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A Victory for Sororities: Education Department Rules Sororities Are for Women Only
Interesting article - your thoughts?
A Victory for Sororities: Education Department Rules Sororities Are for Women Only https://www.dailysignal.com/2025/06/...Bs3gyAZOlgwkAA |
Should have never even been a thing or a debate/argument in the first place. Never should have even been on the books for discussion. Smh.
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Now come the hasty.changes to bylaws, regarding previous recent changes regarding membership/gender definitions and status, among NPC groups holding a Convention this summer.
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Brotherhood is a bond built on shared male identity, physically, emotionally, and developmentally. A biological female, no matter how she identifies, can’t embody that experience. Fraternities have meaning because of that structure. Diluting it in the name of inclusivity isn’t progress, it’s identity theft. That said, fraternities and sororities are built on complementary, not interchangeable, identities. Again, brotherhood is for men. Sisterhood is for women. If we erase that distinction, we lose what makes Greek life meaningful. Inclusion shouldn’t come at the cost of structure, truth, or tradition. |
Just as before, if there is a chapter who wants to admit a transgender woman, or a fraternity chapter that wants to admit a transgender man, they will find a way to do so.
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It’s definitely coming, no doubt. Chapters can vote however they want to, but if they abandon biological truth, they’re abandoning the very foundation of what these organizations stand for. My personal conviction? I will not extend brotherhood where manhood isn’t present. The grip and love are earned through shared identity not cultural revision.
Changing the language doesn’t change the truth. And I will not participate in something that strips away what our Founders clearly intended. She will get no grip, no bond, no acknowledgment from me. Period. |
And for you Kappa brothers lurking and not joining, I know you see my posts. Read what I posted here again if you have to. Those brothers who allow an abomination like this to happen, and those brothers who stay silent because of it, understand that silence in the face of lies is not neutrality, it’s agreement by omission. When truth is under attack, and people stay quiet out of fear or convenience, they’re not staying out of it, they’re helping it spread. In other words, you’re part of the problem. Silence doesn’t protect truth, it buries it.
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Big dude who was trying to get into KKG, that article had me crying LMAO!
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This issue has been really disturbing to me, not only on a sorority level, but the Daughters of the American Revolution are going through a similar problem. I just don't understand how a man joins the DAR instead of the Sons of the American Revolution, especially when birth certificates are involved. |
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My thoughts are that it's up to the private organizations to define these things, not the government. Are they going to require DNA tests before initiation? How would anybody know? How does it get verified? What about XXY folks?
Seriously, only a woman is every going to be interested in sorority life, legitimately. However, I believe a trans woman is a woman. |
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I’m not familiar with DAR. What is that? Quote:
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Arms are a perfect example. Men’s elbows hang differently, their shoulders sit wider, and their range of motion is more angular. Women have a softer rotation and a more curved skeletal balance. And that’s just arms. The hands and feet tell their own story too. Men typically have broader palms, thicker fingers, and squarer hand shapes. Women’s hands are more tapered, with narrower wrists and more delicate finger articulation. The same applies to feet. Men’s feet are generally wider and flatter with bulkier ankles, while women’s feet have higher arches, narrower structure, and finer bone definition. Pelvic tilt, clavicle width, limb ratio, gait, it’s all biologically coded. These are anatomical realities that you can’t surgically replicate or hormone away. You don’t need DNA tests, you need eyes and honesty. That’s all you need. Saying “how would we even know?” only works if we all agree to ignore everything we already do know about the human body. Biology isn’t a belief system, it’s a blueprint. You don’t identify into a skeleton. The body always tells the truth, even when people don’t. |
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Yeah, I'm into genealogy! |
Lane swerve.
I skipped sororities on purpose. I mean, I already had enough drama in AIM chats and dorm hallway gossip, but even I know a man in a dress doesn’t make him a woman. That’s not empowerment, it’s cosplay with hormones. And trust me, if I were in a sorority, I’d smile and say, “Congrats on your new pronouns, but no, you’re still not getting a bid.” You don’t rush your way into womanhood. Try again … oh wait, you can’t. Sorry. End lane swerve. |
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But I get it. You know through drawing this shit most of your life Lol. Interesting info though, PB. Quote:
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Phrozen, yes, I am a member of the DAR, First Families of Western Pennsylvania, and a couple other pedigree societies. I was raised on genealogy, and my mother was very involved in various groups. Every now and again, I go into a genealogical frenzy and make an attempt on The Mayflower Society. My DNA says that I'm a descendant, but I still need to document the lineage.
I really enjoy "Finding Your Roots," and "Who Do You Think You Are?" - it's the reallife mystery that fascinates me. |
I am also a member of the DAR on my Mother's side. Her family (German) settled in upstate NY near Albany. However, I have not been active for quite sometime now.
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It seems like a sorority but deeper and harder to become a member of. Am I wrong y’all?
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I forgot to leave my opinion on the matter. I won’t get into the details PB posted LOL! because I don’t know what he knows, but I’ll just say this: I cosign with honeychile, CG, and PB - you got people identifying as animals now. Therefore, if a grown man tells me he’s a cat, I’m not buying kibble or building dude a scratching post. Same with gender. Those who disagree with me, believe what you want, but if you ain’t got ovaries or you can’t produce sperm, biology already told the truth.
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I’ve never heard of First Families of Western PA. That’s cool! But I wouldn’t qualify lol we are relative newcomers on all sides of my family. Most from overseas, but my dad’s family is from the…other side…of the state. Don’t tell anyone lol
Completely off topic and sorry for the hijack…not much to add since my org hasn’t been exclusively female for many years (although I’ve never met a male member) |
Trans people already exist, and exist in our organizations, so good luck trying to sus them out. I'll have their backs every time.
Every time this topic pops up in my organization, I always ask - which part of initiation included the penis inspections? Which one of philanthropic endeavors required us to test our chromosomes? Surely, these things are happening in order for "the trans debate" to be a top concern of theirs. Shockingly, haven't received an answer. Imagine that. |
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Especially the bolded as long as they uphold the values of my org. |
I'm glad to hear of this ruling.
AEPhi welcomes transgender women. You're a trans woman - you're a woman, end of story. If you identify as male, go check out the fraternities. Interestingly enough, I was just reading up on the history of Mardi Gras / Carnival in New Orleans. A number of krewes are restricted by gender, while others are coed. Apparently, an effort was made back in 1991 to overturn the gender restriction. It fell flat, because tradition. |
I read the comments on here and I agree and disagree. For me, as a public school teacher, my priority is fostering a safe, respectful environment for every student. If a student requests a preferred name or pronoun, I honor that to uphold our district’s nondiscrimination policy. At the same time, my role is to teach academic standards and facilitate healthy development which means I don’t engage in medical or identity counseling. I strive to be consistent and transparent. I treat every student with dignity while maintaining the factual integrity of the curriculum. In doing so, we balance compassion with clarity, ensuring no child feels marginalized or misled.
All I’m saying is that kids are still developing, and it’s not my place to push identity, it’s my job to teach, listen, and guide. I don’t debate biology, and at the same time, I don’t shame anyone either. I just try to be honest and consistent while giving kids room to grow without confusion or pressure. |
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The issue I had with the KKG case was nationals should NEVER force a chapter to either take or not take a pnm.
Too many people are willing to simplify biology to fit their ideologies, ignoring the complex nature of sex and gender. I trust my sisters, and I fully embrace any transwoman who comes into our sisterhood. Unlike most negative commenters, I know and love transpeople and have no interest in becoming the genitalia police. Masculine-looking ciswomen have been assaulted by the genitalia police; maybe people should worry less about other people who are just trying to use the bathroom. |
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What defines your sex? Genitalia? Hormones? Chromosomes? Guess what - there are myriad ways those can present, meaning that the idea that there are 2 sexes, easily determined and immutable, is biologically wrong. https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...y-simplistic1/ This breaks down the issues nicely - https://www.boredpanda.com/biologica...witter-thread/ Stating that people are "identifying as animals" is fallacious and insulting. I know the pain and heartache my trans friends and family have gone through. They don't deserve the contempt and insults of transphobes and TERFs. Let people decide for themselves how to live their lives, especially if it doesn't affect yours. Trust chapters to decide for themselves which women of whatever ilk they wish to extend a bid to, and take all that energy and put it towards something positive. ETA - I'm not interested in any ignorant/bigoted replies; I've heard them all before, and they tend to want to ignore the scientific/medical complications inherent in discussing sex and gender. The similarity between them and the discussions NPC sororities had about admitting women of color is striking. I said my piece and won't be following or replying. |
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First, let’s talk about this “cis” label. It was coined to make a normal, biologically rooted woman sound like a variation of her own category. It didn’t come from real biological need, it came from a social ideology that says womanhood is just a feeling. Biology says otherwise. Second, you linked articles that throw out edge cases, yes, a tiny percentage of people are born intersex. But that doesn’t erase the reality that over 99% of humans are clearly male or female based on chromosomes. Exceptions don’t rewrite the rule, they prove it. And using disorders of sexual development to justify the erasure of sex categories is a stretch, not science. And comparing this to people being denied bids because of race is a false equivalence. Skin color never changes your sex. You can’t hormone-shot your way into different chromosomes. Race and sex aren’t interchangeable puzzle pieces. Comparing this to race is a rhetorical cheap shot because it hijacks real, historic injustice to protect a completely different ideology. It’s literally just a shade. It was contrived by human made hierarchies, not biology itself. But male and female? That’s baked into your DNA. You can’t surgically “pass” your chromosomes. So race and sex are not twins, they’re not even cousins. People love that comparison because it feels righteous, but it’s just emotional blackmail. If your ideology can’t stand on facts without borrowing race trauma for pity points, it’s not truth, it’s marketing. Also, about the “identifying as animals” thingie, that wasn’t an insult. It’s reality. There are people who now claim to be animals, or furries. I work in vet med, and I see this trend up close. When you blur lines endlessly, you can’t be shocked when the confusion spreads. I didn’t create that, I just refuse to pretend it’s normal. Nobody wants to feel insulted. But when you demand that everyone else agree reality is negotiable, don’t be shocked when people who love truth don’t comply. I’m not here to be hateful, I’m just not here to lie. So sure, let people live as they choose. But freedom to choose your lifestyle does not mean you get to rewrite biological facts for everyone else, or force them to pretend biology is flexible when it isn’t. |
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CG, I forgot to ask you what you mean by “marketing”. What’s that got to do with anything?
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