Should the US annex Canada?
 

Interesting question, Canadians and Americans are very similar but I don't see any point.

Apperently 4 out of 10 Americans think the US should annex Canada this is according to a Canadian survey... lol

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...///?hub=Canada

I'll bet you'd get a higher percentage of yes's from Canadians if they got to get rid of Quebec as part of the deal:D

lol
 

That's funny. Actually I don't think Canada would want to deal with the US. They have a more progressive government, don't they???
-M

much more so progressive.

A Canadian chimes in....
 

Hmmmm...

I have often said to amycat that I am an American trapped in a Canadian's body. I love lots of things about the U.S. (good shopping), but the crime and guns thing, I can do without.
Although I love visiting the USA, I still always have a feeling like the USA is so much more of a violent society than Canada, know what I mean?

On a good note, there are a lot more interesting cities in USA than Canada.
IMO, the Canadian cities worth visiting are Victoria, Vancouver, Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal. That's about it.
Whereas, in USA, there is so much more to choose from: Seattle, Los Angeles, Hawaiian islands, Austin, Dallas, Miami, Chicago, New Orleans, NYC, Boston, Las Vegas, Phoenix, etc. etc. etc.
Sorry if I forgot or left off your favorite city - not my intention to offend anyone.

I will definitely say that I wish that Canada had a "sexier" image...it bothers me that Canadians have this reputation of being a nation of "hewers of wood and drawers of water",
not to mention that whole reputation of being a nation of hockey fighting, beer swilling boors; that annoys me immensely. The USA definitely has a "sexier' image associated with it...it is the whole Elvis/Coca-Cola/Baseball/Big Cars/Blue Jeans image.

I don't really have a point to make... this is more a stream of consciousness.

That is funny that you think we have an "impression" of Canada. I guarantee that if you ask anyone south of Kentucky they would not be able to tell you one thing about your whole country other than the flag is red and white with a maple leaf and cigarettes are really expensive there. I really have no idea about Canada. You should start an informational thread about your country.

Here is a fabulous website to start:

An American's Guide to Canada
It's written by an American who has been living in Canada since 1992.

OOOOOoooo thank you very much sister cutie. At first glance this seems to be an excellent source for info!

Trust me, hon, the image of Americans can be quite unpleasant. In Europe (especially the Latin and Mediterranean countries), the women are thought of as being easy. This comes 100% from Hollywood and results in a lot of undesired attention from sketchy men.

Re: lol
 

Thats probably correct.

Some people don't like "Progressive" governments... They call us "conservative". I'd be willing to bet you could find a few of those in Canada:eek:

Can someone explain to me what progressive means?
If it's greater state involvement, then yes...however if you're referring to a political left-right spectrum with Canada being further to the right on average than the U.S. - you are wrong, it's the complete opposite.

Just a second point I’d like to make....Canadians themselves are much more different than Americans, we tend to be more critical about things in general but more so in a sarcastic matter...there's an old saying that goes: Canadians whine, Americans bellow. It is this relaxed, humbled civility (on average) that impacts policymaking.

*Side anecdote* yesterday Queen Elizabeth was engaged at noon for a ceremony commemorating WW2 vets. One of whom was a man named Smokey Smith, the last remaining Victoria Cross recipient. He received this honor during the war for taking-out 10 Italians and turning away 2 tanks all by himself and just as a private. Well, when Smokey was in the presence of the King and Queen during this ceremony he became rather tired and stated something to the effect of 'enough of this garbage, do you have anything to drink?'...the king's reply, 'of course' and they drank scotch and chatted for hours like two old friends.

Is anyone really taking this seriously?

Our countries share a common border and a lot of other things, but we are separate societies with a separate heritage.

Both have good and bad points.

How arrogant to think that the U.S. could (or would) ever consider "annexing" our good neighbor. And, what would be the point, anyway?

I would hope to never see such a thing happen in my lifetime. Despite popular belief Canada and the US are 2 very different countries with 2 very different cultures, political systems, etc. If ever such a thing were to happen, I would have to move to Europe. But the situation does make for some funny material, ie. Canadian Bacon ;).

I am sure I will see Quebec become its own country one day. It came pretty close last time they had a vote on it.

Annex? I thought Canada was the 51st state!?!

:D

No, where Bud has Bud Light, Coors has Coors Light, we have Canada.

A Canadian comic I once saw said... "The US to Canada is like having a big brother who's got a bigger penis than you do".

We need Canada as a separate country! Where could the Americans have hid out when the hostages were being held? We need another country to have a World Series..okay, even if Montreal and Toronto aren't in it, lol.

We might not be all U.S., but hey, we're North Americans (which includes Mexico and...)!

Progessive means more to the left.

Hmm... Now that I think about it, we've tried this before.

It was called the War of 1812.

We lost.

Big.

This reminds me of the skit from Second City TV with BOB & DOUG MacKENZIE from the Great White North. Coo-oo-co-co Coo-oo-co-co. G'day!

I would have to agree with bcdphie on this one. If Canada ever became the 51st state I would have to move to Europe. I don't see us as the same at all, and they say if you want to know the difference between an American and a Canadian...ask a Canadian...Eh!


Emily

It's really not worth talking about, since the U.S. no longer goes around "annexing" much of anything.

There's no "annexation" process in the Constitution. The U.S. does have a few nonstate territories that remain from colonial periods (consider Puerto Rico and Guam, for example) and U.S.-sovereign military bases elsewhere (think Guantanamo Bay). However, for Canadian provinces to obtain statehood, (1) they'd have to want it and ask for it, and (2) the then-existing U.S. Congress would have to approve. U.S. Const. art. IV sect. 3.

I can't even begin seriously to imagine that happening in my lifetime.

No, don't go to Europe, go to Australia!
The weather is awesome and so are the people (especially the men....and that Aussie accent, too...mmmmm)

I've heard that they're hot looking but somewhat sexist and boorish? :confused:

A guy I dated in college was Canadian. Really, really cute and sweet. I loved his bit of an accent; the way he would say "aboot" instead of "about". I thought it was really exotic; seriously!!! I love accents; guess that's why I married a guy from New Jersey.

Canadien beer is way better. I get your analogy but using beer as a comparison is not a good idea.

Sure we should annex Canada... while we're at it, let's take over Mexico and all of South America too!

hehehe

I really dont mean that, I'm just being silly ;)

CC1CG-

Like Optimist said, progressive is being more liberal. The term comes from the progressive movement in the early part of the 19th century (strange, it wasn't all that progressive, but it took a few good steps).

And that wasn't meant to offend conservatives like you ktsnake, I just don't think anyone would be pleased to enter a society where the political values wer much sifferent from the ones they were used to. I'd be pissed to have to buy health insurance if I moved to the US from Canada (especially since people on work visas pay huge taxes).

Anyway, I think the realtionship between the two countries is very interesting. Considering we share an almost indistiguishable popular culture, I find the differences quite fun.

:-)
-M

I love Canada!!! Thanks for Elisha Cuthbert.

NO! Then everyone would think we were taking over the world!

No disrespect to the Canadians...but if I were you I wouldn't want to be annexed by the US either.

Canada?

Um, well, while it gave me my psycho ex from hell, it also gave me an awesome friend in CutiePie2000!!!! So I forgive, and better yet, embrace Canada! My 12 step canadian recovery program is complete!! (yes, tongue planted firmly in cheek w that last statement).

Oh, and we can't annex Canada cause then my ex would be here legally, and really he should be deported to a nasty place, canada is too good for the likes of him!

LOL amycat! :D

You're welcome!

KillarneyRose,
(a) I do know that Aussie men do have bad reputations, but the guys that I found were fine, but then again, I was in Melbourne, which is a pretty big city (it's up there with Sydney)...the Aussie men were probably as "progressive minded" about women as American guys and Canadian guys are. That being said, you will find all ranges of the spectrum. Also, I think that in Australia, if you go off to a sheep station in the Outback, like Alice Springs or something, then yes, you will likely encounter the worst of the worst when it come to boorish, sexist Aussie men.

(b) The "oot and aboot thing"...I think that people from Atlantic Canada say that, rather than people who are Quebec and West, i.e. Ontario, BC, etc. This is because Atlantic Canada is the most "English/British" part of Canada (people are supremely loyal to England in that part of Canada, and they don't forget their Anglo-Saxon roots), and they have a bit of a Scottish'y brogue in their accent. Hence the "oot and aboot" for "out and about".

I think you might have misread his post my friend - Nick wasn't implying that Progressivism was on the "right" of the political spectrum, not at all.

What he said was, if you view a "progressive" gov't (note the lower-case "P") as one with more political involvement, then you'd be correct in that assumption (also note that, in terms of colloquial usage of lower-case "progressive" as "making progress", this is still up for debate). He then went to point out that, as it pertains to Canadian government, this would be on the (traditionally) 'left' portion of the scale - as opposed to the Canadian political party, the Progressive Conservative Party, whose views would tend to be more to the right end of the scale (if my grasp of Canadian politics is up-to-date - Canadians please correct). Make sense? CC1GC is a fairly bright dude when he's off the sauce, I think this is what he was referencing.

PS - check a cite here: PC Party

Even if the US wanted to annex Canada, I'm sure it could be forcibly done.

Just look at what they did to our Queen here in 1893. :mad:

Sorry, just a rant coming from a Hawaiian.

That's all. Back to your regularly scheduled intellectual discussion. :D

Billy, Michelle & Company, thanks for clarifying what progressive meant, some of these political buzz words have more than one meanings. The idea has potential, but I can't see one day a single country of 'CanaAmerica', considering both parties can't find mutual ground on many subjects of trade/border relations (e.g. lumber).

At work last night, some of my co-workers and I were talking about this and a few mentioned they would prefer Canada to join Europe - his reasoning, being, mutual disdain for American policymaking. I don't know if i agree with this because in a way Europe is like a Canada/America...each is sort of a collaboration of different regions that mantain it's own views and culture. Sort of like a game of tug and war....it would be interesting tho, Can you imagine - Quebecers and Texans being one nationality...crazy.

I'm against annexing, we already have enough people to take care of. :rolleyes:

Did anyone hear that Canada now allows some forms of child porn? Sick!

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWSLaw0210/porn_oct15-cp.html