigma does not haze.

I'm also proud to say that Phi Sigma Sigma, as with all NPC members I believe, has a no hazing policy.

My org's hazing free too...and for those that think hazing is good, there are other way to weed out the pledges! They will know whether or not the greek organization is for them or not

How?

Beta Tau chapter does not haze. :D :D :D

Hazing is wrong......That's why WE don't do it!!!!!

Always good to hear that from a fellow Lambda Chi.

Welcome to the forums!

I don't haze, but I support some who do
 

This hazing thing is a big debate lately. I Have to Agree with Docetboy that a group project like that definately helps house unity in ways hazing NEVER could. However I also have to agree with James that neither example is a real-world scenario.


By the way: IB chapter of K/\P DOES NOT HAZE! We're a young chapter and don't wanna get busted for anything. And to answer your question James, pledging can weed out the bad pledges because if they don't complete all their interviews, philanthropies, community services, and house improvements they don't cross. We have a "Phantom Pledge" in this current pledge class, and we're thinking of dropping him because he doesn't participate. Also if their grades aren't high enough, they don't cross. THAT IS HOW NORMAL PLEDGING CAN WEED OUT BAD PLEDGES. However, this works at our college because we have a 4% greek population, so if you wana join, you ARE determined to join. At schools with a bigger greek population people may join for all the wrong reasons, where hazing definately helps weed them out.

Zeta Omega chapter of Alpha Delta Pi doesn't haze! And neither does our Alpha Chi chapter of Alpha Delta Pi at UCLA! ADPi was the first sorority to institute a zero-tolerance policy for hazing.

How can some of you people say hazing is good or it helps build a bond. What it does is it builds a subordinate relationship which is something i hope no one would want. Plus it gives you "brothers" a chance to feel better about yuorselves by forcing them to punch trees or walk on glass or any of that kind of stuff. Feel better about yourselves by embracing brotherhood and your new members and teaching them what your organization means!!!!!

PD Z 306 Brother, Right On!:)

james,
i'm not really a proponent or detractor of the pronciple of hazing itself. you are, however, a bit presumptuous in saying that non-hazing groups have a lower level of involvement. the commitment to my chapter by the undergrads has increased 10-fold since the cecession of hazing, in the mid 90's. since i've graduated, i've visited a lot of chapters that have recently evolved from pretty stern hazing to a time-intensive candidate period, and the men have benefited more than i could have ever imagined from stressing fraternal work, instead of hazing focused on creating psychological and physical stress.

Its hard to Haze in Kappa Alpha Theta. You have a 1800 number you can call if you feel like you are being hazed. Its funny when I was a new member we made paddles (which by the way are no longer allowed because hum HAZING). We asked if we could show them in chapter and we were told no because if even one of us didn't want to do it, it would be considered HAZING. I think the policy is great and all but sometimes I think its taking a little to far such in our case.

I'm proud to say that Zeta Omega chapter of Kappa Kappa Gamma does not haze!!

True, but their is a difference between pledging and hazing. We don't haze but we still pledge.

What if they aren't right for the org. Should black balling someone be hazing? I don't think so.

OH...MY...GOD!!! So you mean when I asked one of my pledges who was sitting next to me in class if I could borrow a pencil because I had forgotten mine, I caused him unnecessary physical distress and totally hazed him? Excuse me for a moment while I freak out and go crazy for having screwed up... :rolleyes: uhh yeah... no... wake up and smell the coffee people... hazing is just about the most incredibly perception-based thing around, and some things are construed as hazing, even though they're things we all do... oh, and beating your fists on your chests going "we don't haze" is uhm, how should i put this... not the greatest thing ever either... nobody is without fault, nobody's perfect, but if you make your pledges do jumping jacks at 3am on glass, well, sorry for the bluntness, but you deserve to have that glass shoved somewhere... yeah, hazing doesn't create good brotherhood, but there are different things that happen that are construed as hazing... such as making your pledge drink a bottle of alcohol, or making him (or her) repeat the alphabet... do you guys see any differences between those 2? Well, I do... when I mean repeating the alphabet, I don't mean embarassing him/her in public, but maybe when it's just you and him, or at education... both of those things are "hazing", but to make an analogy, it's like saying pot is as bad as cocaine... while nobody dies from using cannibus, people OD on coke more than anybody here would like to acknowledge... yet the DEA says pot's just as bad as coke... i think there should be a line drawn between what's real hazing, and what's "fake" hazing...

Fraternally yours, Dragos

Yippy...and Epsilon Xi Chapter of Alpha Delta Pi at Northern Arizona University also does not haze.

the Beta Kappa chapter of Alpha Sigma Alpha does not haze!!! :D

YOU DON'T HAZE
 

Having New Associates have to come to the House?

Having members study in periods of time so they can make grades?

Having Members attend meetings?

Having New Associates know anything about the History of the Local Chapter and the International?

Having Members participate in activities?

What is hazing?

Beating someones ass, make them do degrading things, that may harm themselves

In this day of Politically Correctness, there is little leeway for new members to learn what makes a Brother/Sisterhood!

There is a very fine line in todays overall picture.

I think we are losing the total picture of what life is all about!

In many more ways than we think.


:eek:

I am controversial too...
 

On my campus of all locals, we have (or certain orgs) have had serious reps for hazing and we have always prided ourselves for not breaking our girls down and building them into alpha xi omicron, or for forcing alcohol, or making them exert themselves physically, or sexually in the name of greek life. And yet, we are all guilty of hazing. these certain infamous orgs have gottten caught once again (pledges de-pledging and telling administration) and so now, we can have nothing visible during pledges. Our girls are hardly allowed to wear pins, and are definitely not allowed to carry pedge books (a total norm on our campus).
But I must say many orgs have taken a positive look at all the change going on, and at least the sororitites are agreeing that serious hazing is totally wrong. By the same token, are we really supposed to have weekly meetings and eat cookies for pledging?
There needs to be a definition of hazing that allows commitment , education, devotion, and bonding, without all of the nit-picky rules.
what blows me is that the one org that EVERYONE knows is hazing, (and I mean the glass, jumping off trains, nightly drunken drop offs after beatings in the middle of nowhere) has been doing it since 1909, and though their group is the smallest, since the board of trustees are alum, the fraternity never gets in trouble. The system of reprimand is pretty screwy I think when it comes to hazing... some get away with it and some don't- -

Hazing is such a hard thing to define. KAO used to require its members to take a test, you know like the history of the chatper, ect... but hum that hazing. Just like everything else. I do understand the big things that hurt people but some of the small things that we as a chapter can get in trouble for is stupid. Other then ritual we can't exclude our new members from anything and they can't do anything by themselves like have a meeting because that would be hazing. I think the definition needs to be made clear to some Headquarters so they can decide what is really hazing.