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LaneSig 01-11-2018 11:06 AM

Alpha Kappa Lambda Eliminates Pledging
 
Alpha Kappa Lambda fraternity has announced an immediate elimination of their pledging process.

New members are to go through a 3 day/night education experience and are required to go through ritual initiation within 120 hours of pledging.

http://akl.org/akl-new-member-progra...-our-chapters/

"Why is Alpha Kappa Lambda making this change?
Over recent years the new member programs run by many of our chapters have been more detrimental than positive. Despite expanded education and resources hazing incidents have increased substantially. Retention rates have also started to drop. Academics reports for new members tend to be lower than the chapters. Eliminating pledge programs should significantly reduce many ills our chapters have been experiencing"

Kevin 01-11-2018 11:21 AM

If that's what they think will keep them relevant. As an aside, I've never seen such a transparent organization. Want to see the recruitment/retention statistics, outstanding Omega Fi contracts and balances due to HQ from each chapter? They make that stuff public.

clemsongirl 01-11-2018 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2451270)
If that's what they think will keep them relevant. As an aside, I've never seen such a transparent organization. Want to see the recruitment/retention statistics, outstanding Omega Fi contracts and balances due to HQ from each chapter? They make that stuff public.

That's something I noticed when I was talking with a couple friends in TKE about their top chapters-there is so much information about each chapter publicly available on their website that I've never seen ADPi release. You can see why the top TKE chapters are the top, or at least see some of the numbers that go into the rankings, but the ADPi process is very opaque.

Kevin 01-11-2018 12:10 PM

I could understand why organizations would release information about their "top" houses. Some of those top tier houses are riddled with RM or drug issues which aren't going to present on paper until you have sexual assaults being reported or someone is died or injured to to hazing and/ore substance abuse. Showing that top chapters are "top" is sort of like marketing a race horse which is the perfect size/weight, has a great record, while ignoring and not disclosing its inoperable cancer.

clemsongirl 01-11-2018 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2451277)
I could understand why organizations would release information about their "top" houses. Some of those top tier houses are riddled with RM or drug issues which aren't going to present on paper until you have sexual assaults being reported or someone is died or injured to to hazing and/ore substance abuse. Showing that top chapters are "top" is sort of like marketing a race horse which is the perfect size/weight, has a great record, while ignoring and not disclosing its inoperable cancer.

Well in the example I mention you can see all the chapter statistics, not just the best ones. I cite it in contrast to ADPi where there are no statistics provided for any chapters. Although to be frank I've not seen any NPC sororities post statistics like AKL or TKE publicly.

http://www.tke.org/chapter-rankings

I also like the way some NPHC groups post their membership and chapter suspensions or expulsions. If you think a chapter isn't on the up-and-up, or that someone is lying about being a member in good standing, the whole world can check online and confirm.
http://www.sgrho1922.org/expulsions-suspensions

ASTalumna06 01-11-2018 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by clemsongirl (Post 2451278)
Well in the example I mention you can see all the chapter statistics, not just the best ones. I cite it in contrast to ADPi where there are no statistics provided for any chapters. Although to be frank I've not seen any NPC sororities post statistics like AKL or TKE publicly.

http://www.tke.org/chapter-rankings

I also like the way some NPHC groups post their membership and chapter suspensions or expulsions. If you think a chapter isn't on the up-and-up, or that someone is lying about being a member in good standing, the whole world can check online and confirm.
http://www.sgrho1922.org/expulsions-suspensions

Wait... TKE ranks their chapters?!

Kevin 01-11-2018 12:49 PM

Take those numbers with a grain of salt. My internal information on the TKE chapter is vastly different. I won't give up confidential materials, but considering how different the number is, I find it hard to think any of that is reliable.

NinjaPoodle 01-11-2018 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2451270)
..... As an aside, I've never seen such a transparent organization. ...

Would Delta Upsilon fall into that same category since they are non-secret?

APhi2KD 01-12-2018 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by clemsongirl (Post 2451278)

Dayum 😳

Kevin 01-12-2018 02:54 PM

Yeah, wow. I guess that is one way to take care of ex-member perps.

shadokat 01-12-2018 02:59 PM

holy shit on SGR! It even says banned POTENTIAL members!

In my experience, the men are way less secretive about information than women. For whatever reason, sororities think that everything they do is a secret. It's sorta silly, but whatever :)

NinjaPoodle 01-12-2018 05:49 PM

Yeah, we don't play and neither do DST, AKA and Zeta. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/icons/icon14.gif

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Originally Posted by APhi2KD (Post 2451324)
Dayum 😳

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Originally Posted by shadokat (Post 2451356)
holy shit on SGR! It even says banned POTENTIAL members!

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Originally Posted by clemsongirl (Post 2451278)
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I also like the way some NPHC groups post their membership and chapter suspensions or expulsions. If you think a chapter isn't on the up-and-up, or that someone is lying about being a member in good standing, the whole world can check online and confirm.
http://www.sgrho1922.org/expulsions-suspensions


JonInKC 01-15-2018 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2451281)
Take those numbers with a grain of salt. My internal information on the TKE chapter is vastly different. I won't give up confidential materials, but considering how different the number is, I find it hard to think any of that is reliable.

What exactly is TKE lying about? It's kind of convenient that you can't cite anything because muh confidential sources.

Kevin 01-15-2018 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInKC (Post 2451640)
What exactly is TKE lying about? It's kind of convenient that you can't cite anything because muh confidential sources.

I receive confidential sources because I am a chapter adviser at my alma mater. On a semesterly basis, I receive membership and grade information for every FSL organization on campus which has more than one member. With regard to our TKE chapter, I'm in dangerous proximity to not receiving grade information for that chapter due to membership concerns. 26 members as reported on that website is #fakenews.

JonInKC 01-15-2018 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2451641)
I receive confidential sources because I am a chapter adviser at my school. Let me just tell you--the website's info is WAY off. Unless you think I'm lying?

What are they lying about? I don't know you. Why should I believe what some person on the internet who says he is a Sigma Nu says about TKE?

Kevin 01-15-2018 10:51 AM

Ok. You got me. I've been playing the long game. I registered in 2002 to convince everyone that a certain TKE chapter's membership numbers as reported on their national website were not the same as what I supposedly received from the university re grades and membership reporting.

navane 01-15-2018 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2451643)
Ok. You got me. I've been playing the long game. I registered in 2002 to convince everyone that a certain TKE chapter's membership numbers as reported on their national website were not the same as what I supposedly received from the university re grades and membership reporting.


Is it possible that what TKE National Office considers to be a member is different than what the university considers to be a member? In other words, for a silly example, if the university were to say that any student with a library fine cannot participate in Greek life. Therefore, the university only counts 10 members of the chapter, whereas, the national office still considers all 26 men to be members. If I recall correctly, TKE is one of the fraternities that seems to have no issue with operating outside of university approvals.

Kevin 01-15-2018 04:04 PM

Actually, that is possible. Our local TKE chapter has been known to have members who were not enrolled at the university.

PKT4LIFE 01-15-2018 04:12 PM

This concept was motioned at our 2014 convention. After hrs of debate, it was stuck down.

Kevin 01-17-2018 01:05 PM

I'm certain every chapter of TKE adheres strictly to HQ policy just like Sigma Nu chapters always do.

Tom Earp 01-18-2018 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2451933)
I'm certain every chapter of TKE adheres strictly to HQ policy just like Sigma Nu chapters always do.

I am sure you are showing some irony here. While we all want to see the greater good, it doesn't always work that way at the college level.:rolleyes:o

Kevin 01-18-2018 02:59 PM

Sarcasm highly intended.


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