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kddani 09-23-2002 06:36 PM

U of Pittsburgh rush results?
 
Tonight is pref, but I know there's at least two other chapters from Pitt representing on here.

We're preffing 35, which makes me pretty happy. Anybody know how many quota is? I'm guessing around 15 like it usually is? We only need 8 to be at total (60) b/c we didn't lose many seniors, so it looks like we're in good shape.

Bid night is tomorrow.

Also, did anyone else hear that panhel had lost the previous year's return rates and statistics, so they kind of just made up how many we could invite back? We had had to cut a lot, and then found this out. ARGH!

We also have consultant with us who has recognized a lot of things that are done during rush are against national panhel policies- such as having Rho Chi's present during pref ceremonies, etc.

33girl 09-23-2002 08:44 PM

Danielle - you mean a KD consultant or Panhel consultant? If it's the latter, she has many many other stops to make in this neck o' the woods. :D

kddani 09-23-2002 08:45 PM

Sheila-
It's a KD consultant.
A panhel consultant would have a full time job in our area trying to get things straightened out in some of these messed up greek systems!
:)

TPARose 09-24-2002 12:47 AM

The only thing that I knew for sure is the fact that Quota has been set a 17. The problem is that this is only the second year of doing formal rush after a long time without, so no one is really clear what is going on. All I have to say is that the Internal Vice President is doing an EXCELLENT job, considering she really doesnt have much to go by. Toodles, and good luck!!

kddani 09-24-2002 07:06 AM

wow, 17? That seems really high considering how many girls dropped out. But it always seems to be too high on our campus. That's why only a few houses get quota, and the rest maybe half or lower.

Publicity was much better this year than in years past, I give that credit.

Just blatant disregard of rules, panhellenic or even local (had some issues last spring, seems the same this fall) bothers me. Why have rules then if you're not going to follow them?

Good luck!

honeychile 09-24-2002 11:18 AM

I'm a former Chapter Advisor for ADPi at Pitt, and I had a few phone calls both last night & this morning.

Is quota still being set by the number of women who sign up for rush, or is it after a certain round of parties? One woman I heard from had her heart set on the "big sororities" but didn't receive even one pref party invitation! She & her roomie are both now so upset, they may not even give COB or snap bidding a chance! :(

A legacy x3 is so confused by the system, she's holding out for COB. :(

These are reasons why Greeks aren't more popular at Pitt. Something has to be done before more people are turned off!

Please, please, please post the results the minute they're available!!

ps - Good luck to all!

kddani 09-24-2002 03:25 PM

honeychile- I will post tonight whenever I get back whatever I find out. We don't get the lists until very shortly before bid night starts, so I won't know anything until later.

I have no idea how they set quota but 17 is way too high. Quota is supposed to be the number of girls attending pref divided by the number of houses, correct? I know that a lot of girls dropped out.

Also our cut numbers every night were really arbitrarily guessed at. They lost the numbers from previous years. We had to cut over 50 girls between 8 rounds and 4 rounds. When there's only like around 200 girls going through to begin with, that's a lot. Some were girls that we might've loved to invite back to see if they hit if off with someone else.

Quota is consistently too high, year after year, and they never change it. Usually out of 11 houses, maybe 5 get quota, and rest far less, like I said earlier.

honeychile 09-24-2002 09:09 PM

Sounds like things continue to be the same at Pitt! *sigh* We used to set quota after the second round of parties, but I still think that it should be set after the third or fourth. With a 4-day rush, too many women drop out prior to pref.

Thanks for keeping me in the loop, kddani!

doubleblue&gold 09-24-2002 09:49 PM

Every campus is different but most set quota after women accept invitations to second round. And your Panellenic needs to keep accurate numbers for release or everyone gets burned.

As for Rho Chi's attending pref......that's appropriate. There shouldn't be anything in pref that can't be shared----after all you do with women that might not accept a bid from you anyway. Rho Chi's when used correctly are there to keep track of the time and be sure there are no recruitment violations.

33girl 09-24-2002 10:05 PM

Re: U of Pittsburgh rush results?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by kddani
We also have consultant with us who has recognized a lot of things that are done during rush are against national panhel policies- such as having Rho Chi's present during pref ceremonies, etc.
duh, I totally read this wrong I think (thanks double blue & gold). I thought that you were saying the Rho Chis came to their own group's pref and revealed themselves. Do you mean that the Rho Chi's who are in, say, SDT and SSS should not be allowed to come to the KD pref party?

KillarneyRose 09-24-2002 10:43 PM

Danielle, where are youuuuuuu? It's getting late and you have school tomorrow. Are you out celebrating with the KD's and their new members? Are you at Peter's Pub with George??? ( :p )

I must know how rush turned out!!!

kddani 09-24-2002 11:00 PM

Woohoo!

We got quota (17) and almost every one of them was on our first bid list!!!! They're SOOOOOOOOOOOOo cute and nice. We all went to the Pittsburgh Cafe as soon as they came out, etc.

The following sororities made quota-
KD, DZ, Tri Sigma, Chi O, Tri Delta, and KKG
So 6 our of 11 made quota! That's really good for Pitt!

The others ranged from 1 new member to 10, i think.

I'm so happy, and so proud. We now have 72 girls in the chapter :D

honeychile 09-24-2002 11:13 PM

Congratulations, kkdani! Making quota is the way to go!!

I see some COB in my chapter's future - but they're much better at it than we were!

KappaStargirl 09-25-2002 01:24 AM

kddani, do you have information on the fraternities as well? KappaStarboy wants to know how Sig Ep did.

I'm happy for Kappa and all the other groups that made quota! Once I get settled in the Burgh I want to advise them :)

MoxieGrrl 09-25-2002 08:53 AM

Ahhhhh!!!!!! Yeah Xi chapter!!!! *doing a little happy dance* I soooo wish I could have been there!

It sounds like everyone did well, and it's so great that a lot of chapters made quota!

Question: Did a lot of girls not match, giving the houses that didn't make quota chance to COB??

Also, what is house total at Pitt?

shadokat 09-25-2002 10:21 AM

D Phi E did a fantastic job and have 14 NMs!! Way to go Eta Chapter :)

SigEp42 09-25-2002 10:56 AM

KappaStargirl,
I can answer that one. We are still in the middle of our rush week, we have 2-3 days left. We are doing well so far and should have a very strong class if everything goes well. It’s still early to tell on who will sign bids.
On a side note my friend went through sorority rush at Pitt this year and “fell through the cracks.” She was dirty rushed by a house that didn’t bid her, needless to say she was very upset. She has a snap bid to a house she visited at 8 rounds and is thinking about it, but is worried she doesn’t know enough girls. Any advice I can give her?

Congrats to all the sororities that made quota.

honeychile 09-25-2002 11:34 AM

The last I heard, ceiling (total) was 60. kkdani, how many of the houses are still under ceiling, do you know?

Also, will there be a formal rush next term?

kddani 09-25-2002 12:39 PM

Okay, where to start here.
Moxiegrrl- i think only the 6 that made quota are at ceiling (a few could be below, i don't know what their numbers were, but if not at total then pretty friggin' close!). So yes, there are 5 houses that will definately be COBing. And for the first time that anyone of know of (need to do some research) this is the first time we haven't had to COB!

Shadokat- wow, did they really? I didn't know that. I thought that they got 6 or 7. Did they snap bid? Just wondering. It's so hard hearing everything and not being there, so i don't always have the right information. We weren't near them outside last night so I didn't see. Plus it's so crazy you can barely tell who's who anyway!

Honeychile- yep, ceiling is 60. Like i said earlier, probably 5 are under ceiling. This was a really good rush for Pitt.
There should be recruitment in the spring, there always is. It's not formal, it's kind of informal but kind of structured. It might bea good thing for the houses that aren't at ceiling. Those who are at ceiling don't participate in spring rush. Last year all but one house had to spring rush. But if there's 6 houses at ceiling, that could really boost up some of the other houses!

As for the pref thing, that's only what our CDC told us? I thought it was strange, i wouldn't want there to be no rho chi's present during the pref ceremonies cause that could lead to some MAJOR dirty rushing.

And in other Pitt greek news, the Greek advisor resigned yesterday, so she'll be gone in two weeks. Who knows how long it will take them to find a real replacement. Sounds like a nightmare in the making!

SigEp42 09-25-2002 02:17 PM

Wait Sharon resigned? Where have I been?

I'm sure we will have a great replacement in no time. :rolleyes:

kddani 09-25-2002 02:32 PM

She resigned yesterday, so don't feel bad about not knowing about it!

SigEp42 09-25-2002 02:43 PM

She was/is a great advisor, and will be greatly missed. I am interested to know why she resigned so suddenly, she was just at our house talking about the new social policy and said she would be around for a while. This is a problem because they just last year got rid of her boss and grad assistant, so there is no one to fill the void. The next person in the chain is the dean.

Dani - do you know if Tara is still coming into town this weekend? I haven’t heard from her. And she said she may.

kddani 09-25-2002 02:49 PM

From what i was told it was for both personal and professional reasons.

I'm going to try to stop up and see her this week or next to say goodbye. She's awesome, and I worked with her quite a lot (I taught Freshman studies with her). I'm guessing that maybe the personal part is spending more time with her baby.

And as for professionally, I wouldn't want to be working in that office since Joe Cavalla was fired. So many students are still so pissed about that.

I haven't talked to Tara much lately, I talked to her briefly on IM last night about our new girls, so i'm not sure. If you find out that she is, let me know. If i see her online i'll try to find out.

shadokat 09-25-2002 03:37 PM

kddani--

I got an email from one of their chapter advisors saying they got 14 PNMs. I would hope it's true :D!

kddani 09-25-2002 03:47 PM

where oh where is fire1977???

she'll be able to tell us for sure shadokat!

KillarneyRose 09-25-2002 04:38 PM

Congratulations to all of the Pitt sororities for such a successful rush! Back in the stone ages when I was there, there were only three houses that ever made quota so as far as I'm concerned maybe the tide is turning!

Waaaa, waaaaaaa, why do I have to live so far from home???? I want to be the Greek Advisor at Pitt! Maybe I'd be a tad biased, but not too, too much! :D

SigEp42, I PM'd you

fire1977 09-25-2002 10:16 PM

I did bid matching for my chapter, so I don't want to say too much because I promised dphies00 she could post the results.

Anyway we got most of our girls through formal bid matching. I believe quota was set after 4 rounds. I think it's usually been done by 8 so this was actually better, and I hate to say it but with the release figures they guessed on, things worked out much better. Of the houses that didn't make quota they averaged between 8-10 I think with only one getting less.

I am VERY upset with the fact that Sharon was leaving. I was there before Sharon became the GA and I did NOT really enjoy the other girl.

I think the ones that made quota are at ceiling. There is one in particular that is like 18 above. Anyway sorry to have kept you waiting!!!!

Rho Chi's weren't in the parties, it was just JBoard and panhellenic officers. That was one of the new rules this year.

Chapters that I believe/know are under ceiling which is 60
Dphie
TPA
AEPhi
ADPi
SDT

SigEp42....
If it isn't too late have her contact the sorority and tell them that she is interested in COB (as long as they haven't gone to ceiling). You're chapter president should have a list of the presidents for the sororities, see if you can get it and give her the number to contact...that way she isn't obligated to join but can get to know the girls a little better. If it's any of the above sororities they should be COBing so she didn't miss out.

There will be a sort of formal recruitment in spring with the 5 houses participating that didn't make ceiling.

Did I miss anything?:p

kddani 09-25-2002 10:26 PM

congrats to you guys, must've had some awesome rush preparations.

Good to hear from an "insider"- it's so weird to not be a direct part of it!

fire1977 09-25-2002 10:37 PM

The VPR for the chapter has been planning it since the summer it was awesome!!!!! They were just amazing!!!!

I have to say that I am incredibly beat though!!!

SigEp42 09-25-2002 10:37 PM

My friend was very upset about the whole bid day situation but is gettin over it, and after a long day of debating she decided to take her snap bid. She is now a nu member of AEPhi. She is very happy as are the Phi's, she is a great addition to thier house.

fire1977 09-25-2002 10:40 PM

That's great!! I dropped out of formal rush and snap bidded and I NEVER regretted my choice. She'll have fun.

dphies00 09-25-2002 11:00 PM

Personally, I felt this was one of the best rushes at Pitt ever! Were things a little crazy at times, definately but we did just switch over to formal recruitment last year. Three years from now, everything will be so settled and it will seem like riding a bike.

Delta Phi Epsilon is absolutely thrilled to have 15 new members! This is our largest new member class since Spring 98 and we love every single girl in the new member class! And the best part is that so many houses on campus welcomed their largest new member classes in so long! I think about 150 women signed bids and thats some of the highest numbers ever for our campus. (Okay, when I say ever, I mean like from late ninties cause thats as far back as I know.) Every sorority really did a great job - it was like a huge Christmas morning last night in front of the union.

I'm just kinda surprised we didn't make the front page of the Pitt News - I mean we were LOUD!

KillarneyRose 09-26-2002 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dphies00
I'm just kinda surprised we didn't make the front page of the Pitt News - I mean we were LOUD!
In my experience, nothing Greek-related is Pitt News-worthy unless it's negative. At least that's the only time we were written about when I was there. And I was a copy editor yet! :mad:

SigEp42 09-26-2002 09:28 AM

Actually the Pitt news has been fair to the Greeks recently covering charity events, and such. Today was actually a very Greek issue with Front-page coverage of Sharon’s resignation, and a pro-Greek opinion piece by non-Greek. It had all the stereotypes in it about drinking and girls (it made fun of them) but dismissed the one about buying your friends.

This one is about Sharon resigning:
http://www.pittnews.com/vnews/displa.../3d927b9a5adce

This one is the opinion piece
http://www.pittnews.com/vnews/displa.../3d927f00058c9


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