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Contact 10-29-2002 06:33 AM

160Ibs for a lady too fat?
 
I read about all these slim gals...i'm not fat but i know i could do with losing a few pounds...is 160Ibs too fat for you guys (I'm 5'4) ?

Kevin 10-29-2002 09:39 AM

Some girls carry it differently than others...

A weight/height ratio is too little to go on.

And how fat is too fat? Well it depends on for what purpose:D

As long as you're healthy though you're not too fat.

AOX81 10-29-2002 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
Some girls carry it differently than others...
This is very true. I'm 5'4" and I weight ~135-140 pounds but I look like I barely weigh over 100.

kdonline 10-29-2002 11:49 AM

As a former high school teacher who has dealt with countless girls who fret about their weight (been there, done that myself..)

First of all, no one can say another is "too fat" -- because there's always someone else who thinks you're "just right." Plus, as ktsnake said, people carry their weight differently than others.

But, this shouldn't be an excuse to be overweight. Your goal should be to look "healthy."

If you find yourself eating pizza 2 times or more a week, french fries & other fast foods, cookies, etc... well, that's certainly NOT a healthy way to live. Forget those late night eating binges, too.

Many girls judge their weight by which stores they can shop in, ie, if they can't find anything that fits them in the Gap/ Abercrombie/Old Navy etc, then they try to lose weight. However, this is not always a good predictor.

Exercise, plus a healthy diet - these are the keys to getting (and staying) in shape. Don't make any excuses.

doubleblue&gold 10-29-2002 12:04 PM

Healthy is good. However in our soceity it is sill how you look. If you "look good" the number of pounds don't make as big a difference. Unfortunately if you are overweight there is still a stigma whether you are healthy or not. (Come on, be honest!) Unfortunately it seems that prejudice to fat people is still an accepted one.

MoxieGrrl 10-29-2002 12:18 PM

And always keep in mind....muscle ways more than fat! Some girls are just more solidly built than others.

FuzzieAlum 10-29-2002 12:32 PM

While I agree in main with what everyone has said here, I do want to disagree with one thing - there IS such a thing as too fat. If you literally can't get out of your house or your bed - or your weight is presenting MAJOR health issues - it shouldn't matter whether anyone appreciates that look; you should seek medical attention to help you with weight loss.

That said, I'm talking around 500 pounds here, not 160!

Imthechamp 10-29-2002 12:33 PM

Why was my post deleted? She asked a question and I gave her an answer.

Once again, yes, you're fat.

kddani 10-29-2002 12:57 PM

Contact- why are you concerned over how it's perceived? How do YOU feel about it? Do you feel healthy? What's your BMI, etc.? If you're athletic, 160 on a 5'4 frame wouldn't be much at all.

Just putting a height and a weight together mean nothing... it's all in the context of everything else.

librasoul22 10-29-2002 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Imthechamp
Once again, yes, you're fat.
And you are...? I swear...people that are new to GC, boy...I tell ya.

I personally don't think 160 is fat for 5'4, because I have seen very athletic girls weigh around the same thing and NOT be fat at all.

I am 5'8 and weigh 134. I don't work out much anymore but a few years back I used to be obsessed with it (I was involved in 2 sports heavily). I am one of those that believes that if one wants weight off, all they need is hard work.

That being said, why on earth do you car what people think of you? None of our opinions matter anyway. Don't let others determine your own self-worth.

Imthechamp 10-29-2002 02:10 PM

She asked a question which was, "AM I FAT?" and I said YES.

librasoul22 10-29-2002 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Imthechamp
I bet you I'm not.

She asked a question which was, "AM I FAT?" and I said YES.

Describe yourself.

USFSDTAlum 10-29-2002 03:07 PM

Granted Imthechamp is rude about how they are responding but i almost have to agree, a weight of 160 at a height of 5'4" is considered on a BMI scale of 27.5. Well into the Overweight catagory. Also the average weight in our country in 5'4" 144 pounds which is a size 12.


From CDC.gov or Center for Disease Control.
BMI compares well to body fat but cannot be interpreted as a certain percentage of body fat. The relation between fatness and BMI is influenced by age and gender. For example, women are more likely to have a higher percent of body fat than men for the same BMI. At the same BMI, older people have more body fat than younger adults.2

BMI is used to screen and monitor a population to detect risk of health or nutritional disorders. In an individual, other data must be used to determine if a high BMI is associated with increased risk of disease and death for that person. BMI alone is not diagnostic. 3


How does BMI relate to health among adults?
A healthy BMI for adults is between 18.5 and 24.9. BMI ranges are based on the effect body weight has on disease and death. 4

A high BMI is predictive of death from cardiovascular disease. Diabetes, cancer, high blood pressure and osteoarthritis are also common consequences of overweight and obesity in adults. Obesity itself is a strong risk factor for premature death. 5


BMI Cutpoints for Adults
We interpret BMI values for adults with one fixed number, regardless of age or sex, using the following guidelines:

Underweight BMI less than 18.5
Overweight BMI of 25.0 to 29.9
Obese BMI of 30.0 or more

kddani 10-29-2002 03:38 PM

So where's your picture? You'd better be cute as hell to be talking like this to everyone. Or maybe you yourself are "fat" and bitter because no sorority girls will talk to you so you come on here and try to cause trouble. Or maybe you have some sexual fetish for larger ladies and are in denial.... What's your deal?

And not that your post really deserves an answer, but no, i'm not fat, sorry to disappoint you. And i'm not hiding anything like you are by not posting a pic- my pic has been seen by many on here, as well as several people have actually met me in person.

Are you in a GLO? Doesn't seem so from any of your posts. So why are you here?

UF_PikePC98 10-29-2002 03:42 PM

Damn Danielle....

That was good....

That little lawyer chick coming out..... I think thats kinda sexy....

tear his a$$ up...

Dionysus 10-29-2002 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kddani

Are you in a GLO? Doesn't seem so from any of your posts. So why are you here?

Egad! If you are, don't answer! If so, expect someone to contact your nationals or chapter.

kddani 10-29-2002 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by UF_PikePC98
Damn Danielle....

That was good....

That little lawyer chick coming out..... I think thats kinda sexy....

tear his a$$ up...

Haha, thanks :)

UF_PikePC98 10-29-2002 03:55 PM

You know, it's kinda funny though....


This guys reminds me of myself when I first joined greek chat.

(Not abiding by any rules, not caring about others feelings, saying whatever I want.)

After several run-ins with John...I've become a bit more controlled.

Some people would call that censored.



Still though, I think the guy is funny.....

And, this might be piss some of you off, 160 pounds for a chick that is 5'4 is fat......most girls 5'9 don't even weigh 160 pounds.

Think about it....

All he did was give his opinion.....I'm not defending him since I haven't seen all his other posts....but he is right....

kddani 10-29-2002 03:59 PM

And aren't we all proud of how you've grown and matured, lol :p

If John wants to censor, he has every right to. Being on this board is a priviledge to all of us, not a right. He chooses to own and operate this. His court, his rules :)

Thankfully he seems to have a good heart and a forgiving nature towards some people.

amycat412 10-29-2002 04:07 PM

I've got to say it--

Why are you looking to strangers who can't even see you to validate or invalidate your weight?

If you are uncomfortable with yourself, do something about it. Work out, diet, meditate, etc.

If you are not uncomfortable, stop worrying about it and live your life.

If you are happy with who you are, no one else's opinion of you should matter. We all come in many different shapes and sizes, and thank God for that, it makes life interesting.

Imthechamp 10-29-2002 04:09 PM

Listen, she made a post asking if people thought she was fat. I said yes, because in my world, that's a big ass girl.

Then you make a post calling me an insecure jerk...

Uh yeah, I guess anyone who is honest is a jerk huh? What did you want me to do? Spare her feelings? Lie to her like the rest of yall spouting that bullshit about health and height/weight ratios? Who is the jerk? The person lying, or the guy who is honest?

She asked, "Am I fat?", she didn't ask, "Am I healthy?". No one really gives a shit about who's heartbeat is faster and who has a lower cholestrol.

kddani 10-29-2002 04:25 PM

Once again- where's your picture, mr. stud?

ZetaAce 10-29-2002 04:35 PM

Carry On.....
 
Howdy,

I've deleted and/or edited out all flames. If your thread has been edited or deleted it's because it was a flame or referred to a flame.

BTW: Contact chose the word 'fat', not Imchamp, so please don't be astonished that he used her word. Some might find it distasteful (including me), but hey, that's what she asked.

If you haveQuestions or Comments please PM me.

ZA

Hootie 10-29-2002 06:33 PM

I think it's mostly how well you carry yourself (where the weight is) and mostly how much body fat you have. That's the biggest thing. When I was with my ex (who is a personal trainer) he urged me to stop thinking of weight in numbers but more or less as body fat and what percentage I have.

If you ever have the chance to get your body fat taken, I hightly suggest it. Women can weight 140 and be 5'4 but still be healthy because they have 18% body fat (which is lean).

sugar and spice 10-29-2002 06:50 PM

Technically, by numbers alone, you are overweight . . . but without a picture I think's impossible to tell whether or not you're fat. (Plus, I think most of us here are tactful enough that even if you were fat, we wouldn't come out and say it. Apparently this doesn't apply to all of us, though . . . :rolleyes: )

Everybody here has made really important points but I think amycat's was most important: why are you asking for somebody else's opinion on your weight? If you're happy with your weight, then that's more important than what everybody else thinks. If you're not happy, do something about it! I know my eating and exercise habits have a huge amount to do with how I view myself and my self-esteem -- way more than my weight, even. I know from previous experience that if I'm 115 pounds but eating tons of junk food and not exercising, I hate my body -- whereas if I'm 135 but I'm running, doing yoga and eating lots of fruits and veggies I feel a lot better about myself.

Imthechamp 10-29-2002 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kddani
mr. stud
Thanks for the compliment, sweetie. I'm not sure where you got the idea I was going to post a picture here. Sorry :(

I'm not sure why you people feel the need to make posts like this and put your pictures online. Are yall really that insecure that you need a bunch of strangers you don't even know to tell you "OH HEY YOU'RE CUTE!"

If you think you're fat, you are.

If you think you're ugly, you are.

Get it?

amycat412 10-29-2002 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sugar and spice
I know from previous experience that if I'm 115 pounds but eating tons of junk food and not exercising, I hate my body -- whereas if I'm 135 but I'm running, doing yoga and eating lots of fruits and veggies I feel a lot better about myself.
Exactly. Very good point. Being active and taking care of yourself, no matter what your weight is, feels good.

amycat412 10-29-2002 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Imthechamp


I'm not sure why you people feel the need to make posts like this and put your pictures online. Are yall really that insecure that you need a bunch of strangers you don't even know to tell you "OH HEY YOU'RE CUTE!"


Because some of us have been a part of the GC community for long time, have developed friendships from it, people we email and chat w daily and its nice to know what the person you've come to know looks like. I've met a GCer in person and she's become a very good friend, and for that, I am grateful to GC!
So its nothing to do with self esteem and more just to do with wanting to put a face to the personalities we've come to know on this board.

kddani 10-29-2002 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Imthechamp


Thanks for the compliment, sweetie. I'm not sure where you got the idea I was going to post a picture here. Sorry :(

I'm not sure why you people feel the need to make posts like this and put your pictures online. Are yall really that insecure that you need a bunch of strangers you don't even know to tell you "OH HEY YOU'RE CUTE!"

If you think you're fat, you are.

If you think you're ugly, you are.

Get it?

My pic's posted, but I never asked anyone what they thought of me.

Also, most of us have been posting pictures- refer to the Official Greekchat Photoalbum thread.

And additionally, the reason I said that to begin with, is that if you're going to criticize people in the manner in which you did, you'd better be perfect, or in this case, have a great body. Basically being able to back up what your mouth says.

No one's posted a picture and said- hey, rate me! So i'm not sure where you're getting that from.

Rudey 10-29-2002 08:26 PM

champ
 
I'm agreeing with UFPike and champ on this one. I don't care how you sugar coat this and how much you talk about muscle weighing more than fat, etc.

-Rudey
--"Hey you still are beautiful and i'm sure you carry the weight well"...I'm sure statements like that don't insult anyone's intelligence.

KillarneyRose 10-29-2002 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by UF_PikePC98
And, this might be piss some of you off, 160 pounds for a chick that is 5'4 is fat......most girls 5'9 don't even weigh 160 pounds.


Craig, most of the time you come off as a pretty damn smart guy. So I'm disappointed as hell to see you write this!!! Sweetie, there are lots of girls out there, yes, girls that would cause even you to turn around after them and say, "Mama, buy me some of that!" who are 5'9 and 160 lbs. In fact, there was a weight limit on my college dance team - 100 lbs for five feet and 7 lbs for every inch beyond that. So someone who was 5'9 would be allowed to weigh 163. And believe me, those were some teensy li'l uniforms with no place to hide bumps or bulges!

And for goodness sake guys....when you read a Playmate's profile and she says something like:
"My measurements are 36D-23-26, I'm 5'4 and I weigh 102 lbs." She's fibbing! It's simply not true. No way, no how, nuhuh :)

Imthechamp 10-29-2002 11:34 PM

Yeah, but those girls are beautiful.

I have yet to see any girls on this site who are better then average looking.

WhiteDaisy128 10-29-2002 11:42 PM

Quote:

Yeah, but those girls are beautiful
But they are also airbrushed and fake as hell. Most of the girls on GC don't have this luxuries.

RubberSoul 10-29-2002 11:42 PM

First of all, the post about the Playmate thing is SOOOOO true. I think that is the priomary reason guys are so completely ignorant about what women REALLY weigh. I am so sick of seeing these girls in there who are 36D-25-36 who are 5'9 and claim to weigh 119 pounds. PLEASE. Let me put it this way.....I am 5'8. I was a professional model in college, and by that I do not mean cheesecake bikini calendar crap where the girls are all hair and boobs......I mean I was SKINNY. I wore a size 2-4.....and I weighed 130-135 POUNDS!!!!!!!!!! And I didn't have six pounds of boobs either.

Second of all, I find the comment that there are only average looking women on here at best LAUGHABLE. Just read the comments from the other guys!!!!!! I'd LOVE to see your idea of beautiful.

Honestly, for 5'4 160 pounds is probably a bit overweight. I know that your frame size, muscle mass, etc. can factor but if you are asking about it I suspect your weight bothers you. Don't worry about what a bunch of strangers think. Get yourself to a weight YOU are comfortable with and you won't have to ask people who don't count.

Imthechamp 10-30-2002 12:00 AM

There is nothing wrong with fake tits or a fake nose.

I'd take that over a 160lb girl anyday.

librasoul22 10-30-2002 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Imthechamp
I have yet to see any girls on this site who are better then average looking.
D*mmit for not being technologically advanced! Clearly I need to get my pic on the yahoo thing, lol.

Imthechamp 10-30-2002 12:08 AM

You have quite the ego there, sweetie.

sororitygirl2 10-30-2002 12:09 AM

Yeah, I think I am above average but I refuse to post a picture -- I don't want people I don't know loking at me unless they pass my pre-screening!

I don't know... I'm not a supermodel or anything, but I think I'm pretty cute.

WhiteDaisy128 10-30-2002 12:14 AM

I did post a picture and I think I am at least a little above average...guess some guys just have standards that are just a bit unrealistic...at least we have personalities and something of a brain...

http://www.brentroad.com/photos/Cee-...lsize/5318.jpg
^^ Hardly hidious.

Imthechamp 10-30-2002 12:18 AM

Personality and brains mean nothing to me.


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