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GreekOne 01-22-2020 10:12 PM

Bid Matching Experts
 
I am trying to answer a question for a friend and because my experience goes back to hand bid matching, I am hoping to find an expert familiar with today's computer process. Who here is most knowledgeable about the intricacies of bid matching?

navane 01-22-2020 10:21 PM

I don't know if this will help; but, LoyallyKappa made a YouTube video to explain bid matching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLt7...ature=youtu.be

Here was the original thread: http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...=bid++matching

Titchou 01-22-2020 10:48 PM

The computer process mirrors hand method. What is your question?

FloMo Mom 01-22-2020 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GreekOne (Post 2473001)
I am trying to answer a question for a friend and because my experience goes back to hand bid matching, I am hoping to find an expert familiar with today's computer process. Who here is most knowledgeable about the intricacies of bid matching?

What's your question? Maybe some of us can help.

IndianaSigKap 01-22-2020 11:08 PM

If you post the question I can get it to a friend who understands bid matching and can do RFM figures in her head.

GreekOne 01-23-2020 08:03 AM

Here's the question: PNM gets to preference parties with houses A and B remaining. She is a legacy to B, but her first choice is A. She ranks A (#1) and then B (#2). She is matched with B (her legacy house). She assumes that A filled their list before getting to her name. However, A is now participating in informal (so presumably did not take quota). As a legacy she would have been on B's first list. Would she have had to SIP to get A or would that have hurt her odds by not maximizing her options?

ForeverRoses 01-23-2020 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GreekOne (Post 2473019)
Here's the question: PNM gets to preference parties with houses A and B remaining. She is a legacy to B, but her first choice is A. She ranks A (#1) and then B (#2). She is matched with B (her legacy house). She assumes that A filled their list before getting to her name. However, A is now participating in informal (so presumably did not take quota). As a legacy she would have been on B's first list. Would she have had to SIP to get A or would that have hurt her odds by not maximizing her options?

A could have made quota, but was not at campus total. So informal would be to get them to campus total.

carnation 01-23-2020 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GreekOne (Post 2473019)
Here's the question: PNM gets to preference parties with houses A and B remaining. She is a legacy to B, but her first choice is A. She ranks A (#1) and then B (#2). She is matched with B (her legacy house). She assumes that A filled their list before getting to her name. However, A is now participating in informal (so presumably did not take quota). As a legacy she would have been on B's first list. Would she have had to SIP to get A or would that have hurt her odds by not maximizing her options?

Not all sororities require that a legacy be on the first list anymore.

GreekOne 01-23-2020 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses (Post 2473020)
A could have made quota, but was not at campus total. So informal would be to get them to campus total.

There is no campus total.

The young woman is wondering if there is anything that she could have done differently to have a different outcome. Thinking she was maximizing her options and doing it "the right way" only to see the chapter she hoped for doing informal after she didn't get a bid is upsetting to her.

Any advice you would have given her before completing her MRABA that would have changed the outcome?

ForeverRoses 01-23-2020 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GreekOne (Post 2473023)
There is no campus total.

The young woman is wondering if there is anything that she could have done differently to have a different outcome. Thinking she was maximizing her options and doing it "the right way" only to see the chapter she hoped for doing informal after she didn't get a bid is upsetting to her.

Any advice you would have given her before completing her MRABA that would have changed the outcome?

Since the campus where I advise doesn't have total, I'll just say that some of the chapters that are doing informal did in fact make quota, but they have a few additional spots open in order to fill the physical house for next year.

So "A" still may have made quota. and she matched "B" based on where she fell on "A"s bid list.
I would have told her to list both chapters just as she did. If she had SIPed A, she probably wouldn't have had a bid anywhere. A would have filled, and she wouldn't be eligible for a QA.
Hopefully since she went to preference at B she liked it enough to stick it out. I hope she finds her people there. Chapters don't carry legacies to preference if they don't like them.

33girl 01-23-2020 10:28 AM

A might have also had people show up to bid day and then drop for whatever reason, so their spots would now be open.

Titchou 01-23-2020 08:30 PM

Everyone is correct...A made quota so couldn't take more to get to total until formal recruitment was over.

80sHoosier 01-24-2020 05:15 PM

It seems like her being a legacy to B (and likely being on the top of their list) meant there was no chance of a quota addition to A if she did not match with them before they reached quota. I think the campus not having "total" and allowing some of these chapters to COB causes some ill feelings like this. I guess the only advice that could be given is if it is a campus that does not have total and there are some chapters that make quota but then immediately pick up more members because they have a bigger house, one could take a chance on SIPing and then hoping to be picked up via informal if they don't match during formal. But obviously a risk and you may end up nowhere.

navane 01-25-2020 08:07 PM

But the PNM was never on sorority A's first bid list to start with, right? :( :o

IndianaSigKap 01-25-2020 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by navane (Post 2473100)
But the PNM was never on sorority A's first bid list to start with, right? :( :o

She had to be on sorority A's bid list to be invited to preference, however she could be anywhere on the list. There isn't a first list, second list, etc. It's one list ranked top to bottom.

sigmagirl2000 01-25-2020 11:41 PM

Good clarification, IndianaSK, I haven’t read the whole thread, so I need to?

ForrestGrump 01-26-2020 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap (Post 2473101)
She had to be on sorority A's bid list to be invited to preference, however she could be anywhere on the list. There isn't a first list, second list, etc. It's one list ranked top to bottom.

If a campus using RFM does its bid matching by hand, NPC policy states that each NPC chapter on campus has to create an "A" list of its top candidates in alphabetical order; the RFM consultant advises how many women each chapter needs to put on its A list (minimally, the A list should include at least the same number of women as quota). All other candidates who attended pref are entered on a "B" list in rank order.

Granted, you aren't likely to see hand bid matching done at larger campuses where the number of pnm's is in the hundreds, but my alma mater still matches bids by hand, and the chapters there must submit two lists.

navane 01-26-2020 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap (Post 2473101)
She had to be on sorority A's bid list to be invited to preference, however she could be anywhere on the list. There isn't a first list, second list, etc. It's one list ranked top to bottom.

Ok fine.... “they didn’t place her high enough”. :o

Titchou 01-26-2020 08:57 AM

If a group "requires" legacies to be on the "first bid list" they would be at the top of the computer matching list.

IndianaSigKap 01-26-2020 01:03 PM

I believe the university in this case is a very large state school that would NOT be hand matching. That is why I answered the way I did @Forrest Gump.

ForrestGrump 01-26-2020 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap (Post 2473108)
I believe the university in this case is a very large state school that would NOT be hand matching. That is why I answered the way I did @Forrest Gump.

I figured as much! Mostly schools that have fewer NPC chapters and/or fewer pnm's/lower quotas still do hand matching.

Titchou 01-26-2020 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ForrestGrump (Post 2473109)
I figured as much! Mostly schools that have fewer NPC chapters and/or fewer pnm's/lower quotas still do hand matching.

Many fewer...I live near 5 campuses that have about 6 chapters each - and they all do computerized recruitment..

shadokat 01-27-2020 02:31 PM

Out of all the small bumble EF schools out in the middle of PA, there isn't one that doesn't use computer bid matching. it's pretty rare nowadays.

sigmagirl2000 01-27-2020 05:31 PM

I’m only aware of one school that uses hand matching right now. They only have 2 chapters on campus and even moving to a bid matching formally and quota/ total was an awesome huge jump for them a few years ago.


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