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thetalady 09-26-2020 10:45 AM

Amy Coney Barrett
 
Looks like Amy Coney Barrett will be tapped to serve on SCOTUS today. She got her undergrad degree from Rhodes College in Memphis. She is a member of Kappa Delta.

https://news.rhodes.edu/stories/rhod...-supreme-court

Sen's Revenge 09-26-2020 11:08 AM

Congrats to KD. If she is confirmed, she'd be the second NPC woman on the supreme court. (I think?)

AZTheta 09-26-2020 01:39 PM

The Handmaid's Tale - here we come. Just sickening, the way Trump and his ilk behave. SHUDDER.

With any sort of luck at all this will not happen. It ain't over til the fat lady sings.

Could he find anyone worse than Kavanaugh? Yes, he did.

PGD-GRAD 09-26-2020 07:33 PM

⬆️ What AZTheta said.....

Kevin 09-27-2020 01:29 AM

Yeah, abortion rights are pretty much over in conservative states. To make matters more interesting, Oklahoma's Court of Criminal Appeals just overturned a district judge who had dismissed charges against a woman who gave birth to a child who died and was meth positive. Lots of folks are going to prison.

ASTalumna06 09-27-2020 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2479816)
Yeah, abortion rights are pretty much over in conservative states. To make matters more interesting, Oklahoma's Court of Criminal Appeals just overturned a district judge who had dismissed charges against a woman who gave birth to a child who died and was meth positive. Lots of folks are going to prison.

I'll just leave this here.

https://www.cfr.org/article/abortion...al-comparisons

Benzgirl 09-27-2020 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2479816)
Yeah, abortion rights are pretty much over in conservative states. To make matters more interesting, Oklahoma's Court of Criminal Appeals just overturned a district judge who had dismissed charges against a woman who gave birth to a child who died and was meth positive. Lots of folks are going to prison.

Not to mention health care for over 20 million people due to pre-existing conditions.

Cheerio 09-27-2020 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by thetalady (Post 2479800)
Looks like Any Barrett Coney will be tapped to serve on SCOTUS today. She got her undergrad degree from Rhodes College in Memphis. She is a member of Kappa Delta.

https://news.rhodes.edu/stories/rhod...-supreme-court

I sent you a PM...

AGDee 09-27-2020 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 2479822)
Not to mention health care for over 20 million people due to pre-existing conditions.

Or because they are under 26 and no longer a full time student. My son finished his master's degree in April and has some contract jobs and started his own LLC, which was fine when he was on my health insurance. If he gets kicked off in the middle of a pandemic, things will not be good.

AND, pregnancy is a pre-existing condition!

AnchorAlum 09-27-2020 03:46 PM

She wasn't my first choice; I preferred Justice Barbara Lagoa, but I'm taking a wait and see approach.
I'm a Catholic school kid but I would not be a part of the group of Christians of all denominations that she is a member of. Then again, I'm in no way a "staunch" Catholic.

Kevin 09-27-2020 05:21 PM

Something a lot of folks don't understand about Catholicism is that beliefs within the whole of Catholicism are as diverse as they are within Protestantism. Maybe we'll all be lucky and find that since clerking for Scalia, Coney aspired to the Supreme Court and created a persona, almost cartoonish in its right wing extremism to the point that one would reasonably expect that she would be viewed by political types as safely dogmatic and appointable.

It isn't unheard of for those with more extremist bents to moderate their views once on the bench. David Souter was a good example of that as, I think Roberts is turning out to be. So there's hope?

AnchorAlum 09-27-2020 05:50 PM

She's already angered some conservative hard liners over a vote about an Illinois voting issue.

Cheerio 09-27-2020 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2479831)
Something a lot of folks don't understand about Catholicism is that beliefs within the whole of Catholicism are as diverse as they are within Protestantism. Maybe we'll all be lucky and find that since clerking for Scalia, Coney aspired to the Supreme Court and created a persona, almost cartoonish in its right wing extremism to the point that one would reasonably expect that she would be viewed by political types as safely dogmatic and appointable.

It isn't unheard of for those with more extremist bents to moderate their views once on the bench. David Souter was a good example of that as, I think Roberts is turning out to be. So there's hope?

Agree with you about Chief Justice Roberts. Amy Coney Barrett may not immediatly meet the hope we have, but she's so young she will grow in her nationally-important job a lot better than Donald Trump grew into his.

APhi2KD 09-27-2020 09:40 PM

Should the committee interview her or her husband?

TXDG 09-27-2020 11:26 PM

And many Rhodes alumni - including her roommate and many sorority sisters who know her well - are speaking out against her nomination.


“There are people who are literally friends, sorority sisters, close friends and even a roommate,” Marus said.

The letter says the undersigned don’t think Barrett’s past comments about subjects like the Affordable Care Act, abortion and immigration meet the school’s principles of “truth, loyalty and service.”




https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox...outputType=amp

Titchou 09-28-2020 08:25 AM

I have a friend who is a KD alum from Rhodes who.is appalled at her nomination.

Sen's Revenge 09-28-2020 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sen's Revenge (Post 2479801)
Congrats to KD. If she is confirmed, she'd be the second NPC woman on the supreme court. (I think?)

Welp, I misread the room. LOL

33girl 09-28-2020 10:00 AM

Does anyone know if she was this kind of Xtreme Catholic when she was still in school, or did it only come about after her marriage?

carnation 09-28-2020 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TXDG (Post 2479847)
And many Rhodes alumni - including her roommate and many sorority sisters who know her well - are speaking out against her nomination.


“There are people who are literally friends, sorority sisters, close friends and even a roommate,” Marus said.

The letter says the undersigned don’t think Barrett’s past comments about subjects like the Affordable Care Act, abortion and immigration meet the school’s principles of “truth, loyalty and service.”

Whether you felt that she conforms to her sorority's values would definitely depend on not only your political leanings but also your definition of those values. I know a bunch of KDs who are 100% behind her nomination.

TXDG 09-28-2020 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by carnation (Post 2479858)
Whether you felt that she conforms to her sorority's values would definitely depend on not only your political leanings but also your definition of those values. I know a bunch of KDs who are 100% behind her nomination.

I thought it was more telling that many of her own FRIENDS from college don’t think that she meets the Rhodes College values of “truth, loyalty and service.” I have a lot of friends who were her contemporaries at Rhodes in the 1990’s and they are appalled at her nomination.

I’m sure many KD’s support ABC especially with KD being so strong in the Deep South. But the Rhodes KD alumni largely do not support her nomination. And they are the ones who’ve known her for 25 years...

33girl 09-28-2020 11:13 AM

Then why didn’t they terminate her ass if she was so awful? It makes them look just as bad as her.

ChioLu 09-28-2020 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sen's Revenge (Post 2479853)
Welp, I misread the room. LOL

Wish we had a Like button! :D

Shellfish 09-28-2020 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2479862)
Then why didn’t they terminate her ass if she was so awful? It makes them look just as bad as her.

A person's political views wouldn't be grounds for expulsion.

carnation 09-28-2020 01:45 PM

I never heard of her before but it sounds like she had a stellar record at Rhodes.

Quoting that article in the first post: "“It is an honor for a graduate of Rhodes to be considered as a possible nominee for the nation’s highest court,” says President Marjorie Hass. “Judge Barrett excelled as an English major on campus, just as she has in her professional and academic law career.”

Barrett, originally from Metairie, LA, graduated from Rhodes magna cum laude with a B.A. in English. As a student, she was inducted into Phi Beta Kappa, Omicron Delta Kappa, Mortar Board, and Sigma Tau Delta English Honor Society. She was a member of Kappa Delta Sorority, participated in Model United Nations, and was elected to serve on the Honor Council. Barrett was also chosen to be inducted into the Rhodes Student Hall of Fame.

After graduating from Rhodes, Barrett attended law school at the University of Notre Dame, where she graduated first in her class in 1997."

***One thing about the Supreme Court, though: political parties have been hugely surprised through the years about how certain justices have voted on certain issues. You can never know for sure.***

Cheerio 09-28-2020 03:47 PM

At which law schools did the other eight justices study?

[Google is not cooperating w/me today]

ForrestGrump 09-28-2020 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheerio (Post 2479871)
At which law schools did the other eight justices study?

[Google is not cooperating w/me today]

Four at Harvard (Roberts, Kagan, Gorsuch and Breyer) and four at Yale (Alito, Kavanaugh, Sotomayor and Thomas)

Cheerio 09-28-2020 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheerio (Post 2479871)
At which law schools did the other eight justices study?

[Google is not cooperating w/me today]

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Originally Posted by ForrestGrump (Post 2479873)
Four at Harvard (Roberts, Kagan, Gorsuch and Breyer) and four at Yale (Alito, Kavanaugh, Sotomayor and Thomas)

So then, is one of President Trump's reasons for choosing the ND Law Grad he didn't want to break that 4 from Yale/4 from Harvard tie?

thetalady 09-28-2020 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheerio (Post 2479874)
So then, is one of President Trump's reasons for choosing the ND Law Grad he didn't want to break that 4 from Yale/4 from Harvard tie?


:D:D:D:D:D:D hilarious!

33girl 09-28-2020 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Shellfish (Post 2479865)
A person's political views wouldn't be grounds for expulsion.

That’s not what they are saying - they are saying she doesn’t meet the Rhodes values of “truth, loyalty and service.” Being untruthful, disloyal and shirking your obligation to serve seem like things that would pave the way for termination from your GLO.

Alumnae who knew her personally saying “Amy is my chapter sister and we lived in the house together for two years but she’s terrible” just makes them sound shallow or backstabby. It’s one thing for that to come from a classmate, it’s another to come from a sorority sister.

AnchorAlum 09-28-2020 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2479862)
Then why didn’t they terminate her ass if she was so awful? It makes them look just as bad as her.

I agree with you. And they're her "friends"? I have some sisters I've seen on FB whose views I don't espouse at all, but I wouldn't speak ill of them.

Iota_JWH 09-28-2020 11:13 PM

Rhodes has a very lovely campus and the sororities have little chapter "houses" that actually do not house anyone. (I think the term is Lodge.)

I find it interesting that another extremely conservative female Republican, Sen. Kelly Loeffler of North Carolina is also a KD.

GoldBows 09-29-2020 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AnchorAlum (Post 2479890)
I agree with you. And they're her "friends"? I have some sisters I've seen on FB whose views I don't espouse at all, but I wouldn't speak ill of them.

If any of my sorority sisters were to be nominated to the Supreme Court and I felt that she didn't live and breathe Justice, Sisterhood and Love, I would quite happily sign a letter recommending she not be appointed to the Supreme Court. If you feel that someone you know very well is about to demolish civil rights in your country brick by brick, why on earth wouldn't you say something?

TXDG 09-29-2020 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldBows (Post 2479895)
If any of my sorority sisters were to be nominated to the Supreme Court and I felt that she didn't live and breathe Justice, Sisterhood and Love, I would quite happily sign a letter recommending she not be appointed to the Supreme Court. If you feel that someone you know very well is about to demolish civil rights in your country brick by brick, why on earth wouldn't you say something?

Of course “good Greeks” cover for their brothers and sisters as they have for 150 years. Wouldn’t want to hurt little Timmy’s chances of making partner at the firm, deacon at the church or losing out on a political appointment. Seriously this is why our Greek system has a target on it’s back.

I adore my sisterhood and have been a dues-paying, gifting, involved alumna & volunteer for 20+ years. But DG is not more important than my family, my country or my morals & religious beliefs. And if a DG were about to go trample everything I hold dear - say, if Ann Coulter were nominated for this seat - I would not sit silently and cover for her in the bonds of sisterhood.

Shellfish 09-29-2020 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Iota_JWH (Post 2479891)
I find it interesting that another extremely conservative female Republican, Sen. Kelly Loeffler of North Carolina is also a KD.

Georgia, and according to Wikipedia she is a member of Alpha Gamma Delta.

UVASquirrel 09-29-2020 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Shellfish (Post 2479899)
Georgia, and according to Wikipedia she is a member of Alpha Gamma Delta.

She is an Alpha Gam. Just looked her up in our Database.

carnation 09-29-2020 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2479876)
Alumnae who knew her personally saying “Amy is my chapter sister and we lived in the house together for two years but she’s terrible” just makes them sound shallow or backstabby. It’s one thing for that to come from a classmate, it’s another to come from a sorority sister.

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Originally Posted by AnchorAlum (Post 2479890)
I agree with you. And they're her "friends"? I have some sisters I've seen on FB whose views I don't espouse at all, but I wouldn't speak ill of them.

I can tell you. as a member of ODK on one campus and an advisor of that and Mortar Board on others: the members are selected by vote of the current membership. Back in the day, one of those organizations required that the vote be unanimous. Obviously, she was doing something right back then. I'm not sure I trust the word of anonymous people from college on her or anyone else. 'He/she was my roommate's third cousin's neighbor from 2 apartment complexes over and I recently heard bad things about him or her so I want to be interviewed by the media."

GoldenAnchor 09-29-2020 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TXDG (Post 2479896)
Of course “good Greeks” cover for their brothers and sisters as they have for 150 years. Wouldn’t want to hurt little Timmy’s chances of making partner at the firm, deacon at the church or losing out on a political appointment. Seriously this is why our Greek system has a target on it’s back.

I adore my sisterhood and have been a dues-paying, gifting, involved alumna & volunteer for 20+ years. But DG is not more important than my family, my country or my morals & religious beliefs. And if a DG were about to go trample everything I hold dear - say, if Ann Coulter were nominated for this seat - I would not sit silently and cover for her in the bonds of sisterhood.

Amen. I fondly remember when Ann Coulter was set to do a book signing at my alma mater and many of my DG sisters organized a sit in protest together. It was a great bonding experience.

33girl 09-29-2020 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenAnchor (Post 2479906)
Amen. I fondly remember when Ann Coulter was set to do a book signing at my alma mater and many of my DG sisters organized a sit in protest together. It was a great bonding experience.

Did you go to school with her and/or live with her?

Believe me, there are ASA sisters I would sign a petition against in a heartbeat. But when it comes to one of my chapter sisters that I had the power to discipline her or vote on her termination, it makes me look complicit. Either that or I could say “Ann has changed a great deal since our college days. I hold fond memories of our years at State U, but I do not agree with the views she holds now.”

I have no idea if ABCBC has these same views in school, but if she did and people who were friends with her are now throwing her under the bus because it’s chic to do so, it’s beyond hypocritical.

navane 09-29-2020 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2479911)
I have no idea if ABCBC has these same views in school, but if she did and people who were friends with her are now throwing her under the bus because it’s chic to do so, it’s beyond hypocritical.

This is how it appears to me.

NYCMS 09-29-2020 03:18 PM

This post is neither in favor or against Amy Coney Barrett. It is in response to the alums banding together to oppose her nomination - which I think everyone and every group has the right to do, I'm all for using one's voice.

I was curious specifically what they think she has done that goes against the school values and from what I've read, it is linked to political views...that they oppose her for being pro-life, for being against the ACA, etc., etc. For many who are pro-life, then she represents commitment to service and loyalty beyond all. If you're pro-choice, then you will look at this very differently.

Again, this is not yeah or nay for her, but I do think it's important to look at what they're talking about when being against her. Perhaps there is more out there that would detail why she's unworthy of this post but so far it seems aligned with political viewpoints. If anyone can find something that goes beyond that, I'd appreciate it being posted.


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