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Rudey 09-27-2002 01:55 PM

Breaking News
 
(Chicago) September 27, 2002 - It all started when one particular TKE could not stop reading useless news on the internet. But this particular addiction turned ugly at some point.

Said TKE had to fill up the entire GreekChat forum with a lot of useless news on a daily basis to get his high. Other GC members have decided to confront him about this. They also think it's a liability for John Hammel as most, if not all, of the information is copyrighted.

"He is making my online GC experience rather annoying," claimed a fraternity man who chose to be anonymous. "Why should I have to sort between useless posts and his," screamed GC regular Rudey.

This has caused quite a commotion around here. Please do not erase this post zntke as you have already done several times because you do not agree with it. Erase the many articles which you constantly steal and post. Do not abuse your mod privileges.

Dionysus 09-27-2002 02:14 PM

I find his articles amusing. There's a whole lot more annoying things floating around GC than that.

The1calledTKE 09-27-2002 02:17 PM

Ok I will keep it up but maybe I will keep on posting news. I planned on stopping who knows now. In the chit chat description it list news as one of the thing you can talk about.

Unregistered- 09-27-2002 02:17 PM

I agree with Dionysus.

zntke I hope you keep this thread open because I enjoy reading your posts! I know a lot of people will agree with me.

If you consider his posts "useless", maybe you should try and use the Ignore function instead of starting up isht on GreekChat. :rolleyes:

librasoul22 09-27-2002 02:20 PM

I, for one, find Rudey far more annoying than zntke. But that's just me.

AlphaGam1019 09-27-2002 02:22 PM

lol, maybe you should include everyone who's ever posted an article on GC. :eek: whoa...a liability. someone, call a lawyer :rolleyes:

The1calledTKE 09-27-2002 02:24 PM

Readin the ap site, its says as long as you site it came from ap its ok. If no body could use ap articles because they were copy righted then news organiztions, newspapers, ect would be screwed.

Steeltrap 09-27-2002 02:43 PM

I don't mind the news topics, as a reporter myself.
:p

thesweetestone 09-27-2002 02:45 PM

Those articles help me keep up with the news.

dzrose93 09-27-2002 02:50 PM

Personally, I enjoy the news threads a lot more than some other Chit Chat topics. I'd much rather visit the Chit Chat forum and learn that the woman who beat her child in the Kohl's parking lot has been caught than read yet another thread on cheesy pickup lines. :D The news articles help to get a lot of interesting debates going -- some of them definitely get people to start "chit chatting." ;)

Rudey 09-27-2002 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zntke711
Readin the ap site, its says as long as you site it came from ap its ok. If no body could use ap articles because they were copy righted then news organiztions, newspapers, ect would be screwed.
Before you blatantly lie, perhaps you'd actually like to read the AP website. Also remember a lot of what you post has been from Reuters and CNN.

"How do I get permission to reprint an AP story or photo?

All requests for republication of AP material must be in writing, clearly stating the purpose and manner in which the copy will be used. All republished material must carry AP credit. Unless specifically noted otherwise, all permission is given for one-time use only. No political candidate, political party, political action committee, polemical organization, or any group formed for partisan purpose may use AP copy in any publication. There may be a fee for reprint use.
For permission to reprint an AP story:
E-mail Copyright: copyright@ap.org fax to (212) 621-1567,
or write Copyright, The Associated Press, 50 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY 10020. (Please include a mailing address for a return letter to be signed and returned to AP)

For permission to use AP material online/electronic form:
E-mail AP Digital: apdigital@ap.org, or fax 212-621-5488.

For permission to reprint AP photos and graphics for commercial or editorial use, e-mail AP Wide World Photos: wwpsales@ap.org, or fax 212-621-1955.
To purchase AP photos and graphics for personal use:
E-mail AP Wide World Photos: wideworld@ap.org, or use this order form. "

OohTeenyWahine, perhaps you should just ignore my posts instead of commenting on them?

Librasoul, you're just upset because someone actually corrected you on your WWII history and told you America is not the greatest enemy. It's all good.

AlphaGam, yeah you're not biased...wait what relation do you have to zntke again?

dzrose, I understand what you mean. However there is a difference between posting one story and posting 5 frivolous stories he saw on the "strange stories" section. If your comment is that you like reading the stories, please visit a news website. Am I wrong on this?

I'm also sure you all enjoy these threads...all of which manage to take up a whole lot of space on my computer but you don't seem to really reply to them do you? I've seen at the most 4 or 5 replies to any of them.

I don't think I've attacked or offended zntke. I am just stating that this bothers me and it's also illegal. My frustration arises from the fact that this thread was deleted 6 times along with several other of my threads even though they violated no rules. zntke who did break the rule and who did erase my posts, did not erase any of his threads.

-Rudey

AOX81 09-27-2002 03:09 PM

Give it up...nobody cares.

Unregistered- 09-27-2002 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey



OohTeenyWahine, perhaps you should just ignore my posts instead of commenting on them?


For the most part, I do ignore your posts Rudey. This is the first post in a long time that I've actually replied.

dzrose93 09-27-2002 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
dzrose, I understand what you mean. However there is a difference between posting one story and posting 5 frivolous stories he saw on the "strange stories" section. If your comment is that you like reading the stories, please visit a news website. Am I wrong on this?
The thing is, I can't visit many news sites on this computer. Our IT guys have got so many firewalls up that it blocks many of the sites -- I can't even look at the NBC news site anymore. It's really frustrating. That's why I enjoy being able to look on GC and find current news articles that have been cut and pasted. :) When the article about the mother beating her child was posted, I tried to find out more info from news sites and couldn't because my computer wouldn't take me to the websites. All the info that I got came directly from GC's Chit Chat forum until I was finally able to get an update about it on the news later that night.

I understand that you don't like having to sift through the news articles on Chit Chat, and that it's frustrating for you. It's frustrating to me to see frivolous threads like "what do you have on your vanity plate?" It's just personal preference, and what's irritating to one person may be really interesting to someone else.

At any rate, I can see both sides of the coin and can sympathize with each. We're looking for a solution that will be a good compromise for everyone. Please give us some time to work on it. :)

librasoul22 09-27-2002 03:51 PM

Rudey...that was so like 100 threads ago. I told you thanks for the history lesson and moved on. Why don't you? :rolleyes:

As for this entire thread, I think you are having your alpha male issues again.

At first, you were kinda funny...now you just suck. Get over it.

texas*princess 09-27-2002 04:55 PM

while i can see your point..
 
Rudey,
While I can see your point, I think there could have been a more tactful way of bringing it up. Maybe PM zntke and ask him about it privately instead of bringing it out for the entire GC world to comment on. Or maybe PM'ing one of the other moderators with your concerns.

Legality of posting copyrighted works is definately an issue, but like I mentioned, there probably could have been another way of handling it, instead of posting another "frivalous" thread.

Just my 2 cents.

Thrillhouse 09-27-2002 05:18 PM

A little bit of humor does this site good now and then, there wasn't anything too malicious about it. At least he didn't slam him in a news article or too, he made his own thread and it almost got deleted.

Dionysus 09-27-2002 05:46 PM

Who cares if it's illegal, I willing to bet that you had a drink while underage or exceeded the speed limit some time in your life.

Tom Earp 09-27-2002 05:58 PM

Well Rudy, we all know OTW is a Bitch at times ( In Yor Own Words Sandy) and ZNTEKE is a Moron,

They are 2 of the most respected People on Site!

I feel I Know both somewhat well!

Sandy's Problem is she lives in a time zone of Paradise! Da Aint to bad!

Zeke on the other hand lives in Georgia!

Now that is a hog of a different color! What is a color of a hog by the way?

I can be bad, but I am a Pussy Cat!:)

Well I am sure I pissed all of, AH well anit the first woint be the last!

Hell, KC Strip. Salad. Tater TONITE!:)

11 Hrs Sat So will see Ya Sun!:eek: :cool:

ZetaAce 09-27-2002 06:09 PM

Sheesh!
 
Please read the post about using the ignore feature! I do not see what the big deal is. You don't have to read every thread on GC! The news stories aren't half as bad as some of the threads up here. If they spark discussion, then so be it, if not, then so what? They won't be the first threads to be posted with no reply and won't be the last.

$.01

ZA

sororitygirl2 09-27-2002 06:10 PM

Okay, I am totally not taking sides on this one, as both arguments have some merit.

I enjoy reading some of the funny articles and I may not stumble across them on sites I normally frequent; they sometimes help to break up the monotony of my horrid job. However, I have to agree at least somewhat with Rudey on the copyright issue. People have to have permission to use AP stories... most newspapers pay an annual fee for AP service.

Of course, we have all done illegal things but if something illegal occurs here and GC gets shut down then some people will be very sad... :(

Lady Pi Phi 09-27-2002 06:13 PM

I'm a little confused how posting an article is illegal. My understanding is when someone doesn post and article here they do not claim it as their own writing, the source of the article is sited and it is purely for informational purposes only. I don;t understand how that is an different if I attached an article to an essay I was writing because the particular article was relevent to my point. As long as I properly cited the source of the article all is well. But hey what do I know.

Rudey 09-27-2002 06:49 PM

Re: Sheesh!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ZetaAce
Please read the post about using the ignore feature! I do not see what the big deal is. You don't have to read every thread on GC! The news stories aren't half as bad as some of the threads up here. If they spark discussion, then so be it, if not, then so what? They won't be the first threads to be posted with no reply and won't be the last.

$.01

ZA

Please keep your penny. If you take issue with my post, "please read the post about using the ignore feature!"

OTW, you are quite the mature girl. Thank you for ignoring me. They say if someone is immature and you ignore them, they stop with their childish behavior. Maybe there will be some truth to that.

Lady Pi Phi, reproduction of an article is quite different from citation of an article.

Tom, I don't want to move towards name calling. OTW and the others can call themselves whatever they want. I'm just pointing out certain faults just as other people do from time to time. However, this time I did it with a mod. Of course I was fully in the right.

Once again, I haven't attacked anyone and the only thing that really pissed me off was that even though I did not break any rules, my posts were deleted so many times by someone who had broken the rules and was given the ability to do so. I harbor no ill feelings towards zntke, but I'm still waiting to here why he erased my posts so many times. Do tell my little Georgia Peach!

-Rudey
--That Rudey is such a little pisser.

The1calledTKE 09-27-2002 06:53 PM

I apoologize for delteing your post it was worded in bad taste and I did delete that post a couple times but after a few mins I agree its ok to stay up because I remember alot of your comments are in bad taste and you mean nothing by it.:D

The1calledTKE 09-27-2002 07:14 PM

Oh ap got back to me said there is no harm since this site isn't a pay site. They suggested I link to the news sites which I went back and did. I edited some of them and made it a topic in my own words. I did it for about 4 pages worth of chit chat. Hope you are happy Rudey. If you think I am lieing email ap.:D

Least now I know it is ok to link to the article. Yah I can post a news topic now legally. lol

Thrillhouse 09-27-2002 07:15 PM

Re: Re: Sheesh!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey


If you take issue with my post, "please read the post about using the ignore feature!"


Exactly.

Thrillhouse 09-27-2002 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zntke711
Oh ap got back to me said there is no harm since this site isn't a pay site. They suggested I link to the news sites which I went back and did. I edited some of them and made it a topic in my own words. I did it for about 4 pages worth of chit chat. Hope you are happy Rudey. If you think I am lieing email ap.:D

Least now I know it is ok to link to the article. Yah I can post a news topic now legally. lol

Yeah, if ap came down on people for re-printing articles on here or other mb's, (even with you or other people giving the article credit) than a bunch of mb's would need some cleaning, lol.

Kevin 09-27-2002 09:37 PM

I don't apparently assign the same importance to what's at the top of the topic list as some do... I actually "Chit Chat" about the news all the time. It's actually nice to hear some of these stories. Beats the hell out of the hard news stuff I usually deal with.

And now that you have AP's permission I really don't see any concievable issue here except that someone might have to look at page 2 of the topic list!:eek:


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