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Tom Earp 01-09-2018 03:34 PM

Would/Should Oprah run for President in 2018
 
After her speech at the Golden Globes, any thoughts?:)

Post your ideas!:)

ASTalumna06 01-09-2018 05:08 PM

No.

Stop with the celebrities. Just because someone makes a great speech doesn't mean they should be POTUS.

If 2020's election is Trump vs. Oprah, I think I'll lose it.

Kevin 01-09-2018 05:42 PM

Please no.

honeychile 01-09-2018 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2451149)
No.

Stop with the celebrities. Just because someone makes a great speech doesn't mean they should be POTUS.

If 2020's election is Trump vs. Oprah, I think I'll lose it.

Just no.

Cheerio 01-09-2018 07:49 PM

Actions speak louder than words...

Sen's Revenge 01-10-2018 11:46 AM

It doesn't make a difference to me.

Tom Earp 01-10-2018 02:19 PM

WOW, a lot of venom on this post!:confused:

Oprah is not some fly by night person is she? Worth @ $3.5 Billion give or take!

She has been in a movie or two and a producer, started her own T V Network. Talk show host, started a magazine and other things. I would say she knows more influential people than Trump.

She is a very astute person who has a better relationship with people than many! BTW, she grew up poor and made something of her self!

Granted, she has 0 political experience, Trump did not either.:rolleyes: She has two things going for her! She is a self made Black and a woman to boot.:cool:


The dumbest thing is not to keep an open mind!:(

Remember when Reagan was slipping, Nancy ran the White House.:D

She may not run any way. But who really knows until it happens!:D

Kevin 01-10-2018 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 2451210)
Oprah is not some fly by night person is she? Worth @ $3.5 Billion give or take!

She has been in a movie or two and a producer, started her own T V Network. Talk show host, started a magazine and other things. I would say she knows more influential people than Trump.

Would you want someone to perform brain surgery on you because they made a lot of money in TV? Would you want that person to defend you from a murder charge? So why would you want that person to be the leader of the free world with zero relevant experience or education? Knowing more than the current President is a very low bar.

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Granted, she has 0 political experience, Trump did not either.:rolleyes: She has two things going for her! She is a self made Black and a woman to boot.:cool:
What we need is a "self-made black."

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Remember when Reagan was slipping, Nancy ran the White House.:D
There's a history of first ladies running the show when the President was unable. I have no doubt a woman can do the job, but I'd much rather see someone with at least a little relevant experience step up to the plate.

ASTalumna06 01-11-2018 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2451225)
Would you want someone to perform brain surgery on you because they made a lot of money in TV? Would you want that person to defend you from a murder charge? So why would you want that person to be the leader of the free world with zero relevant experience or education? Knowing more than the current President is a very low bar.

What we need is a "self-made black."

There's a history of first ladies running the show when the President was unable. I have no doubt a woman can do the job, but I'd much rather see someone with at least a little relevant experience step up to the plate.

All of this.

Heck, I have six years experience as a commercial underwriter, I hold four insurance designations, I have my bachelors degree and a paralegal certificate, and I'm still not qualified for some underwriting jobs.

But hey... someone who has zero political experience? Sure, let them be the leader of the free world!

We've now seen how well THAT turns out.

andthen 01-11-2018 01:26 PM

^^^This and also to add, I wish we had a like button for posts. :)

ARKTTKA 01-11-2018 01:49 PM

I like Oprah, she appears to be sane, level headed and earnest in word and deed. But....I do not want her as my president (nor did I want our current office holder).

I am waiting for the O/2O2O signs to appear here in Chicago.

Griffins&Quills 01-11-2018 07:11 PM

I also do not think Dwayne Johnson or Kid Rock or Kanye should be running for president either.

Kevin 01-12-2018 09:38 AM

Or Tom Hanks.

Tom Earp 01-12-2018 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2451338)
Or Tom Hanks.

Hanks would be smarter than that!:D

Who would want to be POTUS anyway?:cool::eek:

Tom Earp 01-13-2018 02:54 PM

I guess now what would be The Ideal Candidate?

Black self made female, has political back ground, Transgender who is Gay?

Did I miss any bases?:D

I know there has to be some thoughts here, LOL!

I would have said truthful, but that does not seem to fit the profile of any Politicians anymore?:confused:

Kevin 01-13-2018 05:14 PM

I'm just going to wait and see who runs, then cast a vote for the least worst one.

Tom Earp 01-13-2018 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2451448)
I'm just going to wait and see who runs, then cast a vote for the least worst one.

That is what I did in the last Election!:mad: That is what is SAD!:eek:

Look at where we are now?:confused:

ARKTTKA 01-13-2018 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 2451435)
I guess now what would be The Ideal Candidate?

Black self made female, has political back ground, Transgender who is Gay?

Did I miss any bases?:D

I know there has to be some thoughts here, LOL!

I would have said truthful, but that does not seem to fit the profile of any Politicians anymore?:confused:

IMO the days of an all white/all male Democrat ticket are over. I would like to see a Warren/Booker ticket in 2016.

Griffins&Quills 01-13-2018 10:18 PM

I would like to see a real departure from the two party system. More options. The problem is that while they exist, they don't get enough of a foothold. But I think some of the adjacent parties have merit and would hopefully lead to less bitter divisiveness. I'd also like to see more people voting in an educated manner, for the greater good, as opposed to blindly with their party.

ASTalumna06 01-14-2018 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Griffins&Quills (Post 2451462)
I would like to see a real departure from the two party system. More options. The problem is that while they exist, they don't get enough of a foothold. But I think some of the adjacent parties have merit and would hopefully lead to less bitter divisiveness. I'd also like to see more people voting in an educated manner, for the greater good, as opposed to blindly with their party.

#utopia

Ironically, I think this is what most people want, but we're seemingly still far from that happening.

I remember five to six years ago reading many articles that asked the question, "Congress has such a low approval rating, so why do they keep getting re-elected?" I think at the time their approval rating was 10 to 15 percent. There was a poll done before the elections asking people across all the states whether or not they approved of Congress. The vast majority didn't, but of those people, most said they were planning to vote for the incumbent candidate in their own state.

There's this view that as a whole, everything sucks, "but it can't possibly be because of MY politician!" There are numerous reasons why this mentality may exist; I won't hash them all out here. However, as you said, Griffins&Quills, part of that is due to people being uneducated about the candidates (but who has time to keep up with all of them on a local, state, and national level), and another part is straight up party loyalty.

I actually thought, once I found out that this past presidential election would be Clinton vs Trump, that it would be the time for things to turn on their head. Now, though, I feel like 2018 might actually be our best bet. If nothing changes after the debacle that has been this past year, I'm not sure that anything ever will.

wsucalsigmakapp 01-14-2018 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Griffins&Quills (Post 2451462)
I would like to see a real departure from the two party system. More options. The problem is that while they exist, they don't get enough of a foothold. But I think some of the adjacent parties have merit and would hopefully lead to less bitter divisiveness. I'd also like to see more people voting in an educated manner, for the greater good, as opposed to blindly with their party.

YES..

wsucalsigmakapp 01-14-2018 01:01 AM

I would like to see a candidate (of ANY PARTY) remind ALL OF US how much closer we are than far apart. I really feel if we could get a candidate that would stop with all the political party BS, we could show people that politically speaking, we are all (65-75%) much closer than we realize.

ASTalumna06 01-14-2018 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by wsucalsigmakapp (Post 2451469)
I would like to see a candidate (of ANY PARTY) remind ALL OF US how much closer we are than far apart. I really feel if we could get a candidate that would stop with all the political party BS, we could show people that politically speaking, we are all (65-75%) much closer than we realize.

It almost seems too easy.

Unfortunately, in regard to Congressional seats and the Presidency, you need a whooooole lot of money (i.e. donations) to run and win. The Republican and Democratic parties can pull in that money, so candidates tend to pick sides and sway in the direction that will get them elected.

spoog1 11-28-2018 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 2451144)
After her speech at the Golden Globes, any thoughts?:)

Post your ideas!:)



Can anyone name ANY system with ANY leaders where the lower class will be successful and won't turn the neighborhoods into ghettos?


Immigrants can build tech companies and the lower class can't even build a Big Mac.

spoog1 11-28-2018 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wsucalsigmakapp (Post 2451469)
I would like to see a candidate (of ANY PARTY) remind ALL OF US how much closer we are than far apart. I really feel if we could get a candidate that would stop with all the political party BS, we could show people that politically speaking, we are all (65-75%) much closer than we realize.


We are not the same. Some people want jobs and Dems want welfare. The American DReam is not to collect welfare or work at Mcdonalds for higher minimum.

ASTalumna06 11-28-2018 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by spoog1 (Post 2462889)
We are not the same. Some people want jobs and Dems want welfare. The American DReam is not to collect welfare or work at Mcdonalds for higher minimum.

:rolleyes:

thetalady 11-28-2018 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by spoog1 (Post 2462888)
Can anyone name ANY system with ANY leaders where the lower class will be successful and won't turn the neighborhoods into ghettos?


Immigrants can build tech companies and the lower class can't even build a Big Mac.

It appears that we have a new troll in our midst....

spoog1 11-29-2018 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by thetalady (Post 2462899)
It appears that we have a new troll in our midst....



Can you answer the question? Do you like failing at life or do you want solutions?

Can you name ANY system where the poor will be successful and wont turn the neighborhoods into ghettos?

IF you can name the system then I will support it. WE can use it in your neighborhood and you can own the results. No more excuses.

andthen 11-29-2018 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by spoog1 (Post 2462913)
Can you answer the question? Do you like failing at life or do you want solutions?

Can you name ANY system where the poor will be successful and wont turn the neighborhoods into ghettos?

IF you can name the system then I will support it. WE can use it in your neighborhood and you can own the results. No more excuses.

Thanks for that non information troll.
:rolleyes:

PGD-GRAD 11-29-2018 04:29 PM

Okay—I’ll bite....You’re LIVING in a place where the “poor” were able to be successful—the thousands of ragged immigrants who came at the turn of the century and became policemen in Boston and Philly, shopkeepers and tailors in NYC and steelworkers in suburbs of Cleveland and Chicago. They lived in overcrowded and sometimes shabby apartments and rooming houses in “ethnic”neighborhoods (ghettos?) where they eventually built homes and businesses. They became the middle class when workers organized and they finally were paid a living wage that allowed them to have benefits and pensions and soon become consumers of autos and electronics—which then stimulated more growth.

Yes, yes I know you’re referring to a racial stereotype—your descriptions and use of “ghettos” makes that clear. Here on GREEKCHAT we don’t traffic in insults or put folks down for their race, religion, sexuality or socioeconomic place in life.

So crawl back under your bridge...and spread your nastiness elsewhere.

spoog1 11-29-2018 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PGD-GRAD (Post 2462916)
Okay—I’ll bite....You’re LIVING in a place where the “poor” were able to be successful—the thousands of ragged immigrants who came at the turn of the century and became policemen in Boston and Philly, shopkeepers and tailors in NYC and steelworkers in suburbs of Cleveland and Chicago. They lived in overcrowded and sometimes shabby apartments and rooming houses in “ethnic”neighborhoods (ghettos?) where they eventually built homes and businesses. They became the middle class when workers organized and they finally were paid a living wage that allowed them to have benefits and pensions and soon become consumers of autos and electronics—which then stimulated more growth.

Yes, yes I know you’re referring to a racial stereotype—your descriptions and use of “ghettos” makes that clear. Here on GREEKCHAT we don’t traffic in insults or put folks down for their race, religion, sexuality or socioeconomic place in life.

So crawl back under your bridge...and spread your nastiness elsewhere.


What is stopping the poor from doing that today? Plenty of jobs in tech, computer science, healthcare, biotech, pharmaceuticals, engineering, robotics, banking and finance.

Can you tell me ANY system with ANY leaders where the poor will be successful? Pick any system you want, use it in your town, own the results and stop making excuses.

What is stopping the poor from following Oprah's lead?

andthen 11-29-2018 05:24 PM

#bot #troll #no one cares about your nasty rhetoric #a$$hat

spoog1 12-01-2018 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by andthen (Post 2462918)
#bot #troll #no one cares about your nasty rhetoric #a$$hat

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I am looking for solutions. You obviously prefer never ending excuses.


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