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James 02-26-2001 01:08 AM

Stop Alumni abuse and waste now! SAAWN
 
So you want an alumni program . . . Ok after you read this post pull out your word processor and draft the following:

A letter dated in October inviting alums back for homecoming and a special event you plan in conjunction with it.

A letter dated late fall inviting them to your semi-formal/formal.

A letter dated in the spring for your other formal-semi formal.

A letter inviting them to initiation.

A letter inviting them to whatever 13th annual something you hold.

A newsletter that informs about you but also targets alumni . . . have an alumni classified/updates section where they can write in to you and post updates, hello's etc. Make sure that at least 2 go out a semester. (one is better than none though)

Alum spotlight section . . .? It boggles the mind.

STOP always begging for money. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

Do something sneaky and actually plan Alumni reunion day . . . people get nostalgic about reunions, especially around founder's day . . . or homecoming!

Ok a bit more in depth . . . Get a bloody web site! And put a secured section on it where you can post events, a discussion board, update addresses etc . . . and have it password protected . . or not if you don't have the cgi script.

Mention the web site, the alumni section, newsletter, and All upcoming events as far in the future as possible in all letters and newsletters. This way every letter is an advertisement about all upcoming events . . . it creates a stronger hold on the mind the more you hear about things.

Also begin every letter with sentences summarizing and thanking people for ALL the events that just went by. Even if few or none showed up.

For example . . .

To: Alumni

From: AC chapter of ABC

Re: Semi-formal and upcoming events.

I wanted to thank everyone that came out to the Haunted Trail this holloween we had a great time.

Also your participation in homecoming was a lot of help. Although will someone please tell John smith '77 not to fall off the float again?

Just wanted to invite you to the semi formal coming up December 12th . . . details follow.

Also keep these dates in mind:

Feb 5 founders day/Reunion day

March 6-12 Greek Week will we take the cup again?

April 7th formal . . .

Sincerely, blah.

What I find is that people complicate things when it comes to writing programs. Just systematically include alumni into larger chapter events. Keep them over-informed. Tell them you miss them. Guilt is good. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

Instead of asking for blatant donations all the time, tax them a little. If you are having reunion day and expenses are 5 dollars a person charge 7 . . .

After you do this for a year make it part of your undergrad program to pay ten dollars a year to the chapter after you graduate. that way they expect it, and cite the cots of newsletters etc.

Waiting the first year or half a year will give your program credibility and then you can voluntarily ask alumni to contribute ten dollars a year. Have a table set up at events http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif And give them a pen or something . . .freebies never hurt.

Seriously, take an hour or two and just draft letters and the format for a newsletter based on last years' activites. That way you'll have them on file (disk and notebook).

I would be interested to see how many people would actually start this. I am myself right now. Please say something here or email me privately if you do, or want to discuss more ideas.

However, if you are unwilling to sit down for a couple hours and game something out then you probably don't want to have an alumni program in a meaningful way.

Oh, and don't get frustrated if attendance is bad at first . . . Focus a lot on recent grads also . . . they still know and like you. If you can stop losing them in the beginning it will help.



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DeltAlum 02-26-2001 01:29 AM

James,

Brilliant.

Unregistered- 02-26-2001 01:38 AM

Thank you, James for providing your ideas. I hope that a lot of people will be able to strengthen collegian-alumni relations this way.

I am fortunate that my collegiate chapter has fabulous alumnae support. In fact, they have been a 5 five star chapter 5 years in a row!!! They absolutely love being included in our events (Rose Ball, fundraisers, etc.). At our last initiation last semester, one of our alumna actually cried because she hasn't seen an initiation for 17 years. Being a military wife she wasn't able to be a part of an alumnae chapter until she moved to Honolulu. The alums are also the ones who hydrate and feed us after a long day of washing cars. And they're also the ones helping 10 girls fundraise to go to Convention this year.

Because of moments like that, the alums mean so much to me, and I wish the best of luck to all of you.

sigmagrrl 02-26-2001 07:48 AM

I must also applaud your post! You should send that to your fraternity's national magazine!! May I borrow a few ideas??

DeltAlum 02-26-2001 04:59 PM

Undergrads...

Write those letters now. Avoid the rush later. Not pun intended.

DeltAlum

Tom Earp 02-26-2001 07:04 PM

What many of you do not realze, that without Alum/ Supprt chapters fail! How would you like a chapter that does't tell you Sh__! Then they complain that they have NO cooperation from the the Alumni? Well DA keep the the Alums informed. I got back in with both feet when We almost lost our charter! I still kept in touch. All I heard was the Alums don't come around, well why should we if you do not keep us informed! It is not tne alums fault if you F Upped. We all have lives to live. Remember, it is always a 2 way street! Do not cry little children! I hate to hear that they are just kids. Well Hell I was just a kid when I started the damn thing. 35 yr. later we are still going!!

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James 02-26-2001 10:08 PM

Thank you for the positive feedback! You'll turn my head with such flattery http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif.

I believe that the basics of what I mentioned above provides the framework of an alumni program.

Now the trick would be if we could maybe brainstorm with eachother and add depth and breadth to that framework.

For example, creating (assuming you haven't already) an alumni mentoring program where an active/alum pair grouping is established.

This might work especially well with current officers/chairs and past officers/chairs (now alum). Why always reinvent the wheel, learn what they already know.

You could ask for volunteers generically through your letters and more specifically in letters from current officers directly to alum ones.

The relationship could be based primarily on emails, computer chat, and phone calls. Where you agree to converse a minumum of once a week at a set time.

As a side benefit I bet you guys become friends and they have a renewed interest in the chapter. And they are more likely to motivate other alum they know to help out. They will be involved without smothering you.

Important Fact: The greatest motivator for Alumni are other Alumni.

Side idea: Have an alum as a co-chair for the committee and ask them to establish an alumni committee (if only on paper) to help you out.

And have her/him sign off on your letters.

You can expand the program a bit if you like and have alum mentors to pledges/new members.

The mentoring thing may work out especially well because:

Past officers had a lot of ownership in the chapter.

Sometimes as people get older they have silly ideas like the chapter is to childish for them or inappropriate to be around. This gives them a mature relationship.

Another note: If you don't make a special effort to contact your chapter founders (the living ones) or perhaps the oldest surviving members you should be spanked http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

You owe them everything, and starting a chapter is such a labor of love.

Let me relate a story (stop reading here if you are bored).

There was a chapter of my fraternity started many years ago in Canada. The founding president went on to become a very important supreme court judge, but did he forget his chapter? No.

In every composite since the first one there are bright young faces . . . and his, slowly aging over the decades as he went back every year and helped nurture his chapter.

His face slowly aging in that composite every year of every decade until his death a couple years ago.

I believe that level of love and dedication probably exists in a number of our alumni, we just need to give them a meaningful way to express it.

This story was especially touching for me because I was the founding president of my chapter (colony and chapter).

So bring on the ideas http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif.

dzrose93 02-27-2001 01:13 AM

Awesome ideas! I'm on the Alumnae Advisory Board for the DZ chapter at the University of Georgia. Our National Headquarters just made the Alumnae Relations chair an executive board position in an attempt to get more alums involved with collegiate affairs. I'm sending a copy of your note to the girl in charge of Alumnae Relations at UGA -- she's been asking for ideas and this will give her PLENTY to start working on! THANKS!!!

Carrie

matthewg 02-27-2001 07:47 PM

Here is one more James,

(by the way - good ideas, it is funny how that resembles current European fraternity structures)

Well, have a local alumni and possibly even chapter member as an alumni officer! He can also oversee things at the house and is often NOT overheard when there is a need for money for repairs in the house that are to expensive for the actives to pay.

cheers,
Matt

Miami1839 03-07-2001 09:48 AM

I love these ideas. Especially yours DeltAlum. James, that was a touching story. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif As I've said on another thread I'm about to get involved with the Beta Theta Pi DC Alumni Association. These ideas are a great help. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

Kevin

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SilverTurtle 04-18-2001 01:37 PM

James,these are some incredibly awesome ideas! I would like to share them with our collegiate chapters, if you don't mind. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif



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equeen 04-20-2001 05:57 PM

James,

As a Chapter Founder and Alumnae Sister, I certainly appreciate what you're saying - not to mention they're just great ideas, period! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Kapsig1 06-06-2001 04:30 PM

I am a Kappa Sigma alumnus who is very involved in both my chapter's alumni assoc/house corp and also on a national level. I can tell you THE single most effective suggestion to improve alumni relations with the undergrad chapter:

Recruit 3 or 4 ALUMNI to direct, plan and implement the alumni relations program! Alumni want to hear about the chapter, sure, but they want to hear MORE about the guys they went to school with. Solid, consistent newsletters to alumni (3 or more per year) with 80% alumni/ 20% undergrad news is a must. Initiate a "Hall of Honor" to recognize those alums that have excelled in the community, business, fraternity, life, etc. When recognized and honored as the living, breathing example of what it means to be a "XYZ", these guys will (usually) become your biggest fans.....and CONTIBUTORS!

MooseGirl 07-28-2001 02:43 PM

I don't want to make excuses, but i guess the reason we fell out of contact with alum is that their contact info changes and they don't tell us or national...they just disappear. Fortunately an alum chapter has reactivated here and, as an alum now, I am working on tracking everyone down. We sent out an alum newsletter...I've received several returned, but at least now I know what addresses are wrong. And because I'm so nice, I'll share this info with the active chapter so they can start work on their own newsletters.


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Tom Earp 07-28-2001 04:18 PM

MooseGirl, I can totally relate! My Chapter sat on their hands and so did the Alums!
I had an incident at our Founders Day Dinner 3 years ago and got really incensend!
Got back in with 100 % of my self and was designated as the official locator! I guessed my voice would carry weight!
I contacted International and asked for the disc of my chapter and started there.
I already knew local Brothers and contacted them or their parents if that was all I had. I started out with 10 E-M and have built to @ 190. Because of the phone cards I sell in my store,I was able to contact Brothers all over the country and got updates from them. I used search engines looking for names. i found names and called them. A lot were wrong but I hit a Gem of one. Found the parents of # 8 and called him. It is a long hard struggle but at the last Founders Day which we used a hook as the 35 th Anniversay of the Founding of the local, we had 80 +.
I am now pointing to the Homecoming and then next Founders Day again to get even more back!
The Alums are the life blood of any chapter as they are the ones who will work with and go the extra mile! Not all of course!! We are looking to build a new house and we do not want to put the chapter in over their heads so we started a Building Drive!
It would behoove the chapters to stay in contact as there are some hard driving Alums such as my self who get others and who get others ETC. ETC> ETC!
I keep pushing the actives to keep the Alums informed of what is happening!
I dont know how many times I got E-M from Alums who say keep the info coming as like to see what is happening even though they cannot be there!

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Pittsburg State U. (Kansas)

AOX81 06-12-2002 10:36 AM

I remember reading this post a long time ago and I remember it having a lot of good ideas. I'm an Alum and I'm helping the active members get their stuff organized so the communication between ALL members will be improved.

Your ideas are wonderful James.

AXPAlum 06-12-2002 04:30 PM

I agree, it's just that many people don't want to or just don't have the time or effort to sit down and do this type of work. It takes a lot of dedication and energy to get your alumni to attend. Not mention the $$ factor. Good ideas, yes, but now the trouble is finding a small group that can take on the task and go through with it without being half-assed.

AXPAlum

DWAlphaGam 06-12-2002 07:09 PM

I'm really glad that you ressurected this thread, AOX81! Thank you! I recently became alumnae relations advisor for my chapter, which has had virtually next to no contact with alumnae for the past few years. We have made great strides in the past 2 years, finally producing a newsletter, setting up a website and a Yahoo group, and having alumnae day again, but our contact is still very limited. I will be passing this thread along to the alumnae relations coordinator to see what we can come up with as far as using some of these ideas for our chapter. Thank you, James, for your ideas, and if anyone else has any other ideas, please pass them along! :)

UMgirl 06-12-2002 07:48 PM

I 'd also like to say thank to James for starting this.
I would just like to say that also...when you invite alumni down to help out with stuff...LET US HELP! And if we give you advice, its not that we dont think you dont know what you're doing or talking about, its just that we 've known the campus longer then you and have been through what your going through. Its never hurt anyone to ask for help :)

AOX81 06-13-2002 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by DWAlphaGam
I'm really glad that you ressurected this thread, AOX81! Thank you!
Your welcome :)

Tom Earp 06-13-2002 04:10 PM

UMGirl, a very good point!

In our better days, we sent out a news letter 2 times a year!

It high lighted what the Chapter was doing and at least something about 2 Alums! It gave a list of events of per semester, Births, weddings, who got Initiated, recruted, and a state of the Fraternity Message from the High Alpha, President!

Alums do want to help where they can as 98 % remember what the good old days are even though they be only Graduated for one or two years!

Everyone loves to see their name in print.

No one was more suprised that me when I was presented the Alumni of The Decade Award at Founders Day!

One of the few times I was Speachless!

Remember one thing Tho, it can only be put in if they are notified!

Also with the cost of printing and mailing it can be a drain on the Budget. Cyber sends can only reach so many. If you do not have the address, well they do not get the message!

That is why getting e-m is so important and you can only get that by working your tail off! Well of couse if they remmeber to send you a change of address!:)

LXAAlum 06-13-2002 05:29 PM

One thing about invites - don't send a homecoming activity invitation to alums just two weeks before the event - give a minimum of 3 MONTHS lead time for alums to get the calendar squared away - life in the "real" world (work, spouse, kids) gets full-up quickly. The more lead time, the greater the probability of attending.

UMgirl 06-13-2002 06:35 PM

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Originally posted by LXAAlum
One thing about invites - don't send a homecoming activity invitation to alums just two weeks before the event - give a minimum of 3 MONTHS lead time for alums to get the calendar squared away - life in the "real" world (work, spouse, kids) gets full-up quickly. The more lead time, the greater the probability of attending.
Thank You!

sweetie adpi 06-13-2002 08:06 PM

thanks again
 
hiya... i'd found this post a while ago but hadn't posted... i wanna take the opportunity to thank james and those who posted more ideas and resurrected the thread... one of our chapter goals is improvement in alumni relations, and you all have some great ideas going on here, so... thanks!!!

Tom Earp 06-14-2002 05:02 PM

We had a Leadership or mentoring meet with our actives and discussed the points that needed to be laid out for them!

1 Set an agenda
2 list the agenda and let me know as I am the one who sends out e-m Messages. A lot off hard work but have over 200 now!
3 Put together a Lambda Gram, our newsletter!
4 List dates of events so that the Brothers will be aware of them early enough to make plans to come back!


Alums have familys, and while they still have the feeling, it may be hard with out early notice they cannot come!

I know ours are all over the country and have to set up plans to be there!

Try 2 main times of the year! First Semester, Homecoming. Second Semester Founders Day! This way, maybe they can come back for at least one!

If they can come for at least one, you have won the battle, you get them there! If they have a good time, heck it is like glue, they will stick!

But of course, they need to know what is going on!

After 4 years, I am finally getting Brothers to send me changes and getting leads and e-m list to put in our data bank so we can let them know!

Sad but true, I have @ 200 out of 600!


They really want to hear from you!!!!!!!! They will do more if you do!

Remember, they had the love for the Fraternity/Soroity to spend time with you. It is hard to turn that love off!:) I rember every member of the local I started and am pissed because I am missing 3 out of 20!

I am still looking!

pinkyphimu 07-26-2002 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LXAAlum
One thing about invites - don't send a homecoming activity invitation to alums just two weeks before the event - give a minimum of 3 MONTHS lead time for alums to get the calendar squared away - life in the "real" world (work, spouse, kids) gets full-up quickly. The more lead time, the greater the probability of attending.
Wow...three weeks...that is a lot in my chapter. I once received an invite to initiation 3 days before it was scheduled! I live 6 hrs away from the chapter, so I had no chance of ever making it. And it was scheduled for a Wednesday at 10 PM, even the local alums couldn't make it!


I really appreciate all of the suggestions that everyone has made. I wish the girls from my chapter were reading this! When I was collegiate president, I added the position of corresponding secretary (our chapter was pretty small so we had one secretary doing recording and corresponding prior to this). I graduated 5 years ago, and each year since I have received less and less mail. As a matter of fact, I don't think I have seen a newsletter in over a year! And we have a chapter association, too. I have gotten one newsletter in 2 years. It is definately hard to contribute to the chapter's wish list when I haven't heard a thing from them!!

KillarneyRose 07-28-2002 11:21 PM

Great idea James, I can't believe I didn't see it the "first time around"!

Unfortunately, when I was in college we looked at the involved alumnae as people who basically had no life. What a shame! I'm sure there would have been so many sisters who would have loved to be included in things but weren't.

EagleChick19 09-21-2002 06:58 PM

BUMP!!!

AlphaSigLana 11-19-2002 07:36 PM

I was just elected VP of Alum and heritage of my chapter. i am so excited. I have gotten great ideas from this forum. The VP before me did a great job getting alum involved so i hope I continue to do the same!

Tom Earp 11-19-2002 10:36 PM

Hey Sweety, thanks for moving this up in the threads a bit! Congratualstions!!!!!

If need any help, Just a moment away!:D

Ya Da Best!!!!!!!:)

AlphaSigLana 12-05-2002 10:31 PM

does anyone know what NOT to do with Alum?? I am trying to come up with creative ideas, but I also don't want to do something that may be too hard for them to participate in(due to their schedules etc)

LeslieAGD 12-05-2002 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by AlphaSigLana
does anyone know what NOT to do with Alum??
Don't call/e-mail/bug alums when you only want money or want them to fix your mistakes. As a recent alum, the latter seems to be the only time I ever hear from my chapter. :rolleyes:

angelic1 12-15-2002 11:14 PM

This is a real good thread.. I have gotten a couple of good ideas from it...

Until this semester we really didnt have much contact btw our alumni and our chapter. We have great advisors (alum) that help us out and are very dedicated, but that was about it. SO.. my main goal was to improve this.. I got selected as the IG chair of alumni relations...

this semester I have...

set up a listserv-- i have emailed them a bunch about upcoming activities to invite them to them.. also so they are aware of whats going on

set up an alumni section to our website-- they can put announcements here

held an alumni brunch before a football game

created a newsletter

an updated a lot of files.. granted this is not a lot but has taken up a lot of my time.. since we had only a list of names without really update email or addresses..


though i have gotten such good feedback from them. Everytime I send out an email to them, I get at least 15 back saying how great this is and how excited they are.. I hope that if we keep up this our alumni will start coming back more and more to things.. my goal is to have at least 30% come back to our 25th anniversary formal (still a few years away)...

UofIL AXO 12-15-2002 11:26 PM

Bump!

Tom Earp 12-16-2002 11:15 PM

As I have said many times, it takes a lot of hard work! But guess what, it will be well worth it when you see the Alums coming together!

I am starting an e-m drive to get Alums back for Founders Day in Feb! Yep that damn early!

I did this 2 years ago and we had 80 +.. Well, I want more this time! I will get it as I am a bull dog in doing things!

Dont give up the fight! In the words of Brother Rambo, the 10-90 %. 10 % do the work and 90 % dont do anything!

Use the KISS principle, keep it simple stupid!

AOX81 02-12-2003 11:40 AM

This is such a good thread that I thought it needed to be bumped up...again! :)

ajuhdg 04-15-2003 03:18 AM

I'm so glad y'all bumped this up! I'm an overseas alumna with lots of time on her hands, so I've been in close contact with my chapter! We've got a new collegiate advisor and she's making a lot of changes!

I hope you don't mind, James, but I cut and pasted your email to a word document so I could email it to her! The only true activity that I remember as a collegian is asking them to come to our rush preview show. (We'd present materials for each day of rush, outfits, skits etc.) But, not much more...except the money thing....of course!

However, my school is in the final stages of completion for the Greek Park. All the sororities will have a house, and rush will now be conducted from them. I hope that interest will grow, considering total is usually only about 60. This information couldn't have come at a better time for me! THANK YOU!

Adrienne

DELTA GAMMA

James 04-21-2003 01:11 AM

Thats great. Just keep in touch with her. Follow-up is crucial.



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Originally posted by ajuhdg
I'm so glad y'all bumped this up! I'm an overseas alumna with lots of time on her hands, so I've been in close contact with my chapter! We've got a new collegiate advisor and she's making a lot of changes!

I hope you don't mind, James, but I cut and pasted your email to a word document so I could email it to her! The only true activity that I remember as a collegian is asking them to come to our rush preview show. (We'd present materials for each day of rush, outfits, skits etc.) But, not much more...except the money thing....of course!

However, my school is in the final stages of completion for the Greek Park. All the sororities will have a house, and rush will now be conducted from them. I hope that interest will grow, considering total is usually only about 60. This information couldn't have come at a better time for me! THANK YOU!

Adrienne

DELTA GAMMA


Tom Earp 07-19-2003 09:10 AM

James, thanks for getting this back up!:cool:

Any updates from previous posters??:confused:

All of the above still need to be carried on to get Alum growth.

This Wed. 14 KC area Alums are going to the T-Bones BaseBall game just to have fun and BS. If there are Alums in your area, just fun get togethers are great. Bonding is a way for Alums to get together and even talk about the Chapter and what is happening!:)

cougarchic 07-27-2003 10:04 PM

I think all these ideas are great James!

I'm the New Member Educator for my sorority and one of the things that we do with our alumnae is have "Alum Chums". An Alum Chum is paired up with a new member at the beginning of the pledge semester. Throughout the pledge semester they have lunch together, the new member corresponds with them through letters and phone calls, we invite them to bid day and initiation, and the alum usually gives them a gift at initiation, and they're invited to any other chapter event we feel is necessary. It is just a way for us to establish a relationship with our alumnae and new members and showing them from the start that membership does not end after 4 years.


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