Tragedy at University of Idaho
 

4 students killed at off campus housing at the University of Idaho. University of Idaho students Ethan Chapin, 20; Madison Mogen, 21; Xana Kernodle, 20; and Kaylee Goncalves, 21.

Two of the girls were Pi Beta Phi members. The other young woman was an Alpha Phi. The young man was a member of Sigma Chi.

https://www.aol.com/no-clear-answers...031615424.html

Oh no! Can you imagine the horror and grief in those houses? And with two Holidays coming up and final exams often after Thanksgiving…I’m so sad for their fellow Greeks let alone their parents and loved ones. May they all be surrounded by love and compassion.

From all I’ve read they keep saying a “crime of passion”. What does that even mean? It is not a murder/suicide apparently.

The young man was a triplet - they interviewed his brother in one article I read. This is unbelievably sad and shocking. Neither the police nor the coroner would really comment on possible motives.

My sincere condolences to the families, friends, and the sororities & fraternity represented. I can't even imagine the horrors of the whole campus.

Two other roommates were home, but unharmed:

https://www.today.com/news/idaho-mur...ible-rcna57649

This just keeps getting more weird by the day. Now the police are saying it was “targeted” —but they have no leads nor suspects and the whole Moscow community needs to remain extremely vigilant. And two roommates were THERE?? Good Lord.

If I had a student there, they would have been HOME the next morning and NOT be returning until there is more stability. NOBODY is safe on that campus or in that town—PERIOD. Too many vague replies and unanswered questions….

Agreed. It is a very strange story.

I understand they might not want to release every detail if they’re working on the case…but people need to know if they’re safe or not. And if they’re not…which it sounds like…take measures to protect them.

Cause of death released.

Many links are available; I chose the local news as it appears the least speculative and sensational report. Stabbing is generally described as a very personal method of homicide.

Cannot fathom the horror and the grief.

The story got even more strange today... there were 2 additional roommates that were unharmed, though home * during * the murders. Apparently they heard nothing, as their 4 room mates were all stabbed in their beds multiple times??? Nothing done to stop the attack, run away or call for help? How could they possibly be in the home and hear nothing? I just pray that the police know a LOT more than they are releasing publicly.

I seriously might sleep through someone being murdered in the next room. I sleep like a rock.

Some articles say that the victims were out at bars and parties until very late, with one of the victims making phone calls until nearly 3am. Perhaps the other roommates were intoxicated and out of it.

However, FOUR people are murdered and there are TWO roommates who heard and knew nothing? Still seems hard to believe.

Also, what are the details on the call to police? From what I've read, there was a call - don't know from whom - that said there was someone unconscious. Not murdered, just unconscious. Who made the call? Was it a roommate? And why didn't that call come until noon?

There was reportedly no forced entry, but from everything I've read, the roommates aren't suspects.

My instincts tell me the police know SOMETHING, but they're keeping it quiet so as not to spook the suspect(s).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...mJ8IkYiVIKCc0E

This article was released by the Washington Post this morning. Not sure if anyone can read it without a subscription, but some highlights:

All this is as confusing as the information that the Boulder Police put out when Jon-Benet Ramsey was killed.

Late at night, after (possibly) a night out? The roommates might have been in the same room (I don't know this) and the killer did not enter their room.

If you know anything about Ted Bundy, he entered the Chi Omega sorority house and used a club to attack at least three of the young women. No one in the house heard any of the attacks.

Very true. I just went back and revisited pictures of the house where this murder happened, and there are seemingly three stories. With as many bedrooms as you'd need for at least five people, there's a good chance that they're on different floors, making it possible that there was a decent distance between rooms.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/11/17/u...ine/index.html

A timeline of the killings, including the following info about the house:

Here's a good rendering of the house.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDpBZGhEQBI

This guy does great crime scene videos.

One of the newsfeeds stated that he was also charged with felony burglary. I hope he took something that will definitely tie him to the crimes.

As far as I can tell, the combination of crimes that Mr. Kohberger has been charged with would make the Death Penalty a possibility. (Idaho not only has the Death Penalty, it has 7 men and 1 woman on death row)

It’ll be interesting to see how this all plays out without a murder weapon. Plus, sources have been saying he’s confident that he’ll be “exonerated”.

The nightly news on NBC this evening said that his DNA is on the sheath of the knife. He was asked during arraignment if he realized he could be sentenced to death and he said yes. He changed his license plate 5 days after the killings. There is nothing here that sounds like he's going to be exonerated.

Yeah, he’s done. Stick a fork in him. They tracked him back at the house around 9am the same morning before the police were called. Dude did an aftermath drive by. That dude looks 100% completely OFF.

Now authorities are saying he had been hanging around there since August?…. like 12 times since August. It’s like he was stalking someone.

Oh I know! Especially in the police cam video when he was pulled over with his dad. His eyes.. totally creepy.

I could be wrong but it sounds to me like he knew someone living there, and that person knew him. He looked right at one of the residents there, and didn’t do anything to that person. He just walked out the sliding glass door.

I'm trying to figure out WHY he went back at 9am. Did he go inside, or peek through the windows. This is just SO creepy!

I hear you. That in itself is beyond weird and sick. I think he was so obsessed with these serial killers he interviewed for school, that he thought maybe he could murder and get away with it, unlike the people he interviewed. Sounds like it was some kind of game to him or something.

My burning question is why didn't the surviving roommate call 911 after seeing the intruder?

With that many people living there, I would assume strange things were normal.

I was just watching this..

https://youtu.be/BEjbYfK6C1U

An analyst I watch on Tik Tok (psychology/sociology professor in the pacific NW by chance) said that the house was a known party house so having a lot of people in the house was not unusual.

Honestly, this is the kind of thing that leads to male visitation on upper floors of sorority houses being banned. When you have dozens of women who could have brought someone home, it's impossible to know who should be there and who shouldn't. If nobody is allowed to be on those floors, then you know when someone is, there's a problem.

They’ve got his computer now. IMO, that alone will get him convicted once what’s in it is revealed.

So many of these guys have that glazed expression in all their pictures. I just saw one of the psycho who shot up the subway car in NY in which he knew no one. Same for the one in Uvalde.

One of the theories I've heard is that he may have gone back to the house at 9am once he realized that he had dropped the knife sheath. He may have panicked and hoped that it was outside on the ground by where he parked his car. Or....he might have been crazy enough to think he could sneak back inside and go get it. I bet he was shocked that the police were at the house yet.

FYI - yeah he definitely looks off!!! Someone on another website I frequent posted a comparison of his picture and a picture of Ted Bundy.

Idaho killer...
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/v1...d5ad57a64a9c1c

Ted Bundy...
https://www.crimemuseum.org/wp-conte...ot-216x300.jpg

A University of Idaho Delta Gamma alumna has raised enough funds to purchase personal alarms for all of the campus sorority members.


https://www.kivitv.com/news/delta-ga...bers-at-u-of-i

I'm not following this as closely as many, but it does seems as if the nutjob had targeted Kaylee Goncalves. There's just something fishy about a college student being able to buy a Range Rover, among other things. Buying the RR, then planning take off to backpack across Europe in January just doesn't seem to make sense to me.

I've been following the case and the Range Rover was a 2015 (so almost 10 years old) and she had apparently been saving a very long time for it. She was to graduate that December and had a job lined up in Texas early this year. Never heard anything about backpacking in Europe. She seemed to have finished classes early (or she was doing them online) and didn't live in the house and only came to visit to show her BFF her new car.

I keep seeing articles that Maddie may have been the target, but Kaylee's family are more in the media. I get that grief is weird, but they need to chill and make sure the trial is fair and to the T. Wouldn't want him getting off on a technicality.