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UDZETA 11-25-2002 07:33 PM

UF_Pike is not a liar!!!
 
UF_Pike is cleared!! He is an alumni of PKA. It was confirmed to me by another alumni. If you want more details PM me. I will let you know more about how I solved this issue. To the two who started the other post I want to know how you went about to get your information. UF_Pike was not lying. I think some of you own him an apology.

chopper816 11-25-2002 07:42 PM

why dont you just post how you solved it rather than people pm'ing you about it? if you went through so much trouble, you might as well tell everyone once rather than many people over and over

Shine 11-25-2002 08:14 PM

*bangs head into wall*

WHEN GOD WHEN?!?!!?

AchtungBaby80 11-25-2002 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chopper816
why dont you just post how you solved it rather than people pm'ing you about it? if you went through so much trouble, you might as well tell everyone once rather than many people over and over
For real. And as far as his lying, he may not have lied about being a Pike, but do you honestly think that all that shee-ite he's posted about his "wild escapades" is all true? Please.

IowaHawkeye 11-25-2002 08:26 PM

The Chit Chat Mods are going to allow this thread to say open - it's only fair that UF_Pike be given the shot to clear his name.

But DO NOT test us with out of line posts, defamatory comments, and disrespect towards fellow posters. BEHAVE :mad:

We WILL NOT HESITATE in deleting your post and/or locking this thread.

cash78mere 11-25-2002 08:37 PM

get a life!!
 
this reminds me of all these people who, on september 11th were shocked and outraged about what happened, but once it was out of sight, and the site was cleared up and a year went by, all of a sudden they are making excuses for the taliban. did they forget what happened and how awful it was??? these people who defend 'the american taliban' because he 'had a traumatic childhood' or 'was expressing his free speech' are sickening.

also, it's like those people who defend rapists because "she was dressed too sexy" or "she liked it". ugh--give me a break:mad:

(not that i am directly comparing ufpike and these incidents. rather i am talking about the perspective of people defending this loser. obviously 9/11 and a rapist are much different than ufpike so don't even go there)

i don't give a crap whether ufpike is a pike or went to uf, he is degrading and rude, to say the least. how do you suddenly forget all that was said and go to 'defend' him and be proud of yourself?

out of sight, out of mind.

Unregistered- 11-25-2002 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IowaHawkeye
The Chit Chat Mods are going to allow this thread to say open - it's only fair that UF_Pike be given the shot to clear his name.

But DO NOT test us with out of line posts, defamatory comments, and disrespect towards fellow posters. BEHAVE :mad:

We WILL NOT HESITATE in deleting your post and/or locking this thread.

I too am curious as to what he has to say. Here's his chance to clear his name...I just hope that he doesn't abuse it by resorting to name calling and saying the insulting things he's used to. That's how he got here in the first place.

DeltAlum 11-25-2002 08:48 PM

UDZeta,

It might be nice to let everyone know how you reached your conclusion, since now we apparantely have an alumni you talked to saying he is a member, and the sitting president of the chapter saying he isn't.

It's the classic his word against his.

If anyone still cares either way.

Thank you.

Kevin 11-25-2002 09:04 PM

Usually the new chapter would have very little to do with the members of a chapter that was suspended. It's done that way by design.

alphaiota 11-25-2002 09:21 PM

whether it's true or not, i don't really care. i'm somewhat happy to see that he's been stopped. after the things he said about me/to me on a particular thread, basically bashing me personally for my weight simply b/c i reported his extremely threatening post, well can't say i miss him.

shelley j
sigma k

damasa 11-25-2002 09:52 PM

Re: UF_Pike is not a liar!!!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by UDZETA
UF_Pike is cleared!! He is an alumni of PKA. It was confirmed to me by another alumni. If you want more details PM me. I will let you know more about how I solved this issue. To the two who started the other post I want to know how you went about to get your information. UF_Pike was not lying. I think some of you own him an apology.
For the sake of discussion, since you are asking the "other two" how the went about their information, how about you share how you got yours as well?

You know, to gain "equality" and whatnot.

LeslieAGD 11-25-2002 10:36 PM

Did this really need a thread of it's own?!?
Couldn't you have posted this in one of the MANY existing threads about UF_Pike?
I'm so sick of reading about him. :rolleyes:

Shine 11-25-2002 10:49 PM

He may not be a proven liar, but he is a proven jerk.

POINT BLANK

I could care less if he is/was a Pike, and I could care less if he goes/went to UF.

I do care that he has made threatening sexual comments to women on this site. I care that he posts threads insulting women of size. I do care that he insults and stereotypes an entire sorority of women at UF calling them sluts and other derrogatory names. I care that he talks about doing drugs and sexual debauchery, and that does nothing but further the many bad stereotypes of greeks and greek life.

Those are the things that are important. Who REALLY cares if he's an ABC at BSU or a GDI at UBS. What's important is his ACTIONS.

UDZETA 11-25-2002 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LeslieAGD
Did this really need a thread of it's own?!?
Couldn't you have posted this in one of the MANY existing threads about UF_Pike?
I'm so sick of reading about him. :rolleyes:

If you don't like the thread then don't read it. I don't understand why people post things like this? Don't take this the wrong way either. If you don't like, stay away from it.

UDZETA 11-25-2002 10:56 PM

First off I went to the PKA website to get the names of the alumni in Florida. I e-mailed all of them and told them of the situation that was going on greek chat. I had a few replies. The only problem is I wanted to make sure I had the correct name. Because a lot of people do not use their real name on the internet. This is when I had to e-mail UF_Pike. (Now I must admit I began to doubt UF_Pike. I really thought I had been fooled by him and I wanted to find out if he really is who he said he was. I don't like to be lied to but I am also not going to believe anything I hear.) I had spoke to him many times before this ever happened and I asked him what his name really was. He was not using his real last name but he wanted to help me prove he was not a liar so he gave my his real name. Which was confirmed by the School he was at and an alumni of PKA. The alumni e-mailed me back and confirmed that UF_Pike is really who he says he is. I saved all the e-mails as proof. I can forward the e-mails to you if you would like. According to this alumni he has not be in trouble for any harassment. If you want more information PM me.

Tom Earp 11-25-2002 11:01 PM

UDZETA, thank you for the investigative report! I know it took a lot of hard work!

I think what everyone means is now we know he is a PIKE.

But never the less, what he has been saying on GC is totally uncalled for!

If I was PKA Brother of his , I would be embarresed as hell and very resentful as this does show what kind of men the PIKES are!

crystalline 11-25-2002 11:02 PM

Awesome work UDZETA! I PMed you btw..

Shine 11-25-2002 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by UDZETA
First off I went to the PKA website to get the names of the alumni in Florida. I e-mailed all of them and told them of the situation that was going on greek chat. I had a few replies. The only problem is I wanted to make sure I had the correct name. Because a lot of people do not use their real name on the internet. This is when I had to e-mail UF_Pike. (Now I must admit I began to doubt UF_Pike. I really thought I had been fooled by him and I wanted to find out if he really is who he said he was. I don't like to be lied to but I am also not going to believe anything I hear.) I had spoke to him many times before this ever happened and I asked him what his name really was. He was not using his real last name but he wanted to help me prove he was not a liar so he gave my his real name. Which was confirmed by the School he was at and an alumni of PKA. The alumni e-mailed me back and confirmed that UF_Pike is really who he says he is. I saved all the e-mails as proof. I can forward the e-mails to you if you would like. According to this alumni he has not be in trouble for any harassment. If you want more information PM me.
How do you know that UF Pike didn't do the same thing you did and pick some random name off the PKA Alumni list and tell you that was his name?

IowaHawkeye 11-25-2002 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shine


How do you know that UF Pike didn't do the same thing you did and pick some random name off the PKA Alumni list and tell you that was his name?


:cool: just to play devils advocate - thats exactly what i was thinking....

alphaiota 11-25-2002 11:08 PM

so he really is a Pike, well too bad for them. i'm just really surprised that this has become such an issue. it's sad that he has represented PKA in such an awful light, not to mention himself.
if you want to say he's really a great guy and he's just got a weird sense of humor, well that's nice. but the way he has represented himself in gc, which by the way is how we start to get to know people on the internet anyways, then how are we suppose to know he's a "good guy". all he's done is act a fool on this site and offended nearly everyone. so i'm sorry i can't say that first impressions have been all that great. as far as i'm concerned good ridens.

shelley j
sigma k

crystalline 11-25-2002 11:09 PM

I noticed on this site for just about all posts, it says "IP logged". Therefore it is possible for the moderators to trace him, at least to his ISP. They would have a record of who had been assigned that IP, and deal with him accordingly.

UDZETA 11-25-2002 11:15 PM

E-mails from alumni
 
Luis Moreno,
Hello my name is Kylea Corbin and I am a sister of ZTA. I am apart of a greek chat group on line called www.greekchat.com. There is a question about one of the members of this chat group. There are people claiming he is not apart of PKA. He says he is an alumni. If he is a fake he will be banned from the chat group. The person in question is Craig XXXXXX he went to UF but he also switched school but the school was still in Florida. Could you please confirm or not confirm if he was a member of PKA. You can reach me at XXXXXXXXXXX@hotmail.com..
Thank you,
Kylea XXXXXXX


First e-mail
I am curious as to how you have my email address?

Frankly, I am not sure who this guy is? If the issue is indeed serious, I can
confirm his "true" Pike identity, if it even exists? However, I would like to
know where and how my email address came up?

Please advise.

Thanks.

L. Moreno
PiKA Chapter President 1999-2000 (FIU)
I told him I got his e-mail from the PKA web-site and explained the situation about UF_Pike


Second e-mail
Can you talk to me a little bit about this website and the issue at hand? Also,
about the seriousness behind his false identity.

Please respond via email or phone call.
904.XXX.XXXX
Thanks,

LM
L.Moreno
I know I told you before that his last name was XXXXXX it is not. His real last name is XXXXXX. This information was just givin to me. Craig e-mailed me telling me he does not like to use his real last name on the internet and that is why he used a different last name. Will you be able to confirm his membership for me? I did e-mail others but they have not responded yet. You are one of the only ones that has responded to my e-mails. Your help in this matter is greatly appreciated. I'm hoping you will be able to help me in this search.
Thank you for your time and effort.
Kylea XXXXXXX


Third e-mail
Yes, I will confirm that.

Thanks,

LM

Rudey 11-25-2002 11:15 PM

investigation
 
OK, I decided to have my own investigation. I think you can tell a lot about a person by their nipple size. Well I don't think any of you girls are who you're claiming to be. This applies especially to the good looking ones - like Michelle of Michelle's Wonderland.

Girls, please take pictures of your breasts and put them on this thread. I want to see a bit of your face, but importantly a whole lot of your breasts. This will help in my investigative verification process.

-Rudey
--I feel like Matlock...except I listen to Pharoah Monch and I'm about to beer up until I'm FUBAR

crystalline 11-25-2002 11:20 PM

LOL why does face matter?

Shine 11-25-2002 11:21 PM

Re: E-mails from alumni
 
Quote:

Originally posted by UDZETA
Luis Moreno,
Hello my name is Kylea Corbin and I am a sister of ZTA. I am apart of a greek chat group on line called www.greekchat.com. There is a question about one of the members of this chat group. There are people claiming he is not apart of PKA. He says he is an alumni. If he is a fake he will be banned from the chat group. The person in question is Craig XXXXXX he went to UF but he also switched school but the school was still in Florida. Could you please confirm or not confirm if he was a member of PKA. You can reach me at XXXXXXXXXXX@hotmail.com..
Thank you,
Kylea XXXXXXX


First e-mail
I am curious as to how you have my email address?

Frankly, I am not sure who this guy is? If the issue is indeed serious, I can
confirm his "true" Pike identity, if it even exists? However, I would like to
know where and how my email address came up?

Please advise.

Thanks.

L. Moreno
PiKA Chapter President 1999-2000 (FIU)
I told him I got his e-mail from the PKA web-site and explained the situation about UF_Pike


Second e-mail
Can you talk to me a little bit about this website and the issue at hand? Also,
about the seriousness behind his false identity.

Please respond via email or phone call.
904.XXX.XXXX
Thanks,

LM
L.Moreno
I know I told you before that his last name was XXXXXX it is not. His real last name is XXXXXX. This information was just givin to me. Craig e-mailed me telling me he does not like to use his real last name on the internet and that is why he used a different last name. Will you be able to confirm his membership for me? I did e-mail others but they have not responded yet. You are one of the only ones that has responded to my e-mails. Your help in this matter is greatly appreciated. I'm hoping you will be able to help me in this search.
Thank you for your time and effort.
Kylea XXXXXXX


Third e-mail
Yes, I will confirm that.

Thanks,

LM

This STILL doesn't prove that UF_Pike didn't do the same thing you did, and go to a website to look up the name of a PKA alumni to tell you. Of course the name is a real pike. That doesn't mean that UF_Pike is that man.

Like I said above, my issue with him is not whether or not he is a Pike, but what he has said.

But at least if you're going to do a credible "investigation" you should not get your "proof" and information from the person you are investigating.

UDZETA 11-25-2002 11:24 PM

Shine,
The only list of alumni on the PKA web site were the point of contacts for each area. You can't look up all the names of the alumni.

UDZETA 11-25-2002 11:26 PM

Re: investigation
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
OK, I decided to have my own investigation. I think you can tell a lot about a person by their nipple size. Well I don't think any of you girls are who you're claiming to be. This applies especially to the good looking ones - like Michelle of Michelle's Wonderland.

Girls, please take pictures of your breasts and put them on this thread. I want to see a bit of your face, but importantly a whole lot of your breasts. This will help in my investigative verification process.

-Rudey
--I feel like Matlock...except I listen to Pharoah Monch and I'm about to beer up until I'm FUBAR

That is uncalled for, funny, but uncalled for.

Shine 11-25-2002 11:26 PM

I'm just saying, the fact that he has given 2 different last names is suspect. How do we know what he has said is truth when he keeps changing his story?

Maybe he did know a Craig XXX at UF that was a Pike and he took that name to give to you.

Does it really matter?

Why are you sticking your neck out for this guy who says one thing one day, and another thing the next?

His story keeps changing, darling, and that doesn't give him very much credibility.

alphaiota 11-25-2002 11:27 PM

face doesn't really matter much. he's just trying to sound nice.........and professional:p
don't think my boobs would actually fit on camera.
i totally dare someone to post a pic like that.

shelley j
sigma k

Hootie 11-26-2002 12:15 AM

UDZeta,
I am glad you are sticking up for something you believe in. It shows strength and courage. HOWEVER, I do not agree with what you wrote: that if a person doesn't like what he posts then don't read it.
Far too many times civilized threads were discussed and he stormed in making rude and uncalled for remarks. One can't HELP but read and want to defend themselves. Furthermore, I may have never been pointed out or insulted by, but I do recall plenty of women who HAVE been and then some of his faithful followers (you also) just laughed it off.
He has hurt one too many people. And THAT is what I'm concerned with. When women are emailing moderators showing PM's that he's written and the obvious threads, it's a little overbearing for us to sit back and give him the benefit of the doubt.
I recall in that thread that was started in Chit Chat about girls who like UF Pike (can't remember the exact name), he took a PERSONAL slam to Stevie. I was the ONLY ONE who backed her up. I don't even talk to her, but I felt compelled to stop that sort of name calling. And so after a few posts, and then some PM's, Craig and I saw eye to eye. But still, there have been many other times his posts have offended people.

I'm just trying to make a clear point as to why people are up in arms about him. I don't care if he's a Pike, Tke, Kappa Sig or a GDI. His behaviors have gone on further than the V's!!!!!

This needs to stop!

KSig RC 11-26-2002 01:01 AM

Re: investigation
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
-Rudey
--I feel like Matlock...except I listen to Pharoah Monch and I'm about to beer up until I'm FUBAR

d00d, matlock was into pharoah monch in like 94, way before he got popular and dropped wax with that sellout nate dogg (see: "Oh No" w/ Mos Def).
You R p0zerz r0x0rz and all that crap

chopper816 11-26-2002 01:16 AM

Ok, so even if he is a pike, like everyone else, what are you trying to prove? that b/c he was telling the truth that hes a pike that he must be the worlds greatest gentleman and everyone that he offended should forgive him. I can admire you standing up for something you believe in, but with all due respect, youre fighting a losing battle.

damasa 11-26-2002 02:57 AM

Re: E-mails from alumni
 
Quote:

Originally posted by UDZETA



Yes, I will confirm that.

Thanks,

LM

LOL, what does this confirm? It seems as though he's telling you he'll look into it!!!

You have been fooled!

xok85xo 11-26-2002 08:51 AM

actually, didn't he say in a thread a long time ago (i believe it was one that he deleted) that there were like, 3 craigs in his pledge class?(blaine - i think it was when you told him that your cousin was a pike from uf?) he easily could have told you one of their last names udzta..

sounds pretty fishy to me "hi, we've become pretty good friends via the internet.. my last name is XXX ha ha just kidding its XXXXX"

right.

Kevlar281 11-26-2002 09:25 AM

Sow the Wind, and Reap the Whirlwind.

UDZETA 11-26-2002 09:35 AM

I have said many times that I said do not agree with UF_Pike views or actions. I do not support that kind of behavior. I just wanted to give him a chance to clear his name if that was even possible. I realize that not everyone is going to believe me or have doubts but just remember you can doubt anyone. The reason I made the comment about not posting on this thread is so many people post things like"get a life"or "this is boring" well if they don't enjoy it is one thing but do they have to post such comments. And I am not telling people, not to post their comments but just try to keep them on topic. I really don't want people taking this the wrong way.

axotiger 11-26-2002 10:01 AM

oh geez, drama drama drama

AOX81 11-26-2002 10:02 AM

Who cares? This topic is just getting old!

If he wants to come and defend himself let him. If you don't like him then click the ignore button.

Notice he hasn't been around much lately...

aprilxo 11-26-2002 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AOX81
Notice he hasn't been around much lately...
Yep and I sure don't blame him. I'd be done with GC too *shrug*

Kevin 11-26-2002 11:23 AM

Okay... well in light of him being a member of PKA... The only people that should *REALLY* be offended are PKA's... At least the ones I know wouldn't have found him to be exactly a good representative of what they stand for...

Also women that he's directly insulted... you have the right to be offended.

Anyone else can be offended just because he's er... offensive..

But othe than being offensive, what has he really done? Direct threats? I just don't see the argument. I really don't know why these threads keep going. We keep asking for him to come on here and exonerate himself... what from?


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