Learned on GC
 

What are some Cool things you learned on GC? I've only been on for a couple o' months an' I'd like to share some of the more interesting things I've heard


*TKE is actually not the biggest Frat out there (contrary to what people whom I know in TKE had me believe), but I forgot what the biggest was :( it's on a thread on here somewheres.
* Many Frats were started by Freemasons, and the rituals adopted from masonic rituals.
* Many Sororities can't have houses due to local laws prohibiting more than a set amount of womyn from living in a house. Otherwise it's labeled a brothel.
*Masonic Organizations worldwide donate $3 mill to charity daily (I still dunno if I should believe it or not, but there are a LOT of masonic organizations). I REALLY wanna find out what the statistic is for how much greek organizations contribute yearly!
* Many frats out there, especially in the NorthEast, don't have houses per se. Many have just an appt. that some o' the brothers rent, or sections of the dorms, or school sponsored "greek housing" which can suck. many have none at all.
* People love to start flame wars.
* Moderators love to pull posts with flame wars.
* There are so many cool rush/social events out there that I wanna try.
etc.

I was just wonderin' if anyone else shares my enthusiasm. Or if you think those are at all noteworthy lessons from GC. What are some of the cool things you learned???

i guess the most important thing i've learned is that i'm not alone. we tend to get caught up in our chapter, and forget that we are just one person out of millions of actives and alums. it's nice to know that other chapters have the same problems as ours, and that they work them out just as we do. it's also put me into contact with other sigma kappas, who i normally wouldn't have any contact with at all. though they're in different chapters we share that "mystic bond" and it just makes me smile :)

What I've learned on GC

Nothing I can remeber. Oh...I learned that people in Texas can find me. ;)

That brothel thing is a complete urban legend.

Actually, it isn't. I don't think it's actually called the "brothel law", but here in Arizona it is on the books that 6 or more unrelated women living in a house is illegal.

i've learned a lot here, like all the weird things the southern people do (no offense) but i just can't imagine rush being so... structred. I realize how lax our chapter really has it. (our fingernails don't match) it is cool, there are some great ideas of how to help you house get stronger thats really cool. oh yea- and people admit their house isn't perfect. lord knows we all need help at times....rambling sorry!
Tau love and mine
Lil E

She's right...Here in PA, if 5 or more unrelated women live together, we're breaking the law.

From www.snopes.com (sorry this is long, but I can't make a direct link):
Origins: This mistaken belief has been recorded since the 1960s and is probably a great deal older than that. It's possible its origin lies in a mental confluence of half-remembered tidbits about old time "blue laws" mixed with a healthy dollop of badly-parsed newer input about zoning laws adopted by various communities in more contemporary times. Short and sweet, if any so-called "brothel laws" anywhere tie a building's classification as a bordello to the number of occupants, we've yet to find documentation that proves this.

Some municipalities do indeed have zoning laws prohibiting more than a specified number of non-family members (male or female) from living together, but not even in those cases would a household in violation of those codes be labeled a brothel. Brothels earn such designations solely on the basis of what goes on in them, not upon how many women inhabit particular buildings.

Even in communities that carry such housing restrictions on their books, sororities and fraternities are exempted from them. The thrust of such laws is to set limits on how many people may reasonably inhabit what were meant to be single-family dwellings, not to enjoin those who are living in more communal settings in buildings meant for such purposes. Were such laws to apply to those latter forms of housing, local YWCAs would have been shut down and padlocked, as would a variety of nurses' residences.

Collegians have been explaining the lack of sorority houses on various campuses through this flawed factlet for many a year. Richard Roeper noted this legend in 1994, calling it "the most widespread piece of university folklore making the rounds" and estimating from entries on collegiate bulletin boards that it was being told on at least 100 campuses.

Men view the notion of large numbers of women living together as strangely erotic, mentally envisioning a veritable candy store of comely and available sex partners, each of them bedding down for the night virginally clutching her teddy bear close to her babydoll-clad, pulsating 38-24-36 nakedness (which they wouldn't if they'd ever been locked in a women's dorm overnight -- nothing kills rampant sexual fantasy more quickly than a cold eyeful of reality.) Add to the mix the "college girl" element (young, nubile flesh) and throw in the "sorority girl" detail (presumed promiscuity), and it's easy to see why this tidbit about brothel zoning has been so stubbornly promulgated.

Barbara "daydream believers" Mikkelson

Last updated: 6 August 2002


If AZ is different, I'd like to see the state code that supports it. I am willing to bet there are women's shelters in the state, for example, or a hotel (which unless it's tiny has more than 6 women there) - or for that matter I bet there are dormitories in AZ with more than six women in them.

For that matter, here are sorority houses in Pennsylvania
http://dolphin.upenn.edu/~panhel/ ("All Panhellenic Council Chapters have Chapter House") and Arizona http://www.union.arizona.edu/csil/gr...ity_living.php ("Many of our sororities have chapter houses, an aspect of sorority life that distinguishes the University of Arizona from many other campuses").

I apologize if this came off this way, but I wasn't trying to discredit what you were saying. As it was explained to me when I rushed, and by Panhel, and ASU officials, there is a county or state law stating that 6 or more unrelated women living together in a HOUSE is illegal.

And it only applies to houses where there isn't direct supervision by some legal management licesnced and approved by the state. Women's shelters, hotels, and residence halls are all licened and have people like directors, managers and RA's living there or working there at all times.

I go to ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY, which is a completely different school, in a completely different county from UA. Maybe it is a Maricopa County law and not a Pima County law. All I know is that due to a LAW, our sororities have lived in special on-campus sorority housing since at least the 60's.

But unfortunately, unlike you, I don't have time to research obscure laws and links about sorority houses.

Don't get so defensive next time.

I never said it was a BROTHEL law, either.

FuzzieAlum, this law is actually on the books in PA. If you don't believe me, check out www.dumblaws.com.

1. It is illegal to have over 16 women live in a house
together because that constitutes a brothel. However
up to 120 men can live together, without breaking the
law.

yep
 

Yeah, Ariesrising
I heard that for the first time here too... I mean, we always call ourselves a "frat" but then I hear "Why would you call your fraternity a 'frat'; Would you call your country a cunt?"
I suppose it's regional.

There was a whole thread about the Brothel laws and greek housing. Seems to me like it's quite valid.

PS I still wonder if anyone has the stats as to how much greek orgs contribute to charity yearly.

Re: yep
 

LOL, exactly. I can just imagine someone say "Ooh, I just love my c*nt! It's big, free, and for anyone who wants to get in!" Or "This is the best c*nt in the world, it's good enough to die for!"

Thanks Eagle chick...and as for my school...

"Maricopa County : No more than six girls may live in any house. "

Nope, I'm actually like edumacated and shit.
;)

You're welcome, Shine!

I took the original posts to mean (although they did not state it) they were state laws. Clearly they are not, since there are sorority houses in those states. I didn't say they were the same school. If the dumblaws.com site is correct, that law is certainly not being enforced.

If an RA satisfies the requirement for licensed supervision, there are I believe sorority houses with school-sponsored RAs, and I don't see why Arizona could not have those. After all, many "house moms" aren't members of that org - so having an RA wouldn't be much different.

It's true, I don't have a life. No doubt I'm very sad about that from time to time. But it does give me time to do a lot of reading and research. I just checked out the Pennsylvania code, for example, (www.pacode.com), and could not find any statute relating to that. I looked up a large variety of keywords and could find nothing to that effect. Hey, it beats working.

It is possible that there are county or city laws prohibiting that many women living together (or any variation thereof). Unfortunately, I have just enough of a life not to have the time to look up every county and city in every state to see if somewhere that is on the books.

However, I believe I've done enough research to believe that there is no law anywhere in the US prohibiting sorority houses. If there is evidence to the contrary, I'd be curious to see it, although of course I understand not everyone has the time and or energy to care what I believe. My point is, I have seen no evidence to the contrary, and until I do, I will continue to believe (and publicly assert) there are no such laws.

Ok, whatever floats your boat, Fuzzie.

I wish this site would have printed the text of the law, instead of just affirming the story. I think if pressed this law (if it exists) wouldn't stand up in court...any more than the "no selling cars on Sunday" would. Cause heaven knows that happens!

Now as far as lame ass zoning rules, those are very real, and do prevent Greek (or any other 4 person plus) housing...but they're equal opportunity offenders. The reason the guys might have housing and the girls not is that 1) the guys were at the school longer, i.e. it didn't start coed, and 2) there might have been rules that the girls had to live on campus while the guys could move off. Penn State is a great example.

Pennsylvania ladies, if you want a sorority house, and you're not prevented by zoning, don't let this "law" stop you. It's just a tool a lot of administrators perpetuate because they don't want you to have Greek houses.

To give that site the benefit of the doubt, it does appear to take verification very seriously. (After all, there are a million lists of "facts" that go around the Internet that no one ever bothers to verify.) For quite a few things the site cited code, and they have a nice "pay for verification" system.

But it did say they were quite backed up - it is entirely possible someone has sent them verification information and it simply hasn't been added yet. That said, I'll believe in the law when the do that, but like 33girl said, it's unlikely anyone is going to care to enforce it, or that if they tried, the law would stand up in court. I think these rumors are a great excuse for complacency on the part of the schools - as long as the students don't question why they don't have houses, they don't have to do anything about it.

Re: Re: yep
 

too late, I quoted it

I just can't imagine our immigration problems were word to get around that America was free c*nt


I think GC has a lot to offer us 'cause we're all part of a larger greek community. I'm still interested to hear what kinds of things my fellow greeks learned on GC

I have learned a few things on GC:

-that I have great sisters all around the country (PsychTau, mmcline, etc).
-that I could meet so many great brothers/sisters from different organizations!!
-its sometimes better not to get into a flame war!! (Sorry about that 33girl and FuzzieAlum!!!)
-that the South is a great place to live, work and play!
-and finally that the South does rush a little differently than in the Northeast.

:)
Yah, I've finally learned not to argue with pin collectors ... took me a while.

Anyway, the best thing I've gotten on GC is the ability to meet people from lots of different orgs. There were many GLOs that I had heard the names of but never been exposed to, and it's been great to see women and men from those groups representing their organizations very well, and to learn more about their organization.

Like many other people, I'd have so say it's been fascinating hearing about rush at other schools! I think I am probably not the only one who assumed that things were done elsewhere like they were at my college. The longer I'm on here, the more I have learned what is a local rule vs. an NPC rule. Much of this diversity impresses me, although some of it doesn't - it makes me sad to hear about a school with rampant hazing or where Greek life is fairing badly. I would like for all of us to have strong chapters and systems.

Well, is seemingly right!:cool:

Yes we as GCers take this site very damn seriousally!

It is an, outlet that we can all talk about and expess our opinions!
Yes!
The Moderator Corner is all secret as we how have been deemed! Why,because of posts and the way we do it is researved for us! Why, Da then look at the following!
We as A Group look at ceratain Posts to see what is going on!

We as a GROUP make sure that WE are Not Totally wrong before there are Changes!

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Re: Re: Re: yep
 

Well, that kind of falls under "for anyone who wants to get in". :p