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ChioLu 10-27-2017 03:27 PM

Well known universities WITHOUT Greek life
 
Besides the military universities (Army, Navy, Air Force), plus Notre Dame, Harvard, Boston College, Fordham, Xavier, Fairfield and Rice (most of those were founded as religious universities), are there any other well known schools that do NOT have Greek life?

I’m talking universities that play NCAA D1 schedules or a college/university you could hear about on the national news and NOT think “Where it that?” (So, not talking about places like Middlebury College, undergrad enrollment approx 2,500 or the Seven Sisters.)

Thought I’d start an updated thread as the last one looks to be nearly 15 years old.

Weaver D 10-27-2017 03:53 PM

Georgetown?
I thought Harvard has Greek Life - it may be off campus, but I know our HQ recognizes the chapter that we have there (NIC group)
Kappa Alpha Order has the commission program where they initiate recent alums from a few of the military academies (The Citadel, VMI, Army and Navy academies). Pretty sure that is unique to them though and they only initiate alumni and faculty/staff - no undergraduates.

naraht 10-27-2017 03:58 PM

Looking for some specifics before we start counting.

I presume that NIC, NPC, NPHC and NALFO "Social Greeks" chapters recognized on campus count as "Greek Life". and I presume that having Phi Beta Kappa or Pi Delta Phi (French Honorary) don't count as greek life.

However (These are specifically aimed at determining Georgetown and Harvard)
1) Do Professionals count toward the school having Greek Life? For ex: Kappa Kappa Psi, Tau Beta Sigma, Theta Tau?
2) Do the Service Greeks count: Alpha Phi Omega, Gamma Sigma Sigma?
3) Do GLOs which have chapters which accept members from a school count toward having a chapter there, So for example, does the fact that Omega Psi Phi Gamma chapter accepts student members from Harvard (as well as the following other Boston schools:BU, BC, MIT and a few others) mean that Harvard has greek life?
4) If the Student Liaison has a liaison to Fourteen different NIC/NPC/NPHC/Professional Fraternities but none are recognized by the school (See http://www.gustudentassociation.org/greek-life/ ) does that count?
5) And as for West Point, see http://www.aka-xichiomega.org/west-point which is about the Alpha Kappa Alpha chapter that includes the undergraduate members *at* West Point.

ASTalumna06 10-27-2017 04:06 PM

Fordham University
Loyola (MD)
Gonzaga (no social orgs)

ARKTTKA 10-27-2017 04:17 PM

BYU

ChioLu 10-27-2017 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naraht (Post 2445740)
Looking for some specifics before we start counting.

I presume that NIC, NPC, NPHC and NALFO "Social Greeks" chapters recognized on campus count as "Greek Life". and I presume that having Phi Beta Kappa or Pi Delta Phi (French Honorary) don't count as greek life.

However (These are specifically aimed at determining Georgetown and Harvard)
1) Do Professionals count toward the school having Greek Life? For ex: Kappa Kappa Psi, Tau Beta Sigma, Theta Tau?
2) Do the Service Greeks count: Alpha Phi Omega, Gamma Sigma Sigma?
3) Do GLOs which have chapters which accept members from a school count toward having a chapter there, So for example, does the fact that Omega Psi Phi Gamma chapter accepts student members from Harvard (as well as the following other Boston schools:BU, BC, MIT and a few others) mean that Harvard has greek life?
4) If the Student Liaison has a liaison to Fourteen different NIC/NPC/NPHC/Professional Fraternities but none are recognized by the school (See http://www.gustudentassociation.org/greek-life/ ) does that count?
5) And as for West Point, see http://www.aka-xichiomega.org/west-point which is about the Alpha Kappa Alpha chapter that includes the undergraduate members *at* West Point.

Yes, any of the National, traditional social Greeks, regardless of counsel, or service Greeks that have social events (APO, GSS)
1) not unless the professor groups events included social and philanthropy events on a national basis (not if it’s a few schools who host an annual formal)
3) no
4) curious as to what schools would have a liaison but no groups
5) probably not, unless the chapter actually functions like a chapter: meetings, recruitment, social events, philanthropy, reporting to national/international HQ

Okay, take Harvard off the initial list: https://college.harvard.edu/admissio...bt-going-greek

Georgetown does has Greek life: http://georgetownvoice.com/2015/08/0...at-georgetown/

naraht 10-27-2017 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ChioLu (Post 2445746)
Yes, any of the National, traditional social Greeks, regardless of counsel, or service Greeks that have social events (APO, GSS)
1) not unless the professor groups events included social and philanthropy events on a national basis (not if it’s a few schools hosting an annual formal)
3) no
4) curious as to what schools would have a liaison but no groups
5) probably not, unless the chapter actually functions like a chapter: meetings, recruitment, social events, philanthropy, reporting to national/international HQ

What GLOs does Harvard have?

1) KKPsi and Tau Beta Sigma *especially* at the Historically Black Colleges and University act socially like the NPHC greeks (pledge lines, probate, stepping etc.)
4) I just described Georgetown (http://www.gustudentassociation.org/greek-life/ ). Alpha Phi Omega *is* recognized, and it has the Founding chapter of Delta Phi Omega Foreign Service Professional which is *housed*.
5) The chapter of Alpha Kappa Alpha is a normal area chapter, just one that happens to include West Point and the sisters there. (The NPHC groups have been doing city chapters for a *long* time)

naraht 10-27-2017 04:53 PM

Loyola of MD, Fordham and BYU have had chapters of Alpha Phi Omega. Gonzaga has had an Alpha Phi Omega extension that failed, but currently has a chapter of Alpha Kappa Psi Business Professional

naraht 10-27-2017 04:57 PM

As for Georgetown and Harvard, in both cases, the Social Fraternities and Sororities are *not* recognized student organizations according the webpages linked to.

clemsongirl 10-27-2017 04:58 PM

On mobile so it’s not easy for me to link, but BC has a chapter of SAE that’s open to all Boston-area schools without an SAE chapter and a SigEp chapter exclusive to BC. Gonzaga has chapters of Kappa Sigma and Theta Chi, I think? As well as a chapter of Alpha Pi Phi, the Canadian national sorority. None of those are recognized by the schools but all recognized by HQ.

There’s also a Pi Kappa Alpha chapter exclusively chartered at West Point, so take that one off the list too.

naraht 10-27-2017 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by clemsongirl (Post 2445753)
On mobile so it’s not easy for me to link, but BC has a chapter of SAE that’s open to all Boston-area schools without an SAE chapter and a SigEp chapter exclusive to BC. Gonzaga has chapters of Kappa Sigma and Theta Chi, I think? As well as a chapter of Alpha Pi Phi, the Canadian national sorority. None of those are recognized by the schools but all recognized by HQ.

There’s also a Pi Kappa Alpha chapter exclusively chartered at West Point, so take that one off the list too.

Yup. See https://www.pikes.org/join-pike/expansion (Mu Pi chapter)

pinksequins 10-27-2017 05:11 PM

Caltech
Xavier, Providence (basketball schools)
Davidson
Amherst
Trinity (TX) (locals)

naraht 10-27-2017 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinksequins (Post 2445757)
Cal Tech

Cal Tech has (as of 2017-18) 961 Undergraduates (By comparison, West point is 4200). It is larger than the currently smallest school with an Alpha Phi Omega chapter (Which is Maine Maritime Academy), but from discussions with staffers, we would be unlikely to go to CalTech today.

pinksequins 10-27-2017 05:30 PM

Small student population, yes, but huge endovment (approximately $2 billion) and one of the most academically challenging universities in a league academically ith MIT, Stanford, etc.

aephi alum 10-27-2017 07:27 PM

Wellesley College has no GLOs that are open solely to Wellesley students. However, I believe there is a chapter of Alpha Kappa Alpha, founded at MIT, that is open to undergrads from MIT, Harvard, and Wellesley.

(ETA: Never mind... I just noticed that the OP specified no Seven Sisters schools. I would hear "Wellesley" and not think "Where is that?" but that's mainly because of where I went to school.)

BTW, when did Alpha Phi colonize at Harvard?

ASTalumna06 10-27-2017 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clemsongirl (Post 2445753)
Gonzaga has chapters of Kappa Sigma and Theta Chi, I think? As well as a chapter of Alpha Pi Phi, the Canadian national sorority. None of those are recognized by the schools but all recognized by HQ.

Ok, this makes sense. Because I found this...
http://m.gonzagabulletin.com/news/ar....html?mode=jqm

But then also saw this...
https://www.gonzaga.edu/student-life...sororities.asp

Sister Havana 10-28-2017 12:53 AM

Holy Cross
Oberlin College

PKT4LIFE 10-28-2017 02:26 AM

Rice University?

clemsongirl 10-30-2017 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinksequins (Post 2445757)
Caltech
Xavier, Providence (basketball schools)
Davidson
Amherst
Trinity (TX) (locals)

Davidson does have an extensive system of national fraternities. It's the female groups that are either NPHC sororities or local "eating houses":

http://www.davidson.edu/student-life...ons/greek-life

LXA SE285 10-31-2017 02:44 PM

The Claremont Colleges (Claremont-McKenna, Harvey Mudd, Pitzer, Pomona, Scripps)
Occidental
Reed
Williams

honeychile 10-31-2017 04:13 PM

If PSU keeps up their streak, they may be next.

irishpipes 10-31-2017 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LXA SE285 (Post 2446086)
The Claremont Colleges (Claremont-McKenna, Harvey Mudd, Pitzer, Pomona, Scripps)
Occidental
Reed
Williams

Occidental has Kappa Alpha Theta

DEVODUDE 10-31-2017 08:36 PM

Not a well known school, but Drew University (NJ) has no NIC and NPC Orgs.

PhilTau 11-01-2017 03:16 PM

Could be wrong, but maybe include Seattle Pacific University.

Reed College was mentioned above. Can't even imagine any Greek social organization there.

naraht 11-01-2017 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilTau (Post 2446151)
Could be wrong, but maybe include Seattle Pacific University.

Reed College was mentioned above. Can't even imagine any Greek social organization there.

I'm pretty far to the left politically, and the student organization list looks like something that a student of Oral Roberts University would write as a *spoof* of a Liberal school.

naraht 11-01-2017 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEVODUDE (Post 2446116)
Not a well known school, but Drew University (NJ) has no NIC and NPC Orgs.

Has an Alpha Phi Omega chapter. By the OP, that counts as greek life.

PhilTau 11-01-2017 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naraht (Post 2446161)
I'm pretty far to the left politically, and the student organization list looks like something that a student of Oral Roberts University would write as a *spoof* of a Liberal school.

The list is rather amusing. Most people do not know about Reed. Or you sometimes hear people joke about how liberal it is. But in reality, Reed is a pretty impressive place.

It did not grow out of student revolts and experimentation of the 60s, but out of a desire to provide a flexible, individualized approach to a rigorous liberal arts education. It was founded in 1908, explicitly in reaction to what was then being provided on the East Coast Ivy Leagues. So the college lacks varsity athletics, fraternities, and exclusive social clubs. It instead focused on being an intensely academic and intellectual college whose purpose was to devote itself academic life.

According to Wikipedia, Reed has produced the second-highest number of Rhodes scholars for any liberal arts college—32—as well as over fifty Fulbright Scholars, over sixty Watson Fellows, and two MacArthur ("Genius") Award winners. A very high proportion of Reed graduates go on to earn PhDs, particularly in the sciences, history, political science, and philosophy. Reed is third in percentage of its graduates who go on to earn PhDs in all disciplines, after only Caltech and Harvey Mudd. In 1961, Scientific American declared that second only to Caltech, "This small college in Oregon has been far and away more productive of future scientists than any other institution in the U.S."

Sister Havana 11-01-2017 09:30 PM

Liberty University
Oral Roberts University
Governors State University (IL)

honeychile 11-01-2017 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Havana (Post 2446196)
Liberty University
Oral Roberts University
Governors State University (IL)

With this list in mind, I would imagine that Wheaton College has no Greek life, either.

clemsongirl 11-02-2017 09:46 AM

Playing a slightly different game, this is a list of schools I can think of off the top of my head that do have national orgs but don't recognize them:
Harvard
Princeton
Santa Clara
Georgetown
Brandeis
Boston College
Gonzaga

Kevin 11-02-2017 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilTau (Post 2446151)
Reed College was mentioned above. Can't even imagine any Greek social organization there.

A good friend of mine attended. He told me they did have a group called SMAKASS on campus.

PhilTau 11-02-2017 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2446229)
A good friend of mine attended. He told me they did have a group called SMAKASS on campus.

A sampling of the student clubs at Reed. (Kinda makes typical college Greek life seem rather banal. The C.H.V.N.K. DCLXVI, which builds tall bicycles, is probably the most famous.)

90s Ball - One time event for Reedies to dance to the jams of the last decade of the 20th century and most importantly, live the true ~dream of the 90s~

Absoflutely - Reed's premiere flute troupe.

Aerial Acrobatics Troupe "The Reed Air Force" -- We bring you high-flying, awe-inspiring aerial acrobatics for any and all Reed events. * * * Our troupe is open to all Reed students, alum and faculty of any skill level who are interested in performing or learning the art of aerial silks and aerial lyra.

Blue Heron Collective -- Radical direct action politics

C.H.V.N.K. DCLXVI -- We weld all the freak bikes you see around campus! We also teach others how to weld their own bikes, and host tall bike jousting now and again.

DEFENDERS OF THE UNIVERSE -- We make awesome things. If you have an epic project you want to build, join us! From darkness came forth the protectors. To defend that which is awesome from the powers of the banal. When the apocalypse comes, DxOxTxUx will survive. Until then we will suffice to use our skills to blow your minds. If you have felt The Awesome calling, you will know where to find us.

Fetish Club -- The Reed organization for safe and consensual kink! We welcome anyone from the curious to the thoroughly perverted alike. Responsible for safety and consent lectures, creative workshops, discussion groups, and of course, Fetish Ball, we supply you with a host of events for your enjoyment and edification.

Non-Monogamous People of Reed -- A casual group aimed at bringing together people curious about non-monogamy in a nonjudgmental, supportive community.

Oh For Christ's Sake! -- We are a group of students that show God's love through community. We come together with spiritually interested students and study scripture and work through tough questions.

RSSK (Reed Shoot Shit Kollective) -- Are you interested in guns, shooting, or are just plain curious? * * *

Kevin 11-02-2017 02:15 PM

I've visited the campus. While the clubs are what they are, the academics there are legit.

Their Renn Faire event every year is pretty legendary.

naraht 11-03-2017 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilTau (Post 2446238)
A sampling of the student clubs at Reed. (Kinda makes typical college Greek life seem rather banal. The C.H.V.N.K. DCLXVI, which builds tall bicycles, is probably the most famous.)

Beyond that groups like:

Angel Booking
Reed's only explicitly feminist student booking group!

FungusAmongUs
FungusAmongUs is a group of mushroom enthusiasts who go to the coast each year for the Yachats Mushroom Festival.

Period Kollectiv
We believe that every person at Reed should have easy access to menstrual supplies when and where they need them. Top 6 Period Kollectiv and we promise to keep all bathrooms all over campus stocked with free tampons and pads, heating patches for cramps, medicine to alleviate pain, and supplements for overall menstrual health and relief. We will to target bathrooms in academic buildings, the library, the GCC, and the SU. We strive to only buy unbleached, chlorine free, organic products. We know that people of all genders experience menstruation as a regular part of their lives, and plan to accommodate everyone equally. Last year we had a lot of support from the student body, and were able to get funding for these supplies but they are not cheap!!

Post-PostKolonial Klub
We want to be an open space for people with histories of colonial oppression to discuss the experience of being postcolonial (and often) diasporic subjects. Although Reed has many identity groups, we feel there isn't a space for reedies who share similar experiences (as a result of colonialism) from many different ethnic backgrounds.Furthermore, there isn't a non-academic space for people to come together and explore what the postcolonial being is; lived, and negotiated constantly through projects of assimilation, neo-colonialism, american imperialism etc.

Soap-making Club
We are a group of Reedies interested in making soap! We will create many types of soap over the course of the year. If permitted by safety regulations, we'll use the cold process method, which means we'll be making our soap from scratch! Soap-making is a craft at the intersection of art and science. We'll design our soap, then watch chemical reactions occur between the ingredients we've chosen.We will scent our soaps with essential oils and color them using pigments derived directly from nature. Participants will be able to keep some of the soap they make, and the rest will be donated to the Reed Community Pantry or to Portland shelters, so that everyone can meet basic hygiene needs with a piece of art that isn't basic at all (soap pun).

Sciencewoman 11-03-2017 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 2446203)
With this list in mind, I would imagine that Wheaton College has no Greek life, either.

The daughter of our 2008-2012 Intl. President graduated from Wheaton, and joined Gamma Phi as as an AI at our 2010 Convention. I was also sponsoring an AI, so I got to know her a bit. You're right about no Greek life there.

One of our neighbors is a senior at Reed. He has three Tri Delta sisters. When he posted on FB that he'd be going to Reed, one of the sisters responded with, "good luck finding a girl to date who shaves her legs or armpits!"

Kevin 11-03-2017 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sciencewoman (Post 2446291)
"good luck finding a girl to date who shaves her legs or armpits!"

True story.

ForeverRoses 11-03-2017 09:31 AM

Reed sounds a lot like Antioch in Yellow Springs, Ohio...

ARKTTKA 11-03-2017 02:20 PM

Hendrix College in Conway, AR

Sister Havana 11-03-2017 07:32 PM

Columbia College Chicago

LXA SE285 11-06-2017 02:42 AM

Judson College, a tiny (~300-student) Baptist women's school in Marion, Alabama, had chapters of ADPi, DDD, KD, and ZTA until sororities were abolished in 1919. The ADPi chapter then moved its charter to Howard College (now Samford University).


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