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mtvresearcher 07-29-2002 11:21 AM

Mtv Researcher Wants You
 
MTV's new show MADE wants to give you a complete lifestyle makeover! You will meet with a team of experts who will give you a crash training course and help you accomplish whatever it takes for you to achieve your goal! We'll document your progress, as well as get the opinion of your friends & family along the way.

We are looking for people who are pledging a sorority in the Fall, and have never done so before. Ideally, you are new at school or perhaps you just have always dreamed of pledging but need some help.

IF YOU’RE BETWEEN 17 AND 25 AND THIS IS YOU-TELL US ABOUT IT! Explain what your goal is, why you think you can make it, and why you need us to help you reinvent yourself. We’ll give you the tools to pursue your dream-—the coach, the trainer, the tutor, whatever—-and you’ll do the rest.

EMAIL YOUR STORY and be sure to include your name, age, location and contact information to made@mtvstaff.com
IN THE SUBJECT LINE, TELL US WHAT YOU WANT TO BE “MADE” INTO.

AOX81 07-29-2002 11:31 AM

ummmmm, no!

Honeykiss1974 07-29-2002 11:33 AM

This doesn't sound bad, except.............for the pledging part. how about just the life makeover and that's it?
:p

Kevlar281 07-29-2002 11:49 AM

Re: Mtv Researcher Wants You
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mtvresearcher
You will meet with a team of experts who will give you a crash training course and help you accomplish whatever it takes for you to achieve your goal!
Could you help me reach my goal of cooperate domination by succeeding in a hostile takeover of Viacom and all it’s subsidiaries?

damasa 07-29-2002 11:52 AM

I don't understand what pledging would have to do with the makeover part?

"We will help make you into something as long as you are pledging!"

Sounds like the next episode of sorority life or whatever the hell the name of that show on MTV is.

Kevlar281 07-29-2002 12:00 PM

I just had a thought how would most organizations react if a prospect showed up to a rush event with a MTV camera crew?

Colleenie 07-29-2002 12:16 PM

I'm pretty sure NO cameras are allowed during recruitment events. And why would you need a life makeover to get into a sorority? I'd much rather recruit a woman who is true to herself and not trying to be someone else that MTV has "MADE" her into.

JMUduke 07-29-2002 12:20 PM

ridiculous...mtv sucks and they need to put their nose up someone elses ass...

AKA2D '91 07-29-2002 12:35 PM

The responses...
 
LMAO.

You all are something else.

:cool:

Dionysus 07-29-2002 12:37 PM

Sure, how much will YOU PAY me to do it?

damasa 07-29-2002 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dionysus
Sure, how much will YOU PAY me to do it?
Pay? MTV won't pay you! They will just give you IKEA galore and make everything seem all peachy and perfect :)

MTV went from something fun, a television program that let people watch music videos for fun. Now you turn on MTV, there is never any music....too mainstream, it's all about making that dollar!

SigmaChiCard 07-29-2002 12:59 PM

exactly, how do they get paid showing video after video....it's been so damn perversed since it's beginnings, but Mtv2 seems relatively true to itself...but does anyone really want to see TRL and whatever other programming they show back to back...that karioke show? it's miserable.

DeltAlum 07-29-2002 01:04 PM

Sounds to me like they're having trouble getting any sorority to cooperate after "Sorority Life," and this is a way to get into a chapter by the back door.

These guys are not dumb, and also not always ethical.

Problem is that hundreds or thousands of prospective freshman girls will think this is the neatest thing sinced canned beer.

Richard(SNU) 07-29-2002 01:16 PM

Sounds to me like they're having trouble getting any sorority to
cooperate after "Sorority Life," and this is a way to get into a
chapter by the back door.


Yep, I'd say that's EXACTLY what's going on.

Perhaps the local organizations are closing ranks with the nationals
on this whole "MTV Issue", and MTV is looking for other ways to play
the "Greek Angle".

Would you care to comment one way or another on this, Mr. or
Ms. "mtvresearcher" ???

One more thing: We now know for a fact that MTV knows about this
forum.

kddani 07-29-2002 01:18 PM

Seems that "mtvresearcher" is a one time poster, thank god! Maybe if he/she read any of the other thread they'd realize the animosity many posters of this board have towards mtv and the sorority life debacle.

shadokat 07-29-2002 02:10 PM

Obviously they're saying that they'll "make someone over" for their sorority recruitment. New haircut, makeup, etc. They probably want younger people doing different things, and this is one thing a woman between 18-24 would do! I'd love a makeover, but then again, what 28 year old is rushing! :)

DWAlphaGam 07-29-2002 02:13 PM

Re: Mtv Researcher Wants You
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mtvresearcher
IF YOU’RE BETWEEN 17 AND 25 AND THIS IS YOU-TELL US ABOUT IT!
Between 17 and 25? I'd say that age range is stretching it a bit. If you're 25, you'd probably be more likely to be looking into alumna initiation, which is not as camera-friendly as collegiate recruitment.

I agree with Colleenie about no film crews being allowed into recruitment events, too. Every NPC organization has been told that they are not to cooperate with MTV, so I see this idea fizzling out pretty quickly.

FuzzieAlum 07-29-2002 02:20 PM

I can see it now ... this chick gets this total makeover and is so excited. Then the school tells MTV, NO, you cannot film rush parties. MTV gets upset. So they decide not to film rush, just find out where she went. Well the chapters get wind that she was "that MTV makeover chick" and they all cut her ... so what can MTV report? That the makeover was a failure?

NatalieCD 07-29-2002 02:43 PM

Hey
 
Why does it have to be a sorority, why can't it be a fraternity? That would be more interesting, IF ANYTHING! MTV is ridiculous.

XOMichelle 07-29-2002 03:20 PM

Ok, weird, but test post. I can't get this signature to work!!! How do you all get yours to be colored?

RedRoseSAI 07-29-2002 03:27 PM

Re: Mtv Researcher Wants You
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mtvresearcher
MTV's new show MADE wants to give you a complete lifestyle makeover!
I'll do it if you give me a rhinestone Greek 101 T-shirt and an IKEA Poang chair. :P

AGDPrincess70 07-29-2002 03:36 PM

Re: Re: Mtv Researcher Wants You
 
Quote:

Originally posted by RedRoseSAI


I'll do it if you give me a rhinestone Greek 101 T-shirt and an IKEA Poang chair. :P

Only if it's that red and gray one that the pledgemaster wears in every goddam episode

DRau 07-29-2002 04:15 PM

Congratulations MTV!

You have officially hit a new low....

chideltjen 07-29-2002 04:30 PM

yeesss.... let's just reinforce all the sterotypes that sorority girls are shallow and only care about looks of the PNMs. please... gimmie a break.

i agree with NatalieCD... we need a "Fraternity Life" or something...

Chop1228 07-29-2002 04:37 PM

If MTV wants something to film, why don't they come to our university and film 22 guys collecting 102,000 pounds of food for the North American Food Drive? Or better yet they could come to our school and film any of the greek organizations doing what they do best- which is helping others. When will MTV learns that greek life is not about fronting for rush, or one persons make over for rush -but about brotherhood/sisterhood and their connections with the communitys that they all benefit. None of this self centered MTV bull....Ohh wait MTV doesnt want to see a fraternity (multiple houses for that matter) getting along and helping in the community, they want conflict and drama. When MTV wants to film somthing worthwhile -I say give me a call...I'll be waiting.

dzrose93 07-29-2002 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chop1228
When MTV wants to film somthing worthwhile -I say give me a call...I'll be waiting.
and waiting, and waiting, and waiting... ;)

AlphaXiAshley 07-29-2002 07:57 PM

thank you!
 
i totally agree and i think MTV should try and put somthing worthwhile on the air everyonce and awhile, I along withmany of my friends have just lost respect for the station as the "voice of our generation" it has turned into the voice of business men trying to stay young and hip while making tons of money. I think it could be a great thing for the greeks and MTV if they were to show a True Life or somthing with a Fraternityor Sorority, and show them doing thier philanthopys, maybe even greek week and such, show every one we CAN get along and we DO help out while still haivng fun!
ashes

DeltAlum 07-29-2002 08:57 PM

Re: thank you!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AlphaXiAshley
I along withmany of my friends have just lost respect for the station as the "voice of our generation" it has turned into the voice of business men trying to stay young and hip while making tons of money.
While your comment about making money has always been true -- that's what businesses do, and MTV is a business -- It appears to me that they have become the "voice of the teenybopper generation."

The shows are just crass. Or am I missisng some sense of social value?

Then again, the teens probably have more disposable income than the poor college students, so the target demographic may make sense for them.

AlphaXiAshley 07-29-2002 09:34 PM

i dont think so
 
i hate to have to disagree... but im only 18yo and most of my friends are between 15-20 with the emphisis on the lower end. and i would have to say that that age demographic is who are out buying everything... and most 15-16yo's i know right now are sick of mtv and watch M2 or Much, because it tends to pretain to our likes and desires alot more.

UMgirl 07-30-2002 01:15 AM

The only channels who would probably do a REAL depiction of sorority and/or fraternity life is PBS or the History channel. And how many people between the ages of 16-25 really watch those channels?
My second votes for channels would be A&E, TLC and Lifetime. But Lifetime only if Linda Gray, Meredith Baxter or Judith Light could host it :p

texas*princess 07-30-2002 01:27 AM

Re-invent yourself?
 
No one should have to "reinvent" themselves to pledge a sorority. They should accept a person for who they are... at least my sorority does.

James 07-30-2002 01:41 AM

I was hoping some of y'all could help me figure out some things . . .

Especially given that many of you seem to believe the show is a "train Wreck", completely inaccurate, and want a show from PBS or some such to cover it.

ITs funny, I thought Sorority life is pretty real . . . And certainly some of the sorority girls that have posted have found it to be fairly accurate.

What a lot of you seem to want is a show that is basically a positive press release.

You want entertainment companies spend their money and time showing only positive aspects of Greek Life that are definied as philanthropy and well . . . philanthropy. And maybe some alcohol free activites.

You want the show to not air any interpersonal dynamics unless they are "positive" which basically would mean only showing the parts of meetings that are votes . . . because heaven forbid some of our debates made it to TV.

Plus we are basically social organizations with some bells and whistles that make us look good . . . but again most of you seem to want to hide that.

So just out of curiousity: how is what y'all are suggesting ethical or honest?

Won't you end up hiding a lot of our social activities and how they really are?

By hiding our social activities won't you be disproportionally emphasizing our philanthropies so that PNM's have a skewed idea of what we are about?

Just hoping some of y'all would take some time and help me figure this all out . . .



Quote:

Originally posted by UMgirl
The only channels who would probably do a REAL depiction of sorority and/or fraternity life is PBS or the History channel. And how many people between the ages of 16-25 really watch those channels?
My second votes for channels would be A&E, TLC and Lifetime. But Lifetime only if Linda Gray, Meredith Baxter or Judith Light could host it :p


AlphaXiAshley 07-30-2002 01:55 AM

i think u have it wrong...
 
at least when it comes to my sorority, and when i say that im not directly talking about my chapter, ive had the opertunity to meet and bond with my sisters from all over the country. and i dotn think it would be far fetched for me to say to us being in this sorority isnt just a "social thing" we made a promise for life, to better ourselves and our communities. I take great pride in the differance we make and the people we help. the bonds we create and the ways we learn from each other. A good percentage of the girls in my chapter dont go out at all, maybe only once or twice a semester.. if that... its really a SMALL portion of what we do and what we are about and the reason we are sisters instead of just people who "hang". i really wish that some station would have enough guts to show this side, i know how tempting it is to show the smaller more scandaous parts but i dont think its accurate at all... but i still think it would be cool to see the social parts.. we are in college after all.. i jsut get upset that 25 of 30 mins are focused on jsut that. i like to go out and party.. i in no way think this is wrong but my chapter and my school come way before clubbing and boytoys.
as far as this new show goes, i pity the gurls who do it... not because of the coverage, basically because they feel that they arent good enough how they are right now that they need these life makeovers just to pledge.. if you ask me thats asking for disastor. i think you could get a better life experiance by going through rush as you are and meeting the gurls finding out where you belong and allowing yourself to grow from there.
i dont know maybe im crazy.. maybe im the only one who thinks like this.. but i doubt it and im pretty confidant that my sisters would back me up...
Ashes
ps i think TLC or Lifetime would be great the always put out great touching stories, without needing scandal.

UMgirl 07-30-2002 02:13 AM

Never did I say that I wanted PBS or any of the other channels that I listed to do a thing on Greeks. Everyone has been coming down on MTV (maybe even myself, I can't remember) and what I was saying was, if you want a channel that might actually do something serious on Greeks, you're probably looking at those channels to do it. Channels inwhich no one watches. But don't look for MTV to be the one.
I dont think anyone is looking for MTV to hide anything that sorority members do. We know we Greek Life isnt peferect and has its issues, heck you check the Fraternal News and just about every story is bad or depressing. I think people are gtetting upset because its showing them partying and talking about their social lives probably a good 80% if not more of the time. I dont think anyone has a problem showing them doing this stuff, but speaking for myself and probably a lot of sorority women out there (anyone object if I am wrong) DID NOT do this things 80% of the time and that's what MTV is making it seem like is done. Ok they showed a sleepover, woohoo. Only after someone said they house (having the actual pledge house) sucks. The point I get from a lot of people's post seems to be, hey MTV if your going to show sorority life... show everything (philanthropy, mixers, bars and drinking, clubbing, bonding, sisterhood events, school etc.). MTV really isnt doing that. Its showing a one things a majority of the time and thats what people expected and why they are upset.
Like I said, I dont care if you show the "bad" stuff. It comes along with the territory. Juts make sure you show the good that comes with sorority life also with both being even. Speaking for myself, but this show depicts maybe about half of sorority life, if that.

Like I said my opinion.

LeslieAGD 07-30-2002 06:25 AM

I would like to see Dateline, or another news oriented program, do a positive special about Greek life. Can you imagine Oprah doing a show about Greeks?

GtownGirl98 07-30-2002 09:05 AM

True Life
 
Here is an idea... MTV does really good documentaries on the show "TRUE LIFE" and I think that they keep it true to life. So MTV why don't you make this up to us with a TRUE LIFE I'm a Sorority Girl and give NPC the final say about it's airing. You can still have the drama of it all because there is drama in Sorority life but you can also have all the good stuff that Greeks do, all the fun stuff (like Soror/frat community service and mixers). MTV gets their ratings, NPC gets the final say, and we get the true story.:eek:

AOX81 07-30-2002 09:56 AM

Re: Re-invent yourself?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by texas*princess
No one should have to "reinvent" themselves to pledge a sorority. They should accept a person for who they are... at least my sorority does.
EXACTLY!!!

NatalieCD 07-30-2002 12:58 PM

Somebody mentioned before about MTV is marketing their research to a younger audience. So obviously they are just doing it for money. They don't care how they show greek life. They just want to show you one aspect of how greek life can be at one chapter in California. It's all about the money people, they don't care how they portray us.

Greek life is a secretive side to college and they want to show the world how it's done. I can honestly say that the show "Sorority Life" is NOTHING I went through. But, some sororities, went through with that. Maybe not as much, on the drinking side, but philanthropy, socially, and mentally they did.

Basically MTV just wants to show their viewers that greek life isn't all that it's made up to be. If I saw a girl at rush and she asked if my sorority was just like that on tv, I would just laugh. It's a joke to me, and it's all for money.

Way to go MTV, you've outdone yourself this time!

dzrose93 07-30-2002 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
I was hoping some of y'all could help me figure out some things . . .

Especially given that many of you seem to believe the show is a "train Wreck", completely inaccurate, and want a show from PBS or some such to cover it.

ITs funny, I thought Sorority life is pretty real . . . And certainly some of the sorority girls that have posted have found it to be fairly accurate.

What a lot of you seem to want is a show that is basically a positive press release.

You want entertainment companies spend their money and time showing only positive aspects of Greek Life that are definied as philanthropy and well . . . philanthropy. And maybe some alcohol free activites.

You want the show to not air any interpersonal dynamics unless they are "positive" which basically would mean only showing the parts of meetings that are votes . . . because heaven forbid some of our debates made it to TV.

Plus we are basically social organizations with some bells and whistles that make us look good . . . but again most of you seem to want to hide that.

So just out of curiousity: how is what y'all are suggesting ethical or honest?

Won't you end up hiding a lot of our social activities and how they really are?

By hiding our social activities won't you be disproportionally emphasizing our philanthropies so that PNM's have a skewed idea of what we are about?

Just hoping some of y'all would take some time and help me figure this all out . . .

James (a.k.a. "Devil's Advocate"),

I know that I'm pointing out the obvious here, but... you're not in a sorority. You've never lived in a sorority house. You've never attended a formal sorority meeting. Therefore, you really don't have any way of knowing if Sorority Life is "pretty real" or not. Seeing sorority women out on a daily basis, attending some socials with them, and/or hearing about some of the things that they do really doesn't give someone enough knowledge to discern whether or not the "Sorority Life" show is depicting sororities in a fair manner.

Secondly, I think that you're twisting people's words when you say that sorority women on GC are asking for "a show that is basically a positive press release." I personally don't think that anyone here is asking the media to do a show with an all-positive Greek slant. What they're asking is that the media include positive aspects of sorority life instead of showing 10 minutes of stupid drama interrupted by 20 minutes of equally stupid commercials on a weekly basis. I really don't think that their request is too much to ask, nor is it a difficult one to understand.

I would be absolutely elated to find someone in the media who was actually interested in doing a non-biased portrayal of Greek life! :) You'd probably have to pick me up off the floor if I heard news of something like that! And, as long as our philanthropic endeavors, sisterhood activities and emphasis on academics were given equal air time, then I would have no problem showing a squabble or two between sisters who are roommates, or a heated debate about a sorority-related issue.

Arguments do happen on occasion between sisters, MTV at least got that part right -- however, they aren't the ONLY things that happen, which is what MTV is leading viewers to believe. So far, MTV has shown very little footage of actual sorority-related events over the past several weeks. Most of the time, the show spotlights ridiculous people behaving in an immature manner. Sure, they occasionally cut to a discussion about a sorority-sponsored activity, but it lasts for about 2.2 seconds and then the cameras cut back to the latest Jordan/Candace drama. That simply ISN'T "real" life in a sorority, and, in a nutshell, that's the problem we have with the show.

NatalieCD 07-30-2002 01:47 PM

ya know what I did notice a lot about MTV when they do these "Real World/Road Rules/True Life/Sorority Life" shows is that they tend to cut A LOT out. They only want to show the interesting things that happen, and if a guy is watching two girls in a sorority going at it - they are going to enjoy it.

I was watching the "Reunion of Real World Chicago" and I believe it was Cara who said "If I was having as much sex as they showed it I would be a much happier person." I know this has no relevence to what we are talking about, but ina way it does. They showed Cara on TV having a lot of sex, because they knew their audience would enjoy seeing that. The same goes to say with the two girls on Sororoity Life.

They aren't goint to show the boring side to a sorority when they can show the drinking and fighting.


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