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Dionysus 10-14-2002 02:06 PM

Halloween: Satanic holiday?
 
Or not?

sororitygirl2 10-14-2002 02:13 PM

Originally, perhaps.

But now it's just a good excuse to act out fantasies and drink!

ENJOY!

librasoul22 10-14-2002 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sororitygirl2
Originally, perhaps.

But now it's just a good excuse to act out fantasies and drink!

ENJOY!

LOL! That's the spirit!

:D

ZTAMiami 10-14-2002 02:36 PM

Is anything that is not "Christian" satanic? :rolleyes:

Here is a little bit of history:
http://www.historychannel.com/cgi-bi...hallowmas.html

PenguinTrax 10-14-2002 02:42 PM

Actually, it is a Pagan/Wiccan holiday, which is in no way satanic.

AGDLynn 10-14-2002 03:11 PM

Of course not!! It's my and my niece's bday!!;)

I know that I can be a witch sometimes, but that's not because of my birthday, lol!

dzrose93 10-14-2002 03:14 PM

Just to clarify...
 
There's a vast difference between something that is "satanic" and something that is "pagan." Halloween is NOT a satanic holiday.

Dionysus 10-14-2002 03:15 PM

I thought wicca and paganism originated from satanicism.

dzrose93 10-14-2002 03:22 PM

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Originally posted by Dionysus
I thought wicca and paganism originated from satanicism.
Nope. Actually far from it. The devil doesn't even exist in the Wiccan religion. It's hard to worship something that you don't even believe exists. ;)

Seriously, though... Dionysus, you certainly aren't the only one to be confused by this. Many Christians lump Satan worshippers, Wicca practitioners, and pagans into the same category. They are all very different, though, and I think you'll find that most Wiccans and pagans are upset by the negative stereotype. Kind of like how we Greeks are upset by the Animal House stereotype. :)

dzrose93 10-14-2002 03:28 PM

some info...
 
Here's a thread from last year that gives some info about Halloween. The first post offers the stereotypical viewpoint of certain "Christians," but there are several responses which clarify some misconceptions about Halloween, witchcraft, Wicca, and paganism.

http://130.94.21.174/gcforums/showth...ight=Halloween

ZTAMiami 10-14-2002 04:27 PM

My 5 year old nephew goes to a Baptist school and is not allowed to dress up or celebrate Halloween in school. I think thats a real shame. I went to Catholic school for 13 years and we always celebrated Halloween. Nov 1st is a Holy day of obligation called All Saints Day (which means you must attend mass that day) so Halloween was just a precedent to that.
I think sometimes people take things way out of context!:rolleyes:
But thats just MY opinion.

Kevin 10-14-2002 04:40 PM

Too many churches are taking any holiday that doesn't glorify religion to be evil... and if it's evil it must be satanic. Is that the correct train of thought?

Optimist Prime 10-14-2002 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
Too many churches are taking any holiday that doesn't glorify religion to be evil... and if it's evil it must be satanic. Is that the correct train of thought?
Its what they think but it is not correct.

Peaches-n-Cream 10-14-2002 05:28 PM

Halloween is not Satanic. It is Celtic and Druid. Check out ZTAMiami's website link.

Rio_Kohitsuji 10-14-2002 05:39 PM

Wait..wasn't Halloween originally called 'All Saints Day'? Because for some reason, I'm thinking Halloween started out as a Christian holiday. But I could be wrong, anyone have any info about that?

dzrose93 10-14-2002 05:55 PM

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Originally posted by TKE209Sweethrt
Wait..wasn't Halloween originally called 'All Saints Day'? Because for some reason, I'm thinking Halloween started out as a Christian holiday. But I could be wrong, anyone have any info about that?
Nope, Halloween has been around much longer than Christianity has. Check out the link I posted earlier to find out a bit more. :)

Optimist Prime 10-14-2002 06:09 PM

That question was very offensive.

Dionysus 10-14-2002 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Optimist Prime
That question was very offensive.
Please tell my how questioning a holiday's roots is offensive?

Dionysus 10-14-2002 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by ariesrising
Halloween is only a satanic holiday if you are too dumb to actually look up the REAL meaning of it.
You all please do not take my question out of context, I never said I agreed or disagreed, I am neutral on this issue.

AchtungBaby80 10-14-2002 08:59 PM

Thanks, dzrose, for your informative posts--a lot of people think Halloween is Satanic, but it's totally not! Big misconception...

suzymoonspider 10-14-2002 09:31 PM

Wow...I think some of you are over-reacting. Dionysius was asking a question...why do you find that offensive. You can't be informed until you ask and someone informs you...but if you all take offense you may be giving a bad impression.

Everything at witchvox.com is informative about Wicca and other pagan religions. Halloween IS a pagan and satanic holiday but BOTH are completely different. Satanic people believe/worship the devil and DO celebrate halloween as their "special" night....but they did not create it....so therefore the holiday is not satanic...but satanic people incorportated it. (For example, I knew several Jewish families that celebrate Christmas as a family holiday not a religious...but it is not a Jewish holiday)

Get it?

Optimist Prime 10-14-2002 10:25 PM

Dionysus you are too dumb to respond to.

Kevin 10-15-2002 09:16 AM

Halloween is as "satanic" as Christmas.

Just about all of our Christmas traditions here in the US (and I'd guess Canada also) are based on Pagan traditions... Druids started Christmas trees.. The current location of the holiday was supposed to take the place of what I think was a Druid holiday (could be wrong). That was something the early church did. It spread religion by adapting Christianity into whatever religion currently existed. Hence we have all of these different church traditions in different areas.

AchtungBaby80 10-15-2002 09:46 AM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
The current location of the holiday was supposed to take the place of what I think was a Druid holiday (could be wrong). That was something the early church did. It spread religion by adapting Christianity into whatever religion currently existed. Hence we have all of these different church traditions in different areas.
That's what I've read, too...Christmas isn't *really* Jesus' birthday. He was probably born sometime in the spring, but we celebrate the holiday in December because the Church needed its own holiday to compete with the existing "heathen" one.

carnation 10-15-2002 10:22 AM

I think that it's possible to make Halloween a scary, Satanic holiday or make it harmless and fun--depending on how you set it up.

At our house, Halloween is a fun, pumpkin-and-candy corn/trick or treat kind of holiday. We don't let any of the kids dress in horrible costumes or watch horror movies and it works fine for us. Even ASLFRose is okay with it and she's the most conservative of all of us!


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