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guardian_angel! 10-17-2002 02:24 PM

What can a chapter do if you have a girl like the Real World's Trishelle?
 
I know her Chi Omega chapter at USM must be dealing with this same issue. Any suggestions?

DeltaSigStan 10-17-2002 02:27 PM

Since I don't watch the Real World, can someone fill me in on why she's such a problem?

33girl 10-17-2002 02:33 PM

She is being portrayed on RW as being, ahem, slightly loose. How much is the magic of editing and how much is real, I can't say.

Someone can be brought in front of standards board for issues like this, but it can't be a situation of "well Mary sleeps around, but it's OK cause we like her, but Jenny sleeps around and we hate her, so we are going to kick her out." If violating curfew, having men where they shouldn't be, etc is going to be a standards violation, it has to apply to everyone.

Angels&Arrows 10-17-2002 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by h2oot
I wonder who Guardian Angel is considering this is her first post to GC. I suspect it's "you know" who stirring her witches brew again.
We would appreciate GC members not furthering this thread.

Out of respect for GC, Chi Omega and H2oot, I deleted my post on this thread. I tried to delete my posts ont he other thread, once someone outed her GLO, but it would not delete the first one, only the second one.

H2oot, Guardian Angel does not have enough comma's to be "you know!!!!":D

DeltaSigStan 10-18-2002 12:18 PM

Can someone pm me: Who is "you know who"?

Dionysus 10-18-2002 12:57 PM

It's the V's dum dum dummmmmmmmmmm! :eek:

woolworth 10-18-2002 01:19 PM

http://www-org.usm.edu/~chiomega/Sis...s/image006.jpg

DeltaSigStan 10-18-2002 01:58 PM

And?

Jesus I'm lost on this topic.

lionlove 10-18-2002 02:03 PM

me too...
What's going on?

h2oot 10-18-2002 02:18 PM

Its a troublemaker trying to cause probs. Note that the peeps who started the thread and posted the pic only have one post. To explain this would be playing the witches game.

Usually, GC does not tolerate troublemakers and deletes posts that target a group.

guardian_angel! 10-20-2002 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
And?

Jesus I'm lost on this topic.

You would have to watch the Real World Las Vegas episodes to understand. Trishelle does not come off to well because some of her actions made her look "sluty" and "easy". My original question was since she is/was a Chi Omega what would your chapter do with a girl like that? Understand now?

Noa 10-20-2002 10:45 PM

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Originally posted by guardian_angel!


You would have to watch the Real World Las Vegas episodes to understand. Trishelle does not come off to well because some of her actions made her look "sluty" and "easy". My original question was since she is/was a Chi Omega what would your chapter do with a girl like that? Understand now?

There have been plenty of OTHER people on Real World episodes that act a certain way and they were affiliated with different GREEK organizations.

If she were in my organization and acted that way I have to admit I would be a little embarassed. However, one must remember that an individual's actions do not necessarily reflect on any particular organization.

Furthermore since Trishelle (in this case) is no longer a member of Chi Omega I don't see how this applies. From what I understood she lost her membership before she joined the Real World. So, who cares what she does!!!!! I just don't see why you have to single her out. I mean, come on. All it looks like you are doing is digging up dirt on someone who really is not a part of a GREEK organization. At least you could have made reference to someone who was still Greek :rolleyes:

Also, I am sure there are plenty of women and men who are famous that do not necessarily act the best and are affiliated with a Greek organization. If you are going to single out one, we might as well discuss them all :cool:

Optimist Prime 10-20-2002 11:00 PM

Witche's brew huh????


I'm reporting this to the Anti-Defamation Leuge. Just kidding. What the picture had to do with anything I don't know. ARe they all screwing the chucky cheese mouse? I'm confused. Stan I'll pm you.

guardian_angel! 10-20-2002 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Noa


However, one must remember that an individual's actions do not necessarily reflect on any particular organization.

I never claimed that they did. Where did that come from?

Quote:

Originally posted by Noa


Furthermore since Trishelle (in this case) is no longer a member of Chi Omega I don't see how this applies. From what I understood she lost her membership before she joined the Real World.

How do you know she lost her membership? My point was what would a chapter do if they had a girl like her. She may not have been a Chi Omega during the show but that doesn't change the fact she used to be one.

I like how you express your feelings Noa, I think we could be good friends.

carnation 10-20-2002 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by guardian_angel!



How do you know she lost her membership? My point was what would a chapter do if they had a girl like her. She may not have been a Chi Omega during the show but that doesn't change the fact she used to be one.




And your hangup with Chi Omega would be.......????????

guardian_angel! 10-20-2002 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by carnation




And your hangup with Chi Omega would be.......????????

None. If she were a Pi Phi, ZTA, or DZ ; I would have treated it the same.

Noa 10-21-2002 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by guardian_angel!


I never claimed that they did. Where did that come from?



How do you know she lost her membership? My point was what would a chapter do if they had a girl like her. She may not have been a Chi Omega during the show but that doesn't change the fact she used to be one.

I like how you express your feelings Noa, I think we could be good friends.


I know that you did not say what I wrote. I was simply pointing out that no matter what our organizations stand for, there will be those that do not always uphold those ideals and standards. We should remember that before degrading each other. I know that I have not always upheld the motto of my sorority to its highest standards. Still, I have qualities in me that make me a wonderful XYZ. And although Trishelle (in this case) may come across as a slut (as some have called her), we should remember that
1) Television (especially MTv) can twist things to make them appear a certain way.
2) She and others on the shows have issues like real people.
3) She may still have qualities that made her a wonderful member of this certain organization at one time (even though she is no longer a part of it).

I do raise one question:
When do we draw the line to when we are OURSELVES and not necessarily a representative to our organizations? When we're at our best we always affiliate ourselves, yet when we are at our worst, we aren't a "good representation" and often critisized.
Can we not be representations to ourselves first and to our organizations second? I try to represent my organization to the best at all times. I do not believe I have ever done something so terrible that my organization would frown upon me. Am I lucky for that? Perhaps. However I have had sisters who were simply being themselves and for that, they were disciplined and/or removed from the organization. Does that make them less of a person? I do not think so. Does it mean they weren't worthy of being a member? I do not think so. So if these sisters who were removed act a certain way do you think I sit there shaking my head because they once represented my organization? No. They are free to do what they want with their lives. I cannot dwell on them behaving a certain way just because they used to be my sister.

This ties into your question and statement that it did not change the fact that she used to be one.

I simply think the only reason this is suddenly an issue is because this is on television. Do you think her chapter is getting flack or praise? My guess is both. Is it easy for them? I'm certain it isn't. Still, Trishelle's actions aren't that of this particular organization...and she hasn't publicized her once affiliation. Therefore, why make a big deal about it.:confused:

The question should be...If someone in your chapter acted un-XYZ like, how would you deal with them. I appreciate your example, but still, Trishelle is her own person.

CarolinaCutie 10-21-2002 12:39 AM

Wow... that's a really good answer. Definitely food for thought.

Thrillhouse 10-21-2002 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
. How much is the magic of editing and how much is real, I can't say.




The magic of editing is the only thing that keeps these shows going nowadays.

Angels&Arrows 10-21-2002 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by carnation

And your hangup with Chi Omega would be.......????????

ROFLMAO... Carnation, calling a spade a spade!!!! Love my sister!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dzrose93 10-21-2002 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by guardian_angel!
How do you know she lost her membership? My point was what would a chapter do if they had a girl like her. She may not have been a Chi Omega during the show but that doesn't change the fact she used to be one.
What Greek affiliation she USED to have is neither here nor there. She is not a Chi Omega any longer. She was NOT a Chi Omega when she participated in the show. So what does her conduct on the show have to do with Chi Omega? The answer is a big, fat NOTHING.

If someone is not abiding by the standards that a Greek organization has set, then that person can lose their membership. But what that person does AFTER the membership termination, good or bad, is no reflection on the GLO to which he/she used to belong.

I'm not a member of Chi Omega, and I'm certainly not a member of the chapter where Trishelle was from. Therefore, I'm not going to presume to know what circumstances caused the girl's membership to be terminated. However, I do have a firm faith in NPC organizations, and I know that they don't take membership termination lightly. If a girl's membership is terminated, then you can bet the farm that there is a very good reason behind it. And I don't think that it's really our place on GreekChat to question that reason.

Bottom line: Every GLO handles problems within their chapters in a way that they feel is best for the chapter. If the problem lies with a specific member, then that member may be reprimanded, put on probation, suspended, or completely terminated -- all depending on how severe the problem is. Every case is different and every GLO is different, so it's impossible to make a blanket statement as to how chapters deal with "problem" members.

2017law 10-21-2002 10:53 AM

trishelle
 
Did anyone ever answer why she is no longer a member? Is she alum or is she out b/c of the show? Is that something that most GLOs do? Janet from Seatle was a DDD and the chick from Hawaii was a KKG. Were they kicked out as well?
Just something to think about....
Why is she doing what she's doing?
She said she feels as though her father doesn't love her. Ever think she is sleeping around or hooking up a lot to make herself feel love from some man to make up for the love she doesn't get from her dad?
I don't approve of her actions, but before I blame her GLO or ask what they would do, I would think about why she does what she does and see if anyone can help her.
2017

dzrose93 10-21-2002 11:12 AM

Re: trishelle
 
Quote:

Originally posted by 2017law
Did anyone ever answer why she is no longer a member? Is she alum or is she out b/c of the show? Is that something that most GLOs do? Janet from Seatle was a DDD and the chick from Hawaii was a KKG. Were they kicked out as well?
Just something to think about....

As I and others mentioned earlier in the thread, Trishelle is no longer a member of Chi Omega. Her membership was terminated before she did the show, so her actions on the Real World have nothing to do with a GLO.

Only a member of the Chi Omega chapter where Trishelle pledged can answer the question as to why she is no longer a member. However, within the NPC, the termination of someone's membership is a private decision that is usually made between the individual in question and a judiciary committee. I know that my organization has a strict policy about keeping J-board meetings private, and, as a rule, they are not discussed with people who aren't on J-Board. I'm sure that most NPC organizations have practices similar to ours.

I would suggest that we respect the privacy of our fellow sisters in Chi Omega by dropping the Trishelle issue. I'm sure that we have all had "questionable" members in each of our chapters at some point, and I seriously doubt that we would appreciate those people being spotlighted on GreekChat.

Just my .02! :)

2017law 10-21-2002 11:27 AM

My point had nothing to do with XO and the org. It had to do with why Trishelle does what she does. Instead of ripping her or XO, I was asking people to think about WHY she does what she does.
I have nothing against XO. My concern is not for XO, it's for the girl. She is obviously trying to compensate for her father's lack of affection by getting it from other men.
To any other org dealing with a girl like this, I urge you to get her help.
2017

dzrose93 10-21-2002 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 2017law
My point had nothing to do with XO and the org. It had to do with why Trishelle does what she does. Instead of ripping her or XO, I was asking people to think about WHY she does what she does.
I have nothing against XO. My concern is not for XO, it's for the girl. She is obviously trying to compensate for her father's lack of affection by getting it from other men.
To any other org dealing with a girl like this, I urge you to get her help.
2017

2017, I understand the point you were trying to make, and I do agree that the girl might have some personal issues that need to be handled. However, I was responding to your other comments which are listed below. Sorry for the confusion. :)

quote:
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Originally posted by 2017law
Did anyone ever answer why she is no longer a member? Is she alum or is she out b/c of the show? Is that something that most GLOs do? Janet from Seatle was a DDD and the chick from Hawaii was a KKG. Were they kicked out as well?
Just something to think about....
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AlphaSigLana 10-28-2002 07:05 PM

If anyone really wants to know about Trishelle I'm sure if you visit the MTV site there is a way to contact her and find out why she was terminated, why that would be so important is beyond me. I didn't even know that she had been a member of Chi Omega until reading this post.
I personally think Trishelle is a small town girl with low self-esteem who wants guys attentions bc she has problems with her Dad(according to an episode I saw). I really don't see what her sex life has to do with her membership in Chi Omega. Chi Omega is a wonderful org. and has outstanding women.:)

White_Chocolate 12-12-2002 01:15 PM

solution pollution
 
when i went through rush, my chapter loved me and embraced me as an individual. i worked my ass off to get respect by doing as many community service hours as i could while maintaining a 40 hr job, 11 hr school schedule(i took snowboarding which was worth 2 hrs), and i was elected to an office my first year in sorority.

however, i had a little problem with making out with every hot guy that said i was cute. let's just say, i was a little hooch. then, i grew up and realized that my sorority sisters were being tagged as 'the girls to hook up with' when we would go to house parties over on u of l campus. and i didn't like that. so, i quit making out with every hot guy and got my ass a boyfriend.

or you say do what my sisters said to me. . .
Calm the f* down!.

LeslieAGD 12-12-2002 03:35 PM

If you have a member with questionable actions, I would suggest sitting him or her down and discussing your concerns. If this does not work, you may want to bring it to the attention of your standards board.

If you want to discuss the actions of Trishelle, in regards to the Real World and NOT her former GLO affiliation, here is an already existing thread in Chit Chat: Real World - Las Vegas

AXOLiz 12-18-2002 01:54 PM

Wow, I may be off base here since I haven't been around as long as many of you...but it seems like the real question was how any chapter would deal with a problem member who was representing the chapter poorly, in this case through public, promiscuous behavior. Trishelle just happened to be the one currently on TV behaving that way AND happened to be greek at one point AND also happened to be a former member of Chi Omega (and obviously not representative of the org. as a whole). Seems like the person asking the question was just asking a question and didn't know it had to be worded in such a way to not get labeled as one of the you-know-who's...:( Maybe it's just me, but it could've as easily been, "Since y'all work in nuclear power plants, how would you deal with a worker that acts like Homer Simpson?", if this was a nuclear power plant workers' board and all.

Anyhow, I hope I didn't offend anyone. I understand THEY caused a ton of problems before, but I don't see how attacking someone with a question and trying to keep from talking about it if it even seems to be a remote possibility that the poster is one of THEM helps at all. I mean, if we're refusing to answer legitimate questions - even if they're not worded in the most sensitive way - and jumping on new posters who know nothing of what happened before...isn't that the kind of trouble you-know-who would've loved to see happen in the first place?

And to answer the original question as I've interpreted it - I was the VP of standards for my chapter, and that's what our standards board dealt with all the time. If someone wasn't representing the chapter well, one of us would talk to them. Sometimes people didn't know how what they were doing looked, and that was all it took. If the problem continued, we'd call them in and talk to them as a board, if for no other reason than concern for their well-being. You *can* take further action if they are consistently bringing down the chapter image to the point where it's a serious problem, but we never had anything get that bad. No matter what, you always have chapter advisors around as well, so they can help deal with a problem member.

And my guess would be that if someone was behaving in a way that was seriously harmful to the reputation of the chapter as a whole, chances are there's a bigger problem going on. I would hope, in that situation, that the brothers or sisters would help the member get through it.

chioprincess 12-24-2002 11:50 AM

just some thoughts
 
Chi Omega has a wonderful program that we share with all our members about issues such as self esteem, drugs, eating disorders etc. I have seen a lot of girls pass through my organization and through other organizations who need some kind of counseling and reassuring, and I commend Chi Omega for starting a program to help educate us. I would also like to say we focus ALWAYS on the women and we never focus on the guy.... Is the guy she's sleeping with from a fraternity? I mean watever, it has nothing to do with the fact that she has severe emotional problems and needs help.

UMgirl 01-27-2003 01:50 PM

AXOLiz-- Very good point!

The real question, was how would your chapter deal with a girl that behaved in the same manner as Trishelle did?

h2oot 01-27-2003 02:38 PM

There are a lot of factors that go into any personnel matter and to speculate on the net wouldn't do any good, cuz you only have the single perception presented here and not the whole picture.

Thus, my answer to this question would be that nothing would be done without careful deliberation of all the facts and issues involved. And, since these aren't available, the question, since it involves a real person in a real chapter, is inappropriate at best.

meridionaleDG 06-27-2003 12:27 PM

I hate to bring up an old thread like this, but after aksing about Ace from the real world, I was curious is anyone ever talked about Trishelle.

She was a Chi Omega at my school, and we have a smaller Greek System (I mean we all live in the same building for heck's sackes). When the show was airing, none of the Chi Omegas talked about - I just don't think it was that big of deal to them. I really have no clue why she isn't a Chi Omega anymore - and that shouldn't be my curiosity anyways - it is between her and her chapter.

I know for the most part, GC members are usually the ones who are gung-ho about their Greek Org and are likely the ones to be dressing their kids in their mascot. Other people, just join a sorority to be in a sorority. When they get out in the "Real World" so to speak, they realize there is a lot more out there. Sure we all have greek letters, but we are people first.

I think it is such a double standard though. When a non-greek gets mad because some greek beat up his best friend, and then they blame the entire fraternity - we all say that is bad. But when a member does something that we can gossip about - it suddenly reflects their whole sorority?

For the Chi Omegas on this board - don't fret. Chi Omega at Southern Miss is a *great* chapter. They have been one of the bests since way back when. Both my aunts were Chi O's there - but I just chose to go DG instead. To me The Chi O's at southern remind you of one of those really pretty blondes in a disney movie. Just wherever they go they have cute little animals following them with rays on sunshine. Hahhaa - yea I know I sound dumb, but they are honestly *good* girls and always have a smile on their face. Do I think the way that MTV edited Trishelle's actions reflect her chapter - no. And as for as we should be concerned, that should be the end of it. She was a sister of that chapter, but she was always a person with her own issues and morals. We all are.

Anyways, sorry for bringing this back up. I just feel bad for the girl.

mmcat 07-10-2003 08:17 AM

i don't...
 
feel badly for trishelle. the real world is not a new commodity. she knew the potential when she walked in the door and from the looks of things thoroughly enjoyed herself.

ZTAngel 10-28-2003 10:53 PM

Surprisingly, she's been acting really good on the Gauntlet. Could be because she took a nasty spill off her mountain bike. I'm hoping that maybe watching the Las Vegas episoes opened her eyes to how people view her. Then again, I did hear she posed for Playboy. :rolleyes:


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