Berkeley drops words to be inclusive, including 'fraternities' and 'sororities'
 

https://abcnews.go.com/Weird/wireSto..._headlines_hed

Scorn over here. WTH.

Typical Berkley Game Playing Bull S**T!:mad:

One thing they have always lacked in the State of Fruits and Nuts is common sense!:o Berkley being on top of the list!

"Human made"? Why not huwoman made? Or huperson made? Or why "son"? Huperdaughter made? Huchild made? No, not child labor. Maybe homo sapiens made? Oops. No "homo". Lifeform-made?

SMDH.

So you replace one word with four? Never gonna happen.

Idiotic. They should have taken the money they wasted on this and used it to help deal with the homelessness problem.

What a bunch of morons.

I just don't understand the focus on Greek life. Taking 'man' out of a word is one thing, but eliminating words altogether?

Don't get me wrong. I think the entire thing is ludicrous, but what does referring to Greek orgs as fraternities and sororities have to do with this? Is it because one is associated with males and one with females? If that's the case, I declare that no one can say penis and vagina anymore! Only genitalia!

Oh, the humanity.

I worked in the Engineering - Construction business for 40 years as a female engineer, I ALWAYS insisted on using the word JOBHOURS instead of MANHOURS. You may think some of this is crazy, but I do not. Yes, somethings seem a bit over the top, but getting rid of gender stereotypes is not.

When I was a kid, people started using "person" instead of man (chairperson). I remember being out in front of the house Saturday and my father turned to my mother and asked in the person person has delivered the person yet as he was waiting for a specific letter or something.

DaffyKD

Not only that, calling it a “Greek system residence” is completely inaccurate - a chapter is not the same thing as the building the members reside in. (The same concept as the nails-on-chalkboard “what house did you join?”) What about the Greek chapters that don’t have houses or designated living spaces? Are they not even worthy of reference?

I’m not sure how a city/municipality is allowed to tell a state agency (the university) what to do. Granted, it’s Berkley and the UC probably agrees with it, but it’s still a poor precedent to set.

The city council has always been a laughingstock and has very little power over the university. UC does what it wants.

I found the full list. Page 5-8: https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...ml#document/p8

I can even understand changing 'Policeman' to 'Police Officer' in a town's official documents, but changing 'manhole' or 'manpower'? Some words just contain the word 'man' and they're used in common language.

Kind of the Typical inane norm of stupidity of being P C. P C ness has gone so far over board about sexual identity and look where we are today??:mad:

We are like a rudderless ship in a storm and WE THEM PEOPLE just sit back and take it?:confused: When University say Greeks must combine or be taken off of Campi.

Take heed Universities, We The Alumni control the donations to and for you!:mad::rolleyes:

It just occurred to me that the City of Berkeley would include "fraternity" and "sorority" on their list because they probably mention them in the local zoning laws and internal city documents. I originally interpreted the sentence from the news article to mean that the city was expecting the state university to change terms on campus as well.

Men can have manholes lol. I don't think too many women are offended by this title.

I hated it so much at my last job when they would cal a female chairperson a chairman. It just bothered me, and we had several. Things like that matter, IMO, but manholes? Nah.

The fraternities and sororities ARE single sex. I hope they decide this isn't an issue in and of itself, a la Harvard...

I, on the other hand, have always insisted my title was properly Madam Chairman.

That part actually makes the most sense with what they're using as the alternative phrase. It sounds to me like this definitely has to do with city ordinances and governance rather than anything official as far as how the groups are referred to by the University.

Except it’s wrong and they’re too bullheaded and ignorant to realize why. You don’t join a building.

Well, of course you don't join a building. :rolleyes: To be honest, where they really went wrong is using "fraternities" and "sororities" in city documents that, as navane pointed out, likely have to do with zoning laws and other ordinances. In those cases, assuming she's correct, it would have been better for them to say "sorority/fraternity houses," and "Greek system residences" makes more sense as a replacement for that if it's going to be a replacement for anything. That's what I meant by saying that it makes sense—considering I don't see it replacing any of the currently used terminology on Berkeley's website—the entire Greek system is called "CalGreeks" anyway, and within that, the houses are just that—houses. ;)