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FuzzieAlum 09-17-2002 04:27 PM

Skull and Bones
 
http://www.msnbc.com/news/802773.asp?0dm=C19KV

OK, I realize there are a lot of conspiracy theorists out there, and I can accept that S&B has a lot of wealthy and influential members, but do they REALLY expect me to believe this kind of nonsense? When it comes down to it, S&B is just a fraternity. There's a long way between an old, secretive, hazing brotherhood and EVIL PLANS FOR WORLD DOMINATION.

MysticCat 09-17-2002 04:36 PM

Oh, Fuzzie, but plain old fraternities -- even of the wealthy -- just aren't nearly as much fun as groups of Illuminati that arrange the opium wars and the JFK assasination, now are they? (And actually, S&B isn't a fraternity; it is a senior society.) No, world domination via the New World Order is a lot more juicy.

Actually, reading through the whole link that you provided, it appears that the book in question debunks many of the better conspiracy legends. Might actually be a good read.

In the meantime, sometime when you have some time, check out the "information" at this site: The Order of Skull and Bones. It's always good for a chuckle or two.

FuzzieAlum 09-17-2002 05:00 PM

It seems like a hokey way to suck us into buying the book, though.

So, how can I get into the Illuminati? I didn't go Ivy, so is it too late for me? I have some great ideas for assassinating world leaders the US doesn't like! :D

Dionysus 09-17-2002 05:18 PM

I think you have to be a guy to get into the Illuminati.

FuzzieAlum 09-17-2002 05:27 PM

Guess I'll get the operation then. It'll answer the question I always wondered ... do they kick you out if you get a sex change?

;)

IvySpice 09-17-2002 05:30 PM

For heaven's sake. Surely the Ivy Club at Princeton and the Porcellian at Harvard control SOME of the corridors of global power. I mean, it's a big world.

Ivy

Peaches-n-Cream 09-17-2002 05:56 PM

I thought that Greekchat was the way to dominate the world. :p

texas*princess 09-17-2002 06:00 PM

lol Cream

I thought the Illuminati was just something in the Tomb Raider movie?

violets 09-17-2002 06:07 PM

Cream:
You are right as usual. I vote for you as Empress.


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They worshiped the goddess Eulogia, celebrated pirates, and plotted an underground conspiracy to dominate the world.
Wow, they celebrated pirates? Boy, I am scared. Do you think the Bonesman want to dominate the world so they can make everyone wear eye patches?

I think I'd be okay with that but I'd have a hard time keeping a parrot.

violets

texas*princess 09-17-2002 06:09 PM

http://www.plauder-smilies.de/laugh.gif lol violets

Shine 09-17-2002 06:27 PM

I actually find this stuff with the Skull & Bones, Masons, and the Illuminati quite fascinating.

I dunno though, they must be at least a little powerful and important, or they wouldn't be the subject of so many books, or movies with Angelina Jolie and Paul Walker, etc.

LOL

texas*princess 09-17-2002 06:34 PM

I agree Shine..


I wonder what they think of when/if they were see those movies?

Like did they sit back and laugh at the way they were portrayed because it was so far off, or did they think.. dang.. that's a pretty close portrayal?:)

Kind of makes me wonder :confused:

FuzzieAlum 09-17-2002 06:37 PM

No doubt there are some members who are powerful. I mean, if you're going to make a society composed of the 15 most connected and promising students at one of our nation's most elite universities, you're going to end up with some important members eventually. But that doesn't mean S&B is first on their agenda. I mean, I don't think Ronald Reagan, when elected, thought, "Ha ha, now I can finally implement my TKE plan to rule the world!" Nah, instead he probably figured, "Hey, I have something to brag about at alum BBQs."

Shine 09-17-2002 06:50 PM

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Originally posted by texas*princess
I agree Shine..


I wonder what they think of when/if they were see those movies?

Like did they sit back and laugh at the way they were portrayed because it was so far off, or did they think.. dang.. that's a pretty close portrayal?:)

Kind of makes me wonder :confused:

What I REALLY want to know...

How do you get the priveledge of being the "bones whore"?

Sign me up!

I know I want nothing more in my life than to be a sex slave to a bunch of future politicos and live in a tomb! :rolleyes:

KappaTarzan 09-17-2002 06:54 PM

i think the phi kappa sigma boys must be a little perturbed at this.. they are after all known as the skulls... :o

Optimist Prime 09-17-2002 07:20 PM

I thought they were skull and keyes????? God I am confused. I read in a different book that you have to be Illumnati just say they exist and you are part and then you'll be contacted.

Optimist Prime 09-17-2002 07:20 PM

I thought they were skull and keyes????? God I am confused. I read in a different book that you have to be Illumnati just say they exist and you are part and then you'll be contacted. Annuit Coeptis Novo Ordo Saeclarum.

shultzz 09-17-2002 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shine


What I REALLY want to know...

How do you get the priveledge of being the "bones whore"?

Sign me up!

I know I want nothing more in my life than to be a sex slave to a bunch of future politicos and live in a tomb! :rolleyes:

If you play your cards right, I'll initiate you.

sororitygirl2 09-17-2002 08:00 PM

No... Skull and Bones. There is another society called Scroll and Key, I think it is...

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Originally posted by Optimist Prime:
I thought they were skull and keyes????? God I am confused.

Optimist Prime 09-17-2002 08:14 PM

Why not just call her the skull slut? I want that book, I love a good work of fiction. :) And another thing...if the book is based on the rituals why does it say that no one has ever revealed them?>????

Shine 09-17-2002 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shultzz


If you play your cards right, I'll initiate you.

Just what I've always wanted! :D

lionlove 09-17-2002 08:24 PM

So the country is being run by guys who once masturbated in a coffin? This is the funniest thing I have read all day.

Shine 09-17-2002 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lionlove
So the country is being run by guys who once masturbated in a coffin? This is the funniest thing I have read all day.
Covered in mud, no less. :rolleyes:

The1calledTKE 09-17-2002 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lionlove
So the country is being run by guys who once masturbated in a coffin? This is the funniest thing I have read all day.
Don't forget the have girls in there now since the early 90's.:p

Optimist Prime 09-17-2002 09:19 PM

I think the boneswhore is a corpse.. Haha they would never know.

theta sig agd 09-17-2002 09:37 PM

LOL!!! You guys are hilarious!!!:D

Just have to ask...if they are so powerful do they monitor this site and know we are reading and talking about them?

....I wonder if there are any of us Greek Chatters who are members of this elite secret senior society????

ebayfan 09-17-2002 10:08 PM

Who Rules the World?
 
After reading the New York Times Article (ad naudeum), I discovered that the fraternity pin collectors actually rule the world. They all have (each) a skull and bones badge (the one with #322 on it) and they light candles and hold secret rituals wearing the pin. They wear it next to their own fraternity or sorority pin and they pass around the pins of members who they burned at the stake in Salem! (they then donate those pins, of course!)

:eek:

ebayfan

SAE1955 09-17-2002 10:21 PM

im wondering if they have a dude that just wasn't a go-getter or just didn't have any ambition, or maybe he was just a dumbass and stuck him down in the kitchen and made him the cook or clean after raging parties. Everyone has people like that in their house.

Optimist Prime 09-17-2002 10:27 PM

Salem witch trials are nothing to joke about. :(

33girl 09-17-2002 11:32 PM

Yeah Billy, those Salem witch trial jokes burn me up. (Badump-bump.)

I thought the Illuminati was a Tupac album. :p

Rudey 09-17-2002 11:50 PM

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Originally posted by 33girl
Yeah Billy, those Salem witch trial jokes burn me up. (Badump-bump.)

LOL

-Rudey
--I live for jokes like this

CC1GC 09-17-2002 11:52 PM

For a society so consumed with secrecy, it's hard to believe they have a website with contact info and a members only section...

www.tne.org

sororitygirl2 09-18-2002 12:00 AM

Uh, that Website isn't for Skull and Bones...

DWAlphaGam 09-18-2002 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by violets

Wow, they celebrated pirates? Boy, I am scared. Do you think the Bonesman want to dominate the world so they can make everyone wear eye patches?

I think I'd be okay with that but I'd have a hard time keeping a parrot.

violets

LOL
That cracked me up, too. Arrrrrgh, me matey!

wptw 09-18-2002 11:23 AM

Just to clear up any confusion...
 
Skull and Bones – Yale senior society, 1832.
They are known as “bonesmen”, not “skulls”. So the Phi Kaps have nothing to worry about. Skull & Bones predates Phi Kappa Sigma by nearly 2 decades anyway.

Scroll and Keys – Yale senior society, 1842.

Theta Nu Epsilon (aka Skull & Keys) – Wesleyan sophomore society, 1870. Later to become a national fraternity.

It’s easy to get confused about secret societies. There’s also Book & Snake, Corpse & Coffin, Coffin & Keys, Skull & Serpent, Sword & Sandals, Shield & Trident, Quill & Dagger, Fire & Skoal, Casque & Gauntlet, Wheel & Chain, Cap & Skull, and probably a bunch of others I’ve forgotten.

wptw

SAE1955 09-18-2002 08:13 PM

how bout dick & hand?

Optimist Prime 09-18-2002 10:08 PM

so I'm confused. Is ONE coed? I like that thing on the website though, ARe you ONE?

sweetie adpi 09-18-2002 10:15 PM

whips and chains, handcuffs.... oh sorry i was confused...

It’s easy to get confused about secret societies. There’s also Book & Snake, Corpse & Coffin, Coffin & Keys, Skull & Serpent, Sword & Sandals, Shield & Trident, Quill & Dagger, Fire & Skoal, Casque & Gauntlet, Wheel & Chain, Cap & Skull, and probably a bunch of others I’ve forgotten.

wptw 09-19-2002 09:48 AM

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so I'm confused. Is ONE coed?
The answer is... sort of.

Right now there are two groups of people who are in the process of reviving Theta Nu Epsilon. Both groups claim they are the rightful heirs of TNE and therefore have the authority to call themselves TNE and to start chapters. Both groups say the other group are imposters. Add to this mix all the various independant chapters that have been running autonomously for decades, each with their own rules. It's a mess, which is nothing new if you study the splintered history of TNE.

Anyway, one of these two groups has started coed chapters. The other group obviously thinks this is an abomination. So the answer to your question depends on which group you believe is the true TNE.

That's why the website says "are you ONE?". You'd think it's a clever rhetorical question. But they REALLY don't know anymore who is ONE and who isn't!

Will the real TNE please stand up!


wptw

CC1GC 09-19-2002 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wptw


The answer is... sort of.

Right now there are two groups of people who are in the process of reviving Theta Nu Epsilon. Both groups claim they are the rightful heirs of TNE and therefore have the authority to call themselves TNE and to start chapters. Both groups say the other group are imposters. Add to this mix all the various independant chapters that have been running autonomously for decades, each with their own rules. It's a mess, which is nothing new if you study the splintered history of TNE.

Anyway, one of these two groups has started coed chapters. The other group obviously thinks this is an abomination. So the answer to your question depends on which group you believe is the true TNE.

That's why the website says "are you ONE?". You'd think it's a clever rhetorical question. But they REALLY don't know anymore who is ONE and who isn't!

Will the real TNE please stand up!


wptw

ahhh right on....so is your group the imposter or the real-deal?


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