Ole Miss Rush rush story
 

Rush at University of Mississippi starts today, if there is anyone out there reading from Ole Miss, please tell us about it. There is a an awesome article from the London Times a few years ago that did an in-depth story about one girl's rush experience at Ole Miss. PM if you want it, I don't want to post it because it mentions specific sororities! Good luck!

PiPhiJulie is at Ole Miss and maybe she'll fill us in!

I hope we hear something! Three local girls are rushing there and it'll be interesting to see what happens, especially to the legacy who's real confident but who probably has little chance of scoring her mother's group on that campus--not being from Mississippi.

I'd love to hear about Ole Miss, I understand that theirs is one of the most difficult recruitment processes in the country.

I searched for this topic on GC but found no thread; I wonder has anyone ever see the PBS documentary RUSH? As far as I understand the movie documented formal rush at Ole Miss, but it was made about 15-20 years ago. I have never actually been able to see it, I wonder how it portrayed the process?

At any rate, I hope everything at Ole Miss is going well, and the PNMs find the right sisterhood for them.

violets

Rush at Ole Miss does begin today - in the middle of the hurricane!! Everything is either wet or blown away. There are about 700 girls rushing and it looks like quota will be at around 72.

If anyone knows how to get a copy of that PBS documentary, I'd love to get my hands on it!

Good luck to anyone going through at Ole Miss, I understand it's the experience to end all rush experiences :)

Christin

OleMiss Mom - Do you have a daughter going through recruitment this year?

My daughter is a junior and a member of Kappa Alpha Theta. She thinks Ole Miss and Theta are the greatest!

That's awesome! My best friend and roommate was a member of Theta at Depauw -- I also studied abroad with a sister of an Ole Miss Theta! Keep us updated!

I talked to PiPhiJulie earlier this week or late last week, she is very excited about rush... I emailed her and told her GC wants updates!!!!!

OleMissMom, my cousin's BF was a Theta in the mid 90s at Ole Miss. Wonderful young lady.

Ole Miss Recruitment is tough... But I do not know many women that go in, not knowing what to expect.

I understand that they moved rush to October from prior to the start of school, because so many girls that did not get bids were leaving school. I know it sounds drastic, but knowing Ole Miss, that does not surprise me. Everyone read my cousin's rush story... the one comment she made to me was... "A&As, the only reason I am worried, is that everyone knows I am going through rush... If I don't get a bid, they will know." I thought it was interesting, because at that time she had only decided to go through rush... she was not sure she would join. However, she is now a proud member of Kappa Delta with 68 pledge sisters/210 sisters and could not be happier!!!

Even though I know I probably wouldn't have survived the cuts haha, I would love to have gone to a school with such a rich Greek system and history. I love the South ;)

It's a bit ironic, but there is a story today in the Daily Mississippian about how the greek community is trying to clean up its image:
http://www.thedmonline.com/vnews/dis.../3d9402bd00567

Here are three more links to stories about Ole Miss reruitment covering IFC and NPC

This is first of a three part article on rush at Ole Miss... it is interesing: http://www.thedmonline.com/vnews/dis.../3d9162218d874

Information on the rounds:http://www.thedmonline.com/vnews/dis.../3d92c2399a03f

Information on dress: http://www.thedmonline.com/vnews/dis.../3d92c349d4b42

I couldn't resist saying, "Hotty Toddy!" I'm a Rebel from way back, but I love to hear news about Ole Miss and recruitment. I was initiated into Kappa Kappa Gamma back in 1977 when recruitment was still called rush!

The Greek community at Ole Miss is very strong. I hope every house is filled with great new members! Please pass along any news y'all hear about recruitment.

Hail State!!:D

lol carnation.... GOOOOOOOOOOO Eagles!!!!!

I do have to say, that the only fight song I remember by heart is Ole Miss'... Hotty Toddy gosh ole mighty who the Hell are we? (I have an excuse, my dad use to teach at Ole Miss)!!!

not such a happy rush - last year
 

I hope this story doesn't hurt anyone's feelings.

My daughter, as a daughter of non-greeks and MUW and Miss. State grads (grandparents also), went through rush at Ole Miss last year. She did not have a chance. I had no idea. Forget the stuff about grades being the most important criteria. She was a National Merit Finalist. (It would have helped a lot more if she had been a cheerleader.) Forget the stuff about the sorority members getting to know you during rush - there is a period of only ten or fifteen minutes with the members the first night. She was cut from every sorority but one after the first night (cut from it the second).

Over 50% of the girls that went through rush were from out-of-state. These girls have a better chance than Ms. girls without strong Ole Miss connections. An alum actually told me that they would only take one or two girls from our area, which had over twenty girls going out for rush. It didn't matter that it is one of the more exclusive areas of the state.

Some of the sororities are dominated by girls from out of state, as shown on their websites: Theta and PiPhi, certainly. Possibly KKG and AOPi.

The requirement that legacies are always invited back for the second party certainly did not help my daughter get to know any of the sorority girls.

Looks and reputation did not keep my daughter out. She is pretty(completely unbiased here), has a model's figure, has boys chasing her, and maintains them at arm's length.

We followed all the written rush rules - we just did not know the unwritten rules. Apparently, the lists are made out before rush begins for the most part - certainly the first invitations.

Many of the recs for this area are screened by local alums before they go to ole miss - don't know if some of hers ever made it to the sorority. I wonder if the alums are making the decisions for some of the sororities.

She is missing the sisterhood, and part of college life at this university since greek life plays such a huge role at ole miss. I miss the $3,000 that i spent on rush clothes that she never got to wear to rush, and I feel badly that I let her go through rush just to be rejected, and go to ole miss when she could have gone anywhere in the country.

I also feel badly that it has affected my younger daughter's opinions of sororities and ole miss, and probably those of her friends. But she wants to go to Brown or Emory anyway.

I always will wonder if this is the way people want the system to work.

I forgot to add that she thought the thetas were sweet.

Dear "rainbuckets,"

I am so sorry that your daughter had such a poor experience. I also had a very disappointing and hurtful rush experience when I was an undergrad. I went to a very small school where 50% of the campus was Greek. I know that the pressure to be Greek is much, much stronger at your daughter's school, but I also had my heart set on membership in a sorority. I also felt the pain of rejection. Even now, almost five years later, I can feel the ache of knowing that I was not wanted.

Fortunately, I was strong enough to realize that I am smart, talented, and fun to be around, and I was able to find other ways to make life-long friends and wonderful memories. I knew that the fast pace of Formal Rush did not allow any of the sisters to really get to know me. I am a quiet person, but I am a sincere and compassionate friend. I've always been shy in group settings, so Formal Rush simply did not present the ideal opportunity for the sororities to get to know the real me. I can't blame them for not inviting a girl they barely knew! I did not find a home in a collegiate sorority simply because the system did not fit the way I make friends. I attended an informal event during the following autumn and received a bid, but by then, I was so involved in so many other student organizations that I KNEW that I couldn't give as much of my time as the sisterhood deserved.

Yes, I was heartbroken. Yes, I still sometimes regret the choice I made in turning down Pi Beta Phi's bid, but if I had not dedicated myself to the student newspaper, the college choir & Chamber Singers, the National Service Fraternity (Alpha Phi Omega), and the college literary magazine, I wouldn't be the same person that I am now. And you know what? I like that person ;)

I hope that your daughter can take heart in knowing that the system doesn't work for everyone. I hope that you will help her to recognize all the wonderful qualities in herself that obviously make you proud!

My greatest pain did not truly come from the rejection; it came from missing the bonds of sisterhood that I had waited so long for. Now, as a graduate student, I am forming a chapter of Beta Sigma Phi, a wonderful International sorority that I know I will love! I may also consider alumna initiation someday, but no matter what I do in the future, I refuse to feel bitter about my Rush experience. It taught me so much about myself and my ability to make choices that are right for me.

Good luck to you and your daughter! Sorry for rambling a bit, but I thought it was important for me to share my story. I think it has a pretty happy ending.

All the Best to you,
Erica :)

Rainbuckets

Rush at Ole Miss can be brutal. It seems almost every girl there was homecoming queen, cheerleader, majorette, class president, top grades and on and on. I must admit I did get that phone call after round one from my daughter saying she had been cut from several houses and wanted to come home. (I had tried to prepare her for possible rejection but it didn't work.)But I told her to stick it out and luckily everything did work out for her. I think the thing that helped her was that she had attended summer school and had gotten to know several sorority members. I do know (at least for Theta) that all the recs are given to the sorority - and not to have them is the kiss of death. Thetas study the recs very carefully. And you are right, it is tough to make such decsions after just a few minutes with the PNMs. This is my daughter's second year of being on the other side and she tells me she always votes with her heart (and her heart does not always agree with everyone elses). Even though rush did not work for your daughter, I do hope that she is having a good experience with the rest of Ole Miss. I feel very good about my daughter being there.

OleMissMom

Sorry - I don't know too much about Ole Miss except that it has a brutally competitive rush.

If there are so many girls getting rejected, why doesn't Panhel ask a new organization onto campus?

DphiEAngel makes a strong point: why aren't more NPC sororities on Ole Miss campus? One of the ideals our Panhellenic Council pounded into us was that there should be a space for every woman who goes through rush. Does anyone know which groups are represented there?

The sororities that are there now (unless something has changed) are:

Alpha Omicron Pi
Chi Omega
Delta Delta Delta
Delta Gamma
Kappa Alpha Theta
Kappa Delta
Kappa Kappa Gamma
Phi Mu
Pi Beta Phi

Alpha Xi Delta left during my early college days; Alpha Delta Pi and Zeta Tau Alpha have since left. I think Zeta Tau Alpha left and then tried to recolonize but wound up leaving again. This was a while after I graduated from Ole Miss, so it might just be hearsay.

GLO's at ole miss
 

I asked the Greek advisor about colonization of other sororities, and he isn't very concerned about non-placement or happy placement of girls. He stated that they would not be able to get a sorority that would be willing to invest over a million dollars in a sorority house. I wrote a letter to Delta Zeta to see if this would be a problem for them Their representative told me no basically, and gave me Florida as an example. Then I wrote to the Panhellenic President, who said that two sororities had expressed interest in colonization, but that the Panhellenic Council did not know how to go about doing it, and the advisor was not assisting. I tried to let her know that it was up to the Panhellenic and not the advisor, as she originally thought. I sent her email to the NPC representative, but I haven't heard anything since.

The GLO's presently at ole miss are:

AOPi
Chi O
DDD
DG
KAT
KD
KKG
Pi Phi
Phi Mu

Total is at 150, unless it has been raised this year. All sororities were at total and upwards, several being over 200 members.
ZTA left in 1999 due to low numbers. The college bought their house.

The advisor uses statistics to show that they place over 80% of the girls, but a lot of the pledge classes disappear over the first year somehow. I don't know if they don't join or leave. (Total was around 68 last year, with some of the sororities getting up to 73 PNM's. The returning sophomores according to two of the websites was around 45. What happened to the other 28 pledges? It is possible that they did not make grades, I guess.)

They increased total last year from 125 to 150, rather than try to get more sororities on campus.

One of my friends who is a male and a big ole miss alum told me the other day that if you took all the girls that weren't in sororities and made a sorority with them, you would have the best sorority on campus.

Re: GLO's at ole miss
 

Why in Heaven's name is this jerk-o a Greek Advisor???? :confused:

rainbuckets - how could your daughter have worn $3000 worth of outfits for Ole Miss rush? It's only three parties worth of rush there - That would be $1000 an outfit.

I guess it just seems odd to me that if its such a large Greek influence school that there are only 9-10 sororities. I would have thought there would be a lot more.

Also, just as my two cents, I cannot fathom spending that large amount of money on rush clothes. My mother (who was in a house) would have shot me first...

Karen, it's like the LSU situation. You know how the other nationals are leery of coming in because the rushees have the groups they want set in stone in their heads? Same thing. At some schools, the PNMs would rather be in a humongous, prestigious, established sorority than a smaller, newer, or (heaven forbid!) less prestigious one.

Sorry, guess I had my "northerner" hat on. Oh, to be young and impressionable again;)

DZ went and conquered UF, making total with 150 great new members, and over 500 being interested in the colony - I think it is time for DZ (or anyone for that matter!) to focus their expansion efforts on Ole Miss. After all of the disappointment, I am sure there are an equal number (500 like UF) interesed in greek life and wanting to join!

All I've heard about Bid Day at Ole Miss, which was tonight, is that the young lady from where I live joined Pi Beta Phi. I heard that from her mom, so I hope I'll get all the particulars later. She preffed Kappa, Chi O, and Pi Phi.

$$$
 

After I went and checked out the Ole Miss Panhellenic site, I realized one reason they may not have a great expansion program. Did you SEE those houses?!? They're huge, and look incredibly expensive. Some of NPC may not be able to afford to take on such a HUGE expense. Look at what AOPi had to incur to start at Indiana...definitely a reason to be wary of this sort of campus.

What happened to the ZTA structure at Ole Miss? Was it sold to the University?

The Zeta house was next door to the Kappa house. It's my understanding that the university bought it and the ADPi house.

PiPhiJulie from MS Beta "Ole Miss" is having trouble posting on GC.. Between school and the NMs she is a bit busy.. her response to the Zeta House question is:

"The University bought it and it's now offices I think. It's in the middle of Sorority Row."


Also all that are curious: Quota was 71 at Ole Miss.

Pi Phi got quota plus with 81 new angels!!!!!!

Six of the nine chapters got quota. If you are interested in your sorority please feel free to PM me. In the past I would have put the information on GC.. But it seems to be a bit of a faux pas now...

I will say.. I am very interested in what is going on with the release figures and the dynamics of the SEC and larger Greek systems NPC recruitments now. I feel like this is a repeat from UGA... Two of what is known as the "BIG" guns on campus did not make quota.

At last count I think Theta has 88 new members!!

:eek:

How do they have that many?!?! That is more than our biggest sorority , or right around it.

I can kinda understand about not being able to buy a house.. but it totally seems to me that there HAS to be SOME way to get another sorority on that campus... I mean if they have that bad of a retention rate.. (only 45 out of like 70 new membres returning ???) the chapters are doing something wrong ? I too am surpised at how few sororities after hearing how "brutal" rush is there... seems like that could be stopped with an additional chapter or two..

London Times Article on Ole Miss Rush
 

Copyright 1998 Times Newspapers Limited
The Times (London)

November 28, 1998, Saturday

SECTION: Features

LENGTH: 2247 words

HEADLINE: The chosen ones

BYLINE: Diane Roberts

BODY:


They've got to university, but the greatest test is still ahead as America's golden girls vie for entry into the elite sorority houses that will shape the rest of their lives

It looks like an all-girl army on the march. More than 600 young women parade in sequence across the oak-shaded campus of the University of Mississippi, separating alphabetically into ten regiments on a street called Sorority Row. They aren't precisely in uniform, although most are wearing short, strappy dresses, pearl necklaces and high-heeled sandals displaying carefully pedicured toenails painted pale pink.

The tension in the air is palpable as the women line up in silent groups outside ten large houses with identical white Doric columns and verandas, distinguished only by different Greek letters: Delta Gamma, Kappa Delta, Phi Mu, Kappa Kappa Gamma, DeltaDelta Delta. At exactly 5pm a loud rapid thumping breaks the silence as the hundred or so inhabitants of the Delta Delta Delta house bang on the windows and walls of their house. Some of the young women standing outside straighten their backs and smooth their hair. The front doors of the house are thrown open and the residents pour on to the street, dressed in identical Ralph Lauren shirt dresses singing, "I'm a Delta, Delta, Delta, lucky person that I am." They head towards one of the groups of young girls, each calling out a name. It looks spontaneous, but the ritual is as choreographed as a Broadway dance number. The members have studied CVs and photos submitted by the girls and know exactly who is who.

For these young Southern belles, the party that follows as they are led inside the house marks the most important moment in their university life. Tonight and over the next ten days, all their efforts will be channelled into winning membership of one of the ten exclusive all-female clubs known as sororities. They have already spent a large sum of money on designer dresses for parties held by different sororities over the ensuing interview period known as "rush". Should they be invited to join, they will pay a further $ 4,000 (Pounds 2,500) per annum for the privilege. At campuses throughout the United States similiar scenes will be enacted as the academic year begins. Kappa Kappa Gamma alone has 113 chapters from New England to Florida. But nowhere is acceptance into a sorority more crucial than in the conservative Deep South, where the American class system is at its most highly articulated.

"It's a really important decision to make - which girls you go with. I'm really excited." says Carly Peterson, 18, one of the hopefuls who are known as "rushees." "I mean, this affects you for the rest of your life, and you want to be picked by the best girls." Delta Delta Delta is at the top of the sorority super league, by virtue of its members' aristocratic Southern lineage, classic good looks and leadership of the University of Mississippi.

Peterson, a marketing student, is not exaggerating the importance of gaining membership into the "right" sorority. Her social life at university will revolve around the house into which she is accepted. Members live and eat in the sorority house. Her admittance will not only govern her friendships at university but also possibly her career development: sorority alumnae look after their own in the job market. Most importantly, the elite sororities hang out with the elite fraternities, stocked with eligible young bachelors - the scions of Southern political dynasties and plantation families.

With her Southern pedigree and the fact her brother is a star on the university football team, Peterson has little reason to fear rejection. She also has the obligatory letters of recommendation from sorority alumnae. Her friend, psychology student Natalie Phillips, 18, has equal cause for optimism: her aunts were Delta Gammas. Any girl whose close relative was a member of a sorority is known as a "legacy" and will almost certainly be chosen. Girls with few "recs" and no connections will not prosper.

The party at Delta Delta Delta lasts about an hour. Peterson is buoyant as she comes out. She says that she already knows a lot of girls in sororities and had no problem making conversation with members. "We just chat, catch up," she says nonchalantly. Phillips is slightly less confident. "It's a little scary. I didn't know what to expect," she says. "The conversation's pretty normal. They ask you about your major (course of study) and your dorm room. Stuff like that."

There is little time to dally as they hurry on to the next party at the Phi Mu house at 6pm. Throughout the evening, and on subsequent evenings up and down Sorority Row similar "Coke parties" (as in Coca-Cola) take place, to ensure that girls are exposed to all ten houses. Each sorority has different songs and different outfits, but the interview process is the same. For no particular reason the Phi Mus wear mini-skirts, while the Kappa Kappa Gammas wear denim and bandannas.

Around 80 per cent of this year's 637 contenders will be invited to join a sorority at the end of the ten-day rush process, but they will not necessarily manage to join the one of their choice, and some will drop out of the process. Others face the prospect of being rejected by all ten. For these unlucky girls, the humiliation is such that they might even leave the University of Mississippi or try to transfer to another university in the hope that they will be accepted by a sorority there. Others are so traumatised that they go into therapy. Special "rush" counsellors on the look-out for depressed rejects will sometimes mount a suicide watch.

American sororities date from the 1850s as part of a push by women for access to higher education. Critics say they are an anachronism in the Nineties and accuse them of being elitist, anti-feminist and even racist. While black sororities exist, only one black woman has gained access to the white University of Mississippi sororities.

"There's no question that sororities reinforce the old race system and rigid gender roles that the so called "New South" is supposedly shedding," says Judith Menesee, a writer and journalist from Georgia.

Sorority women defend the system as a way to make close friends and forge lifelong bonds - the female equivalent of the freemasons. They have their own candlelit rituals and secret handshakes. If they are accepted into a sorority a celebration is held in which new members, known as "pledges", dress up in white outfits and swear to be faithful to their sorority. The Greek letters of their names are not arbitrary but have a hidden meaning revealed only in an initiation ceremony which happens after the pledge has achieved a certain academic standard, learnt the history of her sorority and proved herself a worthy "sister".

"There's this saying that it's easier to get into heaven than get into an Ole Miss sorority. That's a little silly," says 21-year-old Rebecca Hawkins, vice-president of Panhellenic, the national governing body of all the white sororities. She rejects the notion that sororities are elitist. "People tend to divide themselves up anyway," she says. "When you get to college you want to belong somewhere."

Over the next week hopeful rushees like Peterson and Phillips wait anxiously for cards that will inform them whether they have been rejected or accepted for the next phase of "interviews". The most impressive candidates, including Peterson, have been invited back by most sororities for a second round of parties, known as "skit parties". These are more competitive affairs. A whole new wardrobe of more glamourous cocktail dresses is required and the level of conversation becomes more specific, ranging from their career aspirations and who they know in common to their favourite make of shoes.

Dressed in an Audrey Hepburn-style black satin dress, Peterson leaves the Phi Mu house. "This is stressful," she says. "There are just so many nice girls. I mean, I go to one and think this is where I want to be for sure, then I go to another house and I love the girls there, too. This is kind of like interviewing for a job. You have to know what you want."

She's looking forward to the final round, due to be held three days later: "I can't wait to wear this dress I got." Phillips, who is more reticent about discussing progress, is going to parties in a different order, but they have four houses in common, so they could end up as sisters.

For those who are weeded out of the process at this stage, the devastation is crushing. Earlier in the day 30 rushees got the news that they had been "released": no sorority wanted them. Several broken-hearted girls were threatening to leave town. Rush counsellor Charlie Neely says: "We just tell them straight out they aren't being asked back. It's not easy and it's not fun. They get pretty upset and call their mothers."

Third-year journalism student Charlotte Hendrix recalls reaching the final round only to be rejected. "I felt I was a really good candidate, a super-achiever - I got all these recs. I really liked Delta Gamma and I thought the DGs really liked me. But they didn't give me a bid. I was miserable. I just wanted to drop out and go home. Maybe I should have gone on more about who I knew, the connections I had - that whole game they play. I was too much myself."

In the event, she decided to stay on at Mississippi and went through the agonising process again in her second year. This time she was accepted by ABC, a lower-ranking sorority that she left soon after. "They just didn't set the world on fire for me any more. I found other things I was interested in."

Each sorority at Mississippi may spend up to $ 8,000 on rush parties, and most of this is invested in the final selection process known as the "preferential parties". The food is suburban chic: tiny quiches and homemade truffles. There is never any alcohol. Instead girls sip lemonade or pink-sherbert punch from crystal glasses.

As the final round of parties begins, there is an air of collective hysteria. Indeed, crying is an essential ingredient. Prospective members have narrowed down their choice of sorority to three and there is still the possibility that they will be rejected by all of them. The sororities are anxious to develop some emotional connection with the top quality prospects who have now been carefully identified during the last two parties. In the final round a sister will take a desirable candidate by the hand and whisper platitudes such as "I want you to be my sister forever", in an effort to generate a bond. The rooms are lit with candles and boxes of tissues are placed strategically around the house.

Peterson was asked back to six houses. Phillips was not quite so spoilt for choice. She marked her acceptances at the university chapel, which functions as rush central office, and left very quickly. "Natalie's kind of upset," says Peterson. "But she knows which one she's going for, so she'll be okay."

Three of the grandest houses are wooing Peterson. At this point, she must make all sorts of calculations: which house best fits her self-image, which is the most well-connected and which she feels most comfortable in. "I have a feeling that the right choice will just kind of come to me," she says.

At the final party at the Kappa Kappa Gamma house members stood outside holding white candles, quietly singing. Peterson, dressed in a knock-out brown silk one-shouldered dress, was led inside by the hand. She is still dabbing at her eyes when she leaves. "I got pretty teary in there. They wrote us each a personal letter."

Next on the agenda are parties at Phi Mu and then Delta Delta Delta: "Oh, it's going to be hard!" That same evening she and Phillips walk to the campus chapel to make their final choice of sorority, surrounded by other sobbing girls. They must list three in order of preference. Their preference list is matched with that of the sororities and bids are issued the following afternoon.

In front of the sorority houses, members relight their candles, competing noisily with each other as they sing their songs. The Phi Mus, dressed in identical pink taffeta, are out on their balcony primly singing "sisters we are in a bond so true may it grow for ever," to the tune of Edelweiss while the more rowdy Delta Gammas shout "we are the Delta Gammas, D-e-l-t-a G-a-m-m-a." They will be up all night, wrangling who should be on the A list.

The next morning is the day of reckoning for the 527 girls who have survived the week's arduous set of parties. They are joined by members of their families who wait anxiously with their daughters for invitations to arrive from the sorority houses. It is a long day, the rush counsellors hand-deliver the invitations at exactly 4pm. Phillips barely has time to shout for joy when two of her new sisters grab her hand and drag her off to her new home - Kappa Kappa Gamma. She is given a sorority shirt to wear, and other presents including picture frames, baseball hats and Post-It notes in sorority colours. Peterson has got into Delta Delta Delta. "Oh my God!" she yells, hugging everyone in range. "I'm so happy. I mean it, y'all, I'm so happy!" Tomorrow there are classes, exams, a career to plot. But today there's just the promise of eternal friendship, love and belonging, the joy of inclusion, the almost-guilty fun of being one of the chosen ones.

Thank you OleMissMom... that was the only chapter I had not heard about... so, I need to correct my other post, six of the nine chapters made quota....

Congratulations to THETA and your daughter for a great rush!

that article sounds like a movie. I kinda liked it!!

Did everyone see the photos from dmoline.com:

http://www.thedmonline.com/vnews/dis...ee&image_num=1

http://www.thedmonline.com/vnews/dis...31&image_num=1

Pretty cute. Congratulations girls!
(Angels & Arrows - I PMd you)