Tri-Delta closing at University of Arizona
 

Sad to report that Tri-Delt is closing its Arizona chapter in May 2018.

Now here's a question I have for my Greek sisters with more knowledge of re-colonizing than me.

The press release announcing the closing seems to indicate that Tri-Delt nationals will look to reorganize and perhaps open again down the road. But this chapter has folded already one (either in the late 80's or early 90's) and then re-colonized so this is the second time to be closed. I think they only waited four years after the first closing before re-colonizing which, in my opinion, is too soon, too many students still remember a weak chapter. The times I've seen a chapter successfully re-colonize is when they're waited longer.

So here's the question: how many times does a national re-colonize before calling it a day at that school? To my knowledge Tri Delta has struggled for decades to make quota, going back to at least the 70's.

Here's the press release:

https://www.tridelta.org/news/operat...ended-arizona/

So your question about multiple recolonizations got me wondering, and I (cursorily) glanced at irishpipes' list to see which chapters had recolonized at least twice. And then, of course, I got entirely too in-depth with it, like all the other research projects I do:P There's some precedent for it even at Arizona, with AXO coming back and taking quota plus I think every year since they recolonized in 2013:

University of Alabama Sigma Kappa Alpha Omega 1932-1943/1988-1995/Colony Fall 2018

University of Arizona Alpha Chi Omega Beta Lambda 1930-1969/1980-2008/2013

University of Arkansas Phi Mu Alpha Beta 1923-1933/1978-1995/2012

University of Connecticut:
Delta Zeta Gamma Beta 1943-1972/1980-2014/Colony Fall 2017
Alpha Epsilon Phi Alpha Xi 1944-1970/1976-1983/2007

George Washington University Alpha Epsilon Phi Alpha Gamma 1930-1937/1959-1970/1985

Florida State University:
Sigma Sigma Sigma Rho 1920-1935/1960-1990/1992-1998 (I think I remember a poster on here saying they'd actually recolonized the chapter five times?)
Alpha Omicron Pi Alpha Pi 1928-1939/1949-1980/2013

University of Illinois:
Alpha Xi Delta Kappa 1905-?/1983-1995/2008
Phi Mu Delta Beta 1921-1939?/1946-2011/2016
Phi Sigma Sigma Theta 1923-1975/1975-2011/2013
Sigma Kappa Theta 1906-1941/1946-1968/1975-2016

University of Michigan:
Alpha Omicron Pi Omicron Pi 1921-196?/1978-1993/2017
Sigma Kappa Alpha Mu 1924-1934/1955-1971/1984

University of Minnesota Phi Mu Zeta Eta 1925-1935/1946-1970/2016

Mississippi State University Alpha Delta Pi Epsilon Eta 1966-1983/1985-1988/2013

University of Missouri Sigma Kappa Epsilon Mu 1968-1973/1990-2004/2012

Adelphi University Delta Phi Epsilon Lambda 1926-1937/1958-1971/2011

Syracuse University Delta Phi Epsilon Gamma 1921-1923/1949-?/2014

Duke University Alpha Phi Beta Nu 1935-1970/1994-2001/2003

Kent State University Sigma Sigma Sigma Alpha Beta 1925-1947/1975-1981/?

Miami University (OH):
Alpha Sigma Alpha Alpha Alpha 1914-1936/1950-?/1992-2000
Alpha Epsilon Phi Alpha Kappa 1940-1980/1986-2004/2007 (Did not participate in FR)

Ohio State University:
Delta Phi Epsilon Sigma 1928-?/1948-1987/1990-2001
Phi Sigma Sigma Rho 1928-1938/1947-1952/1952-1958/1974-1977

Oregon State University Alpha Omicron Pi Alpha Rho 1926-1935/1946-1992/2014

Pennsylvania State University Sigma Sigma Sigma Beta Upsilon 1954-1969/1989-1992/1994-2013

San Diego State University Delta Zeta Gamma Omicron 1950-1973/1989-1995/2007

Stanford University :
Pi Beta Phi California Alpha 1893-1897/1905-1944/1978
Alpha Phi Kappa 1899-1944/1978-1993/2011

Shepherd University (WV) Sigma Sigma Sigma Beta Delta 1945-1948/1960-1985/1988

University of Wisconsin Alpha Xi Delta Theta 1905-1972/1980-199?/2015

So, what these chapters tell me is that multiple recolonizations are usually done at schools with:
-large and prestigious Greek system
-flagship university or similar prominence
-old chapters
-lots of opening and closure of chapters

My theory is that when the prestige and alumni support of having a chapter at a particular campus is greater than the cost of recolonizing again, national orgs will recolonize. Unfortunately for Directional State U, once a chapter has been closed twice it's not coming back again. The exception here is Shepherd University, and I have a friend who went there so I'll have to ask him if he knows any history of that chapter.

It's clearly possible for a group to come back a third time and make it; most of the chapters on here who had quota numbers had made or exceeded it. I do think it requires a lot of soul-searching on the part of nationals to figure out what went wrong in keeping that chapter open and what they're going to do differently this time. There's a famous quote attributed to Einstein that says "Insanity is doing the same thing twice and expecting different results."

Phi Mu has been at the University of Arkansas three times.

IM (IFC guy) O- looking at the dates, it would appear that groups that waited a longer period than 4 years have been the most successful when recolonizing. (Not always the case, but sometimes.)

Also, when did RFM begin to be implemented? That could also affect the success of a recolonized chapter in the long run.

My question is: why were some of these chapters closed in the first place?

If you look at the chapters below, each of them has a recolonization that occurred within 2 or 3 years of them closing. Why did they close? Was it a "The chapter will close in 2003 but will have the opportunity to return to campus in 2006" type of situation? Are these closures due to numbers or risk management?

Either way, a chapter returning to campus within a few years of closure is likely in for an uphill battle. It means that seniors were freshman or sophomores when the chapter closed, and current students (both Greek and non-Greek) remember what happened and saw it first-hand. It's much more likely that rumors will fly, tent talk will be harsh, and some upperclassmen will continue to hold negative feelings about the sorority (or fraternity) that are hard to shake.

I added them, thank you! If anyone sees any other groups I missed, you have about 22 hours before I can't edit the post anymore.

From this presentation that Julie Johnson, the NPC delegate for Kappa Delta and Panhellenics chairwoman, has online here, it looks like it was piloted in 2003 and then rolled out everywhere over the next couple years. Only a few groups have closed again after that time.

RFM began in 2003 as a pilot on 10 campuses, then implemented wide-spread in the following few years which means Tri-Delt at UA was under RFM for many years. Not sure how many years between Tri-Delt's closing and re-colonizing but I think it was about 4 years. Just not long enough to "break" up the image of a weak chapter, no wonder many chapters open and close and close again if re-colonized too fast; I don't understand a national's thinking on that.

I got curious about Arizona's chapters re: founding dates/closures. The majority of strong houses were founded in 1920's - Pi Phi, Gamma Phi, Kappa, Theta, Chi O, DG and Alpha Phi. No surprise, usually the chapters founded earliest are the strongest. Tri-Delt was founded in 1946. Other chapters founded in the 40's were Alpha Epsilon Phi (still there, but smaller house), ADPi - which did well but closed at some point and has re-colonized; and AOPi - no longer there.

Delta Zeta and AXO founded in the 1950's, but DZ is no longer there and AXO has re-colonized twice. Sigma Kappa came on board in the late 1970's and to my knowledge has done well. I think Phi Mu was there, but closed in the 1970's.

What's interesting is how a chapter becomes a struggling chapter when sororities founded much later - like Sigma Kappa - succeed. I guess by then the image of a struggling chapter is so embedded that it's hard to turn it around whereas if a new chapter comes on board with great support, it can be more appealing to PNM's.

My question is this: when a re-colonized chapter starts struggling again, what can national do that really will turn things around? To my knowledge, Tri-Delt struggled for decades re: quota and recolonizing didn't change things or didn't change them enough.

Taking Illinois Phi Sigma Sigma as an example, because two years is a really short amount of time to wait, I found these two news articles about them:

https://dailyillini.com/news/2005/04...es-a-comeback/

https://dailyillini.com/uncategorize...-recolonize-2/

The first one is from 2005 but says they've been a colony since 2004, which sounds like a reorganization or recolonization of the chapter? The article says they also closed due to low numbers in Fall 2004 so it's not really clear what's going on. I also appreciate that they say the women in the colony advertised on "thefacebook.com" :D

In the second one, it sounds like they wanted to recolonize as soon as the lease a fraternity had signed for their house was up and they had time to prepare it. I imagine at a school like Illinois, part of the motivation might be "if we don't take this opportunity when we get it, we get bumped to the back of the line for recolonizations". Phi Mu also closed that year and didn't return until 2016.

Plus, the second article mentions that their national president was an alumna of this chapter. That probably didn't hurt.

ETA: this demonstrates that the concept of being "open" or "closed" isn't always as simple as we'd like it to be...

As detailed as Irishpipes's list is, there are also "immediate recolonizations" (which used to be known as reorganizations) that may not have made the list. I don't think those are done anymore, because they usually don't work well and they create bitter feelings. However, if a chapter had a physical house and they didn't want to lose it, it was probably worth a try.

In those efforts, the current members would all be given alum status (and sometimes an opportunity to be interviewed by the national reps and remain active with the newly reconstituted group), and then nationals would recruit a whole new "clean slate" group of PNMs the next semester. Sigma Kappa did this at Maryland when I was there, and it worked great. That would have been 1984, I think. Both my chapter of initiation (Michigan) did this, and so did Maryland. Both times, the chapters eventually closed for real and they've both sucessfully recolonized after 10-15 year hiatuses. None of these intermediary reorganizations appear in Irishpipe's thread, and I know of 2-3 more with other groups at Michigan that aren't noted either.

Does anyone remember the big brouhaha a few years ago when Delta Zeta tried to reorganize at a school in illinois or Indiana due to low numbers and there was a big media spash because disgruntled members who were given alumnae status publicly complained about the process?

I think RFM has helped, and staying off for 4+ years helps, too.

That was DePauw Delta Zeta, and I think that's a great cautionary tale of why reorganizations don't always work. There's a Wikipedia article with more details about it online.

I suppose there's different levels of closure: there's closed and gone and no members for 4+ years, closed and no members for less than four years, close down for a year or two and come back with all the same members (a couple sororities at UConn did this with mixed results), make all the current members go early alum and recruit a whole new chapter, pull out of recruitment and have a "colonization" but keep the current members.

I suppose it comes down to how badly a sorority wants to be on that campus, how difficult it is to recolonize if you're gone more than four years, and whether a new group can overcome the previous reputation of the chapter or if they need to wait for that to go away before they try to return.

Always wondered how that conversation goes. Eek!

I can't remember exactly when our Miami-Ohio chapter closed before recolonizing in 1992, but I'm pretty sure there were sisters from the closed chapter still on campus. Hot mess ensued. I think we learned our lesson from that one and I can't think of a recolonization we've done since then (except IU, which is always the exception to everything ever) where the living alumnae were younger than Social Security age. It sucks because AA is one of our 4 reorganization chapters and very important in ASA, but you gotta know when to throw in the towel. I don't think all the Risk Mgmt kerfuffles at Miami in recent years have helped either.

It doesn't go well. The PSS chapter on my campus did it my freshman year. The recolonization did work out okay, but there were LOTS of hurt feelings.

I think the only time an immediate recolonization (imo, when you get all new members, it's a recolonization even if it's immediate, because the group has the same level of knowledge a colony would) can work is when all the current members TRULY are done and fried after years of trying, even with full HQ support, and have requested the closure. They have their memories and relationships and are happy with that, but they don't want the stress of having to rush anymore. (Speaking of DePauw DZ this is supposedly what they wanted to do.) That way the sorority does not "move their feet, lose their seat."

I've also seen a chapter where a reorganization was done and some of the current members were made to go early alum while others were kept on as actives. I believe the national office pretty much ran that chapter's next recruitment. AWKWARD.

I'm 99% sure that Alpha Phi at Duke was a reorg. That's what I remember anyway, so I think the dates on IrishPipes' list may be confusing. I graduated right before, but my sister was on campus during that entire time and I don't think students there would have said Alpha Phi was closed at all during that period, but they did have the current members go alum and then start over.

I think I read here a few years ago that Auburn ZTA (which is a strong chapter today) did a reorg/immediate recolonization in the early '90s in addition to having been dormant during part of the '70s.

I saw that with a chapter in this state. They were gone for a very brief amount of time.

There is a sorority at my alma mater that seems to have made five tries at it, and I think they have dibs in any future expansion because they own their house, which is rare for this school. I'm guessing the house is a factor at Arizona.

I think success also at least partly depends on how conservative the school is with expansion, in the sense that they're really sure they need another chapter.

AEPhi "regrouped" at Univ of Michigan in 2014-2015. I believe they are doing well. Tri-Sigma regrouped about a year ago at Univ of Virginia. I would love to hear about the details of these "quick-recolonizations."

I agree with what you said about Michigan. I think the three groups that aren't listed at Michigan are actually very good case studies. One of the groups came back too soon and I think is still trying to find its identity (Iota_JWH, I didn't see your post until after I posted this. I'm referring to AEPhi). I think your chapter is a good example of what you should do when you close for real. It will be interesting to see how Theta handles things.

This is exactly what happened with DZ at DePauw and why it was such a cluster. The criterion was supposedly "commitment to the chapter," but it turned out to be "cool vs. uncool."

Did ALL the current members have to go early alum? Because if not, it's a reorganization, not a recolonization.

Also, if I recall, the AEPhi thing at Michigan was actually the pledge class of the closed Theta chapter joining en masse (they hadn't been initiated, obviously) & their nationals weren't involved at all.

Please take note and read the press release from Tri Delta HQ: Tri Delta is suspending operations for at least four years, similar to what they did at UCLA last May. THEY ARE NOT CLOSING. The charter is not being pulled. And it won't take effect until May 2018, so perhaps irishpipes you would be kind enough to edit the NPC thread to reflect that? Because this is still an ongoing concern, an active chapter, and the actives (and new members who choose to be initiated) are still on campus. Let's not stick them in the ground just yet. Yes, I am "bone picking" and I am sensitive about this. Because...

I am close friends with several alumnae of this particular chapter. This is a painful time for them. So in a sense I do have a dog in the fight, even though I am not a Tri Delta alumna. I don't like to see my friends hurting.

Tri Delta owns their land on campus as do most of the older established chapters (Pi Phi and Theta came in 1917 so are celebrating centennials this year). Agreed - the facility is in need of updating. Perhaps they will embark on a capital campaign? I'm sure Tri Delta has plans for a successful return. I'm looking forward to it. I intend to do everything I can to support my Tri Delta panhellenic sisters. Just as I support my other NPC sisters.

My final word: Chuck Norris picked Tri Delta and that's all there is to say about that. Pansy love!

Is there any difference, other than terminology, between suspending operations and pulling a charter?

I'm confused, too. Especially since they unequivocally stated that the initiates left on campus after May will be "unaffiliated collegiate members." Most schools have minimum numbers for all recognized student orgs in general. How can a chapter exist as an org, albeit a suspended org, if there is no one in it? Couldn't they have just let the chapter age out, so to speak, and recolonize when the current members have all graduated? If they're only waiting 4 years I don't see the difference. I know that the house is a factor, but they could surely come to terms with a GLO or theme-house type group to rent it and vacate when they're ready to come back.

I'm pretty sure it was a reorg, not a recolonization. From my understanding, that led to some problems within the chapter. A lot of the women who had originally pledged Theta did then pledge AEPhi, but they were very different than the older/initiated members of AEPhi (if they had been good fits for AEPhi, why didn't they join during fornal recruitment?). It seemed to me that AEPhi HQ actually WAS involved, as there was a lot of marketing done trying to make it seem like they were reinventing themselves. AEPhi was a very strong recruiting chapter before they closed and my impression was that that "reorg" was a recognition that they came back too soon. But I'm kind of cynical.

I skimmed through this thread so forgive me if I missed the answer to my question: What happens to the new members (assuming they are not initiated yet)?

They are released from their pledge and free to re-rush if they would like. I read on the other website that the new members were offered the opportunity to be initiated into Tri Delta and take alumna status at the end of the year if they wanted, but I don't have any confirmation of that.

Thank you.

AZTheta is right. Tri Delt's statement to the other Panhellenic chapters was that they were suspending in May but their charter will not be revoked. A very sad day for Arizona's Panhellenic community. I think Tridelta is considering coming back in 4 years because both ADPi and AXO have had successful recent recolonizations. Yes Their facility may be an issue. Like many other campuses UA sororities are always "keeping up with the Jones's" I really feel like there are no "bad houses" at Arizona. Just such a shame.

I think everyone understands the continuing normal operations until May part. The question is how after that they can continue to be a recognized student organization or participant in Panhellenic with zero active members.

Huh? 33, where did that come from? How did you get that? No one, to my knowledge, stated that, including anyone from AZ. "Unaffiliated collegiate members" doesn't mean that they are existing as a suspended organization, or any kind of organization. There's no chapter to participate in, for starters.

I just skimmed this thread again and I'm confused, I don't see that (the theory that they will continue to be a recognized student organization) as even a consideration. Again, reading the statement from TriDelta HQ, I don't see that either. It seems clear that they will be suspending operations effective end of Spring Semester 2018. Not participating, or anything of the sort. They are guaranteed to return at a date they select, the earliest being four years from May 2018.

As for the question of how this is different than pulling a charter, well that is readily apparent, is it not? The charter is like Sleeping Beauty. It's not dead and gone. It will awaken. Again, read the TriDelta official announcement.

The actives and those new members who choose to be initiated deserve to have what lies ahead be memorable. Let them have the opportunity to develop, experience, and enjoy "a perpetual bond of friendship".

So what is happening is...the charter is there for them to restart without Panhel having to open for expansion, pick them, yadda yadda yadda.

My confusion is from remembering a similar situation from quite a few years ago (AXO sticks in my mind as the sorority involved) and they had to have a few members listed on the active rolls to "anchor" things, so to speak. Not sure if that was a difference from group to group, a change in panhel policy, or if menopause brain has completely taken over. :)

You're probably thinking of the AXO chapter at Penn: http://www.thedp.com/article/2015/09...ing-off-campus

They never did get started again, though, I'm sorry to say. I don't know what's happening with KD at Washington & Lee, which is a similar situation, at least with regard to the chapter's relinquishing their charter.

Reading and comprehension are not the same thing....

No, it was longer ago than that...it was strictly a struggling chapter/numbers deal, no disaffiliation or discipline involved. I'll have to dig and see if I can find it.