Four ASU GLOs & campus VP star in porno
 

Frats star in ASU porn film

The Arizona Republic
Aug. 21, 2002 22:00:00

A pornographic video shot at four Arizona State University fraternity houses and featuring a student vice president has prompted an investigation by administrators who fear it could undermine long-standing efforts to rid the campus of its party school reputation.


The professionally produced video, Shane's World #29: Frat Row Scavenger Hunt 3, features ASU fraternity members performing sexual acts with porn stars.

An ASU staff member told university officials about the video in early July.

"There are clear violations of . . . the student code of conduct," said Virgil Renzulli, ASU vice president of public affairs. "There will be an ongoing investigation into any individuals involved. It's inappropriate for fraternities to permit these kind of things. You can party, but this goes beyond that. This is misconduct."

Bob Soza, dean of student life, said the campus judicial affairs office is investigating Theta Chi, Sigma Phi Epsilon, Kappa Sigma and Sigma Nu, a fraternity already serving a two-year suspension for hazing, for their involvement in the video.

"It goes without saying that this type of behavior has no place in the university setting," Soza said. "(Former ASU President Lattie) Coor in his tenure provided enormous leadership in establishing ASU as a Research 1 university, developing the honors college and undergraduate research. Does this kind of incident cause harm to the institution? Absolutely. It is not tolerated or accepted as part of the standards set by previous or current administrations."

Not an ordinary scavenger hunt

The video apparently was shot last September, when a Shane's World crew pulled up in front of the various houses unannounced in a Hummer limousine and asked members to be part of a sexual scavenger hunt.

The crew, split into two teams of two women each, participated in sex acts with fraternity members to earn points. The team with the most points won the hunt.

Fraternity members never participated in sexual intercourse with the women, but they used sex toys and other objects. Action went from house to house and took place in bedrooms, living rooms, the limo and poolside.

The video even films a dare on a public campus lawn and one in front of Manzanita Residence Hall.

The video is one of the most frequently rented videos in local adult stores.

"It is very popular. We even had to special order more copies," said Alicia Henry, manager of Fascinations at 16428 N. 32nd St. "We get a lot of college age kids in here asking for it, but we get a lot of older men, too."

Student leader plays a role

Sigma Nu member Brian Buck, 23, executive vice president of the Associated Students of ASU, is one of the first participants and is featured in a shower scene.

"I'm not apologizing for anything I did," Buck said. "The way I see it is 200 fraternity guys having a good time. It's not like we planned it, it just happened."

Buck, who recently began his student government duties, said he is not afraid the incident will turn into a scandal.

"It's not an impeachable offense," he said. "I wasn't in office when it happened. It's not like this is Harvard. I can't see ASU students getting too upset about it.

"The only thing I care about is my family. How do you tell your family you were in a porno? They don't pay for me to go to school to be in pornos."

Now, it's just a fading memory

ASASU President Mike Leingang agreed that the video probably won't affect Buck's elected position.

"He (Buck) has put all this behind him and is ready to do the best job he can do representing the students," said Leingang, whose Theta Chi fraternity also participated in the video. "I don't think the (ASASU) senate will want to make a big deal of this."

Leingang said that he did not participate in the video and that the Theta Chi members who did are no longer at ASU.

ASU's student code of conduct includes clauses against the unauthorized use of university property and sexual misconduct on campus or within organizations.

The code applies to all student organizations and individuals, and punishment ranges from probation to expulsion to a lifetime ban from campus.

The video attempted to prevent identification by blacking out participants' eyes and fraternity logos.

The judicial affairs office hopes to wrap up the investigation within the next four to six weeks. Any appeals made would then go to the university hearing board and could take an additional 20 to 30 days.

Get it at Mr. Cherry
 

http://www.mrcherry.com/shanesworld/...ted_format=vhs

$29.95

I'm a little confused...
 

This isn't an offense that can lead to the guys' losing their pins? If it's not, does this mean that there's a double-standard that says a sorority woman risks her membership by posing in Playboy, but a fraternity man has nothing to lose by being in a porno?

I'm not trying to start anything, I'm just wondering...

I think when TKE's USC chapter allowed a porno film to be filmed in their house IHQ gave them a years probabtion. I know they when after the porno company for using TKE '"images" such at the crest and actually usuing TKE's name in the video. None of the guys particpated in any sex acts though. I believe the punishment fit the crime because they didn't clear the use of the house by IHQ.

Wow...that is just pathetic.

"I'm not apologizing for anything I did," Buck said. "The way I see it is 200 fraternity guys having a good time. It's not like we planned it, it just happened."

I hope his Nationals punish him just for being an idiot.

As an Arizona State student I found out about this film a while ago, and I have to say that it is typical of most of our fraternities to think this is amusing and smile and brag about it. Sigma Nu was considered the top fraternity at ASU until they were suspended for hazing, the same semester the porno was shot at there house. There is actually a page on the Shanes world website that shows a Sigma Nu wearing his letters standing naked with one of the girls. Also this past year another fraternity was kicked off for another serious matter. I love being in a sorority here and I do love the fraternity guys because they are funny, aside from there crazy habits. But what do you expect from a school whose philanthropies include skit nights where girls wear as little as possible and pour water over each other, (or chocolate sauce), in order to win the most points from these fraternity guys.

You're right, sundevil2000!! What other school has skits banned because the girls can't stop acting like they are starrng in lesbian porns just to win the philanthropy? This school already hates greek life and probably wants all that land that the fraternity houses are on, this is only going to help them. This has not been a good year at all for ASU greeks:(

I met some ASU Sigma Nu's at our Grand Chapter. Seemed like nice enough guys. Hopefully this will serve as a catalyst for positive reform.

Greeks need to know that their very existance depends upon ALL of the groups on their campus behaving as their founders would have expected.

ASU's greek life, once again made a joke out of.

It's a sad day for our greek system.

Just sad.

:(

If you can't tell your grandma or your parents then you shouldn't be doing it.
I thought we just saw an article that frat boys make good grownups? I guess not all of them do!!!:(

who am i to judge?
 

that doesn't sound so bad. could be worse. that Shane person could pull up in a stretch Hummer and film it.

while it seems scandalous, now, it's not all that bad. may be silly, or poor judgement, immaturity, heat-of-the-moment type thing. they did some crude things on camera that reflect badly on the system. when they get older, their kids might run into a copy of the tapes...

"I was young, stupid, and I needed the money."

Re: Four ASU GLOs & campus VP star in porno
 

His parents must be SOOOOOOO proud! :rolleyes:

And Hootie, my darlin', he is apparently no gentleman!

Ooh, I want a peak!

I ran into Brian Buck at the Student Activities fair tonight.

Needless to say I had trouble keeping a straight face.

*sigh*

Ladies don't bring Fraternity standards into this.

Don't try to say "well women's groups punish for this, male groups should also" There is no double standard here.

There is no double standard because men don't have an unwritten rule about this. We may never have had one.

If you want to ostrasize/suspend/expell your Sisters-For-Life for being human and liberated, thats all on you. But you have no call asking us to be hypocrites, judgemental, or limit someone else's Right to Free Expression. LOL

Liking sex and have more partners than the exec board . . . get expelled.

Like to party and get wild more than the exec board or the standards committee. . . get expelled.

Make money showing your body in Playboy . . . get expelled. LOL

Make money showing your or part naked body in a movie, PG R X whatever . . . get expelled.

Although I fully realize that this will differ from chapter to chapter. Where one chapter would climb on a a high horse and expell you, another more sophisticated chapter would just laugh it off.

:rolleyes:

(Edited to add smileys)

Sigma Phi Epsilon is now the third fraternity at ASU to get suspended from campus in less than 6 months. It sucks that these were the largest most popular chapters on campus and now there gone:(

Re: I'm a little confused...
 

No kidding i was thinking the same thing..

I don't know about all fraternities out there, but I would have thought that most fraternities claimed to be "gentlemen" and by even looking at some of the inter/national websites of fraternities, it is clear that being "gentleman-ly" is one of the things some chapters pride themselves in. If it's in your fraternity's standards to act so outlandishly and not be held responsible for your actions I might start to wonder what that fraternity is all about. I'm not insulting any organization in any way, and I can understand some people to want to be "human" or "liberated" however, I am sure you might understand that your actions speak tremendously loud and might also have a negative impact on your organization - whether it be your chapter, or the entire inter/national organization.

If that's the way you want to represent your fraternity and your fraternity's "ideals", more power to you, but I would personally have more respect for the organization than to do something like that knowing that the organization would have to suffer for the acts of a few.

Add the Phi-Sigs to that list now, too. :(

That makes me :(

I went to my first frat party at Phi Sig, and had a few good friends in Sigma Nu.

Are you guys still on-campus? I've heard otherwise. I thought your sisterhood was filled with amazing women, and I was sad to hear that you guys closed. :(

Too many good greek orgs gone from ASU. :mad:

Shine ~

sundevil2000 is an ADPi and they are still on campus at ASU. You are probably thinking of Sigma Kappa.

Durr...

I dunno why, but I keep mixing her up with sigkapsundevil.

I did get the sorority right, though. Still sad they had to go.

I'm praying all the others have a strong Recruitment this week. :)

Just to update you all, the front of our state press announced today that Theta Chi is the fourth fraternity asked to leave campus. They are going to try to appeal it so were hoping for the best. Our Greek Community is falling apart already with the loss of 3 other fraternities that were huge, we REALLY dont need to lose anymore.

That is sad. There are a lot of great guys in that Theta Chi chapter. I heard that the Theta Chis in the video were seniors and have all graduated too. This really is an example of the few spoiling it for the many. Because of the choices those men made that night, the rest of the chapter must live with the consequences. :(
I also heard that the new ASU president has it on his agenda to rid the campus of all greek life - it looks like he's on his way with a little help from "Shane's World". :(

No. I want brothers there.

I just wanted to say that I am very sad to hear about Phi Sig and Theta Chi being asked to leave ASU. I know the men who were involved in the porn. They are good people despite the poor decisions they have made. It makes me angry to know that even though they have all graduated, their fraternities are still being punished for it. My best memories of ASU have been with the brothers of Theta Chi and Phi Sig. Luau Blowout, barndance, black and grey, music awards and PSOlympics....its sad to know these events have all come to a permanent end. I suggest that we support Theta Chi by emailing ASU's new president and asking that they be reinstated! It's the least we can do to keep ASU's greek system strong.

I don't think it's within the rights of a PUBLIC institution to set these kinds of guidelines for organizations. If I wanted to start the porno club at my school -- that's my right as an American Citizen. These chapters need to get some ACLU attorneys over there to help them out. Only their HQ's have the right (in this case) to revoke their charter.

MTV came to ASU on Friday to film students about the whole porn scandal. It came at such a bad time seeing how it was Parents Weekend. Also, they are making a new cartoon based on Brian Buck, I think its called Buck Wild. This whole situation will never go away.

Old old thread, just had to say that :D Sigma Nu is back on campus at ASU.

And this is the first thing you want to be associated with?

Yeah man this is a REALLY embarassing part of our history at ASU.

I can't believe Brian Buck said something like that......had I been busted I would have pulled a huge mea culpa. This is disgraceful. Our letters on a porn site? Wow...that is bad and makes us look like a bunch of degenerates.

You would think something like that would warrant a White Star Expulsion...but apparently this guy is still a badge holding brother (I just checked our directory).

It was a LONG time ago. Everyone associated is gone. I don't condone the behavior, and am disappointed that nationals didn't expel Buck.

It's not about fraternities' individual rules so much as the way society sees a double standard. The reason given in most sororities for taking the badge of a woman if it's related to behavior is that she might damage the chapter's reputation and hurt their rush. And this can be very true, depending on the campus. I think it's unfortunate, and I don't entirely agree with it, BUT that's currently what has to be done if sororities are to exist as they are today, I think. It's a double standard in society. Definitely an issue not limited to Greeks. If a girl's chapter had a porno made at their house I am very willing to bet that they would have their charter pulled in an instant. At the least the punishment would be more stringent than a year's probation. Reason? It could hurt the sorority. And that's a legitimate reason. It certainly could. I personally also think it's about respect. I personally know that not all sisters have the same values, but one sister's actions reflect on the whole, so that should be taken into consideration.

Here, though, I think it's still about society. Would I ever appear in a porno? No way. But do I think that in principle someone should be punished for something that isn't illegal, just considered very distasteful by those in charge? No. But that's life. The actions of one reflect badly on the whole, so action needs to be taken to reassure the public that the organization (and school) don't actually support the decision to appear in the porno. Again, society.

sigma nu has been back on campus for sometime now. but this happened so long ago, no one at ASU's greek community ever talks about it. although it did do irreparable greek life here.